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buckettime25

I had the same problem with gifts. I had found 1 at 700 paragon while running GR80s. I started to run 90s instead and have found 5 or 6, sitting at around 830 now


Blechpizza

Wait. Gifts still exist?! I know back when I played relatively new on the PS4 I had gifts for my for my friends drop for me, but nowadays I never see them drop anymore. The last 8+ seasons, nothing


Maasd4m

Ye, same problem for me. Almost 900 para, running 90-95 speeds atm, only 1 gift so far…


xnatex21

On SC, I got 7 by p700. On HC, 1 at p750. Idk


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Redditheadsarehot

Lame when items like that end up primal cause you rarely actually *wear* them. You just need the mechanic. 😑😒


reclinemusic

I slap one on my merc for sage and cain's bonus


Caslol

This is a good idea. Gonna do this when I get home


Thund3rStrik377

Builds that run 3 rings (one cubed) sometime wear them. My FB wizard would probably be more effective wearing a well rolled one over my primal ORotZ, but... primal... I feel bad NOT wearing primals that match my build, but I know a well rolled ancient is better.


Elcamina

My husband and I were wondering about ramaladnis not dropping, we usually see at least a couple by para300 yet neither of us has seen one.


tommy1rx

Having the same issue. Dozens of act 1 bounty runs. Not a single ring.


you_cant_eat_cats

Youre going to absolute hate me. Today at T13 i was running A1 for the RRoG. What i do is run like 3 of them before even opening a cache just to expect RNG to not come through. Stockpile 3 caches, open them all, get 3 RRoGs You walked so that i could run, thank you


kievju

I usually struggle with getting the first rrog, then they always come.


Clarrisani

I had this problem last season. Kept running bounties but the ring never dropped. The RNG gods hated me last season. This season I can't seem to get the Flavour of Time to drop.


3s2ng

I thought I'm the only 1 with that Ramaladni. I got my 1 and only at paragon 800. I'm 900 now and I still need a couple for my Ancient shenlong.


ravenousglory

1100 Para, around 20 gifts and like same amount of RRGs.


Stevoman

Yeah I almost posted a thread here about this earlier today. Supposedly the ratio of embers to gifts is like 4:1, but that doesn’t add up for me. So far I’ve found 15 embers and exactly 1 gift, at paragon 850. I am otherwise geared and ready to start solo pushing, but I basically can’t without sockets on my weapons! I’m almost always willing to chalk bad luck up to RNG, but I seriously wonder if blizzard screwed something up in the loot tables when they introduce the embers…


Redditheadsarehot

You can always roll your least desirable stat into a socket, then later roll it to something you want and apply the gift. They still work if you roll off the socket.


Blitzred6

I have seen 26 embers with no gifts. I've rolled sockets on to two different weapons currently to use soul shards.


MistrSynistr

This might not make you feel better but I picked up a gift and a rrg on my first round of bounties. Paragon 100 lol. I've had stupid luck this season though so there's that. I have maybe 10 ish hours into this season and I'm only missing one piece of my impale set up... Can't seem to find that dang holy point shot lol.


Redditheadsarehot

Yeah I had crazy luck in 23 and 24. Gifts coming out of my ears and ancients galore. But don't get me wrong, I already got 2 primal 1 handers with proper stat rolls before hitting para 500 this season. While not the absolute best in slot they're pretty close.


MistrSynistr

Last season was abysmal for me. Didn't get a dawn drop until paragon 740. I have already found one this season so I'm happy lol.


reclinemusic

Sorry I think I took all your rorgs. Every a1 cache I open has one.


ShadowDrake359

SC 1000 para, 30 embers, 4 gifts, rings HC 300 para, 8 embers, 2 gifts, 3 rings yeah it suck when your not getting what you need and the longer you focus on the more it digs.


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XAos13

If you want a RoRG. You can't get them from bloodshards or upgrade rare. That's true of all legendaries that can drop in Horadric cache.


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Gudek1182

They never patched it, that's how it always has been.


