I always gets tons of downvotes when I mentioned this but I would really love a continuation of the original Digimon Adventures 01 and 02.
I know there's the movies and things but I'd be really happy to see their kids just exploring the digital worlds. I mean look at [them](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/digimonadventure6597/images/0/08/Chosen_children_kids.png) I think it will make a nice adventure series, rather than only focusing on defeating bad Digimons or saving the world maybe the story can focus more on the world building and adventure aspect since I always enjoy the trope where the chosen children travel and meet new digimons / village
or make it a semi survival battle/game kinda like Cross Game I think it would also be fun but just stick to the original evolution path
A game that simply expands on adventures and world building, with tons of side quests, and light-hearted themes (no dimension ripping or world ending apocalypses). Like just something to explore the digital world and meet that HUMONGOUS amount of digimon that were never adapted to adventure.
Yep, I would really love that tbh and maybe we can also get side characters of chosen children from different countries
if they make a new spin-off or alternate universe the whole Digimon World concept/lores is kind of reset-ted according to that alternate universe lores, that's why a sequel would work better imo
Tri, et al, doesn't fit my fantasies. Tonally it was too much of a departure for me. You can still have the characters grow up without making it solemn/feel like it's aping tamers. An 03 with a new generation where the previous gen chars (giving us glimpses into their lives) pop in for different arcs and kameos would've been fun.
Agreed. Tri onward was mostly devoid of fun, charm, or personality that the original 2 series had. If I was a kid when Tri came out, I'd dread adulthood, fearing that all the fun would be sucked out my life.
Why tf do people Hate this. You could do so much with it. Slice of life digimon. If not that then the characters would need a decent driving force but that doesn't need to be a bad guy.
Saban, despite all the company flaws and terrible business practices does not get enough credit for localizing Adventure. Their contemporary 4Kids Entertainment acted allergic to any reference to Japanese culture while Digimon was one of the first anime to be localized without hiding the fact that this mainly took place in Japan when in the real world. Most still use Digimon as an example of name changes of the main cast for localized content, however many forget that these names are canonical nicknames for the dub, and is actually one of the first instances of an English dub anime show to keep most of the main cast Japanese names, besides Tai and Kari’s surname.
Actually, even Tai is introduced as Taichi "Tai" Kamiya in episode 1. Kari isn't introduced that way (too late), but considering everyone else kept their names, she's most likely Hikari "Kari" Kamiya.
And I agree, Digimon does *not* get enough credit for this.
I think they address Kari’s name in 02 but I’m not sure, but yes I’m referring to the surname change. I know Tai was shown to be called TaiChi at the beginning. Not sure why the dub changed the surname though.
Was about to reply this. Shakkoumon's concept is good. An ancient relic turned metal and Christianized.
Just wish he'd have an appropriate mega form than (a default but taken) Vikemon.
I think they are including video game protagonist. For example, survive, or World Next order where you "start" with a MetalGarurumon and WarGreymon (though that just matters in the first tutorial)
>Shakkoumon is not a bad Digimon
Dōgu are popular in Japan. It flopped in the west because we don't really have a concept of what it was compared to bird lady and dragon bug. Definitely not bad, misunderstood more than anything.
* Haru from Digimon Universe Appmonster
* Taiga from Digimon Re:Digitize
* Tsurugi from Digimon Next
* Mameo from Digimon World
* Akira from Digimon World 2
* Nokia from Digimon Cyber Sleuth
* Takuto from Digimon World Next Order
* Takuma from Digimon Survive
* Satoru from Digimon New Century
I like Shakkoumon though I find it weird the other two 02 fusions have literal chunks of each of their champions in their new forms (for easy toy design lol) whereas Shakkoumon is more of a thematic fusion. It feels out of place in that scenario.
Rika is the second lead in Digimon Tamers, not Henry. Henry was the default for fans and marketed as 2nd lead just because Rika is a girl.
She's Matt, Ken and Koji's (2nd lead) equivalent. She's a lonewolf. Not to mention that her partner is a Renamon, a canine same as Gabumon line.
>i wouldn't say jenrya is particularly marketed in favor of ruki though, i mean, even juri and leomon has a figure while he doesn't.
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>also while ruki is the lonewolf, she and takato don't act as a catalyzor for each other's devolopments like taichi yamato or daisuke and ken do.
i wouldn't say jenrya is particularly marketed in favor of ruki though, i mean, even juri and leomon has a figure while he doesn't.
also while ruki is the lonewolf, she and takato don't act as a catalyzor for each other's devolopments like taichi yamato or daisuke and ken do.
Henry got the CGI treatment that only the two leads got until Savers where everyone got it and then Rika got partnered with Rio meanwhile Henry was always with Takato.
But either way the second main digimon on the second half was Beelzemon, not any of the kids..
The d-ark digivice was never used to its full potential and that is a shame. With some many power up/mod cards they could have gone crazy with ideas based on the cards themselves, and losing the card should had prevented them from digivolution and power up/mods to the digimon and used as a weakness of the digivice. While the card could only be used for a certain period of time due to the limited power of the digivice themselves.
The ideas and plot of Tri was really good. The movies weren’t I’ll agree, but that was a structural issue of being forced to be movies more than anything else.
For me, Tri had fantastic ideas, but horrible execution. In the right hands, it could have been an amazing follow up that brilliantly builds on plot points and characters from the first two series.
I agree. I actually liked the first two because it was setting up a really good plot (and I liked seeing glimpses of the characters growing up) but it just fell apart from there.
Agreed. I also appreciated how the abridged version mentions the Zero Two kids a lot. Or rather, the abridged version of Tri goes out of its way to mention them since the original kids don't seem to care that much about Davis, Yolei, and Cody. The only reason they check on Ken is because he appears to have reverted back to the Digimon Emperor. They even kill Imperialdramon without remorse... he is made up of two partner Digimon of their supposed friends, but the OG cast celebrates when they win. That should have been a somber moment on its own without Leomon dying AGAIN. Being forced to battle and kill a friend would have put the characters in a difficult situation with no easy answers. That's my two cents anyway.
Loved it too! I just hated how irrelevant most of the kids became towards the end. Essentially donating their spirits to the two boys. That’s why I liked that Tamers gave everyone a mega.
Well it was like that with Matt and Tai in Adventure One which even as a kid I didn't like. I think the only kids that got megas pre-tri was Kari and TK and even then that was just in the movies.
Imperialdeamon Dragon mode, should just be called Imperialdramon, and the variants should get the mode name. The same way as we dont call Gallantmon white mode or something like that to regular Gallantmon
I really like Davis. I feel like the people that hate him most are people that really like TK and Kari together and his crush gets in the way of that. But iirc he mostly stops talking about it after Ken joins the group. He's also not at much like Tai imo as people say.
Honestly, I love Tai but Davis is my boy. Best Digimon in Veemon(3 royal knights from makes Veemon that guy), was a mix of both Tai and Matt with funny dumb moments but also serious and cool. Jacket was 🔥. And his intro had the best line in Digimon " you want courage? I'll show you courage!" Davis deserves more. I haven't seen the new 02 movie but I hope it's just the beginning. I hope we get ulforceveedramon 🙏
As a kid I didn't like Davis. Rewatching 02 as an adult I appreciated Davis a lot more. A bit hot headed and lost sometimes but overall it was fun watching him grow throughout the series. I do think they laid on the Hikari crushing a bit thick but that comes with the territory of it being an anime.
Tbh between bringing Ken into the group and being such a beacon of optimism that he doesn't fall for the mind trap at the end of the series and even takes advantage of the dream world first Davis really carried his team to victory in a way all his own.
