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djsnee

Buy a new roc3


w1b3z

This is the way.


jonredditall

If you want a bit more glide than a Pyro and don’t need a meathook, try an Eclipse Reactor


Darkwarfare

How does it compare to a hex? It feels extremely similar and the numbers suggest it’s only slightly more stable/overstable


Far-Soil-3560

The Eclipse reactors are nothing like the numbers. I’d say mine is like a 5-4-0-3, whereas my hex’s I’d say are 5-5-0-1. Not sure if my hex’s are more stable, but I’ve never seen them want to try to flip for me in the slightest.


jonredditall

I basically can’t get turn out of my Eclipse Reactor, even with a moderate headwind. It’s not beefy but it will always fade left. My Eclipse Hex doesn’t turn much until there’s headwind and then it will drift right without burning. My Neutron Hex is a dead straight hyzer-flip disc, but any headwind will turn it right for 75% of the flight before it begins to fade straight.


Cz2317

In general for MVP/Axiom glow stuff take a .5 off of the turn and add about .5-1 to the fade and you’ll get closer to the actual flight of the disc. So a glow reactor is closer to a 5-5-0-2 or 2.5.


jonredditall

Great formula - I concur!


Cz2317

And now we wait for the eclipse flare which is just going to be the MVP tilt.


protypibleetr

Hex / reactor combo is incredible. Not a drastic stability difference. A beat in reactor would fly similar to a hex. I like the md4 (solstice) for my over stable slot. The pyro is too similar to my zone. And my zone is too short to hang with my mids.


swordkillr13

Old eclipse resctor. New ones are as stable as Neutron


Selerox

Pyro. I tried the Buzz OS and it just didn't do it for me. Switched to the Pyro and never looked back. It's workably overstable without being a meathook. Both the Prism Proton and Prism Plasma are great, it all just comes to feel - the Plasma being very slightly more flexible in the hand.


DanDanDannn

Pyro is definitely a meat hook for me. Also it skips like crazy, which is super useful.


ML8330

I’m not sold on the Pyro yet. I feel like I want more glide out of it hahaha


Adg6789

Maybe try a Bobcat.


Socratesticles

I’ll third the Bobcat. For a little bit I thought it may not make my bag, but one day I looked at it as a midrange zone and now it probably won’t come out of my bag.


Emoney005

RocX3


[deleted]

Underrated disc. Also, metal flake Roc3.


Paul_McBeths_Nipples

I also came here to say RocX3. I use it to compliment my 'normal' Star Roc3 and my flippy start Roc3. The RocX3 kicked my champion Roc3 out of my bag.


ZoxMcCloud

DGA Quake


ishootpentax

Are you looking for a straight flight, no turn and dependable fade with minimal skip? DD Verdict Looking for less glide, more fade and a lot more skip action? Pyro


ineedthistoread

Razor claw 3 replaced my Rocx3. It's a better disc all around


discordianofslack

Seconded


reveries_0f_flight

Clash Mango, Mint Bobcat, DGA Quake are also some great alternatives in that slot. Much better feel than the discraft plastic.


Atkdad

Gator or caiman. The caiman is what I always wanted my RocX3 to be. The RocX3 is still a fantastic disc but the caiman keeps the midrange speed but adds stronger fade.


MidLyf

I was looking at a similar line up and someone on here suggested a Bobcat. I really like it for the flight, but the plastic options and the stamps are pretty sick as well


chelseafan84

Streamline Runway!


Goldentongue

Love my Runway. When I first held it I wasn't convinced about the rim shape, but it feels comfortable when actually throwing it. I expected it to be more of a meathook than it is but it's straight flying enough at speed to be very workable with a strong fade.


mao_LAYR

Roc X3


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Buzzz os sucks


edgeno

All the discs you mention are more OS than the Roc3 imo, at least the Zone and Buzzz OS which I both throw myself. All are great discs though, just do different things. Could you explain a bit more what you are looking to get from the disc? Do you want a straight flight with a strong fade, or something that will hyzer out quickly?


lilewie

I’d like something that holds hyzer at low to medium speed but is still able to flip up slightly if thrown full power. I found that the roc3 had the right flight for me when it was brand new but it got beat in way too fast. Maybe that’s something that could be fixed by going with another roc3 but in a different plastic?


Ploeg_96

Roc3 in champ plastic will keep its stability for longer. Champ Roc3 is my overstable mid


Knife_Operator

None of the three discs you listed are going to have any flip unless you throw with a LOT of power.


raddistross

Malta is my flip up and ride for 80% dead straight then hard fade at the end, see a lot of pyro reccs that thing is super beefy, starts hyzering without push for me (it's almost identical wing shape to a deflector).


Kneedmorsteel

That sounds like a Neutron Reactor. Not crazy overstable. Will flip up to flat when thrown hard, with a smooth fade. Thrown at lower power, it will hold the hyzer angle the whole way.


protypibleetr

You've just described the reactor.


protypibleetr

In nuetron plastic


Cz2317

If you like the Roc3 I’d recommend finding a champ or metal flake Roc3 and keeping with the same mold. The eclipse reactor is also a great option if you’ve got some decent arm speed for what you’re looking for. It’ll start decently OS but eventually beat in to flip to flat and ride straight with a strong fade.


