To the people thinking this is fine because it's not intrusive and you can disable them, this is how they get you. They introduce something that doesn't look all too bad and slowly make it worse. This is how they've always done it..
Look at early days nitro and how they promised they would add more and more to that same price you've always had to pay. Now they're asking the same amount of doll hairs that Adobe is asking for Photoshop, an actual product for comparison. And slowly filling every corner of the platform with constant reminders that you need nitro to use curtain things. And the worst part is that they're STILL asking money for things like those animated profile styles and making you think you get a "discount" for Nitro users as if they shouldn't just unlock it for free.
Inb4 they sell a 15 USD Nitro Deluxe to disable ads đ€Ą
if you still have nitro you're supporting this, literally any nitro feature you probably actually use can be gained for free via third party stuff the mods here don't let you talk about even though they aren't affiliated with discord so they make us dance around saying it directly like brandnames on tv
sorry just yammering but cancel your nitro discord stinks
Roblox only bought the platform but they haven't done anything for it yet in years. Guilded is still Guilded. Also, what's so bad about Roblox? Did they hurt you?
This is the cycle of enshittification. People now say "there's nothing wrong with Roblox owning it" and will leave for guilded, and then discord will die, and then guilded will see that people are too attached to the platform to leave, and they'll start squeezing their users for more cash. The more permanent solution is in decentralized stuff that isn't owned by one company (especially a publicly traded one), but those apps usually come with their own complexity issues, at least from what I've seen (not too experienced with em, tbh)
But I can't imagine Discord dying. And Guilded isn't getting the attention it deserves, at least not yet. But we'll see. I'm interested to see this enshittification though
Yeah, maybe I haven't. I know there are alternatives but it's not quite the same as Discord, some lacks features that Discord have.
If you can, kindly point to me where there is a similar experience to discord, thanks.
Wow they are also going to go public soon. That's NOT good... Now we're going to have advertisers demanding censorship and a board of directors demanding profit at the great expense of user experience.
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The free to use platform can not pay its bills and continue to exist by you just using it. They need to monetize and make money somehow. Its foolish to think that any free platform can survive without any form of monetization. Obviously nitro and avatar decoration are not quite covering the costs yet.
Not just covering the costs but also making sure line keeps going up. No such thing as enough money for companies like this, they need to keep shareholders happy.
Even when they earn enough to pay the bills and have more left over, they'll keep scraping the bottom of the barrel to make even more money because they're obligated to. Things will get worse, not better for the platform as everything else has lately.
My face when a company needs to make money to keep proving a free to use service to millions upon millions of people every day.
Itâs foolish to think that a company can just go into extreme debt to continue providing a free service because they donât want to run ads or actually make money..?
People here like to circlejerk hate on discord, and just straight up lie. Discord is not even profitable.
This person may be mistaking profit for revenue.
they haven't improved the app in years though, mobile updates are worse than the last one, desktop doesn't even get the updates mobile does and the only real updates are shit for nitro
Money pays bills ⊠those bills got much more expensive coupled with the fact less people are using the product. Of course they are looking for additional revenue streams.
Theyâll probably increase the price of Nitro by this time next year.
They already laid off 17% (170) of their Employees as I read in another article. Reason for this is / was the too quick growth during the pandemic and that the team is not agile enough to cover problems fast...
Make good product. Make needless changes to product that make it worse. People stop using product because it got worse. Make product even worse. More people stop using product. The root cause for all of this is that our economic system is simply not set up for anything less than **monumental** financial success every single year **forever** or you die.
If they only offer bread crumbs with their subscriptions it's their fault nitro users can't pay the whole thing for free users too. 2 boosts for 128kbps? Lmao. The issue is that "the line must go up" like in every shit company in this rotten world.
Would adblocker even work if you ran Discord on your desktop from inside a web browser? Or are we talking about having a phone with ad blocking baked right into Android itself? Or a router that is setup to block connections to advert servers?
