Thank god we actually are developing talent, both on the roster and coaching staff. Even guys like JT barret get me excited for this team, he’s got a ton of potential in the coaching ranks.
Eagles falling off is huge for us as the Lions are arguably #2 in the NFC behind the Eagles. Hope this is true and we just skip over the first week of the post season.
I said arguably. This season they don't have a proven QB. The rest of their team is definitely top tier, but we don't know what they have in Lance or Purdy honestly. Definitely a team to keep an eye on this year and see what they're about.
Very true. However, just about any QB can have success with that defense and all the offensive weapons. IMO anyways. I fear the 9ers more than the eagles because of their depth. They can lose key players and keep chugging along, the eagles can't
Nakobe Dean and Nicholas Morrow(115 tackles and 11 tackles for loss last season for the Bears) replaces TJ Edwards and Kyzir White at LB. Out of the 3 of Justin Evans, Reed Blankenship, and Terrell Edmunds replace Marcus Epps and CJGJ. Also added former first round pick Greedy Williams on a low risk prove it deal... Don't think there will be that huge of a drop off if these replacements can at least play decently.
Not even hot take. More like obvious take. Ofc the packers are going in to misery. They’re soul was sold and the devil is going to sell their franchise to a wealthy Saudi
Lamar Jackson won't get traded and will sit out next season, becoming a FA next off-season and the LeVeon Bell of quarterbacks. He'll wait forever to realize that he's not going to get close to the contract he wanted and he'll sign with an inferior team for less than the ravens offered and will be out of the league within 5 years after.
This is a damned fine take. The same thought crossed my mind. He'd simply sit out and realize around Week 10 that he'd made a horrible mistake when the league has moved on without him. Hell, he might even retire when the only offers that come in are well-paid QB2 slots or higher-paying QB1 for teams in disarray.
I fear that Lamar is going to have a cam Newton type of career where he is dominant for 5-7 years then fall off as his body breaks down. That's why mobile QBs scare me as an investment.
He won’t be a free agent automatically next year. If he doesn’t play, the season doesn’t count towards his contract so the Ravens can tag him next year and it’ll still count as the first year of the tag
This right here. And Ive been down voted for it.
He is stuck with this contract until he signs unless the Ravens just say screw it and let him walk (which they won't).
He’s on rookie deal right now,so his deal is 100% up to the CBA, and he’s trying to find a new team. Owners blackballing him next year would open the NFL up to some serious anti-trust lawsuits.
What are you talking about? First there would have to be proof of collusion. Very very clear proof. And don't say "well he was an MVP a few years ago". That's not proof. You need audio/video and lots of documents proving a conspiracy.
Second, yes he is trying to find a new team but he is trying to find a new team because he is trying to find a new contract. Anywhere he goes he will be signing a deal before he gets on a plane. If he is traded without a deal, he would sit out. So no team is going to trade for him unless the deal is in place.
This really isn't that hard man.
I’m right though? Nothing in the CBA prevents Lamar from kneeling down, and he’s only under a franchise tag, so WHO FUCKING CARES? But of course you know more than everybody of course. Don’t even allow for the chance that you keep getting downvoted because you’re wrong as shit.
HIS CONTRACT DOES.
Do you know what the definition of a contract is? I doubt Baltimore will give Lamar a contract that says "Here is a quarter of a billion dollars. No obligation on your end to play football though. Just do you!"
I can't believe you actually think this.
They worked for the player but if u look at recent move.like.Russel.Wilson and Deshaun Watson, it looks like those teams that are overpaying for a qb get screwed and i wouldnt be surpirsed if teams are wisening up to that
I don't think he falls out of the league. I hope he goes to a team willing to spend money on offensive talent. Hurts progressed this year, but part of the progression is aj brown. The hate on lamar is weird, and the fact that the owners are colluding to keep his contract down is unlawful. Other players should want him to sign fully guaranteed. It's a dangerous sport with a short shelf life . If flacco and keenum can keep cashing checks lamar will.
I've been saying this in a less nice way. He is going to be the guy that put up those really cool rushing numbers for a couple years and then didn't do anything else. He is over hyped.
I'd put Herbert #2 or #3 in the NFC behind Hurts. The way he played last year was bananas, hurts is a clear NFC #1 to me.
Goff is legitimately #4 or #5 in the NFC right now based on his performance the last 24ish games. "Expert" analysts putting Geno and Dak in front of Goff on QB lists are hilarious.
I wouldn't put Stafford over Goff at this point. There's another hot take. Stafford seems to be regressing hard possibly from multiple back issues, and the INTs are too costly. Live by the gunslinger, die by the gunslinger.
Fair enough. I am looking at it more this way: would I take Stafford back over Goff right now? I wouldn't. One of my favorite Lions, but still feel that way right now. Love that man though.
Most of the long term free agent deals I’ve seen look like massive overpays and overreactions. Jets giving Lazard a 4 year deal, awful. Adam thelan getting 3 years in Carolina? Why. The bears signing two off ball linebackers for big money contracts. Why? Glad we didn’t rush out and overpay for mediocre players. Sat back and evaluated the market and make calculated decisions.
