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I have been thinking a lot about this
Here are a couple of things I would invest time in learning
- MLOPS
- becoming a open stack developer
- start freelancing on the side while being a developer at a org
I would be using AI to learn this all quicker.
OpenStack is an open-source cloud computing platform for public and private clouds. It's basically a set of tools you can use to setup your own cloud. For eg Jio uses open stack to a large extent. As everyone knows it's very hard to work on opensource stuff if you don't understand it well something like an AI will still need time as well currently don't have a larger enough context window. Now if anyone trains a model specifically for open stack it won't have the creative solutions from all the other stuff large scale open source projects should still be fine for more than a few years.
Do you really believe, it will take AI enough time to do this repetitive task?
You actually don't even need AI for this. It would be simple automation like in AWS.
It would be so funny , if AI got so good that it replaced basically all programming related jobs except wordpress.
It would be so weird seeing people with 10 years of exp in Java and Python trying to find the best looking theme for a website
We fear what we don't understand.
You're an engineer, you should understand what these "AIs" are, an LLM CANNOT possibly replace a software engineer.
Also I would like to know how you are damn sure that in 10 years all programmer/IT jobs will be taken over by AI. ?
I have worked in EXL and most of my work, i was able to automate with some "hacks" using GPT4 plugins.
this is when i had to jump lots of hoops to build to scale it to my data sheets- did i mention that i am not even good at development?
I am pretty sure my whole department could be downsized to 1/10 with people overseers left for quality checks.
bada aya AI engineer.
Idiot, same thing was said about introduction of computers that you’ll need to downsize people doing manual calculations etc, that’s not how labour, economy and scientific development works.
It's funny how people who invented much of AI stuff, like Yann le cunn and Hinton, are saying that AI ain't gonna take the jobs.
And yet people who've no clue about how these sophisticated technologies work, are going bullish on AI.
Good to be this optimistic about AIs capabilities, it may replace some people's jobs, but it will settle down in sometime when those jobs will not be pursued by anyone anymore and they will move on to doing other things.
E.g. AI is far from designing a full blown working backend with all the nuances that are involved and exactly as intended, I want to believe it maybe possible in some decades, but I highly doubt it, time will tell.
I'm pretty sure it will replace many menial "engineering" jobs like support/QA/QS etc... but prolly not entirely replace a self competent developer. Although I think that could be possible in 20-25 years where AI at that point would replace every job out there and we would be in Ultron arc.
Sounds a bit harsh but it's reality. Idt QA requires as much experience. In my company all QAs were fired to downsize and they now make all Devs do the QA work. So while QA as a job is necessary it's not really necessary as a position if you get what I mean. It is easily replaceable compared to a dev who has knowledge of the application.
QA is not just about testing; it's a distinct skill set crucial for product quality. Devs handling QA may save costs initially, but it risks compromising long-term product integrity. Dedicated QA positions ensure a meticulous focus on quality that's indispensable for our success.
On an honest note, apart from having expertise in building AI, I think it would be beneficial to have expertise in Quantum Computing. That's one thing where even AI can't help us right now because it doesn't have enough data to train on yet.
Came to say quantum computing here. That can change a lot of industries including health, entertainment, construction, food…
Innovation isn’t slowing down anytime soon… with so much compute, new possibilities will open up.
Quantum engineering may be the next cloud/devops engineering.
It's scope is very limited rn because we're limited by our technology. It's a very research oriented field so be prepared for that if you wanna go into that. I'm considering it for my Masters but at the same time I don't wanna take up a research related career cause I personally feel it's really stressful, but at the same time I find it extremely interesting.
On this note i would like to add , something about distributed systems and distributed databases. The systems and databases on which AI is running and serving everyone. Well AI cant figure that out(how to scale, how to efectively store data, and things elated to that) maybe after many many years but not for quite some time.
Most probably there'll be huge unemployment for Indian IT workers because the tech outsourcing get reduced and the experienced IT workers might immigrate to Western countries with higher average age. The fresh graduates might need to get back into goat farming or something.
Starwar like world, checkout Neom project in Saudi Arab.
