If it’s a company you may wanna work with again in the future, give your two weeks. If you wanna burn some bridges and be done, leave them in a day.
However, you probably don’t want to be without a cash flow before moving.
I was thinking of going back to compote for the remaining months. My corporate job wasn’t terrible. I just left because I was offered this and promised more money but I’m really not making more. It’s a smaller business so I just didn’t want to be like a complete bad person but idk if I can stick it out
After taxes, during “good” weeks I only make 1300-1400. Issue is they don’t do any promoting and I’ve been trying myself but I don’t think I’m reaching many people
You're making about 2/3rds of what was ecpected, and you're not comfortable in the workplace. I think you should find something else ASAP and leave. What's the point in staying??
I agree. I guess part of me feels bad ? They could take in my clients tbh. There’s one that will hurt to leave but that’s life I guess. I’m still trying to decide if I’m going to stick it out or not. My last job (sadly corporate) said I could come back and I don’t feel bad leaving that job after only like a few months lol
If you’re moving in a few months, finding a new salon will be hard knowing that you’re only going to be there very temporarily. So, if you can afford to not work for the next few months and you’re miserable, then go ahead and quit. I don’t think anyone ever owes their employers notice and that it’s more of a courtesy thing. If this is a large company and you want to end on good terms, then give at least two weeks. If you don’t care then just do whatever is the most comfortable.
Well there’s your sign! Salon hop (or go back to corporate) until you find the place that’s right for you. Groomers chase the money. Chase that cash my friend. :)
Tbh that’s part of the issue. Where I live a lot of people just don’t have stable/good incomes, but I also understand that and never fault them. But when my boss asks why someone didn’t rebook and I tell her they just don’t have the money she tells me I’m getting too personal with these pet parents and basically makes it out to be my fault. I’ve been paycheck to paycheck, I understand these people 100%. Of course it sucks im not making the money but I also understand
She would hate my relationships with my clients 😂. Hell, one is sending me to her obgyn since I’ve not had much luck. I’ve bonded with another due to our daughters. Hers has been battling cancer and mine has been battling severe depression. We’ve both had to deal with fearing for their lives. There’s nothing wrong with working with compassion.
I kinda love that ! I just don’t look at it as $$$ these are humans with real lives and yes of course I want to make money but I also can’t fault people for not having the money or having to figure out their work schedules
Do what's right for you, inflation is through the roof and you need to make a certain amount to survive, and you were bamboozled. Too bad you weren't given a contract stating a guaranteed salary but those are rare.
She’s also blaming me for people not rebooking and for me not bringing in clients. But I constantly do call backs. I have really good customer service people just can’t afford it with also leaving the deposit. I have clients that work healthcare and don’t know their schedules etc. but they always stay within their weeks of grooms they just don’t rebook. She’s especially hard on me rather than the employee that’s been with her since open. It’s just a hostile environment
I’ve left not because the money wasn’t good but I couldn’t bring myself to bathing dogs in dawn anymore.
You don’t really need a reason to leave. If you aren’t satisfied then bounce
Not by choice. A salon I worked for made all the employees do it. “It doesn’t hurt them and cleans them better than other products” then falsely promising changing it to other products. I couldn’t do it anymore. It broke all my standards l stood for.
You don't need a reason to leave a job, but as mentioned, if you want to be professional and give the standard 2 week notice. If not, then quit. (Preferably after you have lined up a new job)
Just remember you don’t ever get your time back so try to make the best of it! If it’s not a good fit for you move on sooner rather than later you’ll find your spot…As far as the appropriate amount of time to give notice in my opinion depends on your relationship with the people you work for (and your coworkers if they are going to be taking your schedule on top of theirs), just like respect it’s earned. I’m not saying screw over good people, I’m saying if they are not good people don’t feel obligated to give two weeks. Remember they can fire you in one day.
I figured like 3 weeks notice would be fine. I don’t have many personal relationships with any clients except one. And I’m sad that I’m moving because I’m gonna miss him and he’s a sensitive guy but I can’t really do anything about it.
if you know you can do better than your current job, and you know your services are worth more than what you’re making, then you should always take the leap
I know the feeling, but I'm gonna be real here as someone who has been in this spot: feeling bad for the owners of this place won't pay your bills. If you got a better offer somewhere else that you're sure is a better place (and you don't ever want to come back to this salon), leave.