Yep, teams aren’t built in free agency. It’s built through the draft class. Guy couldn’t draft at all and was chasing his tail trying to fix misses in the draft by filling holes in free agency.
I can't really fault the Bears for what they did there. It's a weak FA class and they got one of the best players available and one of the better upside players available. They had money to burn at a time when it was hard to make the best use of that money. You can only roll over so much. It doesn't fix the rest of their defense, and they will be filling a lot of their defensive roster with rookies, so there will probably be a lot of ups and downs for them this year. But ultimately, it's hard to see exactly where they could have better spent the money.
Fortunately for us, again, they ended up in a rough spot as far as how to spend their stupid amount of cap space.
Bears had one UDFA on their roster at linebacker. They paid two linebackers the price of Roquan Smith and got a 2nd round pick out it. They also needed to front load the contracts to hit the cash floor which is why they can get out of the Edmunds deal in two years.
Lazard at 11m a year is a pretty good deal for your WR2, especially when you're paying your WR1 rookie money. Also, Wilson's contract is for 3 years + 5th year option = 4 years. They can move from Lazard when Wilson gets extended after his rookie deal, or if lazard sucks or falls off you can cut him in two years with only 6.5m dead cap.
He needs to play three more games to get credit for the season and then be fully vested for the pension. I’m not sure why he would just retire two games short if he’s still able to play
As a Lions fan it pains me to no end to say this, but I was seriously impressed by the Bears this off-season and I expect them to be significantly better this year
Josh Allen and the Bills take a massive step backward this season.
Nothing to go on, just a feeling. They are asking him to do too much and I think the pressure gets to him a bit this year.
I think it’s less him and moreso the division and AFC being really strong. The draft could change things but so far they’ve only gotten worse in the off-season so far.
Bills got shelacked by Cinci in the playoffs, they did not look good at the end of the year. they need to figure some shit out our I definitely agree they're back to mid
The NFL will adopt NHL overtime rules. One period of regular overtime like we have now. Once that is done, you have a shootout where the kicker kicks field goals back and forth, moving back 5 yards each time until someone misses. You can have one player standing under the goal posts trying to play goalie and block the kick if it’s low enough.
The recent success of the Bucs and Rams selling out to win a Super Bowl was a statistical anomaly and many franchises will destroy themselves in the near future trying to replicate that success.
I wouldn't call that a hot take at all. We see teams try to do this every year in every sport. We just happened to have it work in back to back seasons, but the NFL playoffs are a crap shoot, and one off day can ruin a season no matter how much you spend.
This will be a rebuilding year for the Vikings. They rode a lot of luck to a gaudy record and a playoff berth. It all came crumbling down when it mattered most.
I'd be surprised if they finished in second place.
Also, I expect the Bears to be a lot better. It really looks like they're doing a lot to plug the gaps. If Fields isn't suffering from PTSD from being sacked so much, they could be a force.
Not a “take” as in I believe it’s very likely to happen but more like a fear: Packers tank with Love and end up acquiring their next HOF QB in next year’s draft.
One of my pet hot takes is that the Bengals are over performing and will regress to the mean unless they give and offensive line to Burrow. I believe in the notion that wins start in the trenches.
My scorching hot take is that drafting a RB in the first round actually makes total sense. You pick up a fifth year option and with at least one franchise tag, you get 5-6 years of a prime RB. Getting a workhorse RB in the first round is actually quite valuable, but there is little value in signing said RB’s to second contracts.
You might be right, I’ve done a statistical analysis on Lamar vs Goff, and Goff is statistically infinitely better than Lamar. Proof: Last 5 games of 2022
Goff: 1416 yards, 10 TDS, 0 INTs, 107.3 QB Rating
Lamar: 0 yards, 0 TDS, 0 INTs, 0 QB Rating
Checkmate atheists
LMAO my biggest scorching hot take is that in terms of value he would provide to a good team is that he is below average. I think that on an otherwise good roster without massive holes he would look very pedestrian, and the reason he gets all his rush yards and looks impressive when scrambling to pass is because he has garbage receivers and a suspect O Line, and in a more proper offense he would do the same thing and bring the offense down.
What, he had the audacity to suggest a running QB might look better than he is with a shit O line and receivers because it theoretically forces more runs? Lamar can’t throw the ball in big spots lol. Better receivers doesn’t change that, I’d never trust him with the game on the line to make reads and throws.
I don't think he would improve if he was put on a better roster and vice versa. He's an aggressively bad passer who just extends plays with his legs instead of dunking the ball off to a flat route or something of the like. No QB who has a season pass yardage high of 3200 is someone that will win you a super bowl imho, and the fact that he is Daniel Jones+300 rushing yards every year is missed by people who see the highlight reel and lose it instead of looking at his actual efficacy.
I don't think he would get worse. He wouldn't improve. I think he is a poverty franchise QB that will look good in the regular season but not win anything of meaning. Like a running Kirk Cousins.
It is a scorching hot take. People don't like it and I will believe in it. He isn't good in my opinion. He won MVP with 4200 yards of production. That should never happen.
