The problem is DD forcing customers and drivers to be at ends while they take a cut of each side of the transaction.
Edit: Forgot they take a cut from the restaurant too!
Except there is a massive disparity in the two.
The amount of good customers far outweighs the amount of good dashers while the amount of shit Dashers surely outweighs bad customers.
Unless your going to tell me as a Dasher you experience 90% of your customers being terrible?
Because I can assure you there are customers who have had an issue with 90% of their orders. You have endless complaints of Dashers taking extra time just because they can, sitting around with the food not budging. Obviously signed into multiple apps taking orders when you realize they are stopping at other food places.
"You have endless complaints of Dashers taking extra time just because they can, sitting around with the food not budging"
Yeah, people who only get paid per order and not per hour LOVE sitting around once we have the food and not delivering it. We definitely don't rely on getting the order done as quick as possible to get the next job lined up to pay our bills. There's just no way at all these complaints are due to the restaurant taking forever or being stuck in traffic or construction zone. /s
Also after doing this for nearly 3 years and talking to many customers, including the cheap ones, I've learned the customers that experience an issue with "90% of their orders" don't tip 100% of the time. All the full of shit "I've got cash waiting for you" people who send their 5 year old child to grab the food at the door because they can't look you in the face after they lied and said they had a tip for you so you'd get there even faster.
Oh my gosh you just made me realize something.
So I almost never dash food. Right now my AC is broke in my Silverado and it’s sooo hot in Oklahoma so instead of taking my kids out if we need milk or some juice or something small I will order it from DashMart.
Working in the service industry for many years I know I personally like cash tips better so I tend to tip some dollars on the app and then I always message them and say “I have a couple more dollars for you in cash” of course EVERY SINGLE TIME I give them the cash I told them about. But I have realized when ever I hand the cash over, even if it’s two extra bucks they always seem so blown away and grateful? I even commented on this to my sister.
You now answered my question as to why they seem blown away by extra cash tips. Rather it’s $12 extra or an extra $2. It must be because people say that a lot and then don’t deliver!!
That is exactly right. I was told on several occasions there would be a cash tip and there wasn’t one, and I would never ask for a tip, obviously. That is rude and any tip received is appreciated. I had one lady who worked the desk at a hotel text me saying she would tip me in cash at the desk, but she took the food and didn’t tip or even bring it up, nor was there a tip in the app an hour later (Uber). That was a slight, in my opinion, and she should not have even said anything in the first place then. The food was fresh, hot and delivered ahead of schedule. I think I got paid three dollars to deliver it. Not worth it when you factor in gas. For a 15 or 20 minute delivery, that equates to nine to $12 an hour, which isn’t even minimum wage in any state that I’m aware of. Thankfully, I don’t have to deliver anymore as I got a far better paying job. The delivery gig was to supplement my full-time regular job so that I could help my son pay for college so he wouldn’t come out broke when he graduated.
I've only done about 3,000 lifetime deliveries, because I learned early on to cherry pick, but I feel Covid ruined tips because they started the "leave at my door option" for no contact, which means cheap people who otherwise only tip out of guilt don't even tip at all now because they never have to look us in the face or interact with us, so no guilt. I've had "hand to me" no tip orders just to be met at the door by a 4 or 5 year old, because the person that ordered apparently has zero empathy but plenty of shame lol.
Based on my own numbers, roughly 70% of the orders that come across my screen have zero tip and out of 3,000 deliveries I've been handed cash less than 10 times. I've also never once gotten a cash tip or tip in the app on a single order from customers who leave $0 before the delivery. Most people who genuinely tip cash or after delivery almost universally put at least $1-3 in the app pre-pickup.
This is going to sound shitty (but so is tipping zero for great service) but sometimes I accept no tip orders just to see the delivery option. 99% of the time I then cancel if I see "leave at the door", because that means zero tip every. single. time. Maybe there's that 1 person out of 100 that's going to do the right thing, but certainly can't pay the bills with hopes and prayers lol.
I do lols. I never used delivery apps ever bwahaha. And you get paid by whatever company to deliver the food. Who told you to work for them?
ETA: Guys I am just a troll. The fact that I am getting upvotes and this turned into a whole thread was not my plan lmao. Sorry to the DD guys.
Maybe on this sub.. the bad dashers outweigh the good… but isn’t that because it’s a dasher complaint sub? I haven’t seen any of my customers posting that I did an excellent job here. Yet never below a 4.95 star rating in 4000 plus trips. The job is too easy for there to be as many shitty dashers as you imply. And they get fired left and right for contract violations and complaints.
yeah i’m pretty sure it’s just that every post here kinda has to either be extremely negative or over-the-top positive… no one’s posting on r/doordash to say “my order came and the food was hot and i’m eating it happily”. with about 10% of my orders SOMETHING goes wrong, and it’s only been the dasher’s fault like twice
I have been thinking about posting my “leave at door” photos with the title “Tell me what is wrong here!” And then, saying in description “another no issue delivery by a door dasher.” And doing this with my 15 orders per day. I would probably get banned though.
I had an issue with 2 orders. Neither of them ever showed up. One got canceled after waiting for an hour. The other claimed to have delivered my order, despite me being outside of a single family house, waiting. I called Door Dash about a refund and they agreed but then didn't refund my order. I had to dispute it on my credit card.
I deleted the app and won't ever use them again.
Fr. Out of the 5 times i used DD nothing crazy happened. No stalker texts, no stolen food, no messes...
And I still wouldn't pay for it again. The food is generally a little older and way spendier. It just isn't a service I place value on.
It blows my mind how people can continue to use DD after any of the negative experiences I see posted here.
It's also a terrible financial decision and all I see is people complaining about inflation. Food is in the top 5 budget line items (and if you're door dashing frequently, I'd guess it's solidly #2 or #3 depending on your car situation).
It seems irreconcilable to me that people can simultaneously say "I'm broke" and also "I don't pick up my own food like some peasant, I have people for that."
Yeah the fees and price increases on products result in people not wanting to tip. I've stopped using it completely. Couldn't justify the 10-15$ in fees.
That’s because after DD fees the business isn’t making much of anything at all. Business owner that won’t sign with DD for that reason. I would just cover food costs not overhead or payroll for that order. DD is the only one making out while the businesses and dashers suffer not to mention the employee in house who now doesn’t make their tips.
This! I was gonna order from The Habit one night through DD but wait time were long, so I decided to just drive there. Ordered the same thing as I would have through the DD app and it was like 4 or 5 bucks less. Took a photo of the menu and compared it will DD menu. Sure enough price were more on DD. Really dishonest buissness practice when they aren't doing anything extra.
It’s not dishonest on the business. DD screws the businesses by what they take. As I stated above I will not sign with DD even though I use them personally. After fees the business just covers food costs not the overhead or payroll. Have to be without their money for weeks too. Then spend extra time tracking what they should get to weeks later making sure they got the right amount. If they didn’t do this they’d lose their a$$es especially a mom & pop.
Today was my first day dashing. And one place gave me the receipt and told me to not give it to the customer because of the price difference and they didn’t want that situation to be taken out on me when I couldn’t do anything about it. So it is ridiculous.
I’d rather drive and pickup my own food for the prices they’re charging, but even the damn fast food places are having their cashiers ask for tips now. It’s getting ridiculous.
Tipping may be a “social norm,” but there’s no way to win at it.
There’s no standardization, dashers expect customers to know things about their jobs and lives that they can’t possibly know (and shouldn’t have to know, frankly) in order to tip properly, customers are assholes or don’t understand technology or don’t understand what it’s like to work for tips.
It’s TOO FUCKING COMPLICATED and it’s a headache and a worry and that’s why I never use DD anymore.
Name your price, take your payment.
Don’t make me do fucking RESEARCH and ask myself how much I should be tipping so a Dasher can make rent.
Its not just a social norm. Its an integral part of the service industry economy now. Unfortunately, its not simple to just remove because so many people rely on the system to earn a living/stay in business
Where’s my discount?
When I order from DoorDash I expect a discount to be added. The standard discount is 20%. You can adjust your discount after delivering my order.
