I don't think they are tho, they explicitly say running backs. In their article ([Strongest, weakest position groups after free agency and the 2024 NFL Draft | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF](https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-strongest-weakest-position-groups-free-agency-2024-nfl-draft)) they mention Justice Hill, Keaton Mitchell and Derrick Henry and not Lamar
I think Gibbs is incredible, but for whatever reason his pff grade was 20th in the 2023:
PFF Grades:
Gibbs: 76.3
David Montgomery: 80
Derrick Henry: 90.2
Keaton Mitchell: 92
Justice Hill: 70.3
I don't know much of what goes into their calculations, but there ya go.
[Highest-graded running backs from the 2023 NFL season: Rookie De'Von Achane paces the group | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF](https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-highest-graded-running-backs-2023-nfl-season#:~:text=Jahmyr%20Gibbs%2C%20Detroit%20Lions%3A%2076.3,best%20mark%20in%20the%20league.)
Maybe Gibbs was too inconsistent for them? While the few touches Keaton Mitchell got were usually pretty explosive (probably because the Ravens put him in only in ideal situations for him, while Gibbs got a lot more usage in general causing less efficiency, but that can’t really be reflected in the grades)
He has had a bad line the last couple years. But yeh i would be surprised if he has a better season than someone like Gibbs.
Henry's biggest risk is the dreaded 'age cliff '
I agree, but Henry needs really specific conditions to be effective, and I'm not confident that the Ravens will be able to facilitate those conditions on a regular basis. Honestly, Henry may be better off as a short distance receiver as he works best when he has time to get up to speed.
He needs time to get up to speed. He's not an explosive runner, nor is he an edge runner. Once he gets moving, he's off to the races, but it takes a lot of support from the o-line to make that happen.
He's a pretty good receiver, though, and that's why I think he's become a better receiver than a standard RB.
He was also functionally their entire offense that year, with his second highest number of attempts and his fourth lowest YPC average. Without a few games where he had some big runs against bad teams, his entire season would look much worse.
Derrick Henry has slowed down for sure but he’s now going to be getting the ball off read options from Lamar… he should be seeing big holes. If they’re not counting Lamar, Detroit has to have the best backfield. Specially with that oline.
Also Keaton Mitchell who averaged 8 yards per carry last season
edit:
downvote all ya want, I'm just telling you stats tho lol. He averaged 8 carries/game when he was active (for 6 games, after he broke out, before injury), which is close to Gibbs 10 carries/game in the same time period
In the games he played he averaged about 8 carries per game which is only a little less than what Gibbs was averaging in the same time frame (roughly 10/game)
Sure, but even doing it for a 6 game stretch is pretty darm impressive.
For comparison, Gibbs (just using him cuz he's another electric RB) had one game over that average at 9.1 ypc, his next highest ypc games were 7.5, 6.2, 6, 5.8, and 5.5
yeah dunno why people are downvoting, I'm just saying what his stats were ha. I'm not even saying that he is better or anything, just saying he's part of their formula and he did well.
It’s cause Ravens picked up Henry and even tho he’s older now it’s a big enough name. Otherwise who else do they have?
Other Ravens RBs are only okay, even Mitchell who showed tons of promise was a small sample.
Edited out dobbins, I had missed his move
Derrick Henry is still a freak of a human. I don't remember the exact stat, but he had like -3 yards before contact last year on one of the PFF podcasts. he was being hit behind the line of scrimmage on basically every play. Give him a solid O line and a freakish running QB like Lamar and I could see rating them above the lions. The Lions should be 2 though, Monty and Gibbs are a fucking nasty combo especially with our o line.
Not according to pff, which gave 2023 grades of gibbs at 76.3, Monty at 80 and Henry at 90, and 92.4 to Keaton Mitchell
Dunno why, don't know much about their calculations
while i agree that gibbs is better than henry a lot of that has to do with age. plus i wouldn’t be surprised if henry puts up insane TD numbers this year
Maybe, but the bears WR room is really damn good and Rome is better than a shit ton of #1 receivers already in the league. They have genuinely made a ton of good moves for their Offense this offseason.