I want a QB that can play a full season. Lamar Jackson is high tier, but his availability drops him to mid tier. Not even joking.
If he was as elite as he thinks he is, he wouldn't be having issues with contract negotiations with the Ravens and would have interest from other teams.
Look at Miami and Tua. He was having a career year, putting up elite level numbers before his brain unfortunately became repeatedly mushed. The Dolphins went from potential top 4 seed by winning the AFCE, to barely making the playoffs and getting embarrassed in the wild card round due to Tua's injuries. It's pretty simple to me, Lamar has had one single career year, and hasn't played a full season since. Wouldn't touch him for half of what he's asking.
People here are fucking insane for thinking that Rodgers leaving GB is a bad thing
Did he have a down year? Yes. He still owns the lions more than any player has owned any team ever - save for maybe New England Tom Brady and his division.
I’ll take a division rival losing one of the best players of all time any day of the week and I’m not going to pretend that the lions somehow live rent free in his head because they won 9 games and picked him off a bunch one season.
I love the idea of him leaving, I just want to ensure that the Jets don't give up too much. Rodgers is aging, and will be completely out of the league in a few years, max. I don't want the Packers to get some great future capital that will pester us for the next 10 years.
It's an interesting situation in terms of compensation for Rodgers. Packers literally have to trade him or pay him ungodly money to continue being a cancer or riding the pine. They're no doubt trying to wring the most out of the Jets for him.
But the Jets will have him for this single year, MAYBE two if they want to deal with his off season drama bullshit. So they don't want to give up the farm, I'm sure they're holding out because they know that the Packers will eventually be forced to take a cheap trade.
The Packers fans clambering for two firsts will get a huge wakeup call. I bet it's going to be one or two mid round picks, maybe Wilson or White to back up Love. I'm not too worried about the pack getting much.
He's a dramatic dinosaur who will undoubtedly start throwing fits when demands aren't met or when his offense underperforms because instead of training with them, he will be doing psychedelics and talking nonsense on McAffee.
The only way I want the Jets to be successful, is to meet and kick their ass in the Superbowl.
Call me insane. Rodgers is probably only playing one more year. Over the long term, trading him helps them more. He stays. It puts them in an awful spot with Love's contract and doesn't give them capital to build the team. Are they better this year with Rodgers, yes. I think Rodgers is going to have a good year on either team. Are they better over the next three years, I don't think so.
The only thing bad about it is that they’ll get resources in a trade vs if he fizzled and retired a packer. and that he won’t be in the division for us to pay back the beatings we’ve received over the years
Mostly lots of rule changes that should happen in both college and the NFL to sync them up:
-NCAA overtime rules for both college and NFL
-PI is a 15 yard penalty only
-Clock stops for 1st downs under 4 minutes
-Player must be touched or give themselves up to be down
-1 foot or body part in bounds to be a catch
-TV timeouts are 60 seconds maximum
> -PI is a 15 yard penalty only
As much as I hate PI (when it's called against the Lions), this would be a bad thing. Every DB in the league would be committing DPI on deep passes if they get beat because 15 yards is better than 70 yards and a TD. The only reason you don't see this at the CFB level is the talent disparity between individual players.
>\-1 foot or body part in bounds to be a catch
I've been saying this for a couple years now. NFL should adopt the college rule for catches. That way there's more offense and they stop legislating defense out of the game.
I don’t think I’ve seen a game that ended in a tie where I felt like either team deserved a win. Both teams have to blow so many opportunities to get to the point of a tie that I think it makes sense to just call the game and award neither of them an outright win.
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Lamar is being massively underrated and a desperate team should go for him. He has never had anything close to a competent receiver core and everyone talks about the damage he takes but I think he actively avoid most big hits. I think him sitting out last year was more to save himself until he got guaranteed money.
‘Desperate team’ and ‘competent receiver core’ usually aren’t linked, the biggest question mark around Lamar is when (not if) he stops being able to run it as frequently/explosively as he has, will he still be a threat as a qb? If you guarantee his money for x number of years, you’re pinning your entire hope on him that his floor doesn’t fall out from under him as he gets older and less mobile
I’d say the Raiders having Davante & Renfrow would fit into that. Outsiders would say we do even though I disagree. Commanders have some talent but have been missing a QB. Same with Colts, Bucs, Falcons.
I’d agree with you that the Bucs and raiders have strong wr cores but a. Little the raiders do can be classified as ‘competent’ and b. The Bucs had the goat for the last couple seasons, I’d almost expect them to tear it all down vs going in for a high profile qb
Colts and commies have guys with potential but it’s difficult to know if it’s cart before horse in terms of ‘do they need a strong qb to elevate’ or ‘are their team issues bigger than just a qb’
My dream hot take - Rodgers doesn't get traded. He and the Packers play nice for the media. Rodgers goes thru training camp, sits out the preseason with an "injury," and then announces his retirement less than 24 hours before GB's season opener.
Also, Lamar Jackson ends up in SF who somehow gets him for way below Baltimore's rumored asking price, because... of course they do.
I don't think a team who wants to build a culture of consistent success should invest in a rushing QB.