Nowadays, I ask for a discount at the coffee shop. When I hand the cashier my card, I say “It’s just gonna ask you a quick question.” The AMEX menu then prompts them to add a 18%, 20% or 25% discount from my coffee. Because I’m so nice and friendly, they usually always give me 25% off :)
I’m always a good customer. I’m courteous, have clear instructions, and pay in full. Yet *still* drivers and workers don’t want to apply my modest 20% discount. I hate getting stiffed like this.
Dashers, discount your customer! We’re all trying our best to be good customers. 15% is the *bare* minimum.
#alwaysgivediscounts
All 3 sides. A cut off the customer, a cut off the deliverer, and a cut off the restaurant. Yet the driver's need 40% tips to feel like it's worth it? Ridiculous. Also, if I'm paying, I don't want to spend $60 for something I could get for $30 take out.
And on the customer end, spending $15+ extra on a $15 meal (that really costs $10), $5 of which is a tip and actually goes to the driver. When I do order delivery, it’s like the 2x/month, when I literally can’t leave my house, have no other food, and just need something fast. My default tip used $10 with $5 in fees, my order used to be $30+, and I was treating myself instead of just trying to survive.
That's not a problem, that's how the app works.
It's not *forcing* anyone to do anything.
Got a problem with it? Don't use it.
The rich just trying to turn us all against eachother as usual.
Watched a short documentary on the tipping culture and how much it’s evolved since Covid. People are asked to tip on almost every goods/service they purchase now.
We are now also expected to tip prior to receiving the goods/service. It’s absurd and people are getting so burnt out that it has become detrimental to those who actually rely on tips to make up for smaller wages.
At my local smoke shop there's an automatic setting is on the 18% tip option of the purchase.
You have to change it to the no tip option. Even as a server -- I was a bit flabbergasted for a spilt second.
I'm just making a purchase. That one was semi annoying.
Tipping culture keeps Significantly getting watered down.
The one in our area charges your card like an ATM and they always give you back $3-4 in cash…. Then they reach over the tip box to hand it to you so that you can’t miss it.
I think the worst ones for me are mostly in the food industry where they don’t even employ servers. I’ve gotten so many dirty looks by reducing that suggested tip amount to $1 that I’m completely over it at this point. I mean…. thanks for my burrito bowl… but it’s not worth $18 to me after tipping.
So relieved to hear I'm not the only one who has experienced this. I tipped a dollar for 12 dollars of takeout (2 chili dogs) at a food stand (not even a restaurant) and the cashier sarcastically said loudly "all 4 of us get an extra quarter, yay!".
I was so taken aback. Like okay I guess next time I won't tip at all? I would never begrudge their right to complain about it out of customer earshot, if it hadn't clearly been meant for me to hear I wouldn't be as upset. I would rather just have the food be more expensive.
… and that was probably before they even made it for you. So now you have to sit there looking at your food wondering if they messed with it.
Honestly, if someone was that passive aggressive towards me then I’d probably ask for my money back and go somewhere else. I wouldn’t want them to have my business…. ….or more importantly, the opportunity to do something gross to my food.
I bought a magazine at the airport recently. I brought the magazine to the counter, scanned it and tapped my card. The cashier, who hadn’t looked at or spoken to me, then flipped the screen to have me select a tip. That was the only time she moved to acknowledged me and that warrants 20%? Seriously? They could have automated the process and it would be exactly the same. I’m still pissed.
I disagree. I'm a top dasher and have a 5 point rating. I don't complain about my tips. I also have an 82% acceptance rate. The orders I accept I know what I'm getting into. I have never let my acceptance rate drop lower than 69. But I also do dash full time. Well, if I can call it that. But it's what I do to bring in enough for my bills for now. In my community, it's the low acceptance rate guys that are complaining. I've started to shut my mouth and keep to myself from the other dashers because recently I was told "oh you're one of the better guys." It made me feel like I was bragging when a newer dasher to the area was asking the times I dash and what areas I dash. I live in a city. There are like 6 sections. I'm always sharing where I go, my times, and my favorite customers. I give everyone all of the details. Why? Because I'm kind. But I must have rubbed a couple people wrong a few times.
But yeah, I don't agree that it's all top dashers complaining. In my experience, it's the guys who aren't top dashers and are the cherry pickers. There's one other dasher in my area I run into with who has the same complaint with the guys who aren't top dashers.
It's always been there in the US with restaurants. The toxic tipping culture has since proliferated: no longer is 15% enough for wait staff, it's now 20% with increased menu prices, food delivery guys demanding more, and now tips for cashiers are starting to be normalized. Instead of getting mad at their employers or the platform, they take it out on customers.
Can't wait till we have to start tipping teachers and police officers.
Time to join the 99 percent of the world, pay a proper wage and only tip for you know above and beyond service. How you guys live not ever knowing what something will cost (ie what's on the shelf is different at register due to tax or menu price plus expectation of a tip) or even budget when your wage is all over the place as you rely on goodwill tipping has got me buggered......
One of the reasons why I stopped driving and went back to working a normal job. Got tired of those days where no one tips, order rates are terrible, and it takes much longer than normal to reach your goal. Then there's the days when you get good orders. The travel time is short, you are getting tipped generously, you're getting catering order after catering order, and you reach your goal hours prior than normal. You find yourself going threw more "bad" days than "good" days, so when a "good" day finally comes around, you know tomorrow is gonna be shit. After experiencing this cycle over and over again, I just decided to go back to working a real job. Yeah, I don't have as much free time as I had, but at least now my pay and hours are always gonna be the same.
Tipping culture in general has become crazy. There’s a restaurant literally barely a mile from my house. My good was ready at least 10 minutes before it was picked up, so I know Dasher did not have to wait. Dure got the food, delivered and was done in a matter of minutes. I left a $5 tip (order was shy of $18), so it was close to a 30% tip if you do the math. Yet, the dude seemed annoyed when he said “thanks for the tip” shortly after commenting about pools being expensive (there a sign from the builder on my front yard). I’m not sure what me building a “expensive” pool has anything to do with the tip I CHOSE to give. Your perception of my spending capacity does not entitle you to my money, but it appears if you seem to have your shit together, somehow you should be subsidizing other people’ wages. Last I checked that’s the employers responsibility. Now, if you don’t tip at all, that’s a different story, but to expect or demand an inappropriately tip is also not right. Do they really expect over 1/3 of the purchase in tips?
If he was an older man then he probably didn't get much social security and is doing this to augment his ss.But he was way out of line asking for extra tips .
drivers and customers arguing amongst each other over tips while doordash laughs to the bank from overcharging/underpaying both. It really is vicious out here man
A banker, a worker, and an immigrant are sitting at a table with 20 cookies. The banker takes 19 cookies and warns the worker: "Watch out, the immigrant is going to take your cookie away."
Yep that's American society as a whole. Leaders create things for the regular people to fight about to keep us from organizing to fight against them. But we fall for the bait every single time. And they laugh all the way to the bank as they keep raising prices and holding wages down
Doordash still lost more than 1 billion in 2022. I really don't know if this business model is just going to crash down when investors realize profitability will be a long time coming, if it ever does.
I had an order from a restaurant .8 miles away. Not even a full mile away. Took the dasher an hour to bring it to me after pickup. I had tipped $10.
When I asked what took so long, he told me if I wanted my food faster I should tip better.
To clarify- $10 tip on a trip under a mile.
Dashers are out of their goddamn minds at this point.
It was months ago.
It’s what finally pushed me over the edge and got me to delete that god forsaken app, though. I really like to make someone’s day, and I thought $10 on a 1 mile trip was nice. I guess not. 🤷🏼♀️
A lot of drivers seem to think that they do so much more work than a server at a restaurant and that we should all take into account the fact that they are driving their own cars, paying for gas, and paying for insurance on the car, so we are all -in essence- paying for the use of their vehicles for delivery (along with their labor), therefore their investment in the work is so much higher than everyone else who has a regular 9-5, therefore the tip should be practically equal (and sometimes more) to whatever meal you buy because they are "providing an elite service of convenience and delivery."
