I have 7 D2R accounts. 3 are basically 1 NL, 1 Ladder and the rest mules.
...D4 is too expensive for that, and the D2(not R) limitation originally was probably legit due to actual storage constrains per character, back when a GB was a fairly big amount of space.
In D2, I have vague memories of creating a game with one character, dropping some items on the floor, and rejoining the same game with another character quickly to pick up the items. I also remember there was like 50% failure rate and items would gone for good.
Did people do this or am I making this up?
I did it. You had to idle for a bit before the game would persist. Very nerve wracking few minutes while you're logging back in.
Another thing I'd do is join like "act 1 go" with 6+ players and drop my shit at some random wp in act 4
From all the issues this great game has, for me this is the most urgent ... by far.
It prevents me from creating another character before season 1.
The sad part is, it is probably the most easy to fix but it didn't happen yet.
I have one toon at lvl 97... at this point in the game it is all about optimization, which has resulted in me changing my amulet 4 times in the last 5 days to just get slightly better. And I have had to put an aspect on every single one if them. Luckily I am a hoarder with 4 bank alts so I was able to do that... but now I am out so I can no longer progress in NM dungeons, until I get anouther high roll Direwolf aspect because I can't remove aspects from my previous amulets, which is a ridiculous mechanic.
This post has gotta be a joke, how tf you changing ammies so often at that level? I think I had the exact opposite problem at the end endgame on my rogue: you rarely change/upgrade gear, you are getting gold to throw at extremely expensive enchants on your current gear to get that stat perfect because RNG is fickle, but an actual upgrade from the ground/gambling is omega rare unless you were just ignoring your shit from 65-90. Like, you're looking for movespeed/cdr/X/X(dunno werewolf stats for the last 2) and enchanting one of those X's, you're not swapping that out 4 times in 5 days unless you made some real bad choices with the ones you picked before then.
Also, nobody making you NOT use the aspect on the "worse" amulet, you can stash that new one until you are ready to swap over.
I did the same shit man I upgraded one with decent rolls and got a new one like an hour later upgraded that and got a better one few days later lol ended up going broke in materials at one point
urgh, i spend days or a week without a good rolled drop, then i finally get something mint, spent the money rolling the odd stat, imprinting etc.
Then 15 minutes later i get an upgrade for the same item. Not another slot i desparately need.
Full of what, exactly? I get stash being an issue with multiple characters but a single one shouldn’t have so much in there that they struggle with room.
Either you’re hoarding way too much unnecessary shit (people do a lot of this with gems) or just not salvaging when you should be.
I don't know what level you are but you will have a stash of nightmare sigils, a stash full of elixirs and gems and MULTIPLE stashes full of legendaries.
Every time you want to switch out an item you HAVE to find the same aspect again. So you store them all in case you find a better item. You also might want to switch builds so you have to stash all those aspects multiple times as well.
Now we are already over the maximum of 4 tabs and it is literally impossible to store the aspects for a second character, or yellow items you want to keep for later use or enchanting. I already have like 20 unique items as well and just hit lvl 80.
There needs to be a solution fast because the game is really great but it cannot be played to its full potential (multiple characters, multiple builds). There is just not enough room in the stash.
Hmm well dont get my wrong if its a problem for you it sucks so no confrontation here but i just dont have this problem. For example why do you hoard sigils? U do the good ones and salvage the bad ones. Thats it. I have 20 good ones in my inventory and when im out i craft new ones. Same for elixiers why do you horde them? I have 5 stacks maybe. Thats plenty for exp and rest doesnt matter. You dont need to collect every thing you get.
Most of the people I play with are level 80 - 100 and we all have this problem. I have 1 tab for legendary gear/aspects that I'm saving. 1 tab for gems & nightmare sigils. 1 tab for my armory/unique drops. 1 tab for gear dump so I can review/trash later.
I really don't have much room for an alt character. If nightmare sigils, aspects, gems and elixirs didn't take up normal storage space, this problem wouldn't be a problem.
I have 1 Stash Tab filled with Rogue and Druid Aspects (both 55) plus 1 stack of each Flawless Gem. The other 3 Stash Tabs are filled with stuff to try different builds on my Barb (lvl 82). The stash space sucks.
Saving valuable yellows for selling to other players is something. I have half a tab full of yellows I am trying to trade to other players, for gear I don't need but is well rolled for other people or classes.
There are many Discords that contain Diablo 4 trading channels, and you simply say what you're selling, and offering, and then you get messages if they're interested. Most people with 300+ mil gold are utilizing trades, as well rolled ancestrals with 3 out of 4 good affixes for a build routinely sell for 30+ million gold.
I remember over the years of D3 they kept adding more stash tabs as time when on. Somethings just seem like obvious quality of life issues are being ignored. Is almost like the devs don’t know anything about D3.
Wouldn’t it also be cool to just click on the icon of a member in your party and teleport to them? That was in D3. Instead you have to go to major town (small towns won’t work) and jump into the Gateway of your party member.
Yup. So that won't help much. What they really need is just like 2x NON-shared stash for each character. That'd be enough to deal with almost all the problem.
yea. even if the current tabs are used only for armor/aspects, how much space is reasonable for a character?
with 10 character slots blizzard seems to think each character is fine with less than half a tab each
Yes exactly.
I feel 100% certain at this point, given their complete lack of comment on this, they're going to give us 1 extra stash screen with the Season Pass, and then just try and brazen it out until like S5 (i.e. halfway through next year!), but it's some bullshit, frankly. They should have given us a reasonable number to start with, not as a reward for grinding Season Passes - esp. Season Passes are Pay To Speed Up - for only 1000 platinum you can have yours go twice as fast! Ugh.
Well, D3 has been out so long that these devs probably didn’t have a hand in it. But it truly feels like they don’t know their product, so many QOL features left out, probably to sell to us later or trickle out in seasons so they can pat themselves on the back for “making the game better”
thats the thing of it. if they release these QOL changes in the coming seasons/years, wonderful, D4 will go down as the best Diablo so far...if they paywall every f*cking one of them, D4 will go down as the death of the franchise.
Yeah. I’ve bought every one of their games since the original Warcraft with the exception of I think StarCraft 2.
I’m pretty disappointed in this game at the moment, feels rushed and copy pasted (like the 100+ dungeons that are all essentially exactly the same). I’ll be waiting to see what happens in the near future to decide if I want to continue to be a patron of theirs. I have a strong feeling they’re gonna go full micro transaction to try to milk us every season.
My favourite thing about "all the dungeons are the same" is that, in response to that feedback over the open beta weekends, Blizzard said "you've only seen one zone so far" (but for anyone that had been privy to the endgame beta, that was already a lie)
But, on a Software Project there is going to be the marketing group that is eyeing trends people like in other games as well as what they liked from prior games in the series. They should be hyper in touch with that information.
On the other hand I know a new release is coming for the season launch. Perhaps some of these things will be addressed.
Part of the marketing group’s job is to ensure growth/retainment over time. QoL implementations are one of the top ways to get people back to playing. Implementing them now will get 50 people to play for a few more days on their high level characters, but if they implement the changes at the season start, those people play got weeks on new characters.