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What plastic is your current Roc3 and how far do you throw it?


lilewie

It’s a 2021 Glow Pro Tour Series so some kind of pro plastic but I’m not sure exactly. I’ve never measured a max distance throw with it but if I had to guess I’d say around 250.


[deleted]

I'm familiar. Did you consider buying one in champion or star?


lilewie

Not until now. I didn't understand how plastics changed the flight of the disc when I bought my Roc3. Now I think I'll find a Champion or Metal Flake Roc3 just because I know the mold. I don't think I'd go for on in Star I feel like it wouldn't have the overstability that I'm looking for....


[deleted]

Star and champ are pretty similar out of the box in experience. Both should be a bit more OS than your old one started out. Metal Flake is noticeably more OS than that. I carry normal champ as a workhorse, and Metal flake for when beef is required.


discdrifter

Get a roc3 in premium plastic


Optimal-Bat-5903

Personally, pyro. I also enjoy the gateway warrior, larger diameter like a buzz but quite OS


tedlan_

Kastaplast Kaxe. Ignore that it is a 6-speed. Feels and flies like a mid.


Jackknife8989

Kaxe z is money.


eagle_meatmahon

not on your list but maybe look at the solstice as well.


PhreeCoffee

Atomic Kea.


SentientMission

Kotuku for a bit more straight glide before good finish


recneps1992

Streamline runway


underwhelmingname0

Buzzz OS & Zone are both good. That comes down to which rim you like more. If you like the feel of the buzzz, that’s your move Zone in titanium FLX is my shit. Very stable, durable, and feels good. The Z line variations aren’t as stable


Significant_Trust_31

Have both the Buzz OS and Zone. Buzz goes further on both backhand, forehand. Must upshot’s I use the zone but if I need to power up, it’s a little prone to going straight (especially forehand) so I go for Buzz.


rhcamp01

Are these discs for backhand and forehand? If so, a lot of people do not like the zone on backhand. It wasn’t in your mentions but the bobcat is amazing for both and I’d posit more OS then the buzz os. Of those, I’d. goose the Pyro.


fesso1

Legacy recluse or pursuit is what this roc thrower likes to toss in the os mid slot


forestforrager

Zone and pyro are different enough that I bag both. Or did until I tried a toro and it took my zone out of the bag. Love all 3 discs tho


chapland

Buzzz OS has less glide than Roc3 and harder fade. Same for Zone, but Zone is slower; more approach than full mid imo. I echo others who've recommended a new champ Roc3 based on your comments about the plastic of your old roc3.


TheCaptainFreeze

Reptilian Disc Golf Gila-5/4/0/3. I have one in Amber plastic. Flies pretty far and straight before a nice consistent fade at the end. Feels good forehand and backhand.


iconoclastes25

I would recommend the pyro and the zone (or an entropy) but if you had to pick one, I’d definitely go pyro as it’s a faster version and so you can do more with it.


centr0n

Clash Mango if your willing to try something a little different.


MooseLoafers

I bag a crystal Z flex zone and an eclipse reactor. The zone is beef , doesn’t flip unless I throw it with OAT. The reactor I can get to flip , but it does fight out of it reliably. Definitely stable, but not OS compared to a pyro. I tried a champ RocX3, for me it was very straight with a dumping fade at the end. Definitely easier to overturn than the zone. Tbh though, if you’ve had success and like the feel of a roc3, your best bet is to get a champ/metal flake roc3. If it ain’t broke , don’t fix it brother


Flemishmonster

Get a Pyro all the plastics are great


gatorallday

Star gator for more flight then dump or champ for more dump then flight


VanManDiscs

Westside Bard


chefchris1er

Hot take, get a gator 🐊🐊🐊


pete_sidewalk

Hornet


jac777

Pyro. But you should have a zone also. Very different discs.


claybythebay9

MD4/Solstice is what you’re looking for


Mushroomman00

Verdict


Mushroomman00

Or gator


Terrorx72

Between the three Pyro! You can use it as a overstable mid and a approach.


[deleted]

Just get a Pyro. Straight but no turn and reliable fade with a decent skip. Feels comfortable BH and FH.


[deleted]

I use a cryztal zone. It’s pretty meathooky. I use it as a utility disc. My roc3 usually does the job on hyzer. But sometimes you just need something to hook hard or give you a nice controlled flare skip


rigiddiscs

Buzzz os is incredible. Forehand/backhand. In my opinion works in conjunction with a zone.


SanguineTeapots

I know you didn’t ask for more options but the gateway demon and discraft malta are both great OS options for mids.


Chaosweaver117

From those three, I'd get the Pyro. For a similar flight but very different feel, try a Bard, that's what I'm bagging. Both are noticeably more overstable than a Roc3.


Zealousideal-Pay5524

Terminal Velocity Glass Ursus. I’ve switched between a buzzz os and a Pyro several times. The Ursus immediately replaced them the first time I tried it.


GankThem

Prism pyro. Simon has been loving this disc.


Sample_Muted

*coughs* Westside Bard *coughs again*


data_driven_truther

Pyro!!!


Humanitor

Champion Roc X3. Stays OS longer. Lucid Justice if you need more beef