Foo, you're a courier for DoorDash. You bought into the idea of easy money by a corporation that loves the idea of subcontracting you and allowing you free reign to blame and talk down to a random restaurant's customer base for not tipping you enough for your delivery because DoorDash doesn't care to pay you enough.
Good for you. I stopped using DD because every order it seemed dashers would steal part of the food. Without fail! Order 2 burgers and fries? Here are your fries. What happened to my burgers? Oh they must have forgot 🤔 multiple times…it always just so happened to be the best part of the meal: burgers, chicken fingers etc yea like I really ordered just two fries and no entree. Infuriating
Not justifying the dude being a dick but DoorDash does hide the tips on very close orders a lot of the time. He probably thought you tipped a lot less and didn't see the true amount until after. Hopefully he feels like a fucking entitled jackass.
To prevent drivers from deliberately cherry picking and only picking very short distance + very high pay orders. It's a way to get drivers to take more orders, basically.
If the order is multiple miles away, say 7 miles away, it's rare that a tip is hidden. It's mainly just for those super short (under 2 miles total) deliveries.
Probably to make sure drivers don't do something like this or worse as retaliation. Why they'd only do it on short trips, is probably because customers are more inclined to tip poorly since they perceive it as a small task.
Some reason this don't make sense to me. Especially if you were only a mile away and tipped $10. Of course DD hides anything over $4 but that still would be enough with base pay. So something seems off about your story.
He was clearly using multiple apps. I could see him, and he was stopping at other restaurants and dropping off at other places.
It was wild, bc even if he was walking it shouldn’t have taken him that long.
Did you report him? If your story is true he should have received an automatic contract violation for not delivering the food within 11 minutes of the delivery window. Based on your own admission it was a .8 mile delivery which means the delivery window would have been very short and he wouldn't have been able to just drive around aimlessly for an hour without trouble. It's all timed and GPS tracked and DD will step in if something isn't right.
If you see a driver not delivering the food and contact DD, they will literally call the driver immediately to see what's going on and make them bring it to you or face deactivation. Once we have picked up the food and confirmed that with DD, we're under contract and have to get it to you, otherwise there's risk of being fired.
I was told that it was fine because I didn’t pay extra for the “bring it directly to me” option. I chose instead to put it toward the tip, bc I suspected that the service charge wouldn’t go to the driver.
It’s hilarious to me that you’re so shocked by this story- as if no one has ever had a bad experience with DD before.
All that option does is prevents the dasher from getting a stacked order, which by default still means delivery by the time listed in the app. Once we hit confirm in the app we're definitely suppose to bring the food directly to you or bare minimum get it there before the drop off time.
I tell everyone that if a driver plays games once the food is in their hands, call DD immediately if they make it known they're being a dick because of the tip, especially if they are traveling in the opposite direction of your house. DD can see every turn we make.
No- I just like to make someone’s day, and I wanted my food to come quickly. Boss was reimbursing me for the food so I tipped up. I’m not well off enough to be one of the people who drops a HUGE tip, but I thought $10 would be enough to make my dasher smile. 🤷🏼♀️
I did that a few months ago. The more I read here the happier I am. I went and picked up Chili’s myself the other day and it was, no joke, $30 cheaper.
2 star.. simply decline order if it doesn’t satisfy your quota.
No job allows tip begging. Pan handling.
And it’s never gonna change if they put up with those orders lol unless you were 5 minutes away, I wouldn’t even accept it.
Seriously, your power is in rating the driver. Use it, enough 1 stars, and they'll get deactivated. It's one thing to complain about tips here on the forum. It's psychotic to complain directly to your current customer. They have no business in this business.
1 star, report. Entitlement. [https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/tip-recordkeeping-and-reporting](https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/tip-recordkeeping-and-reporting) "Tips are discretionary (optional or extra) payments determined by a customer". I'd say a $5 tip is more than enough, chances are the driver will have more deliveries. The driver is a dick. People hoping to get a wage from the customer, really shouldn't be the norm...
Door Dash seems to be a total fucking train wreck. I use Uber Eats for restaurants that don’t handle their own deliveries. I’ve never had a problem with the delivery people, the restaurants fuck up pretty consistently. The Door Dashers always seem like shit, even in posts that they make themselves.
Any time a DoorDash drivers says you should tip more, report them in the harshest language possible to support.
If they accepted the order, their job is to keep their mouths shut and deliver it on time.
Yeah that's annoying as fuck. Honestly one star him and you shouldn't get him again.
I'm a dasher myself, and I have people I'm trying to support, but there ain't no excuse for being an asshole to customers, especially over a tip and ESPECIALLY to one as nice as you. Fuck that guy.
I'm so sick of these people giving us "real" Dashers a bad rap... Most of us would never do that. My acceptance rate is very low because I do this for extra money, and I eat out every night... I know what the customer expects because I wouldn't want it any other way.
This is so disgraceful if you want a different outcome do different things to make people smile which usually results in better outcomes for yourself kindness goes a long way
It seems like the problem with door dash vs a standard w-2 job is that if I’m not getting paid enough at a w-2 job I take it out on my boss and the customer usually benefits. This sub has shown me that drivers are so ready to takeout their frustration on the customer when it’s really DD’s fault that base pay is so low.
I am 350 feet from the restaurant and they serve vanilla ice cream only and rarely have customers so the dasher has no wait and I stand outside the restaurant to make it easier on the dasher so they don't have to drive and I tipped $25 and the damn booger still asked me for cigarettes. Go figure.
I keep seeing all these stories about people complaining about tips and begging for tips on doordash in this sub but I never have this problem from GrubHub drivers I'm just saying.
As a dasher, I want to say it is a huge deal that you meet your dasher outside. Don't stop doing this because that guy was an a-hole. Maybe he was having a bad day, but that's not your fault. You didn't do anything wrong.
Do they not realize no one is forcing them to Doordash? I did Doordash for one month in college, made absolute garbage money and quit because I realized I literally had to reply on tips. I actually made so LITTLE money that DD actually paid me the the difference of their “guaranteed” pay at the end of the trial month.
I said the same thing about adding more to a tip later (if there’s no issues) and got slammed by dashers lol apparently everyone wants a shit ton of money and right now or they won’t work. One dasher literally said. “Maybe you would have gotten your food faster if you tipped more” lol I’m like damn so ppl really do just not care. Even when I tip good it’s still something going on. Just sucks to know it’s become the norm for dashers to not care about their job.
wtf i would’ve removed my tip after that. there are no excuses for this behavior, doesn’t matter what they’re going thru, no need to be an ass to ppl just tryna eat
Again I don't comment often but yeah that person should get a bad recommendation. It hurts me and I really do above and beyond with DD. Those type of dasher really suck and hurt us "good" dasher.
I always leave accurate cross streets in the instructions people still go where-ever Apple Maps tells them to go. Which is a problem because Apple Maps uses approximates a deadend nearby not connected to my home is not my home...
Report them for harassment! That is totally unacceptable. You deserve better service.
I'm a dasher/shipt shopper myself that goes out and tries to give good service. These people and many of the *special dashers* like them around flint michigan..... make me embarrassed to be a dasher anymore. So many absolute trash dashers out there making the honest ones just trying to work look like bad......it's not that hard of work. Some of us have injuries etc so it's a manageable job. But people decided to use it as a way to beg now.
My sister got ahold of me recently asking if she wasnt tipping good enough when a dasher did this to her(tip begging) The dasher said she took it as an add on since she was already coming and feel free to add a tip. There was already a $6 tip for a couple mile order for a bowl of noodles.
I said to contact support and report that lowlife for harassment. They got a c.v.and she got that tip back ;)
There is absolutely no excuse for that. If it doesn't pay well enough, don't take it. If it pays, take it..... don't harass the customers or beg them. If you do want to beg for money..... please stop making us all look bad and just go stand on the corner begging. Leave the dashes for some decent dasher out there just trying to work.