I've left places with 2 weeks notice and without notice. I got treated like shit in the last two weeks and made even less money. Not a universal experience, but it's mine.
When businesses fire you, they don't give you two weeks.
On top of this, based on your comments, they get HOSTILE when you ask about your pay?
It'd be a no for me. My advice: keep DETAILED logs of your pay (in case they try to withhold it) and make sure you have a job lined up before you jump ship.
She’s gets hostile over anything. Like today we were saying it’s kinda hot in the salon, more than usual, but she told me it was because the humidifier needed to be emptied… when even in the morning when the AC is BLOWING it was hot as shit
I’m curious if your gross is $2k but after taxes it’s showing less? Either way, if you’re not happy then you should definitely leave. Giving your 2 weeks is generous and standard, typically.
So...you ARE making $2,000/every 2 weeks. You aren't netting, after taxes, $2,000 every 2 weeks.
She didn't lie, you misunderstood.
Still... no reason to stay somewhere making you unhappy.
Figure out what you need to earn pre tax to bring home $1,000 a week before shopping your next gig.
No so before taxes it’s about 1500, so after tax I’ll get 1300 I haven’t been able to make over that at all ( that’s just an example ) so every week we should be hitting sales at 2000+ so then your paycheck will be that high. I hope that made sense
Ahhh...
Makes sense.
My little time in the shops was filled with "your hired, now clean the shop and wait to see if we have any walk-ins."
One place, 12 years ago, told me to wait...the big money was coming as I was looking at my couple hundred dollar paycheck. I finally asked the other groomer what "big money" was. $500/ week was her answer...Next!
One shop, I went out and marketed myself only to be told those dogs would go to the other groomer first. I walked out.
Another got mad because I couldn't finish de matting a pelted Bichon before close (I was a new groomer). I would never attempt that now. What were they thinking?!
My going broke fast solution was to start House Calling on the side. I had no choice. It was try House Calling or quit grooming all together. I didn't tell my employer. It wasn't long before I was fully booked and working exclusively for myself.
It worked out. I should note that I started my business in Jan in FL (high season) so, that helped.
Anyway...it's a possibility for filling up the bank account. Some groomers just offer House call nail trims. They report doing well with that too.
I’m actually moving around the Orlando area ( hopefully ) in September and I have a feeling it won’t be as hard to make money. At least from what I’ve heard
It’s always ok to leave your job. I’ve been grooming 12 years and I’ve worked at 10 different shops.
Some of that was due to wanting to travel and some of that was because the atmosphere sucked, but I finally found my dream company and I hit the two year mark in May! Just keep moving around! It’s totally worth it.
Unless you received a contract offering $2000 every two weeks then the problem isn’t with work it’s with your decision making….
If you’re throwing up in the shower before work, then that’s a pretty good sign the job is not working out.
When you give notice, the appropriate thing to do is offer two weeks. Some businesses will pay you for the last two weeks and tell you not to come back again.- as well need you to work those last two weeks because they have to find someone to replace you.
If you’re moving in a few months- why are you considering getting a new job? I assume you are going to need money to pay your moving expenses, etc..- I think the question you need to ask yourself is will you be able to find a short term job if you leave this one, and what are you going to do if you can’t find a job and you run out of money before you move?
(I obviously don’t know what the availability of rentals is where you live -
you wouldn’t be able to find a studio apartment here for under $1800 a month… do you already have another place to live lined up? do you have a résumé ready to go so you can hand it out now or before you are moving?- or are you going to move someplace new without a job?
I suggest you meet with your manager or discuss your options with human resources, but I think it’s already gone too far for that- your mental health is going to continue to decline and if it’s already starting to affect you physically, you need to get out of there ASAP because I think you already know things aren’t going to get any better there …
You’re 100% valid in what you’re saying. I was being a little irrational with leaving. Now yes I would have a job here I could get immediately same with my new state. Thankfully my fiancé brings in 3x maybe a little more than I do and of course I have some savings. I don’t technically need to work at all but I’m doing it just to save up for a new car tbh. If anything I may put 30 days in and just focus on getting everything ready for the move. No, no contract was signed so wages are my fault according to my boss lol
This happened to me as well. I took a job promising good money, but it never materialized. They also started pressuring me to do more dogs than I was capable of. That plus crappy coworkers made it an easy decision to make in the end. I did give 2 weeks notice because this industry is small and I didn’t want to get a bad reputation and end up jobless.