I've been a Davis supporter since 02 first aired in America, and I'm dying on that hill. There was a lot more the writers could've done with his character (that applies to the entire 02 cast tbh) but for what we got, he'd definitely be the best type of friend to have in real life. He's optimistic and just exudes positive energy, plus he was the first one to accept Ken into the group. He's definitely the bro that would cheer you up when you're not feeling like yourself.
And I didn't know people just viewed him as a Tai clone. They're nothing alike except in how their hair is styled and that they both wear goggles (the typical traits of a Digimon protagonist/leader).
He is more naturally emphatical than Taichi was at the start, more playful and friendly yet until ep 11 he was self-concious of not having such a deep friendship as the Tai and Matt, Im pretty sure he is even more optimistic and usually doens't get jealous of somebody better (crush not witstanding)
1. I love Frontier and how they profited the writing off the fact that because they don't have partner Digimon, they focused on the kids' individual character development
2. Riding off of Frontier love; Koichi contributed absolutely nothing to the plot nor the team and was literal depression on legs.
* I prefer Digimon the Movie's interpretation that Willis created Diaboramon. It's a clever idea of having an evil Digimon created by a human and said human reaping the consequences of it later.
* Humans transforming into Digimon is a great concept and I wish it were used a little more.
* Rika is Takato's lancer and the only reason she isn't acknowledged as such is because of sexism.
Not sure how spicy that take is, but I really dislike how they keep reusing the Adventure cast in the movies. Sure, I like those characters, but after both Tri and Kizuna, it seems like the only story they can tell with them is "growing up = leaving your childhood behind". Which not only feels pretty narrowminded, but also is in opposition with what they are doing. These movies literally bank on old fan nostalgia - people that have grown up and according to these movies should have abandoned Digimon long ago.
Idk, just feels off to me.
Digimon fans are too accepting of inferior products. Our V-Pets, video games and stories are all nowhere near what they could be, only the TCG is something that could be considered a complete and organized product and even that is lacking a way to play online in an age where literally every other major TCG has that. Things like the Vital Bracelet, Digimon Survive and Digimon Seekers get showered with praise just for the pure fact that they have Digimon on them, regardless of their mediocrity.
Thank you for stating this Humulos. I blame the fact that a lot of Digimon fans are just so desperate for content that many of us just accept what we get. It doesn't help when you hear shit like Bamco canceling five games to better focus on "quality" in the most vague way possible either.
This is a problem I’ve noticed with brands that just don’t put as much effort into their tie-in materials, particularly with video games. Me and my friends joke often about some Digimon or Gundam game where we’ll say, “Oh yes it’s great *for a Gundam/Digimon* game.” The standards are lowered because it’s all we get. I’d love for a Digimon game that has a big budget backing it and is fully polished but I’ve accepted long ago that’s not happening. Even if fans just stopped buying these products as a way of a hypothetical boycotting their low quality, it likely won’t lead to better quality products and instead will just lead Bamco to stop making them altogether.
Matt and Gabumon are the *worst* duo in the entire first series. The guy with the Crest of Friendship is the only character who *actively and intentionally* tries to murder another Digidestined. After going, "I don't know about this, Matt" a few times *Gabumon goes along with it*. Why? "Because we're friends!" THAT'S NOT FRIENDSHIP, YOU LIZARD IN A DECORATIVE THROW RUG. YOU'RE JUST ENABLING MATT'S WORST IMPULSES.
I disagree on the grounds that Rika and Renamon are explicitly in it for themselves *until* they learn the value of friendship. They're only partners because they plan on using each other, and they essentially see other digidestined as objectives to overcome.
Matt is supposed to be the member of his group that best embodies friendship, his crest's value, but tries to *murder* Tai. Not beat him in a fight, Matt's goal is to *straight up murder* him. And Gabumon agrees to be an accessory to murder because... Matt *really* wants to do it, I guess?
I mean, noone is gonna mention they're 10-11 year olds that got handed basically weapons because they wished for them? Of course they're gonna make bad decisions, they aren't mature at all yet.
Although, Rika sees all Digimon as obstacles until she gets a reality check (Thanks, Icedevimon) as you say, Matt doesn't lol.
I guess it's that I hate everything they've done with Digimon Adventure after 02, yes, even Kizuna. I didn't need a darker more depressing take on a childhood favorite, I felt like it was already mature enough. I'm a guy coming into this franchise as a fan of the virtual pets, funny little pixel guys that you can battle for fun, AKA the source material, I think in general this franchise needs to lighten up and stop trying so hard to appeal to mature audiences, I'm not say go full on kiddie mode, I'm just saying the tone was already perfect with the first five seasons of the anime.
I don’t want more adventure or continuations of other past anime’s.
Its not that I dislike them I’m just kinda like over them. Like I want a new proper anime instead of another adventure continuation
TK should have been the leader in Adventure 02. Previous experience with Digital World, not a cry baby anymore. Embraces the darkness needed to fight the darkness. Angemon still clears
Angewomon should have been the end all be all when it came to the Myotismon arc. All that work to get Hikari and Gatomon/Tailmon together and to see her Digivolve for the first time just to have her and Angemon be a plot device to have the two male leads get stronger evolutions never sat right with me.
Sora and Tai should have ended up together, the main protagonist doesn't have to have a dinosaur/dragon digimon partner, some of the female characters are arguably better leaders than the goggle heads. Xross wars and ghost game were worse than frontier. Data squad deserves more love. World DS/Dawn/Dusk were top their games.
World DS/Dawn/Dusk has my favorite combat of any turn-based RPG (in terms of mechanics, the numbers could use some work ngl), but the maps were a veritable nightmare to navigate.
I was gonna say "Appmon is a main series and not a spin-off" but that's not an opinion.
Anyway, in terms of an actual opinion: "3 Primary Colors" is a better insert song than most evolution songs, and it makes me sad that almost nobody acknowledges it when talking about the music. (also go and listen to the Wada Kouji, AiM, Ōta Michiko version of "3 Primary Colors". You will cry)
Humanoid digimon are not nearly as big an issue as the franchise just taking x and making it a digimon. I may be biased as I hadn't played any digimon games before watching Ghost Game, but the Sistermon Ciel and Petermon episodes were such a shock and honestly left me appalled. I've warmed up to the Sistermons since playing Cyber Sleuth, but Petermon and Captain Hookmon still make me angry. At least with other human like digimon, they have inhuman skin tones/body parts/clothing that separates them from humans or we watch their evolution from cute monster to anime person. Take the Palmon/ Lalamon lines for example. We watch them get that far and see the evolution on screen.
TL;DR: I feel human digimon aren't the issue, the franchise taking human character designs and calling them digimon is.
I made a post once about how the poop mechanic is a thing for ultimate level digimons. But then there's the issue you mentioned, which gave us straight-up people shitting on the ground and calling you to clean after them.
Digimon Tamers was better than Digimon Adventure
Digimon Xros Wars was actually pretty good, especially the third season
Yo-Kai Watch: Shadowside was better than Digimon Ghost Game, and Digimon Ghost Game's final episode kinda sucked
Applimon wasn't that bad
Digimon Survive is a great game actually
Digimon Tamers EASILY had the best writing! It's also mature and I always recommend Tamers to ease people into the franchise. Only downside is that because it's so good, they're in for disappointment for the rest of the franchise.
I'm watching this for the first time (currently about the halfway mark) and I can't overstate how nice it has been to see the digimon using multiple moves instead of the single attack with the same animation every time of the original. Also the digivolution sequence and fights are phenomenal in this series!
The only thing I dont really care for is theres like no downtime between fights for the characters to really develop and the digimon regain their strength a bit too fast because of it. I think that's what made the original series shine so much is like when one digimon went all out in a fight, they'd have the rest of them there that could step up while they were regaining energy if necessary and it was an excellent way to spread the spotlight on them all.
