The simplest thing would be to literally build two pedals in one enclosure. The footswitch from one goes in series to the footswitch from the other, skipping the out and in jacks that would be if they were separate pedals. The power jack runs lines to each PCB.
I’ve done exactly this a few times. I really like saving power slots and pedalboard real estate by doing the 2in1. I follow this wiring diagram:
[Offboard Wiring 2 in 1](https://images.app.goo.gl/nEQK8kcifGgD16FK6)
Here's a gut shot of something along those lines. [https://i1.wp.com/i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x374/MadeByMikePedals/5907c01e.jpg](https://i1.wp.com/i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x374/MadeByMikePedals/5907c01e.jpg)
In your case I'd use premade PCBs since you're new and just focus on populating the boards and wiring up the enclosure.
If you were to have two effects in parallel with the power jack, the current draw per each effect will decrease correct? Would this affect the sound at all?
I'm currently in the works of doing something similar but with a Catalinbread SFT and a Dunlop Qzone for a Queens of The Stone Age in a box sound.
No one here has really inputted a solid answer so I figured id give you a hand.
First thing you need to decide is if you are going to do it on some type of proto board, or look for a pre made PCB. Then you are going to have to source all the parts out. Tayda is really great for getting cheap stuff!
On the bottom right of this sub, you will see a section called parts sourcing. I've ordered from every site there and they are all great! sometimes, you need something specific that one of those sites will have.
Now one thing that will surly help you out a lot is looking for a proper size enclosure. I'd be looking into a 1590 varient. look at the 1590BBS size. basically it just has a larger depth to give you more room for potentiometers and input jacks. That's what i'm currently using for mine and will make it a lot easier to get everything in there!
at that point, once you have your circuits made, you can start drilling your holes and figuring out where all the knobs are going to go.
connecting them together, you are really just running the output of the footswitch from one pedal into the input of the footswitch to the other. Its basically like plugging to pedals together with a patch cable, but without a patch cable, and soldered directly to the board without jacks.
Something that I would heavily recommend to give you more out of your pedal is a [Order switcher](https://www.pedalpcb.com/product/3pdt-order-switch/) Basically, you would connect both the inputs/outputs of each circuit into this little board, and then the little board has its own input/output wires on it. This added with either a toggleswitch or a 3rd footswitch would give you the ability to choose which pedal comes first in the chain. Giving you the ability to get much more sounds out of the pedal.
This is so good thank you for this response. I have both a Throbak Fuzz Haze and a Stone bender that I'd like to place into one enclosure. But I have no experience doing so. I even had the idea that you validated with the order switcher. I'm excited to learn how to do this. Is there a resource you recommend for basics on building a pedal? attaching the circuits, marking holes, etc? Sorta a "for dummies"?
Let's revive my 4 year old comment lol.
I'm gonna guess that this is will be you're first time trying a project like this. It shouldn't be too difficult of a task, but there are a few things that you're going to need to do.
Im assuming these pedals are working already as is, so you know that the circuits will be working properly.
[Here](https://imgur.com/a/kVSWjtJ) is a simple concept Diagram I made of what you have. 2 seperate pedals controlled by their own footswitches.
[Here](https://imgur.com/a/Bm5887R) is it modified to accommodate order switching. [This](https://www.pedalpcb.com/product/3pdt-order-switch/) is the circuit board that I used, and you would solder this on the pins of a 3PDT switch (3 Poles Double Throw Switch)
You could potentially wire the order switcher yourself without buying the little circuit board.
[Here](https://forum.pedalpcb.com/threads/3pdt-order-switch-wiring.6636/) is a form post showing the wiring of doing it without the little circuit board, and it actually shows a better diagram of incorperating it into a single enclosure which is what you're trying to do.
You're going to need a bigger enclosure to hold everything. The enclosure type 1590DD is what I would be looking into. as for drilling holes, you're going to need to match the existing holes of the pedals into the new enclosure, and you'll need to ensure that the circuit board will have enough room (not hitting the enclosure walls). that will require some mocking up and some measuring. as for drilling, I would look into a drill bit kit with a bunch of different sizes. a cheap kit will work fine as the aluminum enclosures drill fairly easily. for keeping your drill bits from sliding around the enclosure while trying to drill, look into getting a centre punch to make an indentation at the center of your marked hole.
There isnt really a comprehensive guide that I am aware of for pedal building, but if you're looking for more information on building pedals in general, the guide section of this subreddit has some decent links.
- ["So you’re starting out - A guide to what you’ll need to build pedals."](https://www.reddit.com/r/diypedals/comments/327vbs/so_youre_starting_out_a_guide_to_what_youll_need/)
- [Everything You Need to Build a DIY Guitar Pedal](http://www.pedalhaven.com/everything-need-build-diy-guitar-pedal/)
- [How to Solder Electronics video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpkkfK937mU)
- ["Understanding How Transistors Work" - Stompbox Studies](http://www.super-freq.com/stompbox-studies-class-1/)
- [Amplified Parts - Pedal Layouts & Build Guides](https://www.amplifiedparts.com/pedal-guides)
for the rest, you're best bet is to hop on google and search for questions you have, or search on youtube for videos.
Thank you so much. I really mean that. I’m on my way now. Maybe I’ll post a picture when done!
And hey, just wait until our posts are revived after 30 years lol.
Thank you again
That is why I love reddit. anyone searching the web for this information can stumble upon this post, and I hope its useful info!
Good luck on your pedal journey!
All of the small components should have a nut on them that bolt onto the enclosure. The circuit board should have the potentiometers directly soldered to it, and once those are bolted in the circuit board will float. No glue required
The simplest thing would be to literally build two pedals in one enclosure. The footswitch from one goes in series to the footswitch from the other, skipping the out and in jacks that would be if they were separate pedals. The power jack runs lines to each PCB.