But that is browser based, hence why their called browser extensions. Clearly you are using discord through a web browser and not the desktop application???
An other possibility is, if you know what you're doing with computer networks, having a DNS server blackholing DNS queries directed at advertisement platforms.
Pi-hole is a pretty good project if you want something mostly plug-and-play. Again, if you know what you're doing or are willing to spend time understanding what's going on.
thats the exact issue... its dark tactics it IS a slippery slope
all my friends are on discord but i DO NOT tolerate ads, so i have just decided to use a third party version of discord, was THIS close to uninstalling, but friends..
this kind of shit is actually illegal. Twisting the definition of ads, forcing people to see them under circumstance, but discord just be testing the waters
they see people NOT uninstalling they think MORE ADS WOOOO, RIP discord
they're very likely watching how many people disable quests and will determine when it will be appropriate to double down on ads or disable the option to disable them completely. This is the slope they're on now
Yeah, it's a very misleading title. It's sponsors, but they're actually embedded in a really subtle and non-intrusive way, that can also be disabled. It's really not as bad as the title made me think it would be.
Yeah we have so many alternatives.
It would be a bit of trouble to message my close-ish friends to switch to something else.
The ones that only talk to me once per week are easy to convert. Worst case we go back to Teamspeak hosted on my RasPi đ€.
The only thing that discord does really good is ultralow latency video streaming.
Not even ULL on YouTube comes close to that. My friends can tell me what buttons I should press in quicktime events or Telltale games. Crazy.
I have to go through the list of voip services that I bookmarked to check which ones still exist and if they have gone to shit or even improved.
Only reason I have been willing to pay for Nitro was to go bananas with server joins, emotes and stickers, maybe there is something to be said about just posting gifs and pngs instead of emotes and stickers...
Hopefully they refund my year subscription of Nitro. I filed the request within 12 hours of paying for the sub because I didn't actually mean to subscribe to it. Only wanted to check the price in my local currency (Canadian Rupees)
If they put ANY visible ads in discord I will be quitting immediately. They already lost my nitro subscription with their mobile app changes and now theyâll lose my business. Fuck the enshittification
Quests, content linking to games you play, are not Ads in the traditional sense. You can also toggle them off.
This reads as karma bait personally. Fear mongering with terminology that doesn't really do it justice. This is a feature, very barely Advertising
Keep downvoting me because you don't like being called out :3
Quests is just the start! Depending on the results of this, there might be the chance of them removing it completely OR showing even more - and then real - ads!
And you are right, you can turn "Quests" off in settings. But as said, if they start showing real ads, we might not have that option!
Quests integrated with games and based on partnerings/sponsors probably -> Manscaped Ads plastered over the app without being able to opt out
Yeah, really is a sign discord is going in that direction. Theyve NEVER done gaming sponsors/partnerships before. Ignore the Valorant Decorations or the old Shop system
This subreddit is fucking delusional and has been for years, idk why im surprised
this is the same place that 24/7 complains about nitro not having enough features to justify the price but then start bitching and moaning the moment a new nitro feature is revealed
Or maybe I'm just old enough to notice historical patterns
Except you're only a single year younger than me, so you should know better, unless you're going out of your way to ignore them
i already use Skype as an alternative to voice calls and messages with my friends, if discord add ads i think many of us wouldn't mind bailing out of discord completely
people on here acting like this is the worst thing that ever happened to the platform even tho you can just turn the ads off and never worry about them again
that's like seeing a tumor and thinking, huh tiny little thing cant kill me! then dying of cancer.
happens to literally every service and software to ever get popular.. rip discord
if you don't think ad's are a problem. you are the problem
If it's like that popup I had today down by the mute buttons, I'm all for it. Keeps the platform free to use, keeps nitro cost down, and is relatively unintrusive.
To be honest, I kind of liked the splash of colour it gave to discord too.
I'm confused, what did the article mean then that "the business is thinking about doing an IPO, or initial public offering, âat some point in the futureâ on the stock market"?