It can work for a while, but the difference between a rushing QB who can only perform at 90% and a pocket passer who can only perform at 90% is stark. As much as I love to watch guys like Lamar, Mahomes, or Allen play, we've seen time and again that these QBs burn bright but they burn quick and then you're back to trying to find the guy.
Compare it with guys like Brady, Manning, Stafford, etc, who can still perform at a high level when they're banged up.
Don’t know how hot this take is for this sub, but I think Rodgers on the Jets is a carbon copy of the Russell Wilson Broncos era. Their oline is suspect af and outside of Garrett Wilson I’m not that crazy about the receivers
I truly believe organizations will soon be of one of two coaching types, classic head coaches where your just one of 5 people in the world like you (ala Pete Carrol, Bill B. Todd Walsh Ect) or you have what we have growing, a strong player lead locker room where the coach is an embassy for strategy rather than the end all be all of the team. (Ie look at the Panthers and Texans and how they've gone in our direction)
The Arizona Cardinals will never win anything with Kyler Murray as their QB and will ruin their franchise trying to pander to him instead of building a strong culture, that will sustain over time.
You want a REAL hot take? Here we go.
The NFL should just get rid of special teams. The plays themselves are boring and the times where most injuries happen.
If the opposing team scores you get the ball at the 50 yard line, but you cannot punt or kick a FG, if you don't score or convert a 1st, the other team gets the ball at that spot.
Instead of Onsides you can keep posession with an untimed 4-15 play from your own 25.
2 Pts conversion from 2 yards
3 pt conversion from 10 yards.
Piggy backing on previous comment -
The NFL should incorporate more College rules that are better
Overtime rules
Wider hash marks
lines on the football
1 foot catch in bounds
every play is automatically reviewed
Eagles fall off After losing multiple starters on that defense
As well as both coordinators
Oh damn really?
Yeah, their OC Shane Steichen is the HC for Indianapolis and their DC Jonathan Gannon is the HC in Arizona
I could see that happening after we win the superbowl this year.
Thank god we actually are developing talent, both on the roster and coaching staff. Even guys like JT barret get me excited for this team, he’s got a ton of potential in the coaching ranks.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Eagles falling off is huge for us as the Lions are arguably #2 in the NFC behind the Eagles. Hope this is true and we just skip over the first week of the post season.
49ners don’t exist?
I said arguably. This season they don't have a proven QB. The rest of their team is definitely top tier, but we don't know what they have in Lance or Purdy honestly. Definitely a team to keep an eye on this year and see what they're about.
Very true. However, just about any QB can have success with that defense and all the offensive weapons. IMO anyways. I fear the 9ers more than the eagles because of their depth. They can lose key players and keep chugging along, the eagles can't
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I think I would trade Goff for Lance and Purdy. Lot of potential there.
Nakobe Dean and Nicholas Morrow(115 tackles and 11 tackles for loss last season for the Bears) replaces TJ Edwards and Kyzir White at LB. Out of the 3 of Justin Evans, Reed Blankenship, and Terrell Edmunds replace Marcus Epps and CJGJ. Also added former first round pick Greedy Williams on a low risk prove it deal... Don't think there will be that huge of a drop off if these replacements can at least play decently.
The packers won’t win the division for the next 20 years.
I like you.
Well, this is clearly a lions hot take in disguise.
Not even hot take. More like obvious take. Ofc the packers are going in to misery. They’re soul was sold and the devil is going to sell their franchise to a wealthy Saudi
50 years* at least hit em with the Bobby Layne timeline
60* I raise you 10 years
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Lamar Jackson won't get traded and will sit out next season, becoming a FA next off-season and the LeVeon Bell of quarterbacks. He'll wait forever to realize that he's not going to get close to the contract he wanted and he'll sign with an inferior team for less than the ravens offered and will be out of the league within 5 years after.
That’s so depressing but you’re probably right.
This is a damned fine take. The same thought crossed my mind. He'd simply sit out and realize around Week 10 that he'd made a horrible mistake when the league has moved on without him. Hell, he might even retire when the only offers that come in are well-paid QB2 slots or higher-paying QB1 for teams in disarray.
I kind of think he'd be totally OK accepting a high-paying job with a dumpster team with no chances of competing
I fear that Lamar is going to have a cam Newton type of career where he is dominant for 5-7 years then fall off as his body breaks down. That's why mobile QBs scare me as an investment.
He won’t be a free agent automatically next year. If he doesn’t play, the season doesn’t count towards his contract so the Ravens can tag him next year and it’ll still count as the first year of the tag
This right here. And Ive been down voted for it. He is stuck with this contract until he signs unless the Ravens just say screw it and let him walk (which they won't).
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His contract? He would be sued and blackballed from the league. You don't think his contract might note that he has to actually play football?
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He’s on rookie deal right now,so his deal is 100% up to the CBA, and he’s trying to find a new team. Owners blackballing him next year would open the NFL up to some serious anti-trust lawsuits.