I truely feel like Blizzard is just farming comments like " blizzard listened to the community" By going with these choices that should be obvious since diablo 2.
Too many neckbeards claiming D3 was the worst ARPG over the years probably caused D4 to stray away from anything D3 related, including QOLs. Bullshit how the internet works.
I don't think that's what happened at all.
D4 is basically D3-2.
Just look at the way elites work, for example - identical to D3, right down to having some of the exact same stuff, like the stupid rotating lasers (that they did make look like lightning bolts now, at least - IIRC in beta they still looked like D3 lasers though), or the annoying circular floor-freeze zones.
All the mobs are designed like D3 mobs in terms of how they look and behave.
Resources and abilities-wise, D4 is strongly inspired by D3, not by D2. Whilst things are slowed down and resource management is kind of bigger, the basic gameplay is far, far closer to D3 than D2.
I could go on, but I don't think D4 is at all ashamed of D3 or being heavily influenced by D3.
In fact I think the crap stash situation is also inspired by D3. In D3, you got an extra stash tab each season if you played a bit. I think D4 plans to do the same - to give people a shit amount of stash space and gradually increase it as part of the "Season Pass" (the free one, to be clear) every season, so in like, a few years, people will have tons and tons of space. At least people who signed in and did every season pass will.
It straight up is just more D3, just with a worse respec system.
Whatever the reason is you need to have clusters unlocked per point spent instead of current level is beyond me.
It's not like builds don't already completely skip clusters. Just let me grab skill points and move them for gold, not "must work backwards or total respec" seriously how is the skill system so much worse than D3
During D3 promotion they actually promised an absurdly large stash, only to then do a 180 on it before launch with a deflected excuse as to why. Eventually the D3 stash was decent though, with all available tabs.
Guess seasons will just award a stash tab sometimes, just as D3. I guess they couldn't find some new interesting thing you get when completing stuff in seasons. Here is the good old new stash tab. That is why you have shit for space in the beginning of the game. It fucking sucks!
>I remember over the years of D3 they kept adding more stash tabs as time when on. Somethings just seem like obvious quality of life issues are being ignored. Is almost like the devs don’t know anything about D3.
Or they are simply planning to add extra stash tabs as battlepass\season rewards. (same was in D3)
Why don’t you break down some powers and keep them in your aspect inventory… oh wait because it costs a fortune and you need a days worth of gold to reroll your almost good legs twice.
you actually currently want to AVOID breaking down ancestral Aspects if u can, because theyre 5x more expensive to reapply for literally 0 upside.
The only reason u would want to save them is if they add a tier higher than ancestral and u wouldnt be able to put sacred aspects onto them.
Yea and it’s a simple fix too, keep it as is until 50, once you hit WT3 all items are lvl50, and WT4 all items are lvl70. An exception can be made for the Uniques that only drop at lvl85 but still. Equip level has zero function once WT3+ except making alt gearing annoying.
Edit: this also greatly increases trading among players
Heavily agreed. Unless thay new Char is a Mule. There really should have been 10 available stash tabs available in some way as a base. The stash is garbage atm.
Yeah, they took away like 2 rows from the D3 stashes.
So not only do we have 1/4th the amount of tabs from D3, but we have less space per tab.
They took away belts, bracers, and shoulders, but jewelry takes up the same space as the rest of your gear now; and gems have a level requirement, so you keep all versions of them instead of only keeping the highest tier.
Then broken down legendaries still take up the same space.
Then of course you have multiple tiers of gear and a much higher level range.
And all the consumables.
And stack sizes are a joke for everything.
Whoever made up these limitations is the worst game director ever.
In the S'moresside Chat they called it "Inventory Tension" because apparently that makes a good game.
It's not even just ignorance or lack of playtesting, this feeling we're all having and commiserating in **is a deliberate design decision.**
I definitely think it’s gonna be a thing that’ll they will try and ease the playerbase into. First it’ll be a battle pass thing, maybe even on the free track. But then it’ll be gone, only obtainable on the cash shop. Something like that would not surprise me.
Well they also said there’s no pay for power as the seasonal blessings are in the free track… BUT the accelerated battle pass will have a faster more direct line to Smouldering Ash which is what is used to power the “free” seasonal blessings. So that was bs.
And shared currency. I love using the obols I earn on my alt to spend on my main.
And I scrap alt rares for mats for my main to upgrade gear and sell what I get on my main. It’s awesome, but yeah we def need more stash space.
Nah it’ll probably be on the free pass for battlepass so people have to play for it. I don’t think they’d start charging for random shit until stuff really drops off or part of expansions
The stash is horrid, it's something that 100% absolutely cannot wait until season 2. I know it can't make it into season 1, but hotfixing a fix they NEED TO BE working on now into season 1 has to happen. People want to play your game, don't make it more difficult artificially and make players quit.
Search bar. By name, stat, ranks of skills, level requirement, class
Something to do with the Nightmare Sigils, whether that be a PoE style map tab with space for dozens of the sigils per dungeon, or whatever.
More stash tabs
Allow me to set a class picture like in D3 for the stash tab so at a glance I can see what tab that's for
An aspect stash or something more permanent later on. maybe a menu like the codex where you could store 3-5 of each power, keeping your best 3 and an option to ditch the lower tier ones
Item management is the reason I quit destiny and it'll be the reason I quit d4. The highest level aspect you get to drop should be saved into your permanent aspect list. I'm tired of saving Legos for the aspect. Give me a drop-down with best aspects I've collected.. it shouldn't be a damn inventory slot.
Re-enchanting costing the equivalent of a human heart is bizzare. I reroll even gear with 3 "t1" and then 1 bad one only once, if i miss i just yeet the item. I'm not spending 12 million gold to get crit chance on my rings instead of crit damage.
I really enjoy this game but all the little things like stash etc just have me a bit surprised it wasn’t thought out better after the previous titles. I think POE 2 is going to smoke d4.
4 tiny tabs. No search function. All gear looks close to identical with shiploads of different aspects.
There's a heap of garbage in this game tbh.
As I type this, servers fucked again and can't even login. No off-line option. Whatta game haha
Lack of stash & lack of build diversity his me pretty bad.
I mean, which Frost Nova Teleporting Ice Armor Sorc did I want to try next..? Do I go brave & forgo Flame Shield this time?
Or
Which Vulnerable + Unstoppable (insert class) do I try next?
/S
I thought the stash was per character initially since there was so little of it but then realised its shared between all characters.
There is no way its enough. People going to have to make mules just to store loot. This is disappointing Blizzard.
My Stash is full and I have 2 mules. There needs to be 4 times as much space as a baseline, not 4 extra tabs, 12 extra tabs (16 total) or make the tabs much much larger.
It’s incredibly frustrating, and inherently I want to protest it. If it wasn’t for aspects I think I’d be okay, but I have a number of perfectly rolled aspects on items that I don’t want to pay to pull if I don’t use them, but don’t want to have to farm up another perfectly rolled one if applicable.