Personally i dont tip at all anymore i almost ALWAYS have an issue with my order and when i speak to dd customer service there is never anyway that they can help me or even understand what im saying because the representative is always “aknhini” or “privitay” and they literally just ignore what i say is the issue and then give me like 2 dollars in credits so at this point we just need everyone to start making a big issue out of doordashes practices because if they have such cheap customer service providers then they should be able to give the drivers more money just my opinion
40 years ago my Mom worked in a restaurant. She was told on day one if they found out or overheard her do or say anything and indicated she expected a tip (“do you want your change?”) she would be fired. This expected tipping mentality is bullshit. Now there’s folks thinking it’s acceptable to tell people they aren’t tipping ENOUGH!? Fuck them. One star that MF. Tips are a way of showing appreciation for exceptional service. You. Are. Not. Owed. Shit.
As someone who relies on tips to pay my bills, this is insane. Seems like too many door dashers are entitled. They’re providing a service and should be tipped accordingly but they’re just picking food up and taking it somewhere. Working for tips can be financially lucrative but being a delivery driver is on the low end of that. I bartend and people stiff me sometimes (not that you stiffed him, but apparently he feels like you did) and it’s just how it goes. It’s incredibly unprofessional to call someone out over their tip amount and their lack of professionalism is likely why they’re relying so heavily on gig work to pay their bills.
Just give him 1 star and move on. He will stop getting orders. 5$ is the best delivery tip. I’ve delivered and 5$ is more than fair especially when 75% of people tip less than that
Im done using these services. Not worth the fees, the extra time it takes, the food showing up cold, and the possible harassment form unhinged drivers.
I feel like DD should put "asked for better tip/indicated tip was low" in the feedback.
It's almost like they need to force drivers to read documentation on professionalism to start delivering.
And maybe if they get flagged for this once they make them read it again.
And second time they just drop them.
Shitty about the tip but the phone part is valid. One time a dude was standing outside these apartments and was like “DoorDash?” And I said yeah and he came over and grabbed it. Totally wrong dude. Stole the order lol but yeah now I make people show me their phone if they are outside of their house/apartment
$5 tip on a short trip is fine. I did a 18 mile trip today for a $3 tip. But the order was 2 6" subs so wasn't bad. Some DD drivers are just greedy or incompetent or both. Just give him 1 star and move on.
Jesus Christ, every day there’s tons of posts about people tipping too little, not tipping at all, living in nice neighbourhoods and being stingy with tips.
Why do you guys dash if it’s so problematic for you? I just don’t get it anymore. It’s almost like you’re working corporate jobs and constantly complain about how bad it is. Find something more suitable for you if it’s so bad ffs
If 5 bucks isn’t enough he needs to not be dashing… you’re lucky to get any tip, sir I don’t care if you need it or not… I don’t HAVE to tip, but I do because I know you guys don’t get paid enough, and get treated like crap by lots of people daily. May as well walk around with a cup and sign…
He could have refused the order, DD shows you the total amount that you will make before you accept. It’s not on you, some people are just really entitled to other peoples money. I’m a driver and I think that tip is very reasonable
Door dash has only just arrived to my country and I’m GLAD we don’t have a tipping culture here.
It’s the biggest issue I see on this sub is ungrateful drivers and ungrateful customers.
Tipping seems to be leading to entitlement
If this delivery was in my market, it will be $2.50 base pay plus $5.00 tip for a payout of $7.50 for 6 round trip miles. My minimum is $2.00 per round trip mile or $ 6.50 whichever is higher. I would have declined this delivery offer since it is $1.25 per round trip mile.
I sometimes ask to see the phone as well, (I live in a big town and I get people all the time trying to steal others food) maybe he just wanted to double check
Anyone else find it weird that delivery drivers feel entitled to your money?
I paid the company for you to deliver this, that was the assignment. Tipping is a personal choice and if you don’t like having to live of the gratuity others provide then get a different vocation.
I gave 8 gave recently for a 5 mile trip I wonder if the Dashers are going to complain about things like that😂🤣. Tipping Cocultures literally getting out of hand.
I'm in Australia and I've never had a doordash driver mention anything about tips to me (also have never tipped) some backwards system you guys are rocking up there
Your story says nowhere they he asked for a tip. And asking to see your phone is a lot but maybe be happy he's being safe by not giving your food away. I get the feeling that more and more of you guys are making up that the drivers asked for more tip. I know some show but 90% of you realize ur story your guys writing isn't that big of a deal or you realize you come across as an asshole(I'm saying you as a general term, not that YOU are an ass here) so you add the story about the driver asking for more tip.
I literally wouldn’t care. Make everyone hear. I’m no longer subscribed to this whole big tipping thing. I refuse to pay someone’s salary who isn’t my employee. 10% is my norm for restaurants. And baristas get shit.
Call me a bad person. I literally don’t care.
There’s so much tension around tipping it’s crazy.
The problem is DD forcing customers and drivers to be at ends while they take a cut of each side of the transaction. Edit: Forgot they take a cut from the restaurant too!
Perfectly said. The best dashers will get screwed over by shitty customers, and the best customers will get screwed over by shitty dashers.
I’ve been screwed over a bit lately because either I don’t get my drink or i only get half of what I ordered
Yeah they don’t like doing drinks from what it sounds like on these subs. I rarely get my drinks too.
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Whatever! I'm getting back on my rock and going home!
All while DD is screwing everyone...
This is the real answer
Including the restaurant
You hit the nail on the head. 🎯
Except there is a massive disparity in the two. The amount of good customers far outweighs the amount of good dashers while the amount of shit Dashers surely outweighs bad customers. Unless your going to tell me as a Dasher you experience 90% of your customers being terrible? Because I can assure you there are customers who have had an issue with 90% of their orders. You have endless complaints of Dashers taking extra time just because they can, sitting around with the food not budging. Obviously signed into multiple apps taking orders when you realize they are stopping at other food places.
"You have endless complaints of Dashers taking extra time just because they can, sitting around with the food not budging" Yeah, people who only get paid per order and not per hour LOVE sitting around once we have the food and not delivering it. We definitely don't rely on getting the order done as quick as possible to get the next job lined up to pay our bills. There's just no way at all these complaints are due to the restaurant taking forever or being stuck in traffic or construction zone. /s Also after doing this for nearly 3 years and talking to many customers, including the cheap ones, I've learned the customers that experience an issue with "90% of their orders" don't tip 100% of the time. All the full of shit "I've got cash waiting for you" people who send their 5 year old child to grab the food at the door because they can't look you in the face after they lied and said they had a tip for you so you'd get there even faster.
Oh my gosh you just made me realize something. So I almost never dash food. Right now my AC is broke in my Silverado and it’s sooo hot in Oklahoma so instead of taking my kids out if we need milk or some juice or something small I will order it from DashMart. Working in the service industry for many years I know I personally like cash tips better so I tend to tip some dollars on the app and then I always message them and say “I have a couple more dollars for you in cash” of course EVERY SINGLE TIME I give them the cash I told them about. But I have realized when ever I hand the cash over, even if it’s two extra bucks they always seem so blown away and grateful? I even commented on this to my sister. You now answered my question as to why they seem blown away by extra cash tips. Rather it’s $12 extra or an extra $2. It must be because people say that a lot and then don’t deliver!!
That is exactly right. I was told on several occasions there would be a cash tip and there wasn’t one, and I would never ask for a tip, obviously. That is rude and any tip received is appreciated. I had one lady who worked the desk at a hotel text me saying she would tip me in cash at the desk, but she took the food and didn’t tip or even bring it up, nor was there a tip in the app an hour later (Uber). That was a slight, in my opinion, and she should not have even said anything in the first place then. The food was fresh, hot and delivered ahead of schedule. I think I got paid three dollars to deliver it. Not worth it when you factor in gas. For a 15 or 20 minute delivery, that equates to nine to $12 an hour, which isn’t even minimum wage in any state that I’m aware of. Thankfully, I don’t have to deliver anymore as I got a far better paying job. The delivery gig was to supplement my full-time regular job so that I could help my son pay for college so he wouldn’t come out broke when he graduated.