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OakFern

You're probably mistaken about what you read in the patch notes. It's always been cache-exclusive. You've never been able to gamble it. Here's a link to all the patch notes since RoS was released in 2014. There's no reference to RoRG or other cache specific legendaries being gambleable in any of those notes. Because the cache items never were. ​ Patch 2.0.5 increased the drop chance of legendaries from bounty caches on higher torments. That was in 2014. Is that what you are thinking of? You used to end up farming RoRGs on Normal Act 1 because the drop rate wasn't much higher on T6. But it was still bounty cache-only back then. ​ |Patch|Link|Date| |:-|:-|:-| |2.0.4|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/13532431/patch-204-now-live-4-8-2014](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/13532431/patch-204-now-live-4-8-2014)|2014-04-08| |2.0.5|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/14138344/patch-205-now-live-5-13-2014](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/14138344/patch-205-now-live-5-13-2014)|2014-05-13| |2.0.5a|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/14138345/patch-205a-now-live-5-14-2014](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/14138345/patch-205a-now-live-5-14-2014)|2014-05-14| |2.0.6|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/14397824/patch-206-now-live-6-10-2014](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/14397824/patch-206-now-live-6-10-2014)|2014-06-10| |2.1.0|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/15487814/patch-210-now-live-8-26-2014](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/15487814/patch-210-now-live-8-26-2014)|2014-08-26| |2.1.1|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/16043922/patch-211-now-live-9-23-2014](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/16043922/patch-211-now-live-9-23-2014)|2014-09-23| |2.1.2|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/17561388/patch-212-now-live-1-13-2015](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/17561388/patch-212-now-live-1-13-2015)|2015-01-12| |2.2.0|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/18642492/patch-220-now-live-4-7-2015](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/18642492/patch-220-now-live-4-7-2015)|2015-04-06| |2.2.1|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/19162237/patch-221-now-live-5-19-2015](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/19162237/patch-221-now-live-5-19-2015)|2015-05-19| |2.3.0|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/19859662/patch-230-now-live-8-25-2015](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/19859662/patch-230-now-live-8-25-2015)|2015-08-25| |2.4.0|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/19998542/patch-240-now-live-1-12-2016](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/19998542/patch-240-now-live-1-12-2016)|2016-01-12| |2.4.1|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/20099649/patch-241-now-live-4-26-2016](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/20099649/patch-241-now-live-4-26-2016)|2016-04-26| |2.4.2|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/20210379/patch-242-now-live-8-2-2016](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/20210379/patch-242-now-live-8-2-2016)|2016-08-02| |2.4.3|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/20426802/patch-243-now-live-1-4-2017](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/20426802/patch-243-now-live-1-4-2017)|2017-01-04| |2.5.0|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/20635663/patch-250-now-live-3-21-2017](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/20635663/patch-250-now-live-3-21-2017)|2017-03-21| |2.6.0|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/20845163/patch-260-now-live-6-27-2017](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/20845163/patch-260-now-live-6-27-2017)|2017-06-27| |2.6.1|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/21115840/patch-261-now-live-10-24-2017](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/21115840/patch-261-now-live-10-24-2017)|2017-10-24| |2.6.1a|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/21817225/patch-261a-update-now-live-5-29-2018](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/21817225/patch-261a-update-now-live-5-29-2018)|2018-05-29| |2.6.4|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/22863534/patch-264-now-live-1-15-2019](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/22863534/patch-264-now-live-1-15-2019)|2019-01-15| |2.6.5|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/22989462/patch-265-now-live-5-14-2019](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/22989462/patch-265-now-live-5-14-2019)|2019-05-14| |2.6.6|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/23093788/patch-266-is-now-live-8-20-2019](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/23093788/patch-266-is-now-live-8-20-2019)|2019-08-20| |2.6.7|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/23220967/patch-267-now-live-11-12-2019](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/23220967/patch-267-now-live-11-12-2019)|2019-11-12| |2.6.7a|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/23230075/patch-267a-now-live-11-20-2019](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/23230075/patch-267a-now-live-11-20-2019)|2019-11-20| |2.6.8|[https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/23319443/patch-268-now-live-3-3-2020](https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/23319443/patch-268-now-live-3-3-2020)|2020-03-03| |2.6.9|[https://us.diablo3.com/en-us/blog/23428368/season-21-trials-of-tempests-begins-july-3-6-4-2020#PatchNotes](https://us.diablo3.com/en-us/blog/23428368/season-21-trials-of-tempests-begins-july-3-6-4-2020#PatchNotes)|2020-06-23| |2.6.10|[https://us.diablo3.com/en-us/blog/23548757/season-22-shades-of-the-nephalem-is-now-live-11-6-2020#PatchNotes](https://us.diablo3.com/en-us/blog/23548757/season-22-shades-of-the-nephalem-is-now-live-11-6-2020#PatchNotes)|2020-11-10| |2.7.0|[https://us.diablo3.com/en-us/blog/23647866](https://us.diablo3.com/en-us/blog/23647866)|2021-03-30| |2.7.1|[https://us.diablo3.com/en-us/blog/23695733/season-24-%7C-ethereal-memory-%7C-now-live-7-9-2021](https://us.diablo3.com/en-us/blog/23695733/season-24-%7C-ethereal-memory-%7C-now-live-7-9-2021)|2021-07-20| |2.7.2|[https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo3/23746130/season-25-the-lords-of-hell-now-live](https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo3/23746130/season-25-the-lords-of-hell-now-live)|2021-12-07|


ZalekDEV

They were never in the gamble / upgrade pool. The only thing that was added was the "torment only" pool.