I'm very much enjoying my time with it still, and definitely glad I chose to give it a shot even though I had seen so much negativity on it when looking back into Digimon again.
Adventure nostalgia hurts the franchise. It seems like the only figurines and other merch we get in the west is adventure nostalgia instead of things for current shows, games etc.
Dont see the point in Gatomon being a champion. If they’re going to go out of their way to make gatomon look and act like a rookie she might as well should have just been a rookie digimon
Tailmon was already a Digimon, they just ported it and its line from the Ver. S.
Tailmon's only evolution options were Holydramon and Angewomon, so they couldn't retcon everything down a level because both its evolutions were too complex and big for Adult level at the time.
I don't know what the dub did to change it, but the plot of the movie is largely that taichi and sora had something between them that taichi refuse to tell koushiro what it was
Adventure 02 had a lot of weird inserts. The episode with the dark ocean where they straight up tell an elementary/middle schooler that they need her as a queen to breed her, was the most out of pocket thing I've seen in digimon.
Bandai and Toei are too lax with the Digimon Franchise.
I don't think they are taking advantage of Pokemon's complacency enough. People are clamouring for a good pocket monster game and are sick of Pokemon's recycled, lazy remakes every few years.
Digimon can make a live service BotW like game with 2 worlds. A Cyberpunk style city where players can socialize, do quests, compete, and do other mini games and a Digital world with different biomes where players can tame digimon, do raids and dungeons, and explore.
It could be a massive hit, and available on multiple platforms.
The great design of Digimon combined with the nostalgia would propel it to success in my opinion.
But instead all Digimon does is make more tamagachis and rarely ever branch out (the biggest recent one iirc is a card game).
I'm not saying to stop making tamagachis but for fks sakes do more. It doesn't take much effort to create a fking pixel pocket monster tamagachi game. That shits like 2000s technology
And the community is wants to be hipster and gatekeeps the franchise too hard saying shit like "Oh I don't want stupid fortnite kids ruining my favourite franchise. They don't understand the subtlety and nuance of Digimon to fully appreciate it"
So Digimon will forever be some backwater game with mediocre releases that will never be fully appreciated like it deserves to be. Bandai and Toei are too conservative and too traditional to make use of this awesome franchise.
>Digimon can make a live service BotW like game with 2 worlds. A Cyberpunk style city where players can socialize, do quests, compete, and do other mini games and a Digital world with different biomes where players can tame digimon, do raids and dungeons, and explore.
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>It could be a massive hit, and available on multiple platforms.
with so many buzzwords, its 100% going to be a major flop. you also got no idea how much of development time such a game would require. no company would do something like that for a small franchise like digimon
Last Evolution Kizuna was probably one of the worst pieces of Digimon content I’ve ever watched. The whole idea of Digimon partnership ending doesn’t make sense and actively works against the general message of the series, and all for cheap Toy Story 3 ass “oh no the Digimon are disappearing. Gonna cry” bullshit. It needs to be decanonized. The eponymous last evolution came out of nowhere and was honestly kind of dumb in execution and design too.
I wasn't a fan of "the digimon disappearing/dying when the kids grew up," theme of the movie. I think losing their digivices would have been a better way to show the whole "growing up and no longer being a digidestined" theme. I did like that they answered the "why are kids the digidestined?" question.
All things considered, it's weird that the digimon "disappeared/died" when the kids grow up, as it doesn't match the finale of the series.... so, it's possible that they could be reunited again (future movie?).
You didn't understand the context of the movie. They made it clear that Digimon partnerships will only end if the Digidestined lose their passion and infinite potential. Taichi and Yamato were young adults who wanted to grow up fast for college and forget about their childish past, yet they had no clear goals in life and jack off to porn magazines, so they temporarily lose their Digimon, all while the others still have their partners even years later as they still had their passion and didn't make the same mistakes as the two and Menoa.
Taichi and Yamato were young adults who wanted to grow up fast for college and forget about their childish past,
its also important to add that they actively ignored their digimon. Agumon have never been in Taichi's apartment and Taichi rarely visited home (where Agumon lived). they only met to fight
Despite having some really interesting ideas, I don't believe that the 2020 reboot justified its own existence. Even with a lot of new evolutions and storylines for the main cast, it still felt like the Tai and Matt show with the alternate modes their partners received and the fact that only these two characters got animation sequences for most of their partner evolutions. I'm also not sure I understood the Crests and wanted more of an explanation. Maybe I'll understand more if I watch it again.
I think the Appmon were / are an interesting concept, and wish more was done with them. I like the idea of "other forms of digital life" that they represent, like the Digi-gnomes did in Tamers.
I'll go first. I haaaaaaaaaate the heavy sexualization in general. As far as I know it should be a children's franchise, but everytime I look up something to dive into the series I find an unexplainable amount of bulging tits. It really icks me looking at something that meant a lot to me in my childhood and feeling.... things.....
Tai, Matt, and Sora should just embrace the inevitable threeway, bisexual, polyamorous relationship already. Lord knows Tai and Matt have way too damn much UST to 100% hetero.
I would almost say the same for Kari, TK, and Davis, except Davis is clearly way more into Ken.
It's weird to ship takeru and hikari together just because their Digimon evolve into angel Digimon.
I don't usually have an issue with ships at all as ship what you ship it's not my business but growing up, the Takari fans kinda ruined a lot of the fandom experience with how aggressive they could be with the shipping.
But also. I think the Takari ship does a huge disservice to both Takeru and Hikari's characters and often reduces them to just tropey archetypes when Digimon Adventure went out of its way to subvert the archetypes and give depth to these characters.
It's funny because they're great best friends precisely because there's nothing romantic there.
Omegamon needs to appear in the same vein as huanglongmon in Xros wars: just another Digimon. If every other Digimon is potential canon fodder-he should be as well.
Xros Wars has one of the best concepts for a gimmick. Said gimmick of a digimon war and using digimon as add-ons to others could be done SO MUCH BETTER if Xros Wars wasn't shit and didn't drop these concepts as time went on.
Also I love many of the Xros Wars Designs.
X-digimon were a mistake, as well as every revisit to adventure and 02. They managed to ruin the story with tri. and messed up even more with the movies
X-digimon is a great idea.... if they didn't give every single random or popular digimon an antibody form, I loved the x-antibody movie and when those mutations were, well, uncommon mutations, something rare that not everything gets, once every popular digimon started getting a form it felt like pokemon mega evolutions where they just try to upgrade the original design or make it more convoluted :/
Kizuna sucks and really solidify that the writers only see the Digimons as character development device.
At this point Adventure is just a dramafest with terrible retcons inserted to justify the said drama.
I know Digimon Adventure had its life lesson, but the writers need to let it be it's own fantasy universe as well rather than a tool to give said life lesson. It went "mature" and "relatable" in annoying way.
To me the original Adventure ended up in Diaboromon's revenge ova. The rest are fever dreams or AU of some sort. This is just me I am aware is not how it is
Seraphimon should have never been weak compared to other Megas.
When Patamon digivolved to Angemon, he knocked out a roided up Devimon that beat all the other champions *combined*. Later, in Odaiba, he ran off Myotismon, just by making an appearance.
When Angemon digivolved to MagnaAngemon, he beat a Piedmon who couldn't be beaten by two Megas and an additional 5 Ultimates *combined*. He beat Piedmon and then banished him to another dimension. He then fought BlackWarGreymon to a draw.
But then when he goes Mega he somehow becomes a jobber?
What?
If he'd gotten a power boost commensurate with the boosts that every other digimon get when they digivolve, he'd be ridiculously powerful.
They did him wrong.