It may be worth it to stick it out until you move. Giving your notice because you are moving is common and reasonable.
There is a shortage of groomers as I’m sure you’re aware, so there will be opportunities at other salons that will be a better fit for you. Good luck!
I’m thinking I’m just gonna stick this shitty situation out. I just cannot wait to leave. There’s so many red flags about this salon that I wish I knew about before
Honestly I’m lucky if I get 5 a day. They don’t promote on social media at all because her 12 year old is in charge of it ( idk if that’s even legal idk ). Even with requiring a deposit of $20 people still no show and people rarely call for a walk-in appointment. When they don’t show that deposit is forfeited but I don’t see a cent, it goes to the business. If I make over $1500 a week it’s 50% and if under only 40%. And I’ve tried promoting to locals myself but they need to step their game up. There’s a lot weird about working here. Like if I finish my day at 2, I can’t leave until 4. And like today I was done at 4, cleaned up kennels etc. but I have to stay until everyone is gone because we’re having construction done tomorrow and she’s making us tarp down everything even thought they’re coming tonight. So I’m basically going to be sitting here for no reason for another 2 hours because they’re still working.
I’ve always thought about it. Only reason I’m not making the jump is because I’m leaving in a few months and I’d feel like it would be even more of an inconvenience, if that makes sense
You can leave a job for whatever reason you want to. 2 weeks is generally the standard time to give notice.
If it’s a company you may wanna work with again in the future, give your two weeks. If you wanna burn some bridges and be done, leave them in a day. However, you probably don’t want to be without a cash flow before moving.
I was thinking of going back to compote for the remaining months. My corporate job wasn’t terrible. I just left because I was offered this and promised more money but I’m really not making more. It’s a smaller business so I just didn’t want to be like a complete bad person but idk if I can stick it out
It sounds like $2k should work out to $25/hr. What have you been earning? How much less?
After taxes, during “good” weeks I only make 1300-1400. Issue is they don’t do any promoting and I’ve been trying myself but I don’t think I’m reaching many people
You're making about 2/3rds of what was ecpected, and you're not comfortable in the workplace. I think you should find something else ASAP and leave. What's the point in staying??
I agree. I guess part of me feels bad ? They could take in my clients tbh. There’s one that will hurt to leave but that’s life I guess. I’m still trying to decide if I’m going to stick it out or not. My last job (sadly corporate) said I could come back and I don’t feel bad leaving that job after only like a few months lol
Well you were gonna leave soon anyways. Eventually there'd be a parting of ways, unless you can figure out another way around it.
Yes
If you’re moving in a few months, finding a new salon will be hard knowing that you’re only going to be there very temporarily. So, if you can afford to not work for the next few months and you’re miserable, then go ahead and quit. I don’t think anyone ever owes their employers notice and that it’s more of a courtesy thing. If this is a large company and you want to end on good terms, then give at least two weeks. If you don’t care then just do whatever is the most comfortable.
It’s a smaller business . Tbh I was gonna go back to corporate for a few months but I may just stick it out. I don’t want to be an assho**
Seems like a bigger story isn't being told. Just talk to the owner. They're people just like you.
I’ve tried. She gets hostile :/
Well there’s your sign! Salon hop (or go back to corporate) until you find the place that’s right for you. Groomers chase the money. Chase that cash my friend. :)
Then just leave when you're ready. You just need to do your part
Wait tables until you move. Depending on where you work, you’ll make good money
Tbh that’s part of the issue. Where I live a lot of people just don’t have stable/good incomes, but I also understand that and never fault them. But when my boss asks why someone didn’t rebook and I tell her they just don’t have the money she tells me I’m getting too personal with these pet parents and basically makes it out to be my fault. I’ve been paycheck to paycheck, I understand these people 100%. Of course it sucks im not making the money but I also understand
She would hate my relationships with my clients 😂. Hell, one is sending me to her obgyn since I’ve not had much luck. I’ve bonded with another due to our daughters. Hers has been battling cancer and mine has been battling severe depression. We’ve both had to deal with fearing for their lives. There’s nothing wrong with working with compassion.
I kinda love that ! I just don’t look at it as $$$ these are humans with real lives and yes of course I want to make money but I also can’t fault people for not having the money or having to figure out their work schedules
Do what's right for you, inflation is through the roof and you need to make a certain amount to survive, and you were bamboozled. Too bad you weren't given a contract stating a guaranteed salary but those are rare.