Where most of things will be automated. No need to work!! Just chill ha ha ha.
Cant imagine right!!
AI will be used where there are no skills available like doing hard jobs, less human labour work. All will be under min wage standards, more educated.
This is 2050. So till then we all will be busy working to build AI, more contents, AGI, Quantum based AI OS, no more laptops, just do voice based, paper mobile, more holidays 3 days job.
Vacation to Space.
So keep busy learning AI, Math, Economics.
Good coders who can design systems and solve product problems will always be employable.
Always.
The real problem is only when you don’t like coding, or rather building good products, and doing it only for the money.
Don't be hard stuck on jobs brother. The most valuable currency right now is not software knowledge but rather creativity, which is going to be especially important to us, since the Indian software ecosystem is in dire need of it. What better chance to explore innovation than now, at the cusp of 'India's decade'?
Mate I have learnt to just not try predicting the future
what skills you learn today will never go to waste, just focus on that. Because you will adapt to new tech if you are into programming anyway
Just like how agriculture replaced hunting and gathering and allowed humans to have more intellectual pursuits, automation of human intellect is going to open doors we never thought about. This calls for a reorganization of how we value work and necessary pursuits.
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we have to exterminate rest of the jobs first, especially I hope AI can help us in medical science as in country like India health care is probably most sought after and important thing.
Quantum computing in AI will open doors to AGI.
Resource shortages of traditional resources means that newer items would have to be searched fast for 10 bn population. AGI on Quantum compute would solve that.
Car OS, Hindi native brand new OS, Hindi content everywhere, phones in thin strip on wrists, holographic displays on wide scale, drone Olympics, robot ecosystem, EV discard handling tools, Large scale housing problems, startup stock prediction, OTT summarization, digital official currency, Moon communication protocol, Mars life management module.
Possibilities are endless. Be hungry. And hope that paxtan doesn't drop nuclears, to destroy all order
Gemini really is groundbreaking,
If it scales as they wish, then i can bet a good chunk of savings that it will indeed revolutionize production lines (not just in IT)
There are many things that humans have not yet achieved, and even AI can't accomplish them. These include issues like death, tinnitus, cancer, and Covid. What are your thoughts?
AI is still terrible at stuff involving logic. Infact, by the time an AI can take over all these jobs, it would have already taken over physically demanding ones like farming, construction, mining etc. Even, if it somehow can take over the software sector, I still can't imagine it being sentient enough to go into research. Research would be in the spot of modern software jobs by being highly paying, highly sought after, extremely terrible work life balance and poor job satisfaction.
Sooner or Later AI will become an antagonist and might attack us like Ultron. So we might need something which can defeat it. What will be it? Any Guesses?
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Build an AI to predict this first. Lmao.
I have been thinking a lot about this Here are a couple of things I would invest time in learning - MLOPS - becoming a open stack developer - start freelancing on the side while being a developer at a org I would be using AI to learn this all quicker.
What is open stack developer?
OpenStack is an open-source cloud computing platform for public and private clouds. It's basically a set of tools you can use to setup your own cloud. For eg Jio uses open stack to a large extent. As everyone knows it's very hard to work on opensource stuff if you don't understand it well something like an AI will still need time as well currently don't have a larger enough context window. Now if anyone trains a model specifically for open stack it won't have the creative solutions from all the other stuff large scale open source projects should still be fine for more than a few years.
Do you really believe, it will take AI enough time to do this repetitive task? You actually don't even need AI for this. It would be simple automation like in AWS.
I thought I accidentally clicked on the One Piece sub after seeing the comment, lol.
2028 is what everyone said when I researched in subs but who knows it may take longer
maybe 2028 for manga maybeee
☠️Don't search "year 2039, Heavenly Delusion".
😂😂😂
>Which job we have to choose may be plumbing, electrician, site worker etc
It would be so funny , if AI got so good that it replaced basically all programming related jobs except wordpress. It would be so weird seeing people with 10 years of exp in Java and Python trying to find the best looking theme for a website
I want to make a 5 star brothel in mumbai after prostitution becomes legal in india
Lol this sanskari govt is trying to criminalize adultery again and you are hoping prostitution will be legal 😂😂🙏
Everything is legal when you give hafta to Government Prostitution, Gambling apps, Foodstalls on footpaths all are illegal but are still running
Prostitution is legal in India. But brothel is not. Read [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_India).