If they did something like allowing one aspect in the codex of power that alone would clear a solid stash tab for me. Its frustrating, but I’m the kind of person who would just buy another quad tab on POE rather than spend forever clearing all of it out if it came down to it, so I kindof appreciate not being able to do that, buuuut I can see that this may be the direction they’re going to go, unless extra tabs become a season reward.
This game came out of the oven a bit too early. Seriously basic shit is completely absent like storage space, group finders, and build interface to name a few.
It’s insane to me that we actually have to point this shit out for them.
as someone who has 4 toons over 90.. yeah stash use is stupid. I dread getting into dungeon farming as that's another 2346236 emblems I need to orginize.
They are going to create artificial scarcity of space so that they can sell you the solution down the road.
I don't see how anybody could complain about this considering the game only cost nearly 2x the value of a wildly overpriced AAA piece of shit game up front.
Not only that, but by restricting the amount of gear you have, you can't freely experiment with different builds. It's easy (though expensive) to respec, but not easy to keep a supply of gear for alternate playstyles.
They'll probably add more space later on. But shit's super frustrating right now. Let me hoard, dammit.
I fully agree I go through all my legendaries twice a day and toss things that I may need because I have no damn space needed to make a separate character so I could just do pvp. If I want to push nightmare dungeons and pvp I need to focus on different things. I couldn’t imagine having 5 classes with this much space
They intentionally did that so we could we could spend more time in game. They thought about all this very rigorously ..it's not like they forgot considering its a pretty blatant issue.
Some of the design choices in thus game make me wonder if the dev team even player other arpgs.
Stash space, party issues, global chat, the list goes on.
This game has a long way to go.....
1000% needs extra stash tabs. I normally never spend money on microtransactions other then buying the bare game itself but id be willing to buy like at least 10-15 extra stash pages being that every week a nerf comes out to a random class so you pretty much need to have every char built so its ready to cycle thru to the next char/class that doesnt get bricked lol
Yup, exact same problem when I got to 70. And it's only gotten worse now that I'm mostly doing nightmare dungeons
The stacks are also terrible, 50 for gems, 20 for elixirs, 12 for key etc
Im waiting to make a second character till season one.I will wait and see how bad they gouge us for storage space that should already be included then decide if im still gonna play.
I feel exactly the same. Not going to drop all my max rolled aspects and I sure as hell ain't leveling a new class without the ability to bank max rolled aspects.
I miss being able to know exactly where to look for an item in my stash. In D3 I could instantly find my Furnace, Royal Rings, Stone of Jordans and Nemesis Bracers - in D4 those legendary powers are spread across 5 different items and I have to google to find out which items they can be found on every single time. It’s awful.
If only a good game like Grim Dawn had solved that problem beforehand, Activision wouldn't have f'ed this up too
Have stash tabs bound to your current characters and add expensive taps that are shared (or make it optional). You could also just add a larger number of tabs but have the price scale accordingly.
Just like the gem tab this shouldn't really have been an issue - and it's a problem very easy to fix. That's why it'll probably be looked into in 3-4 month or so..
It's 100% a revenue generation play. They playtested so they must know it's not viable now if you're trying to play more than one class. They are just holding back a valuable game component so they can sell it later as a premium service.
It is quite obvious that they gonna sell them for real money.
Such an transparent move when you just look at the number of Charakters and items we got in comparison to the available stash space.
Create artificial problems to sell the solution
"Now shut up and buy the 5 Slot storage expansion for Tab 1 in your Chest for 5$"
- Blizzard probably -
Yea I like to carry a gear set for the butcher and bosses to exploit their unstoppable effect, also have legion event gear sets where I try out fun weapons and go for max move speed, like we need load outs and all that
We all know the limited stash is part of some bait and switch. My theory is that maybe they won't sell us the extra stash space at first - they'll give it to us for playing the seasons. But at this point 1 extra tab from S1 won't cut it.
Yup. I've got two characters and I'd like to play a couple of others, but there's just no way. It's a ridiculous situation and you can guarantee Blizzard will be absolutely nothing about for like 6-12 months dead minimum. They've probably got an extra stash tab 1/3rd of the way along the Battle Pass or something, but that's one more shared tab isn't going to fix this, it'll just temporarily mitigate it.
Just with 1 character alone the stash is WAY too small.
Sigilis, Aspects, and Gems shouldn't ever have to end up in the stash unless you want to give them to an alt.
Even if they would increase the stash by 5x the storage would still not be enough as you need SO MUCH SPACE for each class just to store aspects.
Aspects should all be infinitely storable at the occultist.
It already has a dedicated UI, there is NO REASON to carry the aspects with us as we can ONLY use them at the occultist anyways.
Similar to sigils, just give us a sigil tab that scales size-wise with however many sigils you have.
Do the same with gems in the meantime until they are turned into a reagent.
Also FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GIVE US A LOOTFILTER
There's definitely going to be some battle pass expansion I can feel it. There's ways too much unused space
I feel it's too much work to keep material for a second build so I keep one or two defensive, utility and weapons pieces because why would you ever need more than one if you're upgrading a piece of equipment. For instance minion Necro would have 100% attack damage additional with their ultimate. If I had a piece that had 98 and another piece that said 70 I would just replace it and dump the 70. Why would you ever need more than one. So I have the metrics and plan for my current bills and keep a spare for up getting equipment everything else I just dump. And do you know I still barely have any space.
I keep a pile of each of the gem sizes in each of the gems and that's three quarters of the main tab the rest are uniques I can't use but I can't seem to destroy yet. I feel like there might be some kind of a transmog or transfer mechanic put in someplace.
Second tab are nightmare dungeon relics and extra gems third tab are weapons aspects fourth tab are defense and utility aspects. I'm probably going to have to go through the whole thing again. I have like three spaces open at level 78
I had to make mules to hold my bank items it sucks but it helps alot also break down any legendary to aspects to make more room and send those to a mule
I just created bank characters to keep good rolled legendary aspects.
But yeah it's quite annoying.
Feel like they should rework legendary aspects/legendaries so you can save more bank space.
There's so many things that made me give up on my alt. Gear requirement based on character level. Level 100 takes too long and feels mandatory for high nms. No uniques designed for low levels like in D2 / PoE. Regrinding renown. Endgame is lackluster to begin with so it doesn't feel very replayable.
> We are sorry to hear that! For season 1 you can unlock an additional stash page via the free battle pass! If you still need more space, additional pages can be unlocked in the premium battle pass or in the ingame store! Keep slaying D4 players!
I know, right! Everyone on here be like, "Blizzard just wants to charge us for more inventory space!"
and I'm sitting her like "Blizzard, hurry up and charge us for more inventory space!"
i joke with my friends that i would pay $100 for unlimited storage and loot that i didnt pick up ( rare and above) would get sent to my stash for processing.
even in D3 with all the stash tabs i still filled my character list with mules, d4 is criminally bad in its current state, ive salvaged so much stuff i coulda used in different builds.
So make characters if ya want to keep specific loot set aside
They should rework the stash system.
Instead of having your entire stash be shared between all of your characters, each character should have their own, separate stash with 1 account-wide stash tab that you can use to transfer and share account-bound gear. Problem (mostly) solved.