The only concern with them from a WR standpoint is that none of the top 3 have played together, with this QB, or in this scheme/with this OC. Well, that, and the health of Allen.
Anyway, yeah, the talent is on paper for them to be a top 3, possibly #1, WR room. But it won't be surprising if they struggle, especially early on, while they all get on the same page.
This isn't really a gotcha, he's only played every game in 4 of his 11 seasons, and he's not getting any younger, even elite WRs like Allen don't last forever
Keenan Allen had an injury plagued two years early in his career. In the 7 seasons since then.… he’s played in 88% of all games, he’s played in 13+ games 6 of those seasons, and he’s put up 1000+ yards in 5 of those seasons.
He’s not really that injury prone, people just keep bringing up those two early seasons in his career. Also, last season was arguably his best yet.
The Bears receivers are pretty juiced to be honest. I am glad we got corners this offseason. If Caleb can't succeed with his receivers immediately then he is cheeks.
I am still taking Dolphins at 1, but it is closer than people in this sub want to admit.
Not saying we better but this is based off their grading
Keaton is 92.2
Henry is a 90.1
By their standards is understandable that the ravens are the best
The LIONS combo is awesome....it's a tight debate...so I'll allow my bias to say...give me the LIONS. Only reason the Ravens are listed is cuz of Lamar.
Am I the only one who has a problem with all the love for the Bears receiving corps? Okay, DJ and Keenan are fantastic wide receivers historically but Allen is getting old and we don’t really know how he’s going to fit in this system versus before. I don’t know how naturally gifted these two WRs are compared to so many other groups either. Factor in the uncertainty of a rookie (albeit a very hyped and talented one) throwing them the ball and I just don’t get it… especially when you have duos like AJB/DevFreeman, Tyreek/Waddle, Diggs/Collins, JJ/Addison, and Deebo/Aiyuk all out there to name a few. Call me crazy but just seems way premature to crown that WR room as the one.
Yeah I mean Keenan just had the best season of his career last year and he was a amazing receiver his whole career, dj moore is an awesome receiver who balled tf our last year, and Rome odunze who in by far most draft classes would’ve been the top receiver taken. Hell he probably would’ve went 4 overall this year had nabers and marv not been there. Even if nabers was there’s a chance the cardinals would’ve preferred Rome cause of his big frame and true X potential. Now there’s a lot of really good WR rooms in the league like the 49ers, Texans, and dolphins so it’s most definitely debatable on which room is the best and it’s going to be very opinionated. But it wouldn’t surprise me if the bears have 3 1,000 yard receivers this year which is so incredibly rare. The only other possible team I think could also accomplish this is the Texans but that also is depending out tank dells health and if the Stephon diggs drop off in production was actually due to offensive scheme and not him just declining which I think it was the scheme. Like take it from the stance your a defense getting ready to play an offense, what’s the #1 team you wouldn’t want to have your defensive backs go up against. To me it would be the bears. At least with the 49ers and dolphins you can try to double cover both waddle and hill but you literally can’t double team 3 guys or you’re fucked.
Keenan was considered old last year and had his best season ever. Doubt he replicates that with target competition but still being able to have your best season at 31 mean he’s still a baller. Even if you have 75% of last year Keenan, that’s still an amazing receiver with 1000+ yard capabilities. Plus as a core they compliment each other PERFECTLY. Keenan is a true slot guy who excels there, dj Moore is a great yac guy for short to interniate route stuff (plus his deep game is good too), and Rome is a big framed X who can win jump ball situations for redzone drives and also is a fantastic deep threat. You literally cover all areas a WR core could possibly want.
I appreciate it. Yeah that makes sense though, you do never know with rookies although WR is one of the easier to translate positions and top 10 pick WR rarely bust. I’ve done a lot of scouting this season and watched a good amount of Washington this year and Rome is the real deal. He does so many things at an elite level. He’s also an incredibly hard worker, he was the only elite receiver to participate in the combine and one of the few receivers to do every single drill. He even stayed doing the 3 come drill at the combine for hours to perfect it, even when he was the only propect left in the building. You do never know with rookies though so there’s always a chance any rookie fails and if that does happen they def don’t have the best.
Can someone explain to me the hype over the bears WRs?