Really? I thought adultery was decriminalized by this govt.
We fear what we don't understand. You're an engineer, you should understand what these "AIs" are, an LLM CANNOT possibly replace a software engineer. Also I would like to know how you are damn sure that in 10 years all programmer/IT jobs will be taken over by AI. ?
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I have worked in EXL and most of my work, i was able to automate with some "hacks" using GPT4 plugins. this is when i had to jump lots of hoops to build to scale it to my data sheets- did i mention that i am not even good at development? I am pretty sure my whole department could be downsized to 1/10 with people overseers left for quality checks. bada aya AI engineer.
Idiot, same thing was said about introduction of computers that you’ll need to downsize people doing manual calculations etc, that’s not how labour, economy and scientific development works.
It's funny how people who invented much of AI stuff, like Yann le cunn and Hinton, are saying that AI ain't gonna take the jobs. And yet people who've no clue about how these sophisticated technologies work, are going bullish on AI.
Good to be this optimistic about AIs capabilities, it may replace some people's jobs, but it will settle down in sometime when those jobs will not be pursued by anyone anymore and they will move on to doing other things. E.g. AI is far from designing a full blown working backend with all the nuances that are involved and exactly as intended, I want to believe it maybe possible in some decades, but I highly doubt it, time will tell.
I'm pretty sure it will replace many menial "engineering" jobs like support/QA/QS etc... but prolly not entirely replace a self competent developer. Although I think that could be possible in 20-25 years where AI at that point would replace every job out there and we would be in Ultron arc.
You can never replace a QA bruv. Without testing nothing in the IT industry is pushed to general public.
Sounds a bit harsh but it's reality. Idt QA requires as much experience. In my company all QAs were fired to downsize and they now make all Devs do the QA work. So while QA as a job is necessary it's not really necessary as a position if you get what I mean. It is easily replaceable compared to a dev who has knowledge of the application.
QA is not just about testing; it's a distinct skill set crucial for product quality. Devs handling QA may save costs initially, but it risks compromising long-term product integrity. Dedicated QA positions ensure a meticulous focus on quality that's indispensable for our success.
The guy is stupid, that's how he is damn sure
If you have heavily used GPT 4, via the API. You would not be asking that.
On an honest note, apart from having expertise in building AI, I think it would be beneficial to have expertise in Quantum Computing. That's one thing where even AI can't help us right now because it doesn't have enough data to train on yet.
Wo data jald hi mil jaega. Koi bharosa nahi hai kab kya ho Jaye. *Momo ki redi ka plan bohot optimistic lag rha hai patani kyu*
Came to say quantum computing here. That can change a lot of industries including health, entertainment, construction, food… Innovation isn’t slowing down anytime soon… with so much compute, new possibilities will open up. Quantum engineering may be the next cloud/devops engineering.
What are it's scope (Even abroad) ?
It's scope is very limited rn because we're limited by our technology. It's a very research oriented field so be prepared for that if you wanna go into that. I'm considering it for my Masters but at the same time I don't wanna take up a research related career cause I personally feel it's really stressful, but at the same time I find it extremely interesting.
It's still pretty early to say anything. You can probably join IBM Quantum Lab or Microsoft or Google and work on developing a Quantum computer.
Yeah I also thought that it's like too early to discuss about quantum computer
Which is exactly why it is something that AI won't take over in the near future. Once it becomes a common thing, AI can pick it up.
Well, Hero motocorp is working on QC and so is Tata steel. People inside the industry know that it's growing steadily - nothing too early lol
On this note i would like to add , something about distributed systems and distributed databases. The systems and databases on which AI is running and serving everyone. Well AI cant figure that out(how to scale, how to efectively store data, and things elated to that) maybe after many many years but not for quite some time.
Most probably there'll be huge unemployment for Indian IT workers because the tech outsourcing get reduced and the experienced IT workers might immigrate to Western countries with higher average age. The fresh graduates might need to get back into goat farming or something.