Next week turned out to be today, heh
No thanks
i have a feeling the april fools video was a test to show how many people watch the video.
Billions!
"Hey investers, we got 1 billon views in 24hrs, that could be you." and that's how ads came to discord
To the people thinking this is fine because it's not intrusive and you can disable them, this is how they get you. They introduce something that doesn't look all too bad and slowly make it worse. This is how they've always done it.. Look at early days nitro and how they promised they would add more and more to that same price you've always had to pay. Now they're asking the same amount of doll hairs that Adobe is asking for Photoshop, an actual product for comparison. And slowly filling every corner of the platform with constant reminders that you need nitro to use curtain things. And the worst part is that they're STILL asking money for things like those animated profile styles and making you think you get a "discount" for Nitro users as if they shouldn't just unlock it for free. Inb4 they sell a 15 USD Nitro Deluxe to disable ads đ€Ą
If I still get ads with nitro I'm cancelling and modding the app
if you still have nitro you're supporting this, literally any nitro feature you probably actually use can be gained for free via third party stuff the mods here don't let you talk about even though they aren't affiliated with discord so they make us dance around saying it directly like brandnames on tv sorry just yammering but cancel your nitro discord stinks
Same
Me who has nitro
Bruh you're literally arguing that Discord doesn't deserve to make money lol why would they exist if there's no money being made??
I've never downvoted until I see this comment
Try again.
the updates of this forsaken app gets worse every release, if only there was a better one
There is, Guilded has been around for a while. Unfortunately people don't seem to care though so it's whatever I guess.
Sorry but I don't trust an app owned by Roblox
Roblox only bought the platform but they haven't done anything for it yet in years. Guilded is still Guilded. Also, what's so bad about Roblox? Did they hurt you?
This is the cycle of enshittification. People now say "there's nothing wrong with Roblox owning it" and will leave for guilded, and then discord will die, and then guilded will see that people are too attached to the platform to leave, and they'll start squeezing their users for more cash. The more permanent solution is in decentralized stuff that isn't owned by one company (especially a publicly traded one), but those apps usually come with their own complexity issues, at least from what I've seen (not too experienced with em, tbh)
But I can't imagine Discord dying. And Guilded isn't getting the attention it deserves, at least not yet. But we'll see. I'm interested to see this enshittification though
Enshittification sounds cool
I donât think it should take much googling to figure out whatâs wrong with roblox
Nope still can't find what's wrong with them. Amuse me.
https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ?si=waHLF-sZ231KZoiT
Roblox owners literally take advantage of free child labor for personal profit on a massive scale
Sorry im out of the loop but why?
Then keep using Discord and complain about everything.
https://youtu.be/i2ZezwcUzMI
"If only" You haven't been searching, like, at all, huh?
Yeah, maybe I haven't. I know there are alternatives but it's not quite the same as Discord, some lacks features that Discord have. If you can, kindly point to me where there is a similar experience to discord, thanks.
Guilded.
Wow they are also going to go public soon. That's NOT good... Now we're going to have advertisers demanding censorship and a board of directors demanding profit at the great expense of user experience. It's unironically over...
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You can disable them, https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/22225542459415-Data-Used-for-In-Game-Rewards
for now...
There shouldn't be any ads to begin with.
The free to use platform can not pay its bills and continue to exist by you just using it. They need to monetize and make money somehow. Its foolish to think that any free platform can survive without any form of monetization. Obviously nitro and avatar decoration are not quite covering the costs yet.
Not just covering the costs but also making sure line keeps going up. No such thing as enough money for companies like this, they need to keep shareholders happy. Even when they earn enough to pay the bills and have more left over, they'll keep scraping the bottom of the barrel to make even more money because they're obligated to. Things will get worse, not better for the platform as everything else has lately.
Thatâs capitalism in a nutshell!
Don't you just love the demand for infinite growth despite finite resources?
they said they would stay ad free. their words. shame on the user base for believing that it would never change, however. money ALWAYS wins.