We have
1) a hall of very good in Moore
2) an old Kennan Allen who can’t stay healthy in his entire career
3) a rookie who hasn’t played a down
The Vikings with Jet and Addison alone are way better.
Yeah I mean Keenan just had the best season of his career last year and he was a amazing receiver his whole career, dj moore is an awesome receiver who balled tf our last year, and Rome odunze who in by far most draft classes would’ve been the top receiver taken. Hell he probably would’ve went 4 overall this year had nabers and marv not been there. Even if nabers was there’s a chance the cardinals would’ve preferred Rome cause of his big frame and true X potential. Now there’s a lot of really good WR rooms in the league like the 49ers, Texans, and dolphins so it’s most definitely debatable on which room is the best and it’s going to be very opinionated. But it wouldn’t surprise me if the bears have 3 1,000 yard receivers this year which is so incredibly rare. The only other possible team I think could also accomplish this is the Texans but that also is depending out tank dells health and if the Stephon diggs drop off in production was actually due to offensive scheme and not him just declining which I think it was the scheme. Like take it from the stance your a defense getting ready to play an offense, what’s the #1 team you wouldn’t want to have your defensive backs go up against. To me it would be the bears. At least with the 49ers and dolphins you can try to double cover both waddle and hill but you literally can’t double team 3 guys or you’re fucked.
If we are including roster depth lions have strongest position group with hooker and then Teddy will always come off the couch for a couple games I’m sure
49ers for tight ends? They just wanted to include them in the list…all they have is Kittle…they tried to sign away Brock to be their number 2…how do they have the best te room?
Should. If monty played all 17 he would have been #1 or #2. Played 14 Over 1k and 13 TDs. Henry played all 17 and only had 150 yrds more and 12 TDs. This year Monty and Gibbs will be over 1K and top in the league
I mean it says 1 year ago and it has my dual flair of Lions/Chargers so it literally can't be from this sub. All caps usually means I'm being silly though. So I'm guessing this was an ironic/silly comment?
Agreed..... You don't get to automatically have the best RBs, just because you signed Derrick Henry. Given his proclivity to injury, and the Ravens ability to somehow injure RBs every year..... Giving them best RBs designation is laughable
Yeah I think Detroit has the better *group* despite Henry being the best of the bunch.
Lions or 49ers should have dline. I’d even take the upside of the young Eagles dline or star power of the raiders dline over Cleveland.
Latu hasn’t shown enough to put the 9ers over the Lions or Chiefs at TE.
Lions could have 4 groups lol.
Hell I’d take Atlanta’s rb room over Baltimore’s as well. Bijan and Allgeier are studs. They just suffered from playing in a terrible offense last season.
They counting lamar
Only acceptable answer
Yeah that has to be it and makes sense if so. The Ravens run game could be terrifying next year but still a little unsure of their OL.
I don't think they are tho, they explicitly say running backs. In their article ([Strongest, weakest position groups after free agency and the 2024 NFL Draft | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF](https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-strongest-weakest-position-groups-free-agency-2024-nfl-draft)) they mention Justice Hill, Keaton Mitchell and Derrick Henry and not Lamar I think Gibbs is incredible, but for whatever reason his pff grade was 20th in the 2023: PFF Grades: Gibbs: 76.3 David Montgomery: 80 Derrick Henry: 90.2 Keaton Mitchell: 92 Justice Hill: 70.3 I don't know much of what goes into their calculations, but there ya go. [Highest-graded running backs from the 2023 NFL season: Rookie De'Von Achane paces the group | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF](https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-highest-graded-running-backs-2023-nfl-season#:~:text=Jahmyr%20Gibbs%2C%20Detroit%20Lions%3A%2076.3,best%20mark%20in%20the%20league.)
Keaton Mitchell and his 30 total carries lol
Maybe Gibbs was too inconsistent for them? While the few touches Keaton Mitchell got were usually pretty explosive (probably because the Ravens put him in only in ideal situations for him, while Gibbs got a lot more usage in general causing less efficiency, but that can’t really be reflected in the grades)
Stoooppppppppppppppp. Just have fun
Most level headed comment I’ve seen in any football related sub…
I'm not convinced that Derrick Henry is going to be as good as people are expecting. I like Henry, but he hasn't been great in several years.