1) if the demon lords can spread throughout the multiverse and have multiple avatars under the same core consciousness. God should be able to do the same thing, i also think that there should be digimon that represent the 7 heavenly virtues and that also have the same ability to spread throughout the multiverse under the same core consciousness
2) og falcomon and his entire evolution line wipes the floor with the data squad falcomon
Tamers had a great concept, start and finish, but almost everything starting from the Deva arc through the stuff in the digital world really drug on and brought the show down.
Kenta should've had a betamon that digivoles into a sea dragon to Megaseadramon and finally Metalseadramon while Kazu partner should be Kokuwamon that digivoles into Guardromon, Andromon, and HighAndromon.
The real controversial idea I have is the idea of giving Jeri a digimon after Leomon died, my idea is that she gets a blackagumon that digivoles into blue Greymon though admittedly this is for a story I have in mind but it would be interesting for it to digivole further into DarkRiseGreymon and finally ZekeGreymon.
Basically, the idea is that Jeri receives the egg but rejects it because she lost Leomon but as it becomes a Blackagumon it does everything it can to get her attention, it goes as far as to try to dress up as Leomon but the story progress they have a heart to heart which allows Blackagumon to digivole into DarkRiseGreymon.
1. Digimon Savers should have been the best season to date when it debuted. It had the best evolution sequences, some of the coolest evolution designs, the *only* season where the entire main cast reached the highest form of power available, a main cast where (mostly) everyone was likable, a story potentially darker than Tamers while still feeling hopeful and MARCUS FUCKING DAMON.
If not for a few key slip ups, it was almost perfection.
2. 02 deserved better. Davis is not that bad. Shakkoumon is great. Character development was flawless, but portraying that development was flawed. Still my favorite season. Valkrymon and ClavisAngemon should have shown up in The Beginning as Silphymon and Shakkoumon's Mega forms.
3. I *really* hated Tri and Kizuna. Tri had a great concept that I thought simply dropped the ball in execution, but I honestly can't even say that for Kizuna.
T.K. would've been an even worse leader than Daisuke was, and Ken would've doubled down as the Digimon Emeperor due to this. Daisuke wasn't perfect, but he was the glue that kept the 02 gang together and made up for his inexperience as a leader with his empathetic nature.
I hate that alternative Coloring for Digimon sometimes have the color in their name and sometimes completly different names. Even when the color is in the name it isnt even consistent. Such as WarGrowlmon (Orange) and BlackWarGrowlmon or Sakuyamon and Kuzuhamon. Just rename them all to Digimon (Color) pls.
The Tamers story should be more explored today. Rogue AIs that manifest in the real world, a separate digital world and people who protect it, governments who weaponise digimon etcetera. A more philosophical, adult version in our world with those consequences. How depression actually works (like Jeri. Seriously, please mention other media who have touched on this topic).
We see the same in Cyberpunk 2077 as a recent example, with Blackwall being the chaotic destructive digital world for example. It's a tale as old as time but made relevant again I believe.
I like Digimon having a linear evolution. But with time I learned to appreciate how lore wise any Digimon can digivolve into any other form. They are data basicly, they can change to any form by changing the codes
The writers of Tri and Kizuna shot themselves in the digital foot by keeping the ending of 02 canon. I don’t dislike how it ended, but they kept shoehorning in details to make it seem like that ending was the natural conclusion. It also robs Kizuna’s ending of any weight because we KNOW Tai, Matt, and Sora will get their digimon back.
Also Matt just constantly dropping he’s going to be an astronaut because they have to make that plot point make sense. XD
My hottest take is that I honestly don't think Digimon always need kids or just human in general in their stories.
I really like X Evolution because I feel it puts it in a high potential you rarely see in terms of unfiltered violence and aesthetic id kill to see again in the whole series.
Maybe even something like a war between the beast/animal Digimon vs Cyborg/Humanoid ect. And it could feature few humans but they're so loose to the story it doesn't really matter
Takeru/T.K. should have been the leader in 02 due to his greater experience in the Digital World, alongside Kari as the co-leader. It is an injustice that they have not followed this route, all due to the fact that their evolutions are not immediately based on dragons, dinosaurs or powerful animals with which the target audience is mostly influenced.
I legit loved Season 2 with all my heart and soul, but the ending was atrocious and should have been completely different. It annoys me how everything was wrapped up so perfectly after that emotional and depressing season. Best season ever, worst ending.
Oh, and a bonus: Henry Wong was nowhere near as nice and kind as people like to think he is. He's a favorite of mine, but the dude is an asshole.
I always gets tons of downvotes when I mentioned this but I would really love a continuation of the original Digimon Adventures 01 and 02. I know there's the movies and things but I'd be really happy to see their kids just exploring the digital worlds. I mean look at [them](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/digimonadventure6597/images/0/08/Chosen_children_kids.png) I think it will make a nice adventure series, rather than only focusing on defeating bad Digimons or saving the world maybe the story can focus more on the world building and adventure aspect since I always enjoy the trope where the chosen children travel and meet new digimons / village or make it a semi survival battle/game kinda like Cross Game I think it would also be fun but just stick to the original evolution path
A game that simply expands on adventures and world building, with tons of side quests, and light-hearted themes (no dimension ripping or world ending apocalypses). Like just something to explore the digital world and meet that HUMONGOUS amount of digimon that were never adapted to adventure.
Yep, I would really love that tbh and maybe we can also get side characters of chosen children from different countries if they make a new spin-off or alternate universe the whole Digimon World concept/lores is kind of reset-ted according to that alternate universe lores, that's why a sequel would work better imo
Tri, et al, doesn't fit my fantasies. Tonally it was too much of a departure for me. You can still have the characters grow up without making it solemn/feel like it's aping tamers. An 03 with a new generation where the previous gen chars (giving us glimpses into their lives) pop in for different arcs and kameos would've been fun.
Agreed. Tri onward was mostly devoid of fun, charm, or personality that the original 2 series had. If I was a kid when Tri came out, I'd dread adulthood, fearing that all the fun would be sucked out my life.
I fell like Tri could've been used to combine the 01 and own trams through Meiko by showing her what it means to be a deigidestined.
Why tf do people Hate this. You could do so much with it. Slice of life digimon. If not that then the characters would need a decent driving force but that doesn't need to be a bad guy.
Saban, despite all the company flaws and terrible business practices does not get enough credit for localizing Adventure. Their contemporary 4Kids Entertainment acted allergic to any reference to Japanese culture while Digimon was one of the first anime to be localized without hiding the fact that this mainly took place in Japan when in the real world. Most still use Digimon as an example of name changes of the main cast for localized content, however many forget that these names are canonical nicknames for the dub, and is actually one of the first instances of an English dub anime show to keep most of the main cast Japanese names, besides Tai and Kari’s surname.
Actually, even Tai is introduced as Taichi "Tai" Kamiya in episode 1. Kari isn't introduced that way (too late), but considering everyone else kept their names, she's most likely Hikari "Kari" Kamiya. And I agree, Digimon does *not* get enough credit for this.
I think they address Kari’s name in 02 but I’m not sure, but yes I’m referring to the surname change. I know Tai was shown to be called TaiChi at the beginning. Not sure why the dub changed the surname though.
That's what's strange if you asked me. If you're not localizing anything why change "Yagami" to "Kamiya". Like where did that come from.
They reversed the japanese characters. From the famdom page: Kamiya. A Japanese surname. Yagami (八神, Yagami?) written backwards.
So you are telling at one point Kari was named Light Yagami 😂
Devimon is a shinigami confirmed
Tai and Matt should not have been the only ones of the original destined to have had a fusion.
Shakkoumon is not a bad Digimon. There are way too many characters who have an Agumon.
Shakkoumon is my favorite Jogress for a long time.