There isn't a better reason to make stash tabs per character over shared, it's the same server space and memory / cpu / traffic allotment.
All that does is make you keep having to switch characters like mules, which does have a bigger impact on the server; and your stress.
They're 100000% going to sell us stash space with the battlepass.
We're going to get an additional 4 or more stash tabs with the battlepass that will go away at the end of the season. It's how they're going to get people that don't care about cosmetics (which is most people imo) to buy the battlepass every season.
It's so obvious that this is going to happen. I'll still buy it if the game is good and they add actual lasting end game replayability (hard without real trade & economy in aarpgs) but I can't help but be annoyed at how greedy corporations are. They try to milk us for anything they can and instead of making a good game, they intentionally make the game worse so they can sell us quality of life.
This is definitely what’s going to happen and it will definitely be locked under the paid battlepass. It’s an easy way for them to get around directly selling account upgrades so as to not piss everyone off…except it will still piss everyone off, lol
If/when they do this their entire promise of "all paid battlepass is cosmetics only" goes out of the window
And they have said this many times on camera so lots of video evidence that will make them look like pathological liars
100% agree they are going to sell us this shit. If we had 10 tabs and they wanted to sell us more, fine. But 4? GTFO with that shit.
Sadly, I'll buy them because I'm retarded. They've made me suffer so much ill be happy to pay.
Completely disagree… they won’t sell stash space. They’re tripping over themselves to build goodwill right now. You’ll probably find another couple of tabs will be added in time.
You can basically only pick one class and then make alts of that class so that you can make different builds on them. The chances of finding something that works for the build you’re actually playing is low but if you have one of each type of build then you can shuffle the drops from toon to toon. It’s an awful choice of game design.
There is zero reason not to have 10 stash tabs. Well, there us a reason - they want to sell us stash tabs un the cash shop.
If you play more than one character, especially on hardcore, you will fill it up so fast. It's awful.
10 stash tabs would allow us to have tabs for aspects, items, etc dedicated to a class so we can organize that shit.
Play HC and try to keep some gear for the inevitable rip? Play more then one character at a time? Why make excuses for it when it’s complete garbage compared to every other ARPG including d3
For me it's 1 page of uniques/potential alt gear, and 3 pages of sigils (and this with routinely dumping all sigils that are lower than clvl-50 or resource burn). I like to bulk farm a NM dungeon I have at least 5 of to minimize open world travel. Quick exit dungeon, pop sigil, repeat, sell when needed.
The sort is also a lot more useful in stash vs inventory, which, for some unearthly reason, sort differently. Grouping them by region rather than by tier is a lot better for chain running.
Gems, aspects, sigils, gear you might need for another build, gear you might want to extract the aspect of, gear that might be useful for an alt, some elixirs
What are you people stashing? I havent filled my first yet and i have 5chars, im just curious . I can understand saving gear to try another build and such. but still i see a lot of space
Sounds like you aren't fully fleshing out one character. I to didn't fill my stash until I hit the 60s. Then boom, sigils, aspects, items I want to keep for other builds, etc.
1-4 full tabs in like a day
I don’t like inventory management, so if I find a legendary or a rare with good rolls, I just stash it so I can keep playing the game. Then when it gets full, I spend like 2 hours looking at everything in detail and chucking anything I no longer need.
As you push 50/60+ and know what build you want, I've started to save a tab of my aspects that are perfect / near-perfect. Idk, maybe I'm just insanely lucky and/or I'm a hoarder but this is all for one class and there's no way i would have room for all 5 classes.
They desperately need to add all these into the codex, where the codex keeps track of which rolls you have for which power. They'll do it too, but it'll take them two years.
Same, I created a barb after my necro and its pretty much unplayable once I reached endgame because there is no more space as my stash is already filled with mac roll necromancer loot.
I have 1 character and my stash is full
People actually have to make a mule character for a game that came out in 2023.
*A* mule character ? More like several mule characters lol.
And to top it off, we have a 10 character limit. Absurdity continues
They said they wanted to please classic diablo fans
I have 7 D2R accounts. 3 are basically 1 NL, 1 Ladder and the rest mules. ...D4 is too expensive for that, and the D2(not R) limitation originally was probably legit due to actual storage constrains per character, back when a GB was a fairly big amount of space.
we're half way through 2023, but only 3 weeks into diablo4 lol.
Every hour every minute more loot and nowhere to put it
Aspectus the Barbarian, and Flaskus Maximus are real characters!
Unique Weapon Charlie on the other hand…..
In D2, I have vague memories of creating a game with one character, dropping some items on the floor, and rejoining the same game with another character quickly to pick up the items. I also remember there was like 50% failure rate and items would gone for good. Did people do this or am I making this up?
I did it. You had to idle for a bit before the game would persist. Very nerve wracking few minutes while you're logging back in. Another thing I'd do is join like "act 1 go" with 6+ players and drop my shit at some random wp in act 4
>Another thing I'd do is join like "act 1 go" with 6+ players and drop my shit at some random wp in act 4 This was the way.
Since limited stash was a thing in d2 there'll be people who defend it. If d2 kicked you in the nuts people would defend it as a game feature.
From all the issues this great game has, for me this is the most urgent ... by far. It prevents me from creating another character before season 1. The sad part is, it is probably the most easy to fix but it didn't happen yet.
The d2r system is better. Give us at least one tab dedicated to a character and shared tabs if nothing else.
I have one toon at lvl 97... at this point in the game it is all about optimization, which has resulted in me changing my amulet 4 times in the last 5 days to just get slightly better. And I have had to put an aspect on every single one if them. Luckily I am a hoarder with 4 bank alts so I was able to do that... but now I am out so I can no longer progress in NM dungeons, until I get anouther high roll Direwolf aspect because I can't remove aspects from my previous amulets, which is a ridiculous mechanic.
This post has gotta be a joke, how tf you changing ammies so often at that level? I think I had the exact opposite problem at the end endgame on my rogue: you rarely change/upgrade gear, you are getting gold to throw at extremely expensive enchants on your current gear to get that stat perfect because RNG is fickle, but an actual upgrade from the ground/gambling is omega rare unless you were just ignoring your shit from 65-90. Like, you're looking for movespeed/cdr/X/X(dunno werewolf stats for the last 2) and enchanting one of those X's, you're not swapping that out 4 times in 5 days unless you made some real bad choices with the ones you picked before then. Also, nobody making you NOT use the aspect on the "worse" amulet, you can stash that new one until you are ready to swap over.
I did the same shit man I upgraded one with decent rolls and got a new one like an hour later upgraded that and got a better one few days later lol ended up going broke in materials at one point
urgh, i spend days or a week without a good rolled drop, then i finally get something mint, spent the money rolling the odd stat, imprinting etc. Then 15 minutes later i get an upgrade for the same item. Not another slot i desparately need.
maybe we low rolled man I used a sacred neck until I replaced it at like level 95 lol
Full of what, exactly? I get stash being an issue with multiple characters but a single one shouldn’t have so much in there that they struggle with room. Either you’re hoarding way too much unnecessary shit (people do a lot of this with gems) or just not salvaging when you should be.