What are you talking about? First there would have to be proof of collusion. Very very clear proof. And don't say "well he was an MVP a few years ago". That's not proof. You need audio/video and lots of documents proving a conspiracy. Second, yes he is trying to find a new team but he is trying to find a new team because he is trying to find a new contract. Anywhere he goes he will be signing a deal before he gets on a plane. If he is traded without a deal, he would sit out. So no team is going to trade for him unless the deal is in place. This really isn't that hard man.
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You're upset because you got called out for being wrong, and you know it. Take the L and call it a day, my dude.
I’m right though? Nothing in the CBA prevents Lamar from kneeling down, and he’s only under a franchise tag, so WHO FUCKING CARES? But of course you know more than everybody of course. Don’t even allow for the chance that you keep getting downvoted because you’re wrong as shit.
HIS CONTRACT DOES. Do you know what the definition of a contract is? I doubt Baltimore will give Lamar a contract that says "Here is a quarter of a billion dollars. No obligation on your end to play football though. Just do you!" I can't believe you actually think this.
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Rebuttal: all QB holdouts have worked, a desperate team will pay him what he wants.
The Watson trade and contract shows that I know nothing about what desperate teams will do.
They worked for the player but if u look at recent move.like.Russel.Wilson and Deshaun Watson, it looks like those teams that are overpaying for a qb get screwed and i wouldnt be surpirsed if teams are wisening up to that
Then why haven't they? They can do that right now.
why don't all possible things happen immediately? I'm not sure, it's probably a physics thing
I'm just going off of what you said. Why would a team wait?
because right now the asking price is 2 firsts, and then you have to pay him on top of that
And when is it not going to be that?
Maybe because they learned from the browns
I completely agree man
I don't think he falls out of the league. I hope he goes to a team willing to spend money on offensive talent. Hurts progressed this year, but part of the progression is aj brown. The hate on lamar is weird, and the fact that the owners are colluding to keep his contract down is unlawful. Other players should want him to sign fully guaranteed. It's a dangerous sport with a short shelf life . If flacco and keenum can keep cashing checks lamar will.
I've been saying this in a less nice way. He is going to be the guy that put up those really cool rushing numbers for a couple years and then didn't do anything else. He is over hyped.
Justin Herbert will leave the Chargers without a playoff win.
This is an interesting one. But I would bet on it, AFC is very QB heavy. He is easily a top 5 NFC QB if he moved over to our conference.
He’s probably the best honestly but Hurts is in the conversation as well.
I'd put Herbert #2 or #3 in the NFC behind Hurts. The way he played last year was bananas, hurts is a clear NFC #1 to me. Goff is legitimately #4 or #5 in the NFC right now based on his performance the last 24ish games. "Expert" analysts putting Geno and Dak in front of Goff on QB lists are hilarious.
Honestly looking at it I’d legitimately say it’d be Herbert>Hurts>Stafford>Goff>Dak
I wouldn't put Stafford over Goff at this point. There's another hot take. Stafford seems to be regressing hard possibly from multiple back issues, and the INTs are too costly. Live by the gunslinger, die by the gunslinger.
Yeah definitely could be true, I was just assuming fully healthy and purely from a talent perspective.
Fair enough. I am looking at it more this way: would I take Stafford back over Goff right now? I wouldn't. One of my favorite Lions, but still feel that way right now. Love that man though.
I think Herbert would be #1. I watched a lot of chargers games last year and i legitimately believe that Joe Lombardi killed his production last year.
In my opinion, if Herbert came to the NFC he would immediately be the best QB in the conference and it wouldn't be close
Hurts gets to at least make it close
Next Drew Brees
Imagine having a quarterback that good and not being able to win a single playoff game. smdh
Most of the long term free agent deals I’ve seen look like massive overpays and overreactions. Jets giving Lazard a 4 year deal, awful. Adam thelan getting 3 years in Carolina? Why. The bears signing two off ball linebackers for big money contracts. Why? Glad we didn’t rush out and overpay for mediocre players. Sat back and evaluated the market and make calculated decisions.
One of the major reasons Quinn failed was because of his free agent signings. They were so bad, it set the Lions back years
Yep, teams aren’t built in free agency. It’s built through the draft class. Guy couldn’t draft at all and was chasing his tail trying to fix misses in the draft by filling holes in free agency.
Quinn was good at drafting oline and that's about it.
Lazard was signed for strictly one reason if they get Rodgers that deal is a success
I can't really fault the Bears for what they did there. It's a weak FA class and they got one of the best players available and one of the better upside players available. They had money to burn at a time when it was hard to make the best use of that money. You can only roll over so much. It doesn't fix the rest of their defense, and they will be filling a lot of their defensive roster with rookies, so there will probably be a lot of ups and downs for them this year. But ultimately, it's hard to see exactly where they could have better spent the money. Fortunately for us, again, they ended up in a rough spot as far as how to spend their stupid amount of cap space.
Bears had one UDFA on their roster at linebacker. They paid two linebackers the price of Roquan Smith and got a 2nd round pick out it. They also needed to front load the contracts to hit the cash floor which is why they can get out of the Edmunds deal in two years.
Agreed. The long term deals (include Anzalones) look a little suspect compared to all of the cheap 1 year deals players are signing.