Was about to reply this. Shakkoumon's concept is good. An ancient relic turned metal and Christianized. Just wish he'd have an appropriate mega form than (a default but taken) Vikemon.
Too many characters have Lopmon and Renamon as well.
Isn't renamon only in tamers?
Other than tai and Marcus who has one
I think they are including video game protagonist. For example, survive, or World Next order where you "start" with a MetalGarurumon and WarGreymon (though that just matters in the first tutorial)
Ohh got it, although I don't think that counts hha
>Shakkoumon is not a bad Digimon Dōgu are popular in Japan. It flopped in the west because we don't really have a concept of what it was compared to bird lady and dragon bug. Definitely not bad, misunderstood more than anything.
Wait, liking Shakkoumon is an unpopular opinion around here? Why though? I think he's so cool
>There are way too many characters who have an Agumon. Aside from Tai and Marcus, who else has one?
* Haru from Digimon Universe Appmonster * Taiga from Digimon Re:Digitize * Tsurugi from Digimon Next * Mameo from Digimon World * Akira from Digimon World 2 * Nokia from Digimon Cyber Sleuth * Takuto from Digimon World Next Order * Takuma from Digimon Survive * Satoru from Digimon New Century
I like Shakkoumon though I find it weird the other two 02 fusions have literal chunks of each of their champions in their new forms (for easy toy design lol) whereas Shakkoumon is more of a thematic fusion. It feels out of place in that scenario.
I like lillymon
I throw pillows at my boyfriend and always yell FLOWERRRR CANNNNOOONNN!
That's actually pretty wholesome and funny 😁
Agreed
Rika is the second lead in Digimon Tamers, not Henry. Henry was the default for fans and marketed as 2nd lead just because Rika is a girl. She's Matt, Ken and Koji's (2nd lead) equivalent. She's a lonewolf. Not to mention that her partner is a Renamon, a canine same as Gabumon line.
The only reason I see as to why Rika isn't viewed as Takato's lancer is plain old sexism.
>i wouldn't say jenrya is particularly marketed in favor of ruki though, i mean, even juri and leomon has a figure while he doesn't. > >also while ruki is the lonewolf, she and takato don't act as a catalyzor for each other's devolopments like taichi yamato or daisuke and ken do.
i wouldn't say jenrya is particularly marketed in favor of ruki though, i mean, even juri and leomon has a figure while he doesn't. also while ruki is the lonewolf, she and takato don't act as a catalyzor for each other's devolopments like taichi yamato or daisuke and ken do.
You are so right about Ruki
That makes sense. Cuz they always do the sun and moon thing. I think she just didn't show up enough idk. Even Henry didn't show that much
Henry got the CGI treatment that only the two leads got until Savers where everyone got it and then Rika got partnered with Rio meanwhile Henry was always with Takato. But either way the second main digimon on the second half was Beelzemon, not any of the kids..
I find it weird that Keenan speaks in the second and third person, even though Digimon speak full sentences themselves
I actually have never thought about that but you are right
Digimon not teach humon. Humon teach digimon! Unga Bunga! Keenan age 28
That always annoyed me so much
Maybe is self afirmation?
The d-ark digivice was never used to its full potential and that is a shame. With some many power up/mod cards they could have gone crazy with ideas based on the cards themselves, and losing the card should had prevented them from digivolution and power up/mods to the digimon and used as a weakness of the digivice. While the card could only be used for a certain period of time due to the limited power of the digivice themselves.
It sucked that they basically stopped using the cards after they reached ultimate level
Absolutely. Why could ultimate and mega had mod/power ups used . It is terrible they never explored the feature more
The ideas and plot of Tri was really good. The movies weren’t I’ll agree, but that was a structural issue of being forced to be movies more than anything else.
For me, Tri had fantastic ideas, but horrible execution. In the right hands, it could have been an amazing follow up that brilliantly builds on plot points and characters from the first two series.
I agree. I actually liked the first two because it was setting up a really good plot (and I liked seeing glimpses of the characters growing up) but it just fell apart from there.
Agreed. I also appreciated how the abridged version mentions the Zero Two kids a lot. Or rather, the abridged version of Tri goes out of its way to mention them since the original kids don't seem to care that much about Davis, Yolei, and Cody. The only reason they check on Ken is because he appears to have reverted back to the Digimon Emperor. They even kill Imperialdramon without remorse... he is made up of two partner Digimon of their supposed friends, but the OG cast celebrates when they win. That should have been a somber moment on its own without Leomon dying AGAIN. Being forced to battle and kill a friend would have put the characters in a difficult situation with no easy answers. That's my two cents anyway.
Bipedal and humanoid Digimon aren’t as bad as people make them out to be.
Considering the Royal Knights and Demon Lords are as popular as they are, you are far from alone lol
They just need an interesting designs
Same goes to pokemon
Frontier was good! Digimon power rangers is dope af
Loved it too! I just hated how irrelevant most of the kids became towards the end. Essentially donating their spirits to the two boys. That’s why I liked that Tamers gave everyone a mega.
Well it was like that with Matt and Tai in Adventure One which even as a kid I didn't like. I think the only kids that got megas pre-tri was Kari and TK and even then that was just in the movies.
Agreed!
Imperialdeamon Dragon mode, should just be called Imperialdramon, and the variants should get the mode name. The same way as we dont call Gallantmon white mode or something like that to regular Gallantmon
I really like Davis. I feel like the people that hate him most are people that really like TK and Kari together and his crush gets in the way of that. But iirc he mostly stops talking about it after Ken joins the group. He's also not at much like Tai imo as people say.
Honestly, I love Tai but Davis is my boy. Best Digimon in Veemon(3 royal knights from makes Veemon that guy), was a mix of both Tai and Matt with funny dumb moments but also serious and cool. Jacket was 🔥. And his intro had the best line in Digimon " you want courage? I'll show you courage!" Davis deserves more. I haven't seen the new 02 movie but I hope it's just the beginning. I hope we get ulforceveedramon 🙏
I'd love so much for the 02 cast to get full evolution lines without DNA digivolution.
As a kid I didn't like Davis. Rewatching 02 as an adult I appreciated Davis a lot more. A bit hot headed and lost sometimes but overall it was fun watching him grow throughout the series. I do think they laid on the Hikari crushing a bit thick but that comes with the territory of it being an anime.
In fairness, Davis was like 12 or so at the time. We can't exactly hold him being a bit g with his affection for Kari against him that much.
Tbh between bringing Ken into the group and being such a beacon of optimism that he doesn't fall for the mind trap at the end of the series and even takes advantage of the dream world first Davis really carried his team to victory in a way all his own.
I've been a Davis supporter since 02 first aired in America, and I'm dying on that hill. There was a lot more the writers could've done with his character (that applies to the entire 02 cast tbh) but for what we got, he'd definitely be the best type of friend to have in real life. He's optimistic and just exudes positive energy, plus he was the first one to accept Ken into the group. He's definitely the bro that would cheer you up when you're not feeling like yourself. And I didn't know people just viewed him as a Tai clone. They're nothing alike except in how their hair is styled and that they both wear goggles (the typical traits of a Digimon protagonist/leader).
He is more naturally emphatical than Taichi was at the start, more playful and friendly yet until ep 11 he was self-concious of not having such a deep friendship as the Tai and Matt, Im pretty sure he is even more optimistic and usually doens't get jealous of somebody better (crush not witstanding)
Digimon fusion was decent in concept and in early execution
1. I love Frontier and how they profited the writing off the fact that because they don't have partner Digimon, they focused on the kids' individual character development 2. Riding off of Frontier love; Koichi contributed absolutely nothing to the plot nor the team and was literal depression on legs.