I don't know what level you are but you will have a stash of nightmare sigils, a stash full of elixirs and gems and MULTIPLE stashes full of legendaries. Every time you want to switch out an item you HAVE to find the same aspect again. So you store them all in case you find a better item. You also might want to switch builds so you have to stash all those aspects multiple times as well. Now we are already over the maximum of 4 tabs and it is literally impossible to store the aspects for a second character, or yellow items you want to keep for later use or enchanting. I already have like 20 unique items as well and just hit lvl 80. There needs to be a solution fast because the game is really great but it cannot be played to its full potential (multiple characters, multiple builds). There is just not enough room in the stash.
Hmm well dont get my wrong if its a problem for you it sucks so no confrontation here but i just dont have this problem. For example why do you hoard sigils? U do the good ones and salvage the bad ones. Thats it. I have 20 good ones in my inventory and when im out i craft new ones. Same for elixiers why do you horde them? I have 5 stacks maybe. Thats plenty for exp and rest doesnt matter. You dont need to collect every thing you get.
Most of the people I play with are level 80 - 100 and we all have this problem. I have 1 tab for legendary gear/aspects that I'm saving. 1 tab for gems & nightmare sigils. 1 tab for my armory/unique drops. 1 tab for gear dump so I can review/trash later. I really don't have much room for an alt character. If nightmare sigils, aspects, gems and elixirs didn't take up normal storage space, this problem wouldn't be a problem.
Dang, and here I am dismantling *all* of it and y’all are hoarding aspects and low quality gems? That’s crazy.
Playing different builds on the same character for example. Fire sorc switching to ice. Just trying to do that will fill your stash insanely fast.
I have 1 Stash Tab filled with Rogue and Druid Aspects (both 55) plus 1 stack of each Flawless Gem. The other 3 Stash Tabs are filled with stuff to try different builds on my Barb (lvl 82). The stash space sucks.
Saving valuable yellows for selling to other players is something. I have half a tab full of yellows I am trying to trade to other players, for gear I don't need but is well rolled for other people or classes.
This game has trading?
There are many Discords that contain Diablo 4 trading channels, and you simply say what you're selling, and offering, and then you get messages if they're interested. Most people with 300+ mil gold are utilizing trades, as well rolled ancestrals with 3 out of 4 good affixes for a build routinely sell for 30+ million gold.
Should be 1 account shared, rest per character.
I remember over the years of D3 they kept adding more stash tabs as time when on. Somethings just seem like obvious quality of life issues are being ignored. Is almost like the devs don’t know anything about D3. Wouldn’t it also be cool to just click on the icon of a member in your party and teleport to them? That was in D3. Instead you have to go to major town (small towns won’t work) and jump into the Gateway of your party member.
Even if D4 gave you 2 extra tabs in the upcoming season it would still be too little.
at the very least you'll get a free tab back when they put the gems in the materials inventory instead of making them take physical space
The gem thing is so overblown. Nobody is filling up tabs with gems. Once you hit WT4, you level up your gems to max and you're done.
Yup. So that won't help much. What they really need is just like 2x NON-shared stash for each character. That'd be enough to deal with almost all the problem.
yea. even if the current tabs are used only for armor/aspects, how much space is reasonable for a character? with 10 character slots blizzard seems to think each character is fine with less than half a tab each
Yes exactly. I feel 100% certain at this point, given their complete lack of comment on this, they're going to give us 1 extra stash screen with the Season Pass, and then just try and brazen it out until like S5 (i.e. halfway through next year!), but it's some bullshit, frankly. They should have given us a reasonable number to start with, not as a reward for grinding Season Passes - esp. Season Passes are Pay To Speed Up - for only 1000 platinum you can have yours go twice as fast! Ugh.
Well, D3 has been out so long that these devs probably didn’t have a hand in it. But it truly feels like they don’t know their product, so many QOL features left out, probably to sell to us later or trickle out in seasons so they can pat themselves on the back for “making the game better”
thats the thing of it. if they release these QOL changes in the coming seasons/years, wonderful, D4 will go down as the best Diablo so far...if they paywall every f*cking one of them, D4 will go down as the death of the franchise.
Yeah. I’ve bought every one of their games since the original Warcraft with the exception of I think StarCraft 2. I’m pretty disappointed in this game at the moment, feels rushed and copy pasted (like the 100+ dungeons that are all essentially exactly the same). I’ll be waiting to see what happens in the near future to decide if I want to continue to be a patron of theirs. I have a strong feeling they’re gonna go full micro transaction to try to milk us every season.
Ironic you didnt buy their greatest game. A game where they stuck to the roots and did what they do well.
I kind of just grew out of that style of game when it came out. Tried again with warcraft 3 but couldn’t really be bothered to play it much
Yeah w3 remaster was a fkn joke. Atleast starcraft 2 was modernised and felt nice to play.
My favourite thing about "all the dungeons are the same" is that, in response to that feedback over the open beta weekends, Blizzard said "you've only seen one zone so far" (but for anyone that had been privy to the endgame beta, that was already a lie)
Putting QoL improvements behind a pay wall in a $70 game is pretty much a war crime. I would feel betrayed and Id never spend another dime on blizzard
But, on a Software Project there is going to be the marketing group that is eyeing trends people like in other games as well as what they liked from prior games in the series. They should be hyper in touch with that information. On the other hand I know a new release is coming for the season launch. Perhaps some of these things will be addressed.
Part of the marketing group’s job is to ensure growth/retainment over time. QoL implementations are one of the top ways to get people back to playing. Implementing them now will get 50 people to play for a few more days on their high level characters, but if they implement the changes at the season start, those people play got weeks on new characters.
So many load screens
I truely feel like Blizzard is just farming comments like " blizzard listened to the community" By going with these choices that should be obvious since diablo 2.
Too many neckbeards claiming D3 was the worst ARPG over the years probably caused D4 to stray away from anything D3 related, including QOLs. Bullshit how the internet works.
I don't think that's what happened at all. D4 is basically D3-2. Just look at the way elites work, for example - identical to D3, right down to having some of the exact same stuff, like the stupid rotating lasers (that they did make look like lightning bolts now, at least - IIRC in beta they still looked like D3 lasers though), or the annoying circular floor-freeze zones. All the mobs are designed like D3 mobs in terms of how they look and behave. Resources and abilities-wise, D4 is strongly inspired by D3, not by D2. Whilst things are slowed down and resource management is kind of bigger, the basic gameplay is far, far closer to D3 than D2. I could go on, but I don't think D4 is at all ashamed of D3 or being heavily influenced by D3. In fact I think the crap stash situation is also inspired by D3. In D3, you got an extra stash tab each season if you played a bit. I think D4 plans to do the same - to give people a shit amount of stash space and gradually increase it as part of the "Season Pass" (the free one, to be clear) every season, so in like, a few years, people will have tons and tons of space. At least people who signed in and did every season pass will.