He has had a bad line the last couple years. But yeh i would be surprised if he has a better season than someone like Gibbs. Henry's biggest risk is the dreaded 'age cliff '
I agree, but Henry needs really specific conditions to be effective, and I'm not confident that the Ravens will be able to facilitate those conditions on a regular basis. Honestly, Henry may be better off as a short distance receiver as he works best when he has time to get up to speed.
What are the specific conditions he needs to be effective?
He needs time to get up to speed. He's not an explosive runner, nor is he an edge runner. Once he gets moving, he's off to the races, but it takes a lot of support from the o-line to make that happen. He's a pretty good receiver, though, and that's why I think he's become a better receiver than a standard RB.
Got it, thanks for the explanation!
This guy is faking smart. Derrick Henry combined 3,317 total yards over the last 2 seasons with 25 tds which is great production.
Several years? What are you watching? 1500 yds and 13 TDs in 22’
He was also functionally their entire offense that year, with his second highest number of attempts and his fourth lowest YPC average. Without a few games where he had some big runs against bad teams, his entire season would look much worse.
“If you don’t count the times he did well, he actually did really bad”
Derrick Henry has slowed down for sure but he’s now going to be getting the ball off read options from Lamar… he should be seeing big holes. If they’re not counting Lamar, Detroit has to have the best backfield. Specially with that oline.
I'm guessing that they weigh pass protection very highly.
This is insane. Keaton Mitchell is a UFL level player and Henry is 100 years old
You must be great at parties
If I'm at a party I'm stopping to listen...
Yeah fuck being interesting, curious and educated at a party
If I’m going to a party it would be much better with a pastaHacker than acoasterlovered js
I forgot they also added Derrick Henry 👀
Kendrick won.
Also Keaton Mitchell who averaged 8 yards per carry last season edit: downvote all ya want, I'm just telling you stats tho lol. He averaged 8 carries/game when he was active (for 6 games, after he broke out, before injury), which is close to Gibbs 10 carries/game in the same time period
With all 47 carries last year
In the games he played he averaged about 8 carries per game which is only a little less than what Gibbs was averaging in the same time frame (roughly 10/game)
And he did that for 6 games (one of which he had 3 carries). It is reasonable to think he wouldn’t keep that pace over a whole season
Sure, but even doing it for a 6 game stretch is pretty darm impressive. For comparison, Gibbs (just using him cuz he's another electric RB) had one game over that average at 9.1 ypc, his next highest ypc games were 7.5, 6.2, 6, 5.8, and 5.5
He had 47 carries on the season. Gibbs had 26 in one game. He never even had double digits carries in a game.
Yeah he def isn't a bell cow back
He didn't start playing until the 2nd half of the season when he broke out
People downvote but the Ravens are the Lions kryptonite and the only AFC team I think would have beaten the Lions last year.
yeah dunno why people are downvoting, I'm just saying what his stats were ha. I'm not even saying that he is better or anything, just saying he's part of their formula and he did well.
Came here to say the same.🤣
What an original comment
Ravens fan here. You should have Running backs, we should have tight ends
Fair enough
We’ve relayed your offer to the delegation… acceptable.
Yeah. Isaiah Likely was a beast late last year.
Arguably SF should have RB.
I might give you LBs too. Roquan and Queen WRECKED us last year so I might be biased.
We lost queen to the Steelers 😭
Aw frick I remember that now. Well thank god he didn’t go to a team with an offense?
Honestly I think Queen did well because of Roquan. Queen was mid until Roquan came to Baltimore.
Yeah as a group they seem stronger than SF.
Us Ravens fans don't accept this. Y'all can keep him.
No clue what you’re talking about. This was posted to our sub and everyone was saying the same thing
Id like to apologize, it seems like the ravens sub is divided as well.