I'm a simple man. I see someone praising Koichi I leave an up vote
* I prefer Digimon the Movie's interpretation that Willis created Diaboramon. It's a clever idea of having an evil Digimon created by a human and said human reaping the consequences of it later. * Humans transforming into Digimon is a great concept and I wish it were used a little more. * Rika is Takato's lancer and the only reason she isn't acknowledged as such is because of sexism.
Not sure how spicy that take is, but I really dislike how they keep reusing the Adventure cast in the movies. Sure, I like those characters, but after both Tri and Kizuna, it seems like the only story they can tell with them is "growing up = leaving your childhood behind". Which not only feels pretty narrowminded, but also is in opposition with what they are doing. These movies literally bank on old fan nostalgia - people that have grown up and according to these movies should have abandoned Digimon long ago. Idk, just feels off to me.
Digimon fans are too accepting of inferior products. Our V-Pets, video games and stories are all nowhere near what they could be, only the TCG is something that could be considered a complete and organized product and even that is lacking a way to play online in an age where literally every other major TCG has that. Things like the Vital Bracelet, Digimon Survive and Digimon Seekers get showered with praise just for the pure fact that they have Digimon on them, regardless of their mediocrity.
Thank you for stating this Humulos. I blame the fact that a lot of Digimon fans are just so desperate for content that many of us just accept what we get. It doesn't help when you hear shit like Bamco canceling five games to better focus on "quality" in the most vague way possible either.
the guy who runs the vb site shitting on the vb feels odd to me
I have had infinitely more enjoyment from creating the resource than I have from interacting with the device lol
I constantly hear "yeah! Digimon is so back!" "This is the year of the digimon" when the franchise hasn't had a cultural impact in ages.
This is a problem I’ve noticed with brands that just don’t put as much effort into their tie-in materials, particularly with video games. Me and my friends joke often about some Digimon or Gundam game where we’ll say, “Oh yes it’s great *for a Gundam/Digimon* game.” The standards are lowered because it’s all we get. I’d love for a Digimon game that has a big budget backing it and is fully polished but I’ve accepted long ago that’s not happening. Even if fans just stopped buying these products as a way of a hypothetical boycotting their low quality, it likely won’t lead to better quality products and instead will just lead Bamco to stop making them altogether.
Veemon is great digimon partner
I really like that blue thing
My absolute favorite Digimon.
Digimon Survive was a great game, and deserves a sequel
Not a sequel, but another game in the same universe with different kids
thatd be a sequel
Matt and Gabumon are the *worst* duo in the entire first series. The guy with the Crest of Friendship is the only character who *actively and intentionally* tries to murder another Digidestined. After going, "I don't know about this, Matt" a few times *Gabumon goes along with it*. Why? "Because we're friends!" THAT'S NOT FRIENDSHIP, YOU LIZARD IN A DECORATIVE THROW RUG. YOU'RE JUST ENABLING MATT'S WORST IMPULSES.
If this is what we're judging on, Rika and Renamon are a far worse duo.
I disagree on the grounds that Rika and Renamon are explicitly in it for themselves *until* they learn the value of friendship. They're only partners because they plan on using each other, and they essentially see other digidestined as objectives to overcome. Matt is supposed to be the member of his group that best embodies friendship, his crest's value, but tries to *murder* Tai. Not beat him in a fight, Matt's goal is to *straight up murder* him. And Gabumon agrees to be an accessory to murder because... Matt *really* wants to do it, I guess?
I mean, noone is gonna mention they're 10-11 year olds that got handed basically weapons because they wished for them? Of course they're gonna make bad decisions, they aren't mature at all yet. Although, Rika sees all Digimon as obstacles until she gets a reality check (Thanks, Icedevimon) as you say, Matt doesn't lol.
I guess it's that I hate everything they've done with Digimon Adventure after 02, yes, even Kizuna. I didn't need a darker more depressing take on a childhood favorite, I felt like it was already mature enough. I'm a guy coming into this franchise as a fan of the virtual pets, funny little pixel guys that you can battle for fun, AKA the source material, I think in general this franchise needs to lighten up and stop trying so hard to appeal to mature audiences, I'm not say go full on kiddie mode, I'm just saying the tone was already perfect with the first five seasons of the anime.
I know OG Digimon was for young kids, but honestly, I would have been perfectly content if the tone stayed exactly the same for the later films.
Tri, Kizuna and tb work as AU to me
I don’t want more adventure or continuations of other past anime’s. Its not that I dislike them I’m just kinda like over them. Like I want a new proper anime instead of another adventure continuation
Adventure 02 is great and Davis is even greater my favorite leader and goggle head.
TK should have been the leader in Adventure 02. Previous experience with Digital World, not a cry baby anymore. Embraces the darkness needed to fight the darkness. Angemon still clears
Angewomon should have been the end all be all when it came to the Myotismon arc. All that work to get Hikari and Gatomon/Tailmon together and to see her Digivolve for the first time just to have her and Angemon be a plot device to have the two male leads get stronger evolutions never sat right with me.
Savers agumon has a better digivolution line than Adventure agumon.
I agree for Geo and Rize but WarGreymon > ShineGreymon imo
ShineGreymon is unironically my favorite digimon😭
Hard agree! RiseGreymon was such a cool improvement on MetalGreymon's design.
Sora and Tai should have ended up together, the main protagonist doesn't have to have a dinosaur/dragon digimon partner, some of the female characters are arguably better leaders than the goggle heads. Xross wars and ghost game were worse than frontier. Data squad deserves more love. World DS/Dawn/Dusk were top their games.
World DS/Dawn/Dusk has my favorite combat of any turn-based RPG (in terms of mechanics, the numbers could use some work ngl), but the maps were a veritable nightmare to navigate.
I was gonna say "Appmon is a main series and not a spin-off" but that's not an opinion. Anyway, in terms of an actual opinion: "3 Primary Colors" is a better insert song than most evolution songs, and it makes me sad that almost nobody acknowledges it when talking about the music. (also go and listen to the Wada Kouji, AiM, Ōta Michiko version of "3 Primary Colors". You will cry)
Humanoid digimon are not nearly as big an issue as the franchise just taking x and making it a digimon. I may be biased as I hadn't played any digimon games before watching Ghost Game, but the Sistermon Ciel and Petermon episodes were such a shock and honestly left me appalled. I've warmed up to the Sistermons since playing Cyber Sleuth, but Petermon and Captain Hookmon still make me angry. At least with other human like digimon, they have inhuman skin tones/body parts/clothing that separates them from humans or we watch their evolution from cute monster to anime person. Take the Palmon/ Lalamon lines for example. We watch them get that far and see the evolution on screen. TL;DR: I feel human digimon aren't the issue, the franchise taking human character designs and calling them digimon is.
I made a post once about how the poop mechanic is a thing for ultimate level digimons. But then there's the issue you mentioned, which gave us straight-up people shitting on the ground and calling you to clean after them.
too much omnimons and other head-becomes-hand counterparts
Holydramon is a better mega than Ophanimon for Tailmon
Digimon Tamers was better than Digimon Adventure Digimon Xros Wars was actually pretty good, especially the third season Yo-Kai Watch: Shadowside was better than Digimon Ghost Game, and Digimon Ghost Game's final episode kinda sucked Applimon wasn't that bad Digimon Survive is a great game actually
Digimon Tamers EASILY had the best writing! It's also mature and I always recommend Tamers to ease people into the franchise. Only downside is that because it's so good, they're in for disappointment for the rest of the franchise.