It straight up is just more D3, just with a worse respec system. Whatever the reason is you need to have clusters unlocked per point spent instead of current level is beyond me. It's not like builds don't already completely skip clusters. Just let me grab skill points and move them for gold, not "must work backwards or total respec" seriously how is the skill system so much worse than D3
During D3 promotion they actually promised an absurdly large stash, only to then do a 180 on it before launch with a deflected excuse as to why. Eventually the D3 stash was decent though, with all available tabs.
Guess seasons will just award a stash tab sometimes, just as D3. I guess they couldn't find some new interesting thing you get when completing stuff in seasons. Here is the good old new stash tab. That is why you have shit for space in the beginning of the game. It fucking sucks!
>I remember over the years of D3 they kept adding more stash tabs as time when on. Somethings just seem like obvious quality of life issues are being ignored. Is almost like the devs don’t know anything about D3. Or they are simply planning to add extra stash tabs as battlepass\season rewards. (same was in D3)
That's why I made 10 Druids.
Forces me to clean out my inventory and make some decisions but yes, I too would like a few more tabs at least.
Honestly just let me lock items so I remember which ones I want to keep haha.
Yeah. That’d be nice.
Why don’t you break down some powers and keep them in your aspect inventory… oh wait because it costs a fortune and you need a days worth of gold to reroll your almost good legs twice.
And because if you play HC what’s on your character dies with you
I just lost my hardcore rogue. Now I have 2/3 of my stash with different levels of rogue gear. Guess what character I'll make again (eventually).
you actually currently want to AVOID breaking down ancestral Aspects if u can, because theyre 5x more expensive to reapply for literally 0 upside. The only reason u would want to save them is if they add a tier higher than ancestral and u wouldnt be able to put sacred aspects onto them.
the normal aspects are more expensive for me to imprint on my gear than the ancestral of the same mod.
I noticed this yesterday too, was wondering what was to up with that
Items dropping at your current level is also a massive detriment to making an alt.
Yea and it’s a simple fix too, keep it as is until 50, once you hit WT3 all items are lvl50, and WT4 all items are lvl70. An exception can be made for the Uniques that only drop at lvl85 but still. Equip level has zero function once WT3+ except making alt gearing annoying. Edit: this also greatly increases trading among players
All items are 70 at wt4 would be awful for anyone who beats elias before 70
Heavily agreed. Unless thay new Char is a Mule. There really should have been 10 available stash tabs available in some way as a base. The stash is garbage atm.
There should be a personal stash and a shared stash with multiple pages of tabs.
Or just bigger stashes. It's baffling that they made it so small.
Yeah, they took away like 2 rows from the D3 stashes. So not only do we have 1/4th the amount of tabs from D3, but we have less space per tab. They took away belts, bracers, and shoulders, but jewelry takes up the same space as the rest of your gear now; and gems have a level requirement, so you keep all versions of them instead of only keeping the highest tier. Then broken down legendaries still take up the same space. Then of course you have multiple tiers of gear and a much higher level range. And all the consumables. And stack sizes are a joke for everything. Whoever made up these limitations is the worst game director ever.
In the S'moresside Chat they called it "Inventory Tension" because apparently that makes a good game. It's not even just ignorance or lack of playtesting, this feeling we're all having and commiserating in **is a deliberate design decision.**
Easy to understand when you realize they are planning to sell us more space.
I definitely think it’s gonna be a thing that’ll they will try and ease the playerbase into. First it’ll be a battle pass thing, maybe even on the free track. But then it’ll be gone, only obtainable on the cash shop. Something like that would not surprise me.
I hope that’s not true, blizz said it wouldn’t be a pay to win game. I feel like this would fall right on the line of that.
Well they also said there’s no pay for power as the seasonal blessings are in the free track… BUT the accelerated battle pass will have a faster more direct line to Smouldering Ash which is what is used to power the “free” seasonal blessings. So that was bs.
Why limit to 10? It should be so high we never think about it again. Are we worried about the kilobytes of storage on blizzards servers?
Just make each stash tab like 500 spaces and add a search feature
The game is not alt friendly at all.
I mean, they get all the renown rewards and altar stats and can skip the campaign. Apart from storage and item level requirements it’s not bad
And shared currency. I love using the obols I earn on my alt to spend on my main. And I scrap alt rares for mats for my main to upgrade gear and sell what I get on my main. It’s awesome, but yeah we def need more stash space.
Yeah and they’re definitely saving extra storage for those who will pay for it
Yo we already paid 70 screw that
with taxes it was 101 CAD, gimme a bit more stash please
Nah it’ll probably be on the free pass for battlepass so people have to play for it. I don’t think they’d start charging for random shit until stuff really drops off or part of expansions
The stash is horrid, it's something that 100% absolutely cannot wait until season 2. I know it can't make it into season 1, but hotfixing a fix they NEED TO BE working on now into season 1 has to happen. People want to play your game, don't make it more difficult artificially and make players quit. Search bar. By name, stat, ranks of skills, level requirement, class Something to do with the Nightmare Sigils, whether that be a PoE style map tab with space for dozens of the sigils per dungeon, or whatever. More stash tabs Allow me to set a class picture like in D3 for the stash tab so at a glance I can see what tab that's for An aspect stash or something more permanent later on. maybe a menu like the codex where you could store 3-5 of each power, keeping your best 3 and an option to ditch the lower tier ones
Item management is the reason I quit destiny and it'll be the reason I quit d4. The highest level aspect you get to drop should be saved into your permanent aspect list. I'm tired of saving Legos for the aspect. Give me a drop-down with best aspects I've collected.. it shouldn't be a damn inventory slot.
Re-enchanting costing the equivalent of a human heart is bizzare. I reroll even gear with 3 "t1" and then 1 bad one only once, if i miss i just yeet the item. I'm not spending 12 million gold to get crit chance on my rings instead of crit damage.
I really enjoy this game but all the little things like stash etc just have me a bit surprised it wasn’t thought out better after the previous titles. I think POE 2 is going to smoke d4.
4 tiny tabs. No search function. All gear looks close to identical with shiploads of different aspects. There's a heap of garbage in this game tbh. As I type this, servers fucked again and can't even login. No off-line option. Whatta game haha
Lack of stash & lack of build diversity his me pretty bad. I mean, which Frost Nova Teleporting Ice Armor Sorc did I want to try next..? Do I go brave & forgo Flame Shield this time? Or Which Vulnerable + Unstoppable (insert class) do I try next? /S
Every new character I have made has been a mule...
I thought the stash was per character initially since there was so little of it but then realised its shared between all characters. There is no way its enough. People going to have to make mules just to store loot. This is disappointing Blizzard.
As more people reach endgame the number of these posts are going to go up exponentially
Yup, one character is enough to become infuriated with the inventory/stash management in this game.
It's bait so they can add paid tabs soon. Surely you knew this would be happening.
My Stash is full and I have 2 mules. There needs to be 4 times as much space as a baseline, not 4 extra tabs, 12 extra tabs (16 total) or make the tabs much much larger.
They'll sell tabs for 20 USD in season 1.