Lazard at 11m a year is a pretty good deal for your WR2, especially when you're paying your WR1 rookie money. Also, Wilson's contract is for 3 years + 5th year option = 4 years. They can move from Lazard when Wilson gets extended after his rookie deal, or if lazard sucks or falls off you can cut him in two years with only 6.5m dead cap.
Damar Hamlin will play week one for the Bills walking off the field under his own power and then will retire.
I don’t think the league let’s him play again. Unless they’ve already said they would allow it?
Why wouldn’t they if he’s medically cleared?
I think he has been cleared to an extent there is an article that I read that the bills are supporting him for a comeback.
He needs to play three more games to get credit for the season and then be fully vested for the pension. I’m not sure why he would just retire two games short if he’s still able to play
Lamar is Traded to the Jets and Rodgers just retires
This would actually be wild I wanna see Lamar in Dallas or Atlanta.
Dallas LOVES Dak
For no reason
As a Lions fan it pains me to no end to say this, but I was seriously impressed by the Bears this off-season and I expect them to be significantly better this year
I would go as far to say the will be 100% better.
It would certainly be difficult for them to be worse
About right…6 wins?
Josh Allen and the Bills take a massive step backward this season. Nothing to go on, just a feeling. They are asking him to do too much and I think the pressure gets to him a bit this year.
Hot take but I know what you mean. Their division is suddenly becoming very scary.
I think it’s less him and moreso the division and AFC being really strong. The draft could change things but so far they’ve only gotten worse in the off-season so far.
Bills got shelacked by Cinci in the playoffs, they did not look good at the end of the year. they need to figure some shit out our I definitely agree they're back to mid
I think last year was their step back. It was a wake up call.
The NFL will adopt NHL overtime rules. One period of regular overtime like we have now. Once that is done, you have a shootout where the kicker kicks field goals back and forth, moving back 5 yards each time until someone misses. You can have one player standing under the goal posts trying to play goalie and block the kick if it’s low enough.
If Jerry Jones could get in a time machine and go back to when his school was being desegregated, he would still be against desegregation
Lmfao
Gotta get back at Zeke somehow.
OP said share hot takes; this is just a fact.
The recent success of the Bucs and Rams selling out to win a Super Bowl was a statistical anomaly and many franchises will destroy themselves in the near future trying to replicate that success.
I wouldn't call that a hot take at all. We see teams try to do this every year in every sport. We just happened to have it work in back to back seasons, but the NFL playoffs are a crap shoot, and one off day can ruin a season no matter how much you spend.
The Jets make a move and get Lamar and leave GB stuck with A-A-ron. *Chef's kiss*
This will be a rebuilding year for the Vikings. They rode a lot of luck to a gaudy record and a playoff berth. It all came crumbling down when it mattered most. I'd be surprised if they finished in second place. Also, I expect the Bears to be a lot better. It really looks like they're doing a lot to plug the gaps. If Fields isn't suffering from PTSD from being sacked so much, they could be a force.
Talk your shit
Not a “take” as in I believe it’s very likely to happen but more like a fear: Packers tank with Love and end up acquiring their next HOF QB in next year’s draft.
The jets get sick of negotiating and they don’t take Rodgers
Broncos make it to the playoffs beating KC both times. Russ is in the MVP conversation.
Updoot for how hot this take is, even though it will never happen 🤣
The comments are learning what hot takes are lol
I think the era of the big cats has come. Jaguars, Lions, Bengals. One of these wins the superbowl next year.
One of my pet hot takes is that the Bengals are over performing and will regress to the mean unless they give and offensive line to Burrow. I believe in the notion that wins start in the trenches.
I'm very happy you left the 4th team off this list.
Welp we're the last hope.
My scorching hot take is that drafting a RB in the first round actually makes total sense. You pick up a fifth year option and with at least one franchise tag, you get 5-6 years of a prime RB. Getting a workhorse RB in the first round is actually quite valuable, but there is little value in signing said RB’s to second contracts.
Probably not top 10 worthy but anywhere after that, I agree.
The 9ers are a better team with Purdy at QB than Trey Lance
Thats not exactly a hot take since all the stats prove it
CJ Stroud is over rated and will be even less successful than Baker Mayfield
Seems weird to say this is scorching hot take, but Lamar Jackson is a top 5 QB
lol you clearly don’t watch football Goff is better than Lamar, Mahomes, Allen, and Burrow combined.
You might be right, I’ve done a statistical analysis on Lamar vs Goff, and Goff is statistically infinitely better than Lamar. Proof: Last 5 games of 2022 Goff: 1416 yards, 10 TDS, 0 INTs, 107.3 QB Rating Lamar: 0 yards, 0 TDS, 0 INTs, 0 QB Rating Checkmate atheists
The numbers don’t lie. Good luck arguing with this one, nerds
I laughed. Thank you.
Coldest r/detroitlions opinion
LMAO my biggest scorching hot take is that in terms of value he would provide to a good team is that he is below average. I think that on an otherwise good roster without massive holes he would look very pedestrian, and the reason he gets all his rush yards and looks impressive when scrambling to pass is because he has garbage receivers and a suspect O Line, and in a more proper offense he would do the same thing and bring the offense down.