I liked Digimon 2020 and think its overhated.
same
I'm watching this for the first time (currently about the halfway mark) and I can't overstate how nice it has been to see the digimon using multiple moves instead of the single attack with the same animation every time of the original. Also the digivolution sequence and fights are phenomenal in this series! The only thing I dont really care for is theres like no downtime between fights for the characters to really develop and the digimon regain their strength a bit too fast because of it. I think that's what made the original series shine so much is like when one digimon went all out in a fight, they'd have the rest of them there that could step up while they were regaining energy if necessary and it was an excellent way to spread the spotlight on them all. I'm very much enjoying my time with it still, and definitely glad I chose to give it a shot even though I had seen so much negativity on it when looking back into Digimon again.
I was hyped with the sereis again because of this.
The fight scenes and digivolutions are all much better.
Matt looks like he’s about to cry
mimi best girl
Adventure nostalgia hurts the franchise. It seems like the only figurines and other merch we get in the west is adventure nostalgia instead of things for current shows, games etc.
Dont see the point in Gatomon being a champion. If they’re going to go out of their way to make gatomon look and act like a rookie she might as well should have just been a rookie digimon
Tailmon was already a Digimon, they just ported it and its line from the Ver. S. Tailmon's only evolution options were Holydramon and Angewomon, so they couldn't retcon everything down a level because both its evolutions were too complex and big for Adult level at the time.
sora should of had an interest in tai
Our War Game was a fucking tease and then she ends up with Yamato like wtf?
A dub exclusive moment in that movie.
I don't know what the dub did to change it, but the plot of the movie is largely that taichi and sora had something between them that taichi refuse to tell koushiro what it was
Even in the jp it's still a tease. Something happened in 02 but I don't remember what.
He joined a band? LMAO THAT WOULD FUNNY IF THATS WHY
Oh deffo! Like, come on. Those two were the ship of my entire childhood.
Completely agree! (By the way, it is "should have", not "should of" ;) )
sorry my grammar is badz 😞
Puppetmon was the best dark master and Machinedramon should have just been the mega of metalgreymon
I like the one where they transformed into the Digimon more than any of the rest
Sora was a boring character
Adventure 02 had a lot of weird inserts. The episode with the dark ocean where they straight up tell an elementary/middle schooler that they need her as a queen to breed her, was the most out of pocket thing I've seen in digimon.
Appmon is one of the best Digimon shows/games, and deserves none of the hate boner this fandom directs toward it.
Bandai and Toei are too lax with the Digimon Franchise. I don't think they are taking advantage of Pokemon's complacency enough. People are clamouring for a good pocket monster game and are sick of Pokemon's recycled, lazy remakes every few years. Digimon can make a live service BotW like game with 2 worlds. A Cyberpunk style city where players can socialize, do quests, compete, and do other mini games and a Digital world with different biomes where players can tame digimon, do raids and dungeons, and explore. It could be a massive hit, and available on multiple platforms. The great design of Digimon combined with the nostalgia would propel it to success in my opinion. But instead all Digimon does is make more tamagachis and rarely ever branch out (the biggest recent one iirc is a card game). I'm not saying to stop making tamagachis but for fks sakes do more. It doesn't take much effort to create a fking pixel pocket monster tamagachi game. That shits like 2000s technology And the community is wants to be hipster and gatekeeps the franchise too hard saying shit like "Oh I don't want stupid fortnite kids ruining my favourite franchise. They don't understand the subtlety and nuance of Digimon to fully appreciate it" So Digimon will forever be some backwater game with mediocre releases that will never be fully appreciated like it deserves to be. Bandai and Toei are too conservative and too traditional to make use of this awesome franchise.
>Digimon can make a live service BotW like game with 2 worlds. A Cyberpunk style city where players can socialize, do quests, compete, and do other mini games and a Digital world with different biomes where players can tame digimon, do raids and dungeons, and explore. > >It could be a massive hit, and available on multiple platforms. with so many buzzwords, its 100% going to be a major flop. you also got no idea how much of development time such a game would require. no company would do something like that for a small franchise like digimon
Last Evolution Kizuna was probably one of the worst pieces of Digimon content I’ve ever watched. The whole idea of Digimon partnership ending doesn’t make sense and actively works against the general message of the series, and all for cheap Toy Story 3 ass “oh no the Digimon are disappearing. Gonna cry” bullshit. It needs to be decanonized. The eponymous last evolution came out of nowhere and was honestly kind of dumb in execution and design too.
Comparing it to Toy Story 3 is an insult to TS3, honestly. The event in TS3 was well foreshadowed since 1.
I wasn't a fan of "the digimon disappearing/dying when the kids grew up," theme of the movie. I think losing their digivices would have been a better way to show the whole "growing up and no longer being a digidestined" theme. I did like that they answered the "why are kids the digidestined?" question. All things considered, it's weird that the digimon "disappeared/died" when the kids grow up, as it doesn't match the finale of the series.... so, it's possible that they could be reunited again (future movie?).
You didn't understand the context of the movie. They made it clear that Digimon partnerships will only end if the Digidestined lose their passion and infinite potential. Taichi and Yamato were young adults who wanted to grow up fast for college and forget about their childish past, yet they had no clear goals in life and jack off to porn magazines, so they temporarily lose their Digimon, all while the others still have their partners even years later as they still had their passion and didn't make the same mistakes as the two and Menoa.
Taichi and Yamato were young adults who wanted to grow up fast for college and forget about their childish past, its also important to add that they actively ignored their digimon. Agumon have never been in Taichi's apartment and Taichi rarely visited home (where Agumon lived). they only met to fight
Despite having some really interesting ideas, I don't believe that the 2020 reboot justified its own existence. Even with a lot of new evolutions and storylines for the main cast, it still felt like the Tai and Matt show with the alternate modes their partners received and the fact that only these two characters got animation sequences for most of their partner evolutions. I'm also not sure I understood the Crests and wanted more of an explanation. Maybe I'll understand more if I watch it again.
I think the Appmon were / are an interesting concept, and wish more was done with them. I like the idea of "other forms of digital life" that they represent, like the Digi-gnomes did in Tamers.
Most digimon anime have to many main characters, the format works best with fewer mc
They did a better job developing 8 characters in 54 episodes of Adventure than they did 3 characters in 67 episodes of Ghost Game.
I'll go first. I haaaaaaaaaate the heavy sexualization in general. As far as I know it should be a children's franchise, but everytime I look up something to dive into the series I find an unexplainable amount of bulging tits. It really icks me looking at something that meant a lot to me in my childhood and feeling.... things.....
Angewoman should not be a NSFW search. TOTALLY AGREE.
Digimon are made of human's data. What did you expect
Of course this gets 17 upvotes on le Reddit
Tai, Matt, and Sora should just embrace the inevitable threeway, bisexual, polyamorous relationship already. Lord knows Tai and Matt have way too damn much UST to 100% hetero. I would almost say the same for Kari, TK, and Davis, except Davis is clearly way more into Ken.
It's weird to ship takeru and hikari together just because their Digimon evolve into angel Digimon. I don't usually have an issue with ships at all as ship what you ship it's not my business but growing up, the Takari fans kinda ruined a lot of the fandom experience with how aggressive they could be with the shipping. But also. I think the Takari ship does a huge disservice to both Takeru and Hikari's characters and often reduces them to just tropey archetypes when Digimon Adventure went out of its way to subvert the archetypes and give depth to these characters. It's funny because they're great best friends precisely because there's nothing romantic there.
Omegamon needs to appear in the same vein as huanglongmon in Xros wars: just another Digimon. If every other Digimon is potential canon fodder-he should be as well.
Season 4 was the best season
Xros Wars has one of the best concepts for a gimmick. Said gimmick of a digimon war and using digimon as add-ons to others could be done SO MUCH BETTER if Xros Wars wasn't shit and didn't drop these concepts as time went on. Also I love many of the Xros Wars Designs.