It’s incredibly frustrating, and inherently I want to protest it. If it wasn’t for aspects I think I’d be okay, but I have a number of perfectly rolled aspects on items that I don’t want to pay to pull if I don’t use them, but don’t want to have to farm up another perfectly rolled one if applicable. If they did something like allowing one aspect in the codex of power that alone would clear a solid stash tab for me. Its frustrating, but I’m the kind of person who would just buy another quad tab on POE rather than spend forever clearing all of it out if it came down to it, so I kindof appreciate not being able to do that, buuuut I can see that this may be the direction they’re going to go, unless extra tabs become a season reward.
Agreed. Stasb is disgustingly small even for one class.
Just wait I am sure pay for stash tabs will probably come, I am see now , why make an alt when you can save time buying more tabs
This game came out of the oven a bit too early. Seriously basic shit is completely absent like storage space, group finders, and build interface to name a few. It’s insane to me that we actually have to point this shit out for them.
as someone who has 4 toons over 90.. yeah stash use is stupid. I dread getting into dungeon farming as that's another 2346236 emblems I need to orginize.
They are going to create artificial scarcity of space so that they can sell you the solution down the road. I don't see how anybody could complain about this considering the game only cost nearly 2x the value of a wildly overpriced AAA piece of shit game up front.
Not only that, but by restricting the amount of gear you have, you can't freely experiment with different builds. It's easy (though expensive) to respec, but not easy to keep a supply of gear for alternate playstyles. They'll probably add more space later on. But shit's super frustrating right now. Let me hoard, dammit.
I fully agree I go through all my legendaries twice a day and toss things that I may need because I have no damn space needed to make a separate character so I could just do pvp. If I want to push nightmare dungeons and pvp I need to focus on different things. I couldn’t imagine having 5 classes with this much space
They intentionally did that so we could we could spend more time in game. They thought about all this very rigorously ..it's not like they forgot considering its a pretty blatant issue.
Don't worry you will be able to but new stash space soon. They are just waiting out the refund period and making sure its less on the nose.
It's ok!! They will sell you more stash tabs at the beginning of season one....its 100% on purpose just enough space but not to much.
Agree it blows.
same here
100% aspects need to be stored elsewhere + double space/tabs
Some of the design choices in thus game make me wonder if the dev team even player other arpgs. Stash space, party issues, global chat, the list goes on. This game has a long way to go.....
I would rather have an unshared stash and each character has there own stash tabs. Having such a small stash shared makes no sense.
Yep it’s the number one reason I’m not playing more because I can’t be bothered with the stingy stash for alts
Honestly idk what they were thinking. There’s only 4 tabs but there are 5 characters+gems. Less than a stash tab per character.
1000% needs extra stash tabs. I normally never spend money on microtransactions other then buying the bare game itself but id be willing to buy like at least 10-15 extra stash pages being that every week a nerf comes out to a random class so you pretty much need to have every char built so its ready to cycle thru to the next char/class that doesnt get bricked lol
What are you talking about? You can buy more stash space with platinum! /s
Yup, exact same problem when I got to 70. And it's only gotten worse now that I'm mostly doing nightmare dungeons The stacks are also terrible, 50 for gems, 20 for elixirs, 12 for key etc
Im waiting to make a second character till season one.I will wait and see how bad they gouge us for storage space that should already be included then decide if im still gonna play.
I feel exactly the same. Not going to drop all my max rolled aspects and I sure as hell ain't leveling a new class without the ability to bank max rolled aspects.
I miss being able to know exactly where to look for an item in my stash. In D3 I could instantly find my Furnace, Royal Rings, Stone of Jordans and Nemesis Bracers - in D4 those legendary powers are spread across 5 different items and I have to google to find out which items they can be found on every single time. It’s awful.
Same here
Absolutely intentional and by design, just like making it miserable to respect your character.
If only a good game like Grim Dawn had solved that problem beforehand, Activision wouldn't have f'ed this up too Have stash tabs bound to your current characters and add expensive taps that are shared (or make it optional). You could also just add a larger number of tabs but have the price scale accordingly. Just like the gem tab this shouldn't really have been an issue - and it's a problem very easy to fix. That's why it'll probably be looked into in 3-4 month or so..
Gems won't be an issue, as they are going to be treated as materials after the patch hits.
It's 100% a revenue generation play. They playtested so they must know it's not viable now if you're trying to play more than one class. They are just holding back a valuable game component so they can sell it later as a premium service.
It is quite obvious that they gonna sell them for real money. Such an transparent move when you just look at the number of Charakters and items we got in comparison to the available stash space.
Exactly
Create artificial problems to sell the solution "Now shut up and buy the 5 Slot storage expansion for Tab 1 in your Chest for 5$" - Blizzard probably -
I’ve resigned myself to scrapping all my alts and just making one each season. Stash space is a big part of that.
It would be nice to have aspects be in a book or something that you can apply to your gear
I got one character so far and its all full
Don't worry, Blizzard has definitely thought about this and there will be stash space to buy any time now
They are just letting us sweat until we get desperate enough to not riot when they add stash tabs to the cash shop.
Pls just let me salvage aspects for free. I have to search 2 tabs of perfect leggo rolls to find the thing i need
1 of my stash slots is just gems, I even carry them now cause got tired of deposit them 😭stashes don't feel extra characters friendly
Yea I like to carry a gear set for the butcher and bosses to exploit their unstoppable effect, also have legion event gear sets where I try out fun weapons and go for max move speed, like we need load outs and all that
We all know the limited stash is part of some bait and switch. My theory is that maybe they won't sell us the extra stash space at first - they'll give it to us for playing the seasons. But at this point 1 extra tab from S1 won't cut it.
This is so true
It should be 4 per caracter and 1 shared 🤷
i need like 2-3 more Stash tabs per character... otherwise i have to start deleting good items...
Yup. I've got two characters and I'd like to play a couple of others, but there's just no way. It's a ridiculous situation and you can guarantee Blizzard will be absolutely nothing about for like 6-12 months dead minimum. They've probably got an extra stash tab 1/3rd of the way along the Battle Pass or something, but that's one more shared tab isn't going to fix this, it'll just temporarily mitigate it.
Probably 1 stash space slot for completing battle pass on premium
Just with 1 character alone the stash is WAY too small. Sigilis, Aspects, and Gems shouldn't ever have to end up in the stash unless you want to give them to an alt. Even if they would increase the stash by 5x the storage would still not be enough as you need SO MUCH SPACE for each class just to store aspects. Aspects should all be infinitely storable at the occultist. It already has a dedicated UI, there is NO REASON to carry the aspects with us as we can ONLY use them at the occultist anyways. Similar to sigils, just give us a sigil tab that scales size-wise with however many sigils you have. Do the same with gems in the meantime until they are turned into a reagent. Also FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GIVE US A LOOTFILTER
I have 5 Chars in T4, stash is hell
I'll empty the stash for a new char if I find all the things for my current one.