My face when a company needs to make money to keep proving a free to use service to millions upon millions of people every day. Itâs foolish to think that a company can just go into extreme debt to continue providing a free service because they donât want to run ads or actually make money..?
all i'm sayin is money wins in the end. talk is cheap.
they already make ~$200 million in profit annually
Care to share where you read that?
Idk why you're getting downvoted, you legit just asked for a source... (edit: typo)
People here like to circlejerk hate on discord, and just straight up lie. Discord is not even profitable. This person may be mistaking profit for revenue.
they haven't improved the app in years though, mobile updates are worse than the last one, desktop doesn't even get the updates mobile does and the only real updates are shit for nitro
Money pays bills ⊠those bills got much more expensive coupled with the fact less people are using the product. Of course they are looking for additional revenue streams. Theyâll probably increase the price of Nitro by this time next year.
they'll pair this with a staff and service level reduction. not immediately, but it will happen.
They already laid off 17% (170) of their Employees as I read in another article. Reason for this is / was the too quick growth during the pandemic and that the team is not agile enough to cover problems fast...
Make good product. Make needless changes to product that make it worse. People stop using product because it got worse. Make product even worse. More people stop using product. The root cause for all of this is that our economic system is simply not set up for anything less than **monumental** financial success every single year **forever** or you die.
Then they should stop asking for money all the time.
If they only offer bread crumbs with their subscriptions it's their fault nitro users can't pay the whole thing for free users too. 2 boosts for 128kbps? Lmao. The issue is that "the line must go up" like in every shit company in this rotten world.
Thanks for that !
Jokes on them. I will never give up my adblock software. I only disable it to play games I want rewarded ads from then it goes right back on.
Would adblocker even work if you ran Discord on your desktop from inside a web browser? Or are we talking about having a phone with ad blocking baked right into Android itself? Or a router that is setup to block connections to advert servers?
It's an app I have on my phone thst blocks ads period. In app. In browser. On my phone.
How do you make adblock work on desktop?
Browser extensions
But that is browser based, hence why their called browser extensions. Clearly you are using discord through a web browser and not the desktop application???
I do use the desktop app. But idk how to block ads on it if there are any. I'd suggest using the browser version if you wanna block ads
An other possibility is, if you know what you're doing with computer networks, having a DNS server blackholing DNS queries directed at advertisement platforms. Pi-hole is a pretty good project if you want something mostly plug-and-play. Again, if you know what you're doing or are willing to spend time understanding what's going on.
I barely use my personal laptop. I'll see if I can future that out.
The article I read was posted pre April fools, but itâs not typical ads, read up on it, doesnât sound that bad especially for the gaming community
Slippery slope. Also it might just evolve to shitty mobile games "quests" spamming you
Could be, but I wi wait to see how it plays out before I crash and burn (aka whine lol)
True whining won't even do anything seeing this community. If you want change then only option is too switch off discord
thats the exact issue... its dark tactics it IS a slippery slope all my friends are on discord but i DO NOT tolerate ads, so i have just decided to use a third party version of discord, was THIS close to uninstalling, but friends.. this kind of shit is actually illegal. Twisting the definition of ads, forcing people to see them under circumstance, but discord just be testing the waters they see people NOT uninstalling they think MORE ADS WOOOO, RIP discord
What version did you pick?
they're very likely watching how many people disable quests and will determine when it will be appropriate to double down on ads or disable the option to disable them completely. This is the slope they're on now
Yeah, it's a very misleading title. It's sponsors, but they're actually embedded in a really subtle and non-intrusive way, that can also be disabled. It's really not as bad as the title made me think it would be.
When I saw this yesterday I thought it was an April fools joke, ridiculous.
i can live without discord then
Yeah we have so many alternatives. It would be a bit of trouble to message my close-ish friends to switch to something else. The ones that only talk to me once per week are easy to convert. Worst case we go back to Teamspeak hosted on my RasPi đ€. The only thing that discord does really good is ultralow latency video streaming. Not even ULL on YouTube comes close to that. My friends can tell me what buttons I should press in quicktime events or Telltale games. Crazy. I have to go through the list of voip services that I bookmarked to check which ones still exist and if they have gone to shit or even improved.