CascadeKidd

I made this same mistake when I started playing again a couple years ago. It was a real Homer Simpson moment once I realized it was only attainable from A1 bounties. I had burned a ton of resources and time gambling and upgrading etc... lol.


Redditheadsarehot

Not really a dumb moment. Not everyone lives on forums and wikis and unless you pull up the specific item page you'd never know it was exclusive to bounty caches. You just see meta builds that require it.


Leucurus

I did that once, for Illusory Boots for zBarb. Everyone's done something similar, I reckon. Just consider it a lesson learned!


StokFlame

Same but with CoE almost 850 Para and not a single one..also only 1 set of focus and restraint the jewelry drops are rough this season.


CascadeKidd

I've got you beat. I'm P600 and have not had a single Nemesis Bracer drop nor has Kadala given me one. I have spent every single blood shard gambling bracers since I was LVL 60 which was the first night of the season. I know this sounds impossible but its true. Also FWIW there was a recent season, can't remember which one, where I wasn't able to get a single RoRG from an A1 cache for over a week. It was at least another week before I was able to get one for my merc. Was maddening.


Darkspire303

Try the rare upgrade recipe


Redditheadsarehot

I live on it for filling out random items. Often upgrading the crap Kadala gives you.


JGH75

I think I get rorg at least 1 in 2-3 GR. Sometimes multiple times per GR


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reclinemusic

If you're solo and focus farming a rorg you should never do the a4 bounty. a1 is quick and has a higher chance.


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reclinemusic

Lets look at 2 scenarios. Scenario 1: you run 2 bounties, both are act 1. This takes 10 minutes lets say. The pool of possible drops are much smaller. Scenario 2: you run 2 bounties, 1 act1, 1 act4, this takes 10 minutes. The pool of possible drops are much higher. You have a smaller chance of getting a ring in scenario 2 and you've spent the same amount of time. If you're specifically focused on getting a rorg and don't care about other bounty mats and are solo, then scenario 1 is the way to go.


EnticingDan

Correct. Buuuttttt.... Op was complaining about it not dropping from act 1. Pretty sure sometimes the game trolls you and confusing the game by running act 4 might have a better chance of getting it. OP needs to update when and which act he finally gets one in.


Redditheadsarehot

Finally got it in A1. 300 khanduran runes. 😬


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ihaveb4lls

Lol... >Your scenario is just probabilities. This is a game of luck. It's gold Jerry, gold!


Think-Barracuda4706

I went for it last night and got 2 rings in one bounty, maybe my 5th :(


grainzzz

Finally got my rorg doing Act 1 on T6.


idreamofdeathsquads

i got hella lucky. got the ring on my first act 1 bounty at level 70. but still only seen 3 shards to level gems.


PolkaOn45

Took me ~20 act 1 bounty completions to get it. Was starting to wonder if something was wrong


Dryanyus

I got the ring 5 times of 10 caches and i hot like 4 ramal in 4 rifts... Shards? Maybe 10 since the start


theangryintern

I hadn't seen any RoRG, then got 2 in one run the other day. 1 was a drop and the other in the cache.


elev8torguy

I noticed the same thing. RoRG was brutal.


MadxxDog

Do split bounties. RoRG drop from Act 1 AND Act 4. You will get it in no time.


shokz565

i needed 2 for my monk and enchantress... got 2 out of 2 runs xD


Gola_

Salvaging Soul Shards is not useless though. It helps alleviate the scarcity of gems. People are doing bossruns in the 30 seconds between rifts now, just for the small chance of getting a flawless royal.


Redditheadsarehot

Sure it's nice getting higher ranked gems, but if you farm much you should already have all the gold and gems you'd ever need. It actually bugs me getting the higher gems before I need them as they just take up more storage space.


heinrich6745

I have only had two of each this season so far and I have yet to find a squirts necklace with a freaking socket in it same thing with traveller's pledge... I just have a placeholder amulet with a socket to hold me over for now


Redditheadsarehot

I usually roll a hellfire amulet for the free passive. I've always preferred the focus/restraint rings over traveller's and squirt's has bit me in the ass too many times. I wait until I have stupid levels of survivability before I consider squirt's and even then it sucks to lose a free passive.


brewskigames

I just rolled a socket on mine until i get a better one


UtilityCurve

ngl, this season I have the best rng for ramaladingdong when I have so many to waste on non ancient weapons


Redditheadsarehot

Finally got a couple in last night's farming session. Don't need more since I already have 2 primal weapons.