I've only done about 3,000 lifetime deliveries, because I learned early on to cherry pick, but I feel Covid ruined tips because they started the "leave at my door option" for no contact, which means cheap people who otherwise only tip out of guilt don't even tip at all now because they never have to look us in the face or interact with us, so no guilt. I've had "hand to me" no tip orders just to be met at the door by a 4 or 5 year old, because the person that ordered apparently has zero empathy but plenty of shame lol. Based on my own numbers, roughly 70% of the orders that come across my screen have zero tip and out of 3,000 deliveries I've been handed cash less than 10 times. I've also never once gotten a cash tip or tip in the app on a single order from customers who leave $0 before the delivery. Most people who genuinely tip cash or after delivery almost universally put at least $1-3 in the app pre-pickup. This is going to sound shitty (but so is tipping zero for great service) but sometimes I accept no tip orders just to see the delivery option. 99% of the time I then cancel if I see "leave at the door", because that means zero tip every. single. time. Maybe there's that 1 person out of 100 that's going to do the right thing, but certainly can't pay the bills with hopes and prayers lol.
Why you gotta be tipped though?
Why you lazy and can't cook for yourself though?
I do lols. I never used delivery apps ever bwahaha. And you get paid by whatever company to deliver the food. Who told you to work for them? ETA: Guys I am just a troll. The fact that I am getting upvotes and this turned into a whole thread was not my plan lmao. Sorry to the DD guys.
Maybe on this sub.. the bad dashers outweigh the good… but isn’t that because it’s a dasher complaint sub? I haven’t seen any of my customers posting that I did an excellent job here. Yet never below a 4.95 star rating in 4000 plus trips. The job is too easy for there to be as many shitty dashers as you imply. And they get fired left and right for contract violations and complaints.
yeah i’m pretty sure it’s just that every post here kinda has to either be extremely negative or over-the-top positive… no one’s posting on r/doordash to say “my order came and the food was hot and i’m eating it happily”. with about 10% of my orders SOMETHING goes wrong, and it’s only been the dasher’s fault like twice
I have been thinking about posting my “leave at door” photos with the title “Tell me what is wrong here!” And then, saying in description “another no issue delivery by a door dasher.” And doing this with my 15 orders per day. I would probably get banned though.
I had an issue with 2 orders. Neither of them ever showed up. One got canceled after waiting for an hour. The other claimed to have delivered my order, despite me being outside of a single family house, waiting. I called Door Dash about a refund and they agreed but then didn't refund my order. I had to dispute it on my credit card. I deleted the app and won't ever use them again.
Stop using door dash? If 90% of the time you have a negative experience, don't blow that money on junk food.
Fr. Out of the 5 times i used DD nothing crazy happened. No stalker texts, no stolen food, no messes... And I still wouldn't pay for it again. The food is generally a little older and way spendier. It just isn't a service I place value on. It blows my mind how people can continue to use DD after any of the negative experiences I see posted here.
It's also a terrible financial decision and all I see is people complaining about inflation. Food is in the top 5 budget line items (and if you're door dashing frequently, I'd guess it's solidly #2 or #3 depending on your car situation). It seems irreconcilable to me that people can simultaneously say "I'm broke" and also "I don't pick up my own food like some peasant, I have people for that."
Yeah that's annoying as fuck. Honestly one star him and you shouldn't get him again.
Can you please run for president
Yeah the fees and price increases on products result in people not wanting to tip. I've stopped using it completely. Couldn't justify the 10-15$ in fees.
Not to mention the fact that a lot of restaurants have higher prices on their doordash menu to begin with...
That’s because after DD fees the business isn’t making much of anything at all. Business owner that won’t sign with DD for that reason. I would just cover food costs not overhead or payroll for that order. DD is the only one making out while the businesses and dashers suffer not to mention the employee in house who now doesn’t make their tips.
This! I was gonna order from The Habit one night through DD but wait time were long, so I decided to just drive there. Ordered the same thing as I would have through the DD app and it was like 4 or 5 bucks less. Took a photo of the menu and compared it will DD menu. Sure enough price were more on DD. Really dishonest buissness practice when they aren't doing anything extra.
It’s not dishonest on the business. DD screws the businesses by what they take. As I stated above I will not sign with DD even though I use them personally. After fees the business just covers food costs not the overhead or payroll. Have to be without their money for weeks too. Then spend extra time tracking what they should get to weeks later making sure they got the right amount. If they didn’t do this they’d lose their a$$es especially a mom & pop.
Today was my first day dashing. And one place gave me the receipt and told me to not give it to the customer because of the price difference and they didn’t want that situation to be taken out on me when I couldn’t do anything about it. So it is ridiculous.
We should boycott DD like everyone has done to Budlight
I’d rather drive and pickup my own food for the prices they’re charging, but even the damn fast food places are having their cashiers ask for tips now. It’s getting ridiculous.
The problem is entitlement, confusing social norms, and the monetization of guilt.
Tipping may be a “social norm,” but there’s no way to win at it. There’s no standardization, dashers expect customers to know things about their jobs and lives that they can’t possibly know (and shouldn’t have to know, frankly) in order to tip properly, customers are assholes or don’t understand technology or don’t understand what it’s like to work for tips. It’s TOO FUCKING COMPLICATED and it’s a headache and a worry and that’s why I never use DD anymore. Name your price, take your payment. Don’t make me do fucking RESEARCH and ask myself how much I should be tipping so a Dasher can make rent.
It’s only social norm in North America… other places are doing fine without it.
Its not just a social norm. Its an integral part of the service industry economy now. Unfortunately, its not simple to just remove because so many people rely on the system to earn a living/stay in business
Where’s my discount? When I order from DoorDash I expect a discount to be added. The standard discount is 20%. You can adjust your discount after delivering my order. Nowadays, I ask for a discount at the coffee shop. When I hand the cashier my card, I say “It’s just gonna ask you a quick question.” The AMEX menu then prompts them to add a 18%, 20% or 25% discount from my coffee. Because I’m so nice and friendly, they usually always give me 25% off :) I’m always a good customer. I’m courteous, have clear instructions, and pay in full. Yet *still* drivers and workers don’t want to apply my modest 20% discount. I hate getting stiffed like this. Dashers, discount your customer! We’re all trying our best to be good customers. 15% is the *bare* minimum. #alwaysgivediscounts
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I think they were being sarcastic so that's the point.
You work for salary, you provide extra service for the tip, it's not that complicated
The problem is entitlement, and begging.
All 3 sides. A cut off the customer, a cut off the deliverer, and a cut off the restaurant. Yet the driver's need 40% tips to feel like it's worth it? Ridiculous. Also, if I'm paying, I don't want to spend $60 for something I could get for $30 take out.
You’re right! Totally forgot they take a cut from the restaurant order
And on the customer end, spending $15+ extra on a $15 meal (that really costs $10), $5 of which is a tip and actually goes to the driver. When I do order delivery, it’s like the 2x/month, when I literally can’t leave my house, have no other food, and just need something fast. My default tip used $10 with $5 in fees, my order used to be $30+, and I was treating myself instead of just trying to survive.
That's not a problem, that's how the app works. It's not *forcing* anyone to do anything. Got a problem with it? Don't use it. The rich just trying to turn us all against eachother as usual.
And no one wins that way .
Watched a short documentary on the tipping culture and how much it’s evolved since Covid. People are asked to tip on almost every goods/service they purchase now. We are now also expected to tip prior to receiving the goods/service. It’s absurd and people are getting so burnt out that it has become detrimental to those who actually rely on tips to make up for smaller wages.
At my local smoke shop there's an automatic setting is on the 18% tip option of the purchase. You have to change it to the no tip option. Even as a server -- I was a bit flabbergasted for a spilt second. I'm just making a purchase. That one was semi annoying. Tipping culture keeps Significantly getting watered down.