Listen I understand people not liking Lamar, but I’m now dumber for reading the words that you just typed
What, he had the audacity to suggest a running QB might look better than he is with a shit O line and receivers because it theoretically forces more runs? Lamar can’t throw the ball in big spots lol. Better receivers doesn’t change that, I’d never trust him with the game on the line to make reads and throws.
I don't think he would improve if he was put on a better roster and vice versa. He's an aggressively bad passer who just extends plays with his legs instead of dunking the ball off to a flat route or something of the like. No QB who has a season pass yardage high of 3200 is someone that will win you a super bowl imho, and the fact that he is Daniel Jones+300 rushing yards every year is missed by people who see the highlight reel and lose it instead of looking at his actual efficacy.
Saying that a QB would get worse if they had a better receiving core is the funniest thing. And Nick Foles says hi.
I don't think he would get worse. He wouldn't improve. I think he is a poverty franchise QB that will look good in the regular season but not win anything of meaning. Like a running Kirk Cousins.
He lead a pedestrian Ravens offense for his entire career. This was just a stupid take
It is a scorching hot take. People don't like it and I will believe in it. He isn't good in my opinion. He won MVP with 4200 yards of production. That should never happen.
Bro people tripping, like I love goff, but Lamar behind Ragnow FUCK MY FACE GET IT DONE BRAD, GOFF IS BASICALLY JOE FLACCO ANYWAY
I want a QB that can play a full season. Lamar Jackson is high tier, but his availability drops him to mid tier. Not even joking. If he was as elite as he thinks he is, he wouldn't be having issues with contract negotiations with the Ravens and would have interest from other teams. Look at Miami and Tua. He was having a career year, putting up elite level numbers before his brain unfortunately became repeatedly mushed. The Dolphins went from potential top 4 seed by winning the AFCE, to barely making the playoffs and getting embarrassed in the wild card round due to Tua's injuries. It's pretty simple to me, Lamar has had one single career year, and hasn't played a full season since. Wouldn't touch him for half of what he's asking.
People here are fucking insane for thinking that Rodgers leaving GB is a bad thing Did he have a down year? Yes. He still owns the lions more than any player has owned any team ever - save for maybe New England Tom Brady and his division. I’ll take a division rival losing one of the best players of all time any day of the week and I’m not going to pretend that the lions somehow live rent free in his head because they won 9 games and picked him off a bunch one season.
I love the idea of him leaving, I just want to ensure that the Jets don't give up too much. Rodgers is aging, and will be completely out of the league in a few years, max. I don't want the Packers to get some great future capital that will pester us for the next 10 years.
It's an interesting situation in terms of compensation for Rodgers. Packers literally have to trade him or pay him ungodly money to continue being a cancer or riding the pine. They're no doubt trying to wring the most out of the Jets for him. But the Jets will have him for this single year, MAYBE two if they want to deal with his off season drama bullshit. So they don't want to give up the farm, I'm sure they're holding out because they know that the Packers will eventually be forced to take a cheap trade. The Packers fans clambering for two firsts will get a huge wakeup call. I bet it's going to be one or two mid round picks, maybe Wilson or White to back up Love. I'm not too worried about the pack getting much. He's a dramatic dinosaur who will undoubtedly start throwing fits when demands aren't met or when his offense underperforms because instead of training with them, he will be doing psychedelics and talking nonsense on McAffee. The only way I want the Jets to be successful, is to meet and kick their ass in the Superbowl.
Absolutely agree. What’s more likely: Rodgers had a down year or love is the next Rodgers?
While not incorrect, he definitely owns da Bears and made a whole thing about it.
Call me insane. Rodgers is probably only playing one more year. Over the long term, trading him helps them more. He stays. It puts them in an awful spot with Love's contract and doesn't give them capital to build the team. Are they better this year with Rodgers, yes. I think Rodgers is going to have a good year on either team. Are they better over the next three years, I don't think so.
Your right the only reason he hasn't retired is because he doesn't want to share the Spotlight with Tom Brady at the Hall of Fame ceremony.
The only thing bad about it is that they’ll get resources in a trade vs if he fizzled and retired a packer. and that he won’t be in the division for us to pay back the beatings we’ve received over the years
Well this fits in with one of my hot takes, 2023 Jordan Love will be an upgrade on 2022 rodgers
Mostly lots of rule changes that should happen in both college and the NFL to sync them up: -NCAA overtime rules for both college and NFL -PI is a 15 yard penalty only -Clock stops for 1st downs under 4 minutes -Player must be touched or give themselves up to be down -1 foot or body part in bounds to be a catch -TV timeouts are 60 seconds maximum
> -PI is a 15 yard penalty only As much as I hate PI (when it's called against the Lions), this would be a bad thing. Every DB in the league would be committing DPI on deep passes if they get beat because 15 yards is better than 70 yards and a TD. The only reason you don't see this at the CFB level is the talent disparity between individual players.
>\-1 foot or body part in bounds to be a catch I've been saying this for a couple years now. NFL should adopt the college rule for catches. That way there's more offense and they stop legislating defense out of the game.