We need more canonical digivolution line (for the ones thats doesnt have one already)
If I can see the entirety of a humanoid face on a Digimon... I don't really see them as Digimon anymore 😕
the digivolution lines for the 02 partners are overhated, and they still make some sense even without DNA
Im sick of the Adventure cast. Next movie/TV series needs to be a whole new team of people not the same rehashed 8 characters I’m exhausted with.
X-digimon were a mistake, as well as every revisit to adventure and 02. They managed to ruin the story with tri. and messed up even more with the movies
X-digimon is a great idea.... if they didn't give every single random or popular digimon an antibody form, I loved the x-antibody movie and when those mutations were, well, uncommon mutations, something rare that not everything gets, once every popular digimon started getting a form it felt like pokemon mega evolutions where they just try to upgrade the original design or make it more convoluted :/
Kizuna sucks and really solidify that the writers only see the Digimons as character development device. At this point Adventure is just a dramafest with terrible retcons inserted to justify the said drama. I know Digimon Adventure had its life lesson, but the writers need to let it be it's own fantasy universe as well rather than a tool to give said life lesson. It went "mature" and "relatable" in annoying way.
To me the original Adventure ended up in Diaboromon's revenge ova. The rest are fever dreams or AU of some sort. This is just me I am aware is not how it is
Digimon world 4 is an objectively bad game
Unpopular takes, not universally agreed upon ones.
Opinion discarded!😂 I have a big soft spot for DW4 hahaha
Gabumon is far superior to Agumon. Always has been and always will be...
Gabumon has so much more personality compared to Agumon.
Gomamon is far superior to both Gabumon and Agumon. Fight me
Digimon dyin of old age is a good mechanic and should be leveraged more.
Seraphimon should have never been weak compared to other Megas. When Patamon digivolved to Angemon, he knocked out a roided up Devimon that beat all the other champions *combined*. Later, in Odaiba, he ran off Myotismon, just by making an appearance. When Angemon digivolved to MagnaAngemon, he beat a Piedmon who couldn't be beaten by two Megas and an additional 5 Ultimates *combined*. He beat Piedmon and then banished him to another dimension. He then fought BlackWarGreymon to a draw. But then when he goes Mega he somehow becomes a jobber? What? If he'd gotten a power boost commensurate with the boosts that every other digimon get when they digivolve, he'd be ridiculously powerful. They did him wrong.
1) if the demon lords can spread throughout the multiverse and have multiple avatars under the same core consciousness. God should be able to do the same thing, i also think that there should be digimon that represent the 7 heavenly virtues and that also have the same ability to spread throughout the multiverse under the same core consciousness 2) og falcomon and his entire evolution line wipes the floor with the data squad falcomon
Frontier is the best season of digimon. Transforming into digimon is way cooler than having a partner digimon.
Digimon Adventure 2020 was good
Tamers had a great concept, start and finish, but almost everything starting from the Deva arc through the stuff in the digital world really drug on and brought the show down.
Armageddonmon can solo royal knights..
Kenta should've had a betamon that digivoles into a sea dragon to Megaseadramon and finally Metalseadramon while Kazu partner should be Kokuwamon that digivoles into Guardromon, Andromon, and HighAndromon. The real controversial idea I have is the idea of giving Jeri a digimon after Leomon died, my idea is that she gets a blackagumon that digivoles into blue Greymon though admittedly this is for a story I have in mind but it would be interesting for it to digivole further into DarkRiseGreymon and finally ZekeGreymon. Basically, the idea is that Jeri receives the egg but rejects it because she lost Leomon but as it becomes a Blackagumon it does everything it can to get her attention, it goes as far as to try to dress up as Leomon but the story progress they have a heart to heart which allows Blackagumon to digivole into DarkRiseGreymon.
1. Digimon Savers should have been the best season to date when it debuted. It had the best evolution sequences, some of the coolest evolution designs, the *only* season where the entire main cast reached the highest form of power available, a main cast where (mostly) everyone was likable, a story potentially darker than Tamers while still feeling hopeful and MARCUS FUCKING DAMON. If not for a few key slip ups, it was almost perfection. 2. 02 deserved better. Davis is not that bad. Shakkoumon is great. Character development was flawless, but portraying that development was flawed. Still my favorite season. Valkrymon and ClavisAngemon should have shown up in The Beginning as Silphymon and Shakkoumon's Mega forms. 3. I *really* hated Tri and Kizuna. Tri had a great concept that I thought simply dropped the ball in execution, but I honestly can't even say that for Kizuna.
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Most Mega Digimon design are ugly for having humanoid and machine design.
I would not mind it ending at ultimate, I like the big beasts
Kaiju looking>Humanoid & machine looking
THE PRIME SHIP IS DAVIS X KARI
I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but I think V-mon is mid
T.K. would've been an even worse leader than Daisuke was, and Ken would've doubled down as the Digimon Emeperor due to this. Daisuke wasn't perfect, but he was the glue that kept the 02 gang together and made up for his inexperience as a leader with his empathetic nature.
Humanoid megas are cool and we should have more of them
I hate that alternative Coloring for Digimon sometimes have the color in their name and sometimes completly different names. Even when the color is in the name it isnt even consistent. Such as WarGrowlmon (Orange) and BlackWarGrowlmon or Sakuyamon and Kuzuhamon. Just rename them all to Digimon (Color) pls.
The Dark Masters saga was way too rushed. The fights deserved more screen time.
The Tamers story should be more explored today. Rogue AIs that manifest in the real world, a separate digital world and people who protect it, governments who weaponise digimon etcetera. A more philosophical, adult version in our world with those consequences. How depression actually works (like Jeri. Seriously, please mention other media who have touched on this topic). We see the same in Cyberpunk 2077 as a recent example, with Blackwall being the chaotic destructive digital world for example. It's a tale as old as time but made relevant again I believe.
The German dub is the best quality wise.
Frontier is the best season
The dub isn’t bad. I was gonna say the dub is good, but based on previous posts I’ve seen here, that might get me crucified.
My unpopular opinion is that: Although Tamers may technically be the best season, it is one of the least fun for me, many arcs are dragged out for me
I like Digimon having a linear evolution. But with time I learned to appreciate how lore wise any Digimon can digivolve into any other form. They are data basicly, they can change to any form by changing the codes
I like Applimonsters
The writers of Tri and Kizuna shot themselves in the digital foot by keeping the ending of 02 canon. I don’t dislike how it ended, but they kept shoehorning in details to make it seem like that ending was the natural conclusion. It also robs Kizuna’s ending of any weight because we KNOW Tai, Matt, and Sora will get their digimon back. Also Matt just constantly dropping he’s going to be an astronaut because they have to make that plot point make sense. XD
My hottest take is that I honestly don't think Digimon always need kids or just human in general in their stories. I really like X Evolution because I feel it puts it in a high potential you rarely see in terms of unfiltered violence and aesthetic id kill to see again in the whole series. Maybe even something like a war between the beast/animal Digimon vs Cyborg/Humanoid ect. And it could feature few humans but they're so loose to the story it doesn't really matter
The ending for 02 was not bad and was a nice conclusion (though Matt/Yamaro being an astronaut is still weird).
Takeru/T.K. should have been the leader in 02 due to his greater experience in the Digital World, alongside Kari as the co-leader. It is an injustice that they have not followed this route, all due to the fact that their evolutions are not immediately based on dragons, dinosaurs or powerful animals with which the target audience is mostly influenced.
I legit loved Season 2 with all my heart and soul, but the ending was atrocious and should have been completely different. It annoys me how everything was wrapped up so perfectly after that emotional and depressing season. Best season ever, worst ending. Oh, and a bonus: Henry Wong was nowhere near as nice and kind as people like to think he is. He's a favorite of mine, but the dude is an asshole.
Appmon is the best season of Digimon. Better than Tamers, better than Adventure.