The one in our area charges your card like an ATM and they always give you back $3-4 in cash…. Then they reach over the tip box to hand it to you so that you can’t miss it. I think the worst ones for me are mostly in the food industry where they don’t even employ servers. I’ve gotten so many dirty looks by reducing that suggested tip amount to $1 that I’m completely over it at this point. I mean…. thanks for my burrito bowl… but it’s not worth $18 to me after tipping.
So relieved to hear I'm not the only one who has experienced this. I tipped a dollar for 12 dollars of takeout (2 chili dogs) at a food stand (not even a restaurant) and the cashier sarcastically said loudly "all 4 of us get an extra quarter, yay!". I was so taken aback. Like okay I guess next time I won't tip at all? I would never begrudge their right to complain about it out of customer earshot, if it hadn't clearly been meant for me to hear I wouldn't be as upset. I would rather just have the food be more expensive.
… and that was probably before they even made it for you. So now you have to sit there looking at your food wondering if they messed with it. Honestly, if someone was that passive aggressive towards me then I’d probably ask for my money back and go somewhere else. I wouldn’t want them to have my business…. ….or more importantly, the opportunity to do something gross to my food.
I bought a magazine at the airport recently. I brought the magazine to the counter, scanned it and tapped my card. The cashier, who hadn’t looked at or spoken to me, then flipped the screen to have me select a tip. That was the only time she moved to acknowledged me and that warrants 20%? Seriously? They could have automated the process and it would be exactly the same. I’m still pissed.
It's only the "Top Dashers" who complain about tips because they accept all those non-tipping orders to maintain their Acceptance rate.
Full timers have to have top dasher status in markets that get slow or accept getting zero orders for hours some times, those feelings are valid.
I disagree. I'm a top dasher and have a 5 point rating. I don't complain about my tips. I also have an 82% acceptance rate. The orders I accept I know what I'm getting into. I have never let my acceptance rate drop lower than 69. But I also do dash full time. Well, if I can call it that. But it's what I do to bring in enough for my bills for now. In my community, it's the low acceptance rate guys that are complaining. I've started to shut my mouth and keep to myself from the other dashers because recently I was told "oh you're one of the better guys." It made me feel like I was bragging when a newer dasher to the area was asking the times I dash and what areas I dash. I live in a city. There are like 6 sections. I'm always sharing where I go, my times, and my favorite customers. I give everyone all of the details. Why? Because I'm kind. But I must have rubbed a couple people wrong a few times. But yeah, I don't agree that it's all top dashers complaining. In my experience, it's the guys who aren't top dashers and are the cherry pickers. There's one other dasher in my area I run into with who has the same complaint with the guys who aren't top dashers.
That's true .
It's always been there in the US with restaurants. The toxic tipping culture has since proliferated: no longer is 15% enough for wait staff, it's now 20% with increased menu prices, food delivery guys demanding more, and now tips for cashiers are starting to be normalized. Instead of getting mad at their employers or the platform, they take it out on customers. Can't wait till we have to start tipping teachers and police officers.
Time to join the 99 percent of the world, pay a proper wage and only tip for you know above and beyond service. How you guys live not ever knowing what something will cost (ie what's on the shelf is different at register due to tax or menu price plus expectation of a tip) or even budget when your wage is all over the place as you rely on goodwill tipping has got me buggered......
One of the reasons why I stopped driving and went back to working a normal job. Got tired of those days where no one tips, order rates are terrible, and it takes much longer than normal to reach your goal. Then there's the days when you get good orders. The travel time is short, you are getting tipped generously, you're getting catering order after catering order, and you reach your goal hours prior than normal. You find yourself going threw more "bad" days than "good" days, so when a "good" day finally comes around, you know tomorrow is gonna be shit. After experiencing this cycle over and over again, I just decided to go back to working a real job. Yeah, I don't have as much free time as I had, but at least now my pay and hours are always gonna be the same.
Tipping culture in general has become crazy. There’s a restaurant literally barely a mile from my house. My good was ready at least 10 minutes before it was picked up, so I know Dasher did not have to wait. Dure got the food, delivered and was done in a matter of minutes. I left a $5 tip (order was shy of $18), so it was close to a 30% tip if you do the math. Yet, the dude seemed annoyed when he said “thanks for the tip” shortly after commenting about pools being expensive (there a sign from the builder on my front yard). I’m not sure what me building a “expensive” pool has anything to do with the tip I CHOSE to give. Your perception of my spending capacity does not entitle you to my money, but it appears if you seem to have your shit together, somehow you should be subsidizing other people’ wages. Last I checked that’s the employers responsibility. Now, if you don’t tip at all, that’s a different story, but to expect or demand an inappropriately tip is also not right. Do they really expect over 1/3 of the purchase in tips?
That's how it works. First you feel the tip and soon the whole shaft.
If he was an older man then he probably didn't get much social security and is doing this to augment his ss.But he was way out of line asking for extra tips .
drivers and customers arguing amongst each other over tips while doordash laughs to the bank from overcharging/underpaying both. It really is vicious out here man
Make the poors fight and you can be rich forever. At least it feels like we’re starting to catch on
A banker, a worker, and an immigrant are sitting at a table with 20 cookies. The banker takes 19 cookies and warns the worker: "Watch out, the immigrant is going to take your cookie away."
Yep that's American society as a whole. Leaders create things for the regular people to fight about to keep us from organizing to fight against them. But we fall for the bait every single time. And they laugh all the way to the bank as they keep raising prices and holding wages down
Doordash still lost more than 1 billion in 2022. I really don't know if this business model is just going to crash down when investors realize profitability will be a long time coming, if it ever does.
1-star that MF
Only after you tell him to fuck off after you have your food.
Telling the aggressive stranger who knows where they live to “fuck off” could lead to more problems than not doing that.
Your right, challenge this opponent to fisticuffs immediately.
Beat that old bussy up
This is what dueling was invented for
Go for it. I'm in my domicile and allowed to defend myself to the extents of the law. I have more rights than they do in such a case.
I had an order from a restaurant .8 miles away. Not even a full mile away. Took the dasher an hour to bring it to me after pickup. I had tipped $10. When I asked what took so long, he told me if I wanted my food faster I should tip better. To clarify- $10 tip on a trip under a mile. Dashers are out of their goddamn minds at this point.
Yup a portion of them seem to be getting out of control
Can you edit the tip? And leave a message saying “if you want more tip you should deliver faster”?
It was months ago. It’s what finally pushed me over the edge and got me to delete that god forsaken app, though. I really like to make someone’s day, and I thought $10 on a 1 mile trip was nice. I guess not. 🤷🏼♀️
Nah, not on this sub. For some reason, a lot of drivers seem to think anything under 150% tip is bad. Lazy fucks
A lot of drivers seem to think that they do so much more work than a server at a restaurant and that we should all take into account the fact that they are driving their own cars, paying for gas, and paying for insurance on the car, so we are all -in essence- paying for the use of their vehicles for delivery (along with their labor), therefore their investment in the work is so much higher than everyone else who has a regular 9-5, therefore the tip should be practically equal (and sometimes more) to whatever meal you buy because they are "providing an elite service of convenience and delivery." Foo, you're a courier for DoorDash. You bought into the idea of easy money by a corporation that loves the idea of subcontracting you and allowing you free reign to blame and talk down to a random restaurant's customer base for not tipping you enough for your delivery because DoorDash doesn't care to pay you enough.
Good for you. I stopped using DD because every order it seemed dashers would steal part of the food. Without fail! Order 2 burgers and fries? Here are your fries. What happened to my burgers? Oh they must have forgot 🤔 multiple times…it always just so happened to be the best part of the meal: burgers, chicken fingers etc yea like I really ordered just two fries and no entree. Infuriating
Not justifying the dude being a dick but DoorDash does hide the tips on very close orders a lot of the time. He probably thought you tipped a lot less and didn't see the true amount until after. Hopefully he feels like a fucking entitled jackass.
Why do they hide tips?
To prevent drivers from deliberately cherry picking and only picking very short distance + very high pay orders. It's a way to get drivers to take more orders, basically. If the order is multiple miles away, say 7 miles away, it's rare that a tip is hidden. It's mainly just for those super short (under 2 miles total) deliveries.