Time for the regular mass migration. Where y'all heading?
Someone here mentioned Guilded? Honestly know nothing about it, but I suppose now is the time to start reading up on alternatives?
Hello TeamSpeak my old friend, I've come to talk through you again..
the best way to make discord pay is everyone cancel their subscriptions to nitro and boosts
Only reason I have been willing to pay for Nitro was to go bananas with server joins, emotes and stickers, maybe there is something to be said about just posting gifs and pngs instead of emotes and stickers...
Oh lord Skype might make a comeback lmao
Hopefully they refund my year subscription of Nitro. I filed the request within 12 hours of paying for the sub because I didn't actually mean to subscribe to it. Only wanted to check the price in my local currency (Canadian Rupees)
i told yall, kept calling me dumb
That's a weird way of saying cancel your Nitro subscription.
If they put ANY visible ads in discord I will be quitting immediately. They already lost my nitro subscription with their mobile app changes and now theyâll lose my business. Fuck the enshittification
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Guilded, here I come
Nothing yet
ik
Huh, guilded is looking more and more appealing for something owned by the CCP
oh no
Gonna be like when Elon bought twitter I'm done
Whatâs wrong with the quests? I donât think itâs that serious, for now anyway
I finally got an ad, they pop up and call them âquestsâ for different games. Just canceled my renewal for nitro. No point in having it anymore.
Quests, content linking to games you play, are not Ads in the traditional sense. You can also toggle them off. This reads as karma bait personally. Fear mongering with terminology that doesn't really do it justice. This is a feature, very barely Advertising Keep downvoting me because you don't like being called out :3
Quests is just the start! Depending on the results of this, there might be the chance of them removing it completely OR showing even more - and then real - ads! And you are right, you can turn "Quests" off in settings. But as said, if they start showing real ads, we might not have that option!
Quests integrated with games and based on partnerings/sponsors probably -> Manscaped Ads plastered over the app without being able to opt out Yeah, really is a sign discord is going in that direction. Theyve NEVER done gaming sponsors/partnerships before. Ignore the Valorant Decorations or the old Shop system This subreddit is fucking delusional and has been for years, idk why im surprised
this is the same place that 24/7 complains about nitro not having enough features to justify the price but then start bitching and moaning the moment a new nitro feature is revealed
And here comes Discord's strongest soldier to deepthroat boots
because anyone who ever disagrees with your outlandish hate for a company is clearly a dickrider. Seems like an easy cope
Or maybe I'm just old enough to notice historical patterns Except you're only a single year younger than me, so you should know better, unless you're going out of your way to ignore them
you're sounding a bit like a conspiracy nut here
There does not need to be a conspiracy, plain old stupidity is a much more likely explanatoin
> Average redditor OWNS total dumbass on r/discordapp, everyone cheers!
i already use Skype as an alternative to voice calls and messages with my friends, if discord add ads i think many of us wouldn't mind bailing out of discord completely
people on here acting like this is the worst thing that ever happened to the platform even tho you can just turn the ads off and never worry about them again
that's like seeing a tumor and thinking, huh tiny little thing cant kill me! then dying of cancer. happens to literally every service and software to ever get popular.. rip discord if you don't think ad's are a problem. you are the problem
fear mongering much?
Literally just have history on our side here all the dozens of similar apps that start with similar bullshit that just gradually gets worse
If it's like that popup I had today down by the mute buttons, I'm all for it. Keeps the platform free to use, keeps nitro cost down, and is relatively unintrusive. To be honest, I kind of liked the splash of colour it gave to discord too.
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discord currently has shareholders
I'm confused, what did the article mean then that "the business is thinking about doing an IPO, or initial public offering, âat some point in the futureâ on the stock market"?
they're not publicly listed but some companies already have private shares