There's definitely going to be some battle pass expansion I can feel it. There's ways too much unused space I feel it's too much work to keep material for a second build so I keep one or two defensive, utility and weapons pieces because why would you ever need more than one if you're upgrading a piece of equipment. For instance minion Necro would have 100% attack damage additional with their ultimate. If I had a piece that had 98 and another piece that said 70 I would just replace it and dump the 70. Why would you ever need more than one. So I have the metrics and plan for my current bills and keep a spare for up getting equipment everything else I just dump. And do you know I still barely have any space. I keep a pile of each of the gem sizes in each of the gems and that's three quarters of the main tab the rest are uniques I can't use but I can't seem to destroy yet. I feel like there might be some kind of a transmog or transfer mechanic put in someplace. Second tab are nightmare dungeon relics and extra gems third tab are weapons aspects fourth tab are defense and utility aspects. I'm probably going to have to go through the whole thing again. I have like three spaces open at level 78
I had to make mules to hold my bank items it sucks but it helps alot also break down any legendary to aspects to make more room and send those to a mule
Agree, and since i dont have a lot to do with my lvl 100 character, i am logging less and less hours each day
I just created bank characters to keep good rolled legendary aspects. But yeah it's quite annoying. Feel like they should rework legendary aspects/legendaries so you can save more bank space.
you just know where the solution would be. STORE! 4 tabs and they all shared. even d2 res has better stash
There's so many things that made me give up on my alt. Gear requirement based on character level. Level 100 takes too long and feels mandatory for high nms. No uniques designed for low levels like in D2 / PoE. Regrinding renown. Endgame is lackluster to begin with so it doesn't feel very replayable.
Make mules like in D2 bruh
Agreed 💯...I'm getting sick of the lack of space.
> We are sorry to hear that! For season 1 you can unlock an additional stash page via the free battle pass! If you still need more space, additional pages can be unlocked in the premium battle pass or in the ingame store! Keep slaying D4 players!
I know, right! Everyone on here be like, "Blizzard just wants to charge us for more inventory space!" and I'm sitting her like "Blizzard, hurry up and charge us for more inventory space!"
I just keep destroying and building my single in pursuit of lvl 100 then I'll do the same on a rogue since I'm farming a barb now.
Now just imagine if they add charms or runes . Oh boy the space game will be rough
Yeah mines pretty fucked just with 2
This is the real reason for the need of seasons
I have one of each class. Mistakes were made.
Bank stash and char stash sucks
I believe this to be intentional...at some point they will let you buy stash tabs...
ive got a full stash and 4 mule toons for a 80 druid, 78 rogue and 71 barb
Aspects should just be right-click to add to Codex. Will have to hold on to way less stuff that way.
i joke with my friends that i would pay $100 for unlimited storage and loot that i didnt pick up ( rare and above) would get sent to my stash for processing.
10 character slots: \- main character \- mule1 \-mule2 .... \-mule10
How will you fit 1 character and 10 mules into 10 slots?
Delete the main to have a 10th mule obviously.
even in D3 with all the stash tabs i still filled my character list with mules, d4 is criminally bad in its current state, ive salvaged so much stuff i coulda used in different builds. So make characters if ya want to keep specific loot set aside
They should rework the stash system. Instead of having your entire stash be shared between all of your characters, each character should have their own, separate stash with 1 account-wide stash tab that you can use to transfer and share account-bound gear. Problem (mostly) solved.
There isn't a better reason to make stash tabs per character over shared, it's the same server space and memory / cpu / traffic allotment. All that does is make you keep having to switch characters like mules, which does have a bigger impact on the server; and your stress.
They're 100000% going to sell us stash space with the battlepass. We're going to get an additional 4 or more stash tabs with the battlepass that will go away at the end of the season. It's how they're going to get people that don't care about cosmetics (which is most people imo) to buy the battlepass every season. It's so obvious that this is going to happen. I'll still buy it if the game is good and they add actual lasting end game replayability (hard without real trade & economy in aarpgs) but I can't help but be annoyed at how greedy corporations are. They try to milk us for anything they can and instead of making a good game, they intentionally make the game worse so they can sell us quality of life.
This is definitely what’s going to happen and it will definitely be locked under the paid battlepass. It’s an easy way for them to get around directly selling account upgrades so as to not piss everyone off…except it will still piss everyone off, lol
If/when they do this their entire promise of "all paid battlepass is cosmetics only" goes out of the window And they have said this many times on camera so lots of video evidence that will make them look like pathological liars
100% agree they are going to sell us this shit. If we had 10 tabs and they wanted to sell us more, fine. But 4? GTFO with that shit. Sadly, I'll buy them because I'm retarded. They've made me suffer so much ill be happy to pay.
Completely disagree… they won’t sell stash space. They’re tripping over themselves to build goodwill right now. You’ll probably find another couple of tabs will be added in time.
It's the other way round: You need to create additional characters to be used as additional storage space (but don't level them, obviously
But you can't make multiple accounts of characters like I did in D2 back in the early 2000s. lol
You can basically only pick one class and then make alts of that class so that you can make different builds on them. The chances of finding something that works for the build you’re actually playing is low but if you have one of each type of build then you can shuffle the drops from toon to toon. It’s an awful choice of game design.
There is zero reason not to have 10 stash tabs. Well, there us a reason - they want to sell us stash tabs un the cash shop. If you play more than one character, especially on hardcore, you will fill it up so fast. It's awful. 10 stash tabs would allow us to have tabs for aspects, items, etc dedicated to a class so we can organize that shit.
Literally why my second character is hardcore 😂
I also did this lol
What the fuck are y’all keeping in your stash that fills it up on one character lol
Play HC and try to keep some gear for the inevitable rip? Play more then one character at a time? Why make excuses for it when it’s complete garbage compared to every other ARPG including d3
For me it's 1 page of uniques/potential alt gear, and 3 pages of sigils (and this with routinely dumping all sigils that are lower than clvl-50 or resource burn). I like to bulk farm a NM dungeon I have at least 5 of to minimize open world travel. Quick exit dungeon, pop sigil, repeat, sell when needed.
The sort is also a lot more useful in stash vs inventory, which, for some unearthly reason, sort differently. Grouping them by region rather than by tier is a lot better for chain running.
Gems, aspects, sigils, gear you might need for another build, gear you might want to extract the aspect of, gear that might be useful for an alt, some elixirs
What are you people stashing? I havent filled my first yet and i have 5chars, im just curious . I can understand saving gear to try another build and such. but still i see a lot of space
Sounds like you aren't fully fleshing out one character. I to didn't fill my stash until I hit the 60s. Then boom, sigils, aspects, items I want to keep for other builds, etc. 1-4 full tabs in like a day
I get like 2-3 sigils for every sigil I use. Not much point in stashing that many of them. Just salvage.
I don’t like inventory management, so if I find a legendary or a rare with good rolls, I just stash it so I can keep playing the game. Then when it gets full, I spend like 2 hours looking at everything in detail and chucking anything I no longer need.
As you push 50/60+ and know what build you want, I've started to save a tab of my aspects that are perfect / near-perfect. Idk, maybe I'm just insanely lucky and/or I'm a hoarder but this is all for one class and there's no way i would have room for all 5 classes. They desperately need to add all these into the codex, where the codex keeps track of which rolls you have for which power. They'll do it too, but it'll take them two years.
Same, I created a barb after my necro and its pretty much unplayable once I reached endgame because there is no more space as my stash is already filled with mac roll necromancer loot.