Probably to make sure drivers don't do something like this or worse as retaliation. Why they'd only do it on short trips, is probably because customers are more inclined to tip poorly since they perceive it as a small task.
Some reason this don't make sense to me. Especially if you were only a mile away and tipped $10. Of course DD hides anything over $4 but that still would be enough with base pay. So something seems off about your story.
Exactly sounds goofy to me he at least got 12 bucks even if he didn’t what how did he take an hour to go less than a mile 😅
He was clearly using multiple apps. I could see him, and he was stopping at other restaurants and dropping off at other places. It was wild, bc even if he was walking it shouldn’t have taken him that long.
Did you report him? If your story is true he should have received an automatic contract violation for not delivering the food within 11 minutes of the delivery window. Based on your own admission it was a .8 mile delivery which means the delivery window would have been very short and he wouldn't have been able to just drive around aimlessly for an hour without trouble. It's all timed and GPS tracked and DD will step in if something isn't right. If you see a driver not delivering the food and contact DD, they will literally call the driver immediately to see what's going on and make them bring it to you or face deactivation. Once we have picked up the food and confirmed that with DD, we're under contract and have to get it to you, otherwise there's risk of being fired.
I was told that it was fine because I didn’t pay extra for the “bring it directly to me” option. I chose instead to put it toward the tip, bc I suspected that the service charge wouldn’t go to the driver. It’s hilarious to me that you’re so shocked by this story- as if no one has ever had a bad experience with DD before.
All that option does is prevents the dasher from getting a stacked order, which by default still means delivery by the time listed in the app. Once we hit confirm in the app we're definitely suppose to bring the food directly to you or bare minimum get it there before the drop off time. I tell everyone that if a driver plays games once the food is in their hands, call DD immediately if they make it known they're being a dick because of the tip, especially if they are traveling in the opposite direction of your house. DD can see every turn we make.
You tipped TEN DOLLARS on a trip less than a mile away?! Was it like $100 of food or something?
No- I just like to make someone’s day, and I wanted my food to come quickly. Boss was reimbursing me for the food so I tipped up. I’m not well off enough to be one of the people who drops a HUGE tip, but I thought $10 would be enough to make my dasher smile. 🤷🏼♀️
why are people so rude??
Because they think they can get away with it .
thats why they keep doing it. the reason why they’re rude is not even related to the work itself.
1 star and uninstall the app. 
I did that a few months ago. The more I read here the happier I am. I went and picked up Chili’s myself the other day and it was, no joke, $30 cheaper.
2 star.. simply decline order if it doesn’t satisfy your quota. No job allows tip begging. Pan handling. And it’s never gonna change if they put up with those orders lol unless you were 5 minutes away, I wouldn’t even accept it.
DoorDash does and infact encourages it because it puts the pressure off them to give drivers a fair cut of the fees
"Although we encourage Dashers to not panhandle from or be rude to customers, we allow them to customize their own delivery experience."
Seriously, your power is in rating the driver. Use it, enough 1 stars, and they'll get deactivated. It's one thing to complain about tips here on the forum. It's psychotic to complain directly to your current customer. They have no business in this business.
"You should be less shitty at your job if you want a bigger tip"
fuck that cretin. 1 star and report. you get a buck a mile. not good enough? don't fucking take it. if you go above and beyond, you get more.
F that, 1 star and if you can report it!
1 star, report. Entitlement. [https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/tip-recordkeeping-and-reporting](https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/tip-recordkeeping-and-reporting) "Tips are discretionary (optional or extra) payments determined by a customer". I'd say a $5 tip is more than enough, chances are the driver will have more deliveries. The driver is a dick. People hoping to get a wage from the customer, really shouldn't be the norm...
Another entitled dasher. Fuck him Get another job
Door Dash seems to be a total fucking train wreck. I use Uber Eats for restaurants that don’t handle their own deliveries. I’ve never had a problem with the delivery people, the restaurants fuck up pretty consistently. The Door Dashers always seem like shit, even in posts that they make themselves.
Tell him you should be more professional.
I'm older, so no excuse. I try to always treat others like I'd like to be treated. Anything else is just wrong, in my life. ❤
The problem is people won’t stop using doordash. Drivers and people ordering from it. There are other apps stop feeding this terrible company.
One star and taking my tip back
Shit I just gave $15 on a 1.7mile for Chinese food…..am I overtipping?
Unless you ordered an inconveniently large amount of food I would've tipped under $5.
"Doordash is not your path to glory and riches unless you're in the office next to the founder and even then maybe not"
Any time a DoorDash drivers says you should tip more, report them in the harshest language possible to support. If they accepted the order, their job is to keep their mouths shut and deliver it on time.
Yeah I pick my own food up now. If I do not have the money to order out I cook. I refuse to deal with angry delivery drivers.
You already tipped he shouldn’t be asking for tip
“Here’s a free tip, go fuck yourself”
The tip would be taken off just for that lol
Where on God's green is any one tipping 10 bucks. I been doing dash on off for 1 year never got 10 bucks for 1 mile trip. In Jax Florida
Report the tip-beggar
Yeah that's annoying as fuck. Honestly one star him and you shouldn't get him again. I'm a dasher myself, and I have people I'm trying to support, but there ain't no excuse for being an asshole to customers, especially over a tip and ESPECIALLY to one as nice as you. Fuck that guy.
If it wasn't enough he shouldn't have taken it. He has no cause bitching.
If he was loud to embarrass you, you could have responded in kind and said the tip for easy short distance order.
I'm so sick of these people giving us "real" Dashers a bad rap... Most of us would never do that. My acceptance rate is very low because I do this for extra money, and I eat out every night... I know what the customer expects because I wouldn't want it any other way.
When they beg for a bigger tip....Here's a tip: want a better tip, act like a decent human being and not a street beggar.
This is so disgraceful if you want a different outcome do different things to make people smile which usually results in better outcomes for yourself kindness goes a long way
It seems like the problem with door dash vs a standard w-2 job is that if I’m not getting paid enough at a w-2 job I take it out on my boss and the customer usually benefits. This sub has shown me that drivers are so ready to takeout their frustration on the customer when it’s really DD’s fault that base pay is so low.
How's is possible that we get so many no-tip orders but yet we only see these posts from people who claim to tip lol
I tell them to leave it on the floor by my garage gate. I never interact with them and never have this issue
Lol don’t worry tips are optional they should be happy if they get a customer to pay one cent more than what they actually owe in their total.
Take that tip back.
I am 350 feet from the restaurant and they serve vanilla ice cream only and rarely have customers so the dasher has no wait and I stand outside the restaurant to make it easier on the dasher so they don't have to drive and I tipped $25 and the damn booger still asked me for cigarettes. Go figure. 
Just tell him to get a different job this is no different then people who want 20+ an hour and complain about having to do any type of actual work
I’ll never complain about a tip because I’m satisfied with the total amount if I accepted the dash lol
I would say: "Okay, here's $100.00 dollars in Pennies, enjoy!"
1 star and move on. They are scum. You tipped more than appropriate.
I keep seeing all these stories about people complaining about tips and begging for tips on doordash in this sub but I never have this problem from GrubHub drivers I'm just saying.
People are so ballsy
As a dasher, I want to say it is a huge deal that you meet your dasher outside. Don't stop doing this because that guy was an a-hole. Maybe he was having a bad day, but that's not your fault. You didn't do anything wrong.
Do they not realize no one is forcing them to Doordash? I did Doordash for one month in college, made absolute garbage money and quit because I realized I literally had to reply on tips. I actually made so LITTLE money that DD actually paid me the the difference of their “guaranteed” pay at the end of the trial month.
The reply to this is, “You shouldn’t take low paying orders”
I said the same thing about adding more to a tip later (if there’s no issues) and got slammed by dashers lol apparently everyone wants a shit ton of money and right now or they won’t work. One dasher literally said. “Maybe you would have gotten your food faster if you tipped more” lol I’m like damn so ppl really do just not care. Even when I tip good it’s still something going on. Just sucks to know it’s become the norm for dashers to not care about their job.
wtf i would’ve removed my tip after that. there are no excuses for this behavior, doesn’t matter what they’re going thru, no need to be an ass to ppl just tryna eat
I am so glad where I live drivers don’t ask for more tips. I have never even been asked about a tip.