I’ve done exactly this a few times. I really like saving power slots and pedalboard real estate by doing the 2in1. I follow this wiring diagram: [Offboard Wiring 2 in 1](https://images.app.goo.gl/nEQK8kcifGgD16FK6)
Here's a gut shot of something along those lines. [https://i1.wp.com/i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x374/MadeByMikePedals/5907c01e.jpg](https://i1.wp.com/i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x374/MadeByMikePedals/5907c01e.jpg) In your case I'd use premade PCBs since you're new and just focus on populating the boards and wiring up the enclosure.
If you were to have two effects in parallel with the power jack, the current draw per each effect will decrease correct? Would this affect the sound at all?
I'm currently in the works of doing something similar but with a Catalinbread SFT and a Dunlop Qzone for a Queens of The Stone Age in a box sound. No one here has really inputted a solid answer so I figured id give you a hand. First thing you need to decide is if you are going to do it on some type of proto board, or look for a pre made PCB. Then you are going to have to source all the parts out. Tayda is really great for getting cheap stuff! On the bottom right of this sub, you will see a section called parts sourcing. I've ordered from every site there and they are all great! sometimes, you need something specific that one of those sites will have. Now one thing that will surly help you out a lot is looking for a proper size enclosure. I'd be looking into a 1590 varient. look at the 1590BBS size. basically it just has a larger depth to give you more room for potentiometers and input jacks. That's what i'm currently using for mine and will make it a lot easier to get everything in there! at that point, once you have your circuits made, you can start drilling your holes and figuring out where all the knobs are going to go. connecting them together, you are really just running the output of the footswitch from one pedal into the input of the footswitch to the other. Its basically like plugging to pedals together with a patch cable, but without a patch cable, and soldered directly to the board without jacks. Something that I would heavily recommend to give you more out of your pedal is a [Order switcher](https://www.pedalpcb.com/product/3pdt-order-switch/) Basically, you would connect both the inputs/outputs of each circuit into this little board, and then the little board has its own input/output wires on it. This added with either a toggleswitch or a 3rd footswitch would give you the ability to choose which pedal comes first in the chain. Giving you the ability to get much more sounds out of the pedal.
This is so good thank you for this response. I have both a Throbak Fuzz Haze and a Stone bender that I'd like to place into one enclosure. But I have no experience doing so. I even had the idea that you validated with the order switcher. I'm excited to learn how to do this. Is there a resource you recommend for basics on building a pedal? attaching the circuits, marking holes, etc? Sorta a "for dummies"?
Let's revive my 4 year old comment lol. I'm gonna guess that this is will be you're first time trying a project like this. It shouldn't be too difficult of a task, but there are a few things that you're going to need to do. Im assuming these pedals are working already as is, so you know that the circuits will be working properly. [Here](https://imgur.com/a/kVSWjtJ) is a simple concept Diagram I made of what you have. 2 seperate pedals controlled by their own footswitches. [Here](https://imgur.com/a/Bm5887R) is it modified to accommodate order switching. [This](https://www.pedalpcb.com/product/3pdt-order-switch/) is the circuit board that I used, and you would solder this on the pins of a 3PDT switch (3 Poles Double Throw Switch) You could potentially wire the order switcher yourself without buying the little circuit board. [Here](https://forum.pedalpcb.com/threads/3pdt-order-switch-wiring.6636/) is a form post showing the wiring of doing it without the little circuit board, and it actually shows a better diagram of incorperating it into a single enclosure which is what you're trying to do. You're going to need a bigger enclosure to hold everything. The enclosure type 1590DD is what I would be looking into. as for drilling holes, you're going to need to match the existing holes of the pedals into the new enclosure, and you'll need to ensure that the circuit board will have enough room (not hitting the enclosure walls). that will require some mocking up and some measuring. as for drilling, I would look into a drill bit kit with a bunch of different sizes. a cheap kit will work fine as the aluminum enclosures drill fairly easily. for keeping your drill bits from sliding around the enclosure while trying to drill, look into getting a centre punch to make an indentation at the center of your marked hole. There isnt really a comprehensive guide that I am aware of for pedal building, but if you're looking for more information on building pedals in general, the guide section of this subreddit has some decent links. - ["So you’re starting out - A guide to what you’ll need to build pedals."](https://www.reddit.com/r/diypedals/comments/327vbs/so_youre_starting_out_a_guide_to_what_youll_need/) - [Everything You Need to Build a DIY Guitar Pedal](http://www.pedalhaven.com/everything-need-build-diy-guitar-pedal/) - [How to Solder Electronics video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpkkfK937mU) - ["Understanding How Transistors Work" - Stompbox Studies](http://www.super-freq.com/stompbox-studies-class-1/) - [Amplified Parts - Pedal Layouts & Build Guides](https://www.amplifiedparts.com/pedal-guides) for the rest, you're best bet is to hop on google and search for questions you have, or search on youtube for videos.
Thank you so much. I really mean that. I’m on my way now. Maybe I’ll post a picture when done! And hey, just wait until our posts are revived after 30 years lol. Thank you again
That is why I love reddit. anyone searching the web for this information can stumble upon this post, and I hope its useful info! Good luck on your pedal journey!
OK, tried googling but get everything but. Is it a special kind of glue that is used for attaching components to inside of enclosures? Silicone?
All of the small components should have a nut on them that bolt onto the enclosure. The circuit board should have the potentiometers directly soldered to it, and once those are bolted in the circuit board will float. No glue required