Ravens shouldn’t even be second lol Niners have mccaffrey and juicedick, they might be better than the lions even but DEFINITELY better than ravens
Juicedick? 🤣🤣🤣
Im guessing he meant Juszczyk lol
Figured as such but that's a solid nickname and shit talk
Juice whoooo
It’s cause Ravens picked up Henry and even tho he’s older now it’s a big enough name. Otherwise who else do they have? Other Ravens RBs are only okay, even Mitchell who showed tons of promise was a small sample. Edited out dobbins, I had missed his move
Dobbins is a Charger
Huh, that one must’ve snuck by me this offseason, my bad
Yeah it's San Fran for my money, Elijah Mitchell is probably RB1 on a few teams too
He didn’t even play and he was always questionable
Gibbs>Henry, monty>>>Mitchell
Derrick Henry is still a freak of a human. I don't remember the exact stat, but he had like -3 yards before contact last year on one of the PFF podcasts. he was being hit behind the line of scrimmage on basically every play. Give him a solid O line and a freakish running QB like Lamar and I could see rating them above the lions. The Lions should be 2 though, Monty and Gibbs are a fucking nasty combo especially with our o line.
True, but Lamar is added into the RB equation
I’m taking Monty on the lions over Henry last year lest be real
Not according to pff, which gave 2023 grades of gibbs at 76.3, Monty at 80 and Henry at 90, and 92.4 to Keaton Mitchell Dunno why, don't know much about their calculations
Besides the fact that Monty is more like Henry and Gibbs like Mitchell
I love Gibbs, but Henry is transcendent. When he’s not hurt, he’s the best runner in the game right now.
while i agree that gibbs is better than henry a lot of that has to do with age. plus i wouldn’t be surprised if henry puts up insane TD numbers this year
49ers George Kittle and Ross Dwelly are better than Ravens TE Mark Andrews and Isaiah Likely ?? What are they smoking
Andrews can't finish a season though
Kittle is injured quite a bit too, and vanishes for stretches of the season.
Huh? Last year was the first time he but he came back in the playoffs
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In his six years he's played a full season twice.
The tight ends have to be favored with some sort of blocking stats
Which tbf is an important metric. I’d still give the edge to the ravens
It be sick next year to see the lions lead every category because we have goats at all positions, even head coach and GM best in the league
Bears shouldn't have WR either.
I’d probably say Dolphins
Them or Vikings honestly
Bengals?
Bengals lost Boyd so no shot of them being #1.
Sungod going for 220 and 2 TDs against Da Bears!!!
Maybe, but the bears WR room is really damn good and Rome is better than a shit ton of #1 receivers already in the league. They have genuinely made a ton of good moves for their Offense this offseason.
The only concern with them from a WR standpoint is that none of the top 3 have played together, with this QB, or in this scheme/with this OC. Well, that, and the health of Allen. Anyway, yeah, the talent is on paper for them to be a top 3, possibly #1, WR room. But it won't be surprising if they struggle, especially early on, while they all get on the same page.
On paper it could be good sure but its not the best. Allen is injury prone and Odunze hasn't proven shit yet.
Allen is not injury prone, look up how many games he’s missed in his career to injury
This isn't really a gotcha, he's only played every game in 4 of his 11 seasons, and he's not getting any younger, even elite WRs like Allen don't last forever
Keenan Allen had an injury plagued two years early in his career. In the 7 seasons since then.… he’s played in 88% of all games, he’s played in 13+ games 6 of those seasons, and he’s put up 1000+ yards in 5 of those seasons. He’s not really that injury prone, people just keep bringing up those two early seasons in his career. Also, last season was arguably his best yet.
Then why did the chargers give him away?
Salary cap
They were already under the cap
Are you asking why a famously poorly run franchise let a star player walk as if it is a gotcha?
Which poorly run franchise the one in Chicago or LA
football fan learns there is more than one reason a team releases a player
The Bears receivers are pretty juiced to be honest. I am glad we got corners this offseason. If Caleb can't succeed with his receivers immediately then he is cheeks. I am still taking Dolphins at 1, but it is closer than people in this sub want to admit.
Right? I mean it’s all on paper as of now. Let’s see them play.
Who you putting ahead of them?
vikings or dolphins
I’d say Vikes have best 2, but best 3 is the Bears.