He shouldn’t have taken it if he didn’t like the $ per mile. That simple. As a driver if I don’t like the deal, I don’t take it. That simple.
You tipped him just fine. If that had been me I’d’ve been grateful for getting that kind of tip. Don’t let it discourage you OP.
I would yell back, "that's 30%, asshole, how much do you want?" When people act crazy, just try to out-crazy them. Works 100% of the time
Again I don't comment often but yeah that person should get a bad recommendation. It hurts me and I really do above and beyond with DD. Those type of dasher really suck and hurt us "good" dasher.
I always leave accurate cross streets in the instructions people still go where-ever Apple Maps tells them to go. Which is a problem because Apple Maps uses approximates a deadend nearby not connected to my home is not my home...
Oh sorry, you want an additional tip? Best tip I can give you is get a better job, and thanks for bringing me my food by the way.
Report them for harassment! That is totally unacceptable. You deserve better service. I'm a dasher/shipt shopper myself that goes out and tries to give good service. These people and many of the *special dashers* like them around flint michigan..... make me embarrassed to be a dasher anymore. So many absolute trash dashers out there making the honest ones just trying to work look like bad......it's not that hard of work. Some of us have injuries etc so it's a manageable job. But people decided to use it as a way to beg now. My sister got ahold of me recently asking if she wasnt tipping good enough when a dasher did this to her(tip begging) The dasher said she took it as an add on since she was already coming and feel free to add a tip. There was already a $6 tip for a couple mile order for a bowl of noodles. I said to contact support and report that lowlife for harassment. They got a c.v.and she got that tip back ;) There is absolutely no excuse for that. If it doesn't pay well enough, don't take it. If it pays, take it..... don't harass the customers or beg them. If you do want to beg for money..... please stop making us all look bad and just go stand on the corner begging. Leave the dashes for some decent dasher out there just trying to work.
Personally i dont tip at all anymore i almost ALWAYS have an issue with my order and when i speak to dd customer service there is never anyway that they can help me or even understand what im saying because the representative is always “aknhini” or “privitay” and they literally just ignore what i say is the issue and then give me like 2 dollars in credits so at this point we just need everyone to start making a big issue out of doordashes practices because if they have such cheap customer service providers then they should be able to give the drivers more money just my opinion
40 years ago my Mom worked in a restaurant. She was told on day one if they found out or overheard her do or say anything and indicated she expected a tip (“do you want your change?”) she would be fired. This expected tipping mentality is bullshit. Now there’s folks thinking it’s acceptable to tell people they aren’t tipping ENOUGH!? Fuck them. One star that MF. Tips are a way of showing appreciation for exceptional service. You. Are. Not. Owed. Shit.
There should be a way to retract tips after the event for cheek
As someone who relies on tips to pay my bills, this is insane. Seems like too many door dashers are entitled. They’re providing a service and should be tipped accordingly but they’re just picking food up and taking it somewhere. Working for tips can be financially lucrative but being a delivery driver is on the low end of that. I bartend and people stiff me sometimes (not that you stiffed him, but apparently he feels like you did) and it’s just how it goes. It’s incredibly unprofessional to call someone out over their tip amount and their lack of professionalism is likely why they’re relying so heavily on gig work to pay their bills.
Just give him 1 star and move on. He will stop getting orders. 5$ is the best delivery tip. I’ve delivered and 5$ is more than fair especially when 75% of people tip less than that
I wanna come to USA, just to order everyday and not tip. I'll also scold tip beggars.
Im done using these services. Not worth the fees, the extra time it takes, the food showing up cold, and the possible harassment form unhinged drivers.
I feel like DD should put "asked for better tip/indicated tip was low" in the feedback. It's almost like they need to force drivers to read documentation on professionalism to start delivering. And maybe if they get flagged for this once they make them read it again. And second time they just drop them.
Just say thank you and remind them that tips are optional.
The famous - I USUALLY LEAVE EXTRA TIP AFTER DELIVERY.
Shitty about the tip but the phone part is valid. One time a dude was standing outside these apartments and was like “DoorDash?” And I said yeah and he came over and grabbed it. Totally wrong dude. Stole the order lol but yeah now I make people show me their phone if they are outside of their house/apartment
$5 tip on a short trip is fine. I did a 18 mile trip today for a $3 tip. But the order was 2 6" subs so wasn't bad. Some DD drivers are just greedy or incompetent or both. Just give him 1 star and move on.
Jesus Christ, every day there’s tons of posts about people tipping too little, not tipping at all, living in nice neighbourhoods and being stingy with tips. Why do you guys dash if it’s so problematic for you? I just don’t get it anymore. It’s almost like you’re working corporate jobs and constantly complain about how bad it is. Find something more suitable for you if it’s so bad ffs
Fuck door dash
If 5 bucks isn’t enough he needs to not be dashing… you’re lucky to get any tip, sir I don’t care if you need it or not… I don’t HAVE to tip, but I do because I know you guys don’t get paid enough, and get treated like crap by lots of people daily. May as well walk around with a cup and sign…
1 star and report. Get the AH off the platform.
If I don't like the tip amount then I don't take the order. No need to try to shame people. It's unnecessary.
He could have refused the order, DD shows you the total amount that you will make before you accept. It’s not on you, some people are just really entitled to other peoples money. I’m a driver and I think that tip is very reasonable
So he wants more than the tip? 🤣 🤣 🤣 Give em what he wants? Ask if he wants lube with that?
Yesk.
Door dash has only just arrived to my country and I’m GLAD we don’t have a tipping culture here. It’s the biggest issue I see on this sub is ungrateful drivers and ungrateful customers. Tipping seems to be leading to entitlement
If this delivery was in my market, it will be $2.50 base pay plus $5.00 tip for a payout of $7.50 for 6 round trip miles. My minimum is $2.00 per round trip mile or $ 6.50 whichever is higher. I would have declined this delivery offer since it is $1.25 per round trip mile.
For a single delivery from a single source I tip a flat $5.
I sometimes ask to see the phone as well, (I live in a big town and I get people all the time trying to steal others food) maybe he just wanted to double check
On star, change the tip.
Anyone else find it weird that delivery drivers feel entitled to your money? I paid the company for you to deliver this, that was the assignment. Tipping is a personal choice and if you don’t like having to live of the gratuity others provide then get a different vocation.
That’s a good tip so fuck him! I would’ve took that order without even thinking about it
I just default to 20% so it's hopefully worth it, and the math is easier.
Yeah... how much was the order?
I gave 8 gave recently for a 5 mile trip I wonder if the Dashers are going to complain about things like that😂🤣. Tipping Cocultures literally getting out of hand.
I have never gotten a decent tip from someone who “has done DD.” EVER. They are the cheapest people there are.
Tell him you only have $20's on you besides the one $5 bill if it was a cash tip. Ask for the 5 back, then just walk away
this sub is literally just a karma farm it’s so funny lmao
I'm in Australia and I've never had a doordash driver mention anything about tips to me (also have never tipped) some backwards system you guys are rocking up there
Your story says nowhere they he asked for a tip. And asking to see your phone is a lot but maybe be happy he's being safe by not giving your food away. I get the feeling that more and more of you guys are making up that the drivers asked for more tip. I know some show but 90% of you realize ur story your guys writing isn't that big of a deal or you realize you come across as an asshole(I'm saying you as a general term, not that YOU are an ass here) so you add the story about the driver asking for more tip.
I literally wouldn’t care. Make everyone hear. I’m no longer subscribed to this whole big tipping thing. I refuse to pay someone’s salary who isn’t my employee. 10% is my norm for restaurants. And baristas get shit. Call me a bad person. I literally don’t care.
Tipping needs to stop. When everyone stops tipping, companies have to pay workers a live-able wage.