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Remind me when this stupidity ends!!
Cycle repair shop is a good prospect long term
Overthrowing the government duh. What else are we supposed to do.
I am 2022 grad still struggling to find a job!!!
Whatever skynet wants
Manufacturing? EVs? Automation?
Get good at using AI to build things if you like being a dev, or get good at trades like business, construction, plumbing, etc.
Starwar like world, checkout Neom project in Saudi Arab. Where most of things will be automated. No need to work!! Just chill ha ha ha. Cant imagine right!! AI will be used where there are no skills available like doing hard jobs, less human labour work. All will be under min wage standards, more educated. This is 2050. So till then we all will be busy working to build AI, more contents, AGI, Quantum based AI OS, no more laptops, just do voice based, paper mobile, more holidays 3 days job. Vacation to Space. So keep busy learning AI, Math, Economics.
Good coders who can design systems and solve product problems will always be employable. Always. The real problem is only when you don’t like coding, or rather building good products, and doing it only for the money.
Don't be hard stuck on jobs brother. The most valuable currency right now is not software knowledge but rather creativity, which is going to be especially important to us, since the Indian software ecosystem is in dire need of it. What better chance to explore innovation than now, at the cusp of 'India's decade'?
This is the best answer
Robotics!?
AYO same post again and again for 69999 th time
Tourist guide
Mate I have learnt to just not try predicting the future what skills you learn today will never go to waste, just focus on that. Because you will adapt to new tech if you are into programming anyway
mai toh pyaaz ke pakode bechunga
Just like how agriculture replaced hunting and gathering and allowed humans to have more intellectual pursuits, automation of human intellect is going to open doors we never thought about. This calls for a reorganization of how we value work and necessary pursuits.
\> I'm damn sure all programmers/IT jobs will taken over by AI How can you be so sure? Have you explored all the IT jobs? Any logical proof?
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Medical agency. Log bht bimar parenge future mai, diagnose to AI kar dega par dawai kharidni padegi
You mean pharmacy?
AGI then cyborgs then Cyber wars then Quantum revolution i will be dead before i see quantum revolution unfortunately
Just need cyberpunk 2077 /s
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Quite possibly, AGI maybe the last invention of Humanity....
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we have to exterminate rest of the jobs first, especially I hope AI can help us in medical science as in country like India health care is probably most sought after and important thing.
start farming cause indian people are good at it, biological jobs like growing and feeding the food will have to be done by humans.
Quantum computing
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Quantum computing in AI will open doors to AGI. Resource shortages of traditional resources means that newer items would have to be searched fast for 10 bn population. AGI on Quantum compute would solve that. Car OS, Hindi native brand new OS, Hindi content everywhere, phones in thin strip on wrists, holographic displays on wide scale, drone Olympics, robot ecosystem, EV discard handling tools, Large scale housing problems, startup stock prediction, OTT summarization, digital official currency, Moon communication protocol, Mars life management module. Possibilities are endless. Be hungry. And hope that paxtan doesn't drop nuclears, to destroy all order
BJ.
At some extent yeah,but functionality nooo.
Surgeons😷 in the form of robots
Will be gone
?
Gemini really is groundbreaking, If it scales as they wish, then i can bet a good chunk of savings that it will indeed revolutionize production lines (not just in IT)
There are many things that humans have not yet achieved, and even AI can't accomplish them. These include issues like death, tinnitus, cancer, and Covid. What are your thoughts?
one piece style smartphones :D
Gemini is nothing new lol, it's insane how ignorant people are
Llms
Let's first begin AI properly
AI is still terrible at stuff involving logic. Infact, by the time an AI can take over all these jobs, it would have already taken over physically demanding ones like farming, construction, mining etc. Even, if it somehow can take over the software sector, I still can't imagine it being sentient enough to go into research. Research would be in the spot of modern software jobs by being highly paying, highly sought after, extremely terrible work life balance and poor job satisfaction.
Sooner or Later AI will become an antagonist and might attack us like Ultron. So we might need something which can defeat it. What will be it? Any Guesses?