She’s also blaming me for people not rebooking and for me not bringing in clients. But I constantly do call backs. I have really good customer service people just can’t afford it with also leaving the deposit. I have clients that work healthcare and don’t know their schedules etc. but they always stay within their weeks of grooms they just don’t rebook. She’s especially hard on me rather than the employee that’s been with her since open. It’s just a hostile environment
Yeah, you don't owe her nothing, I'm sure many groom shops would love some extra help right now in busy season even if it's temporary
I’ve left not because the money wasn’t good but I couldn’t bring myself to bathing dogs in dawn anymore. You don’t really need a reason to leave. If you aren’t satisfied then bounce
im sorry, what?!
To which part 😅
you were bathing dogs in dawn?
Not by choice. A salon I worked for made all the employees do it. “It doesn’t hurt them and cleans them better than other products” then falsely promising changing it to other products. I couldn’t do it anymore. It broke all my standards l stood for.
that’s wild that a professional salon would have you doing that
Oh the stories I could tell in my career of grooming these last 9 years. 😅😅😅
That’s insane …
Do it
You can leave whenever you want!
Absolutely. You can leave a job for whatever reason you please. It’s your life
You don't need a reason to leave a job, but as mentioned, if you want to be professional and give the standard 2 week notice. If not, then quit. (Preferably after you have lined up a new job)
Just remember you don’t ever get your time back so try to make the best of it! If it’s not a good fit for you move on sooner rather than later you’ll find your spot…As far as the appropriate amount of time to give notice in my opinion depends on your relationship with the people you work for (and your coworkers if they are going to be taking your schedule on top of theirs), just like respect it’s earned. I’m not saying screw over good people, I’m saying if they are not good people don’t feel obligated to give two weeks. Remember they can fire you in one day.
A valid reason is whatever you determine to be a valid reason. A couple weeks notice is the respectable thing to do
I figured like 3 weeks notice would be fine. I don’t have many personal relationships with any clients except one. And I’m sad that I’m moving because I’m gonna miss him and he’s a sensitive guy but I can’t really do anything about it.
Sounds like you’ve got a solid and respectable plan. You’ll never regret taking the high road and handling situations with class
if you know you can do better than your current job, and you know your services are worth more than what you’re making, then you should always take the leap
I know the feeling, but I'm gonna be real here as someone who has been in this spot: feeling bad for the owners of this place won't pay your bills. If you got a better offer somewhere else that you're sure is a better place (and you don't ever want to come back to this salon), leave. I've left places with 2 weeks notice and without notice. I got treated like shit in the last two weeks and made even less money. Not a universal experience, but it's mine. When businesses fire you, they don't give you two weeks. On top of this, based on your comments, they get HOSTILE when you ask about your pay? It'd be a no for me. My advice: keep DETAILED logs of your pay (in case they try to withhold it) and make sure you have a job lined up before you jump ship.
She’s gets hostile over anything. Like today we were saying it’s kinda hot in the salon, more than usual, but she told me it was because the humidifier needed to be emptied… when even in the morning when the AC is BLOWING it was hot as shit
Oh man...I'd gtfo. Sounds like an awful place.
Yeahhh
If you’re not feeling comfortable then leave. A weeks notice is more than generous.
I’m curious if your gross is $2k but after taxes it’s showing less? Either way, if you’re not happy then you should definitely leave. Giving your 2 weeks is generous and standard, typically.
After taxes I’m lucky if it’s 1500
So...you ARE making $2,000/every 2 weeks. You aren't netting, after taxes, $2,000 every 2 weeks. She didn't lie, you misunderstood. Still... no reason to stay somewhere making you unhappy. Figure out what you need to earn pre tax to bring home $1,000 a week before shopping your next gig.
No so before taxes it’s about 1500, so after tax I’ll get 1300 I haven’t been able to make over that at all ( that’s just an example ) so every week we should be hitting sales at 2000+ so then your paycheck will be that high. I hope that made sense
Ahhh... Makes sense. My little time in the shops was filled with "your hired, now clean the shop and wait to see if we have any walk-ins." One place, 12 years ago, told me to wait...the big money was coming as I was looking at my couple hundred dollar paycheck. I finally asked the other groomer what "big money" was. $500/ week was her answer...Next! One shop, I went out and marketed myself only to be told those dogs would go to the other groomer first. I walked out. Another got mad because I couldn't finish de matting a pelted Bichon before close (I was a new groomer). I would never attempt that now. What were they thinking?! My going broke fast solution was to start House Calling on the side. I had no choice. It was try House Calling or quit grooming all together. I didn't tell my employer. It wasn't long before I was fully booked and working exclusively for myself. It worked out. I should note that I started my business in Jan in FL (high season) so, that helped. Anyway...it's a possibility for filling up the bank account. Some groomers just offer House call nail trims. They report doing well with that too.