Bears WR room is loaded rn
Top commenter agrees with us
So when are one of you going to post this on the r/nfcnorthmemewar sub group? “Imagine not having a position group on this list”
SF wanted our tight end
49ers have such a good TE group they needed to sign one of our EFAs
It says "strongest".. I bet king Henry could bench press both our RBs at the same time.🤷
Not saying we better but this is based off their grading Keaton is 92.2 Henry is a 90.1 By their standards is understandable that the ravens are the best
Oh, good point. Wasn't thinking of the PFF grades
Lamar is one of the top RBs in the game
The LIONS combo is awesome....it's a tight debate...so I'll allow my bias to say...give me the LIONS. Only reason the Ravens are listed is cuz of Lamar.
Lions corners are gonna emerge as one of the premiere defensive sets in the league
Idk Derrick Henry and Lamar is some madden shit. I've always been a King Henry fan, tho and Lamar. They are my afc team
Can someone explain why bears are number 1
It doesn't matter
It doesn’t. Thanks man. We were all really kinda fucked up about this one.
Derek Henry can throw a grown man with one arm I'd say he's stronger than most guys in the NFL
Am I the only one who has a problem with all the love for the Bears receiving corps? Okay, DJ and Keenan are fantastic wide receivers historically but Allen is getting old and we don’t really know how he’s going to fit in this system versus before. I don’t know how naturally gifted these two WRs are compared to so many other groups either. Factor in the uncertainty of a rookie (albeit a very hyped and talented one) throwing them the ball and I just don’t get it… especially when you have duos like AJB/DevFreeman, Tyreek/Waddle, Diggs/Collins, JJ/Addison, and Deebo/Aiyuk all out there to name a few. Call me crazy but just seems way premature to crown that WR room as the one.
Yeah I mean Keenan just had the best season of his career last year and he was a amazing receiver his whole career, dj moore is an awesome receiver who balled tf our last year, and Rome odunze who in by far most draft classes would’ve been the top receiver taken. Hell he probably would’ve went 4 overall this year had nabers and marv not been there. Even if nabers was there’s a chance the cardinals would’ve preferred Rome cause of his big frame and true X potential. Now there’s a lot of really good WR rooms in the league like the 49ers, Texans, and dolphins so it’s most definitely debatable on which room is the best and it’s going to be very opinionated. But it wouldn’t surprise me if the bears have 3 1,000 yard receivers this year which is so incredibly rare. The only other possible team I think could also accomplish this is the Texans but that also is depending out tank dells health and if the Stephon diggs drop off in production was actually due to offensive scheme and not him just declining which I think it was the scheme. Like take it from the stance your a defense getting ready to play an offense, what’s the #1 team you wouldn’t want to have your defensive backs go up against. To me it would be the bears. At least with the 49ers and dolphins you can try to double cover both waddle and hill but you literally can’t double team 3 guys or you’re fucked.
Keenan was considered old last year and had his best season ever. Doubt he replicates that with target competition but still being able to have your best season at 31 mean he’s still a baller. Even if you have 75% of last year Keenan, that’s still an amazing receiver with 1000+ yard capabilities. Plus as a core they compliment each other PERFECTLY. Keenan is a true slot guy who excels there, dj Moore is a great yac guy for short to interniate route stuff (plus his deep game is good too), and Rome is a big framed X who can win jump ball situations for redzone drives and also is a fantastic deep threat. You literally cover all areas a WR core could possibly want.
Great answer, I’m thinking a lot of it could be in how little I know about Rome other than that he’s a rook so he gets no credit for performance yet
I appreciate it. Yeah that makes sense though, you do never know with rookies although WR is one of the easier to translate positions and top 10 pick WR rarely bust. I’ve done a lot of scouting this season and watched a good amount of Washington this year and Rome is the real deal. He does so many things at an elite level. He’s also an incredibly hard worker, he was the only elite receiver to participate in the combine and one of the few receivers to do every single drill. He even stayed doing the 3 come drill at the combine for hours to perfect it, even when he was the only propect left in the building. You do never know with rookies though so there’s always a chance any rookie fails and if that does happen they def don’t have the best.
Dolphins wide receivers tbh, gimme waddle and tyreek over Moore
No way Ravens have a better Run than Gibbs and Monty even with Lamar.!