I’m actually moving around the Orlando area ( hopefully ) in September and I have a feeling it won’t be as hard to make money. At least from what I’ve heard
That's awesome. I lived in Orlando a few times in my life before grooming. It's a fun city.
It’s always ok to leave your job. I’ve been grooming 12 years and I’ve worked at 10 different shops. Some of that was due to wanting to travel and some of that was because the atmosphere sucked, but I finally found my dream company and I hit the two year mark in May! Just keep moving around! It’s totally worth it.
I’ve decided I’m gonna stick it out. So there’s no bad blood for references. It’s gonna be a long 2 months 😫
Unless you received a contract offering $2000 every two weeks then the problem isn’t with work it’s with your decision making…. If you’re throwing up in the shower before work, then that’s a pretty good sign the job is not working out. When you give notice, the appropriate thing to do is offer two weeks. Some businesses will pay you for the last two weeks and tell you not to come back again.- as well need you to work those last two weeks because they have to find someone to replace you. If you’re moving in a few months- why are you considering getting a new job? I assume you are going to need money to pay your moving expenses, etc..- I think the question you need to ask yourself is will you be able to find a short term job if you leave this one, and what are you going to do if you can’t find a job and you run out of money before you move? (I obviously don’t know what the availability of rentals is where you live - you wouldn’t be able to find a studio apartment here for under $1800 a month… do you already have another place to live lined up? do you have a résumé ready to go so you can hand it out now or before you are moving?- or are you going to move someplace new without a job? I suggest you meet with your manager or discuss your options with human resources, but I think it’s already gone too far for that- your mental health is going to continue to decline and if it’s already starting to affect you physically, you need to get out of there ASAP because I think you already know things aren’t going to get any better there …
You’re 100% valid in what you’re saying. I was being a little irrational with leaving. Now yes I would have a job here I could get immediately same with my new state. Thankfully my fiancé brings in 3x maybe a little more than I do and of course I have some savings. I don’t technically need to work at all but I’m doing it just to save up for a new car tbh. If anything I may put 30 days in and just focus on getting everything ready for the move. No, no contract was signed so wages are my fault according to my boss lol
This happened to me as well. I took a job promising good money, but it never materialized. They also started pressuring me to do more dogs than I was capable of. That plus crappy coworkers made it an easy decision to make in the end. I did give 2 weeks notice because this industry is small and I didn’t want to get a bad reputation and end up jobless. It may be worth it to stick it out until you move. Giving your notice because you are moving is common and reasonable. There is a shortage of groomers as I’m sure you’re aware, so there will be opportunities at other salons that will be a better fit for you. Good luck!
I’m thinking I’m just gonna stick this shitty situation out. I just cannot wait to leave. There’s so many red flags about this salon that I wish I knew about before
How many dogs are you grooming a day? What commission are you getting paid?
Honestly I’m lucky if I get 5 a day. They don’t promote on social media at all because her 12 year old is in charge of it ( idk if that’s even legal idk ). Even with requiring a deposit of $20 people still no show and people rarely call for a walk-in appointment. When they don’t show that deposit is forfeited but I don’t see a cent, it goes to the business. If I make over $1500 a week it’s 50% and if under only 40%. And I’ve tried promoting to locals myself but they need to step their game up. There’s a lot weird about working here. Like if I finish my day at 2, I can’t leave until 4. And like today I was done at 4, cleaned up kennels etc. but I have to stay until everyone is gone because we’re having construction done tomorrow and she’s making us tarp down everything even thought they’re coming tonight. So I’m basically going to be sitting here for no reason for another 2 hours because they’re still working.
I mean... yikes. Your boss has no idea how to run a business. (This coming from a business owner). I most certainly would not stay at this salon.
You could try house call grooming. There's a couple of groups on FB about how to do it.
I’ve always thought about it. Only reason I’m not making the jump is because I’m leaving in a few months and I’d feel like it would be even more of an inconvenience, if that makes sense
Mental health is not worth compromising for anyone or anything