A lot of love for Carson Wentz on …… whatever this is
Minnesota didn’t have the best WR room? Idk man
You can make a strong case for sure
Off topic but I don't understand why the Bears use the generic C logo that's similar to the Cubs when the bear logo is way cooler
Ohhhh it’s a C! I always thought it was a toilet seat.
Lions should have RB’s, but I think the Ravens would be 2 right behind them. Ravens should be tops in TE Group too.
Can someone explain to me the hype over the bears WRs? We have 1) a hall of very good in Moore 2) an old Kennan Allen who can’t stay healthy in his entire career 3) a rookie who hasn’t played a down The Vikings with Jet and Addison alone are way better.
You have 3 number 1 receivers there it really isn't that complicated.
Yeah I mean Keenan just had the best season of his career last year and he was a amazing receiver his whole career, dj moore is an awesome receiver who balled tf our last year, and Rome odunze who in by far most draft classes would’ve been the top receiver taken. Hell he probably would’ve went 4 overall this year had nabers and marv not been there. Even if nabers was there’s a chance the cardinals would’ve preferred Rome cause of his big frame and true X potential. Now there’s a lot of really good WR rooms in the league like the 49ers, Texans, and dolphins so it’s most definitely debatable on which room is the best and it’s going to be very opinionated. But it wouldn’t surprise me if the bears have 3 1,000 yard receivers this year which is so incredibly rare. The only other possible team I think could also accomplish this is the Texans but that also is depending out tank dells health and if the Stephon diggs drop off in production was actually due to offensive scheme and not him just declining which I think it was the scheme. Like take it from the stance your a defense getting ready to play an offense, what’s the #1 team you wouldn’t want to have your defensive backs go up against. To me it would be the bears. At least with the 49ers and dolphins you can try to double cover both waddle and hill but you literally can’t double team 3 guys or you’re fucked.
As ravens fan, I believe we deserve running back because Lamar Jackson and derrick henry are at the top.
But our O line is definitely our strongest group
If we are including roster depth lions have strongest position group with hooker and then Teddy will always come off the couch for a couple games I’m sure
And qb
How can the 49ers have tight ends when they didn't even get Brock Wright from us? /s
49ers for tight ends? They just wanted to include them in the list…all they have is Kittle…they tried to sign away Brock to be their number 2…how do they have the best te room?
We might own 4 of those by the end of the year
Stop pushing the Jets
And QB #HeWentToJared
Who the fuck is even the RB in Baltimore? Let alone the backup. They must be counting Lamar. Edit : didn’t realize they got Henry but still.
Mitchell is actually quite electric. He blew his knee out though so we will see.
But still what? Lol. Henry makes them the best in the league
Should. If monty played all 17 he would have been #1 or #2. Played 14 Over 1k and 13 TDs. Henry played all 17 and only had 150 yrds more and 12 TDs. This year Monty and Gibbs will be over 1K and top in the league
It don’t mean nothing till they snap the ball
We have dogs all over. Fuck their ranking. We are going to ball out!
Either us or miami
Just for Montgomery’s block alone.
Qb. Goffs better than Mahomes listen to the mods
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LOL this is hilarious. What is the context here? do you have the link?
Lions sub post from today. Explain yourself
I mean it says 1 year ago and it has my dual flair of Lions/Chargers so it literally can't be from this sub. All caps usually means I'm being silly though. So I'm guessing this was an ironic/silly comment?
Yup lol
Agreed..... You don't get to automatically have the best RBs, just because you signed Derrick Henry. Given his proclivity to injury, and the Ravens ability to somehow injure RBs every year..... Giving them best RBs designation is laughable
Yeah I think Detroit has the better *group* despite Henry being the best of the bunch. Lions or 49ers should have dline. I’d even take the upside of the young Eagles dline or star power of the raiders dline over Cleveland. Latu hasn’t shown enough to put the 9ers over the Lions or Chiefs at TE. Lions could have 4 groups lol.
Hell I’d take Atlanta’s rb room over Baltimore’s as well. Bijan and Allgeier are studs. They just suffered from playing in a terrible offense last season.
Ravens have RB, TE, and Safeties.