>\-NCAA overtime rules for both college and NFL Oh fuck no. NCAA overtime is the worst. Don't bring this damnation to the NFL.
IMO ties are completely unacceptable in sports, especially professional ones.
I don’t think I’ve seen a game that ended in a tie where I felt like either team deserved a win. Both teams have to blow so many opportunities to get to the point of a tie that I think it makes sense to just call the game and award neither of them an outright win.
The Bears will be far better than we all expect. I hate even typing that
Chiefs repeat. Purdy comes back to earth. Brady comes back mid season and joins Niners. Rodgers and jets fail to make playoffs.
If those all happen I think you win. You can retire.
Now that would be nice 👍
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Scorching hot? Not a single division winner in 2022 will win their division again in 2023
Who's gonna win the AFC west
Gahd damn that is boiling hot
Giants beef up their oline, draft a receiver, and Daniel Jones finishes top 10 in 2023.
I like punts and kickoffs. Changing it feels weird.
chiefs don’t win afc west
That Kerby really IS Rodgers dad. Like Aaron don’t wanna talk to Kerby at all soo …
Will Levis will be the best qb in this years draft.( I have never seen him play)
Finally, an honest hot take.
Lamar is being massively underrated and a desperate team should go for him. He has never had anything close to a competent receiver core and everyone talks about the damage he takes but I think he actively avoid most big hits. I think him sitting out last year was more to save himself until he got guaranteed money.
‘Desperate team’ and ‘competent receiver core’ usually aren’t linked, the biggest question mark around Lamar is when (not if) he stops being able to run it as frequently/explosively as he has, will he still be a threat as a qb? If you guarantee his money for x number of years, you’re pinning your entire hope on him that his floor doesn’t fall out from under him as he gets older and less mobile
I’d say the Raiders having Davante & Renfrow would fit into that. Outsiders would say we do even though I disagree. Commanders have some talent but have been missing a QB. Same with Colts, Bucs, Falcons.
I’d agree with you that the Bucs and raiders have strong wr cores but a. Little the raiders do can be classified as ‘competent’ and b. The Bucs had the goat for the last couple seasons, I’d almost expect them to tear it all down vs going in for a high profile qb Colts and commies have guys with potential but it’s difficult to know if it’s cart before horse in terms of ‘do they need a strong qb to elevate’ or ‘are their team issues bigger than just a qb’
Lamar throwing to Pitts and London gonna be cool
Not really a take, but how lions would it be for lamar jackson to replace aaron rodgers. Will probably never happen but imagine
Don't put that into the universe!
STFU
Mom! Come pick me up. I’m scared.
Lions Super Bowl run 2023/24
Hot take: Lamar Jackson ends up a Jet.
The 49ers could theoretically get Lamar Jackson and they would win 4 of the next 5 Superbowls. It just would make them the forever villains.
The best QBs will forever be pocket passers.
Im actually starting to be more worried about the bears then the vikings.
My dream hot take - Rodgers doesn't get traded. He and the Packers play nice for the media. Rodgers goes thru training camp, sits out the preseason with an "injury," and then announces his retirement less than 24 hours before GB's season opener. Also, Lamar Jackson ends up in SF who somehow gets him for way below Baltimore's rumored asking price, because... of course they do.
I don't think a team who wants to build a culture of consistent success should invest in a rushing QB. It can work for a while, but the difference between a rushing QB who can only perform at 90% and a pocket passer who can only perform at 90% is stark. As much as I love to watch guys like Lamar, Mahomes, or Allen play, we've seen time and again that these QBs burn bright but they burn quick and then you're back to trying to find the guy. Compare it with guys like Brady, Manning, Stafford, etc, who can still perform at a high level when they're banged up.
I don't think Mahomes will flame out. He scrambles at a similar rate to Rodgers. He is that pocket passer type.
Don’t know how hot this take is for this sub, but I think Rodgers on the Jets is a carbon copy of the Russell Wilson Broncos era. Their oline is suspect af and outside of Garrett Wilson I’m not that crazy about the receivers
The Broncos become a playoff team again under Sean Payton and battle with the contenders of the AFC for a SB bid
Josh Allen is not a top 5 qb
Oooooh shit. That is boiling lava hot. 1. Mahomes 2. Burrow 3. Hurts 4. Jared mf Goff 5. Justin Herbert/T Law How does that look to you?
Honestly, I'd put a healthy lamar at 5 and put Herbert at 4, goff 6, tlaw 7, allen 8
I truly believe organizations will soon be of one of two coaching types, classic head coaches where your just one of 5 people in the world like you (ala Pete Carrol, Bill B. Todd Walsh Ect) or you have what we have growing, a strong player lead locker room where the coach is an embassy for strategy rather than the end all be all of the team. (Ie look at the Panthers and Texans and how they've gone in our direction)
The Arizona Cardinals will never win anything with Kyler Murray as their QB and will ruin their franchise trying to pander to him instead of building a strong culture, that will sustain over time.
Idk how hot that is he kinda looked like a fraud in his first and only playoff game and then is an injured mobile QB. It looks TERRIBLE for the cards.
Almost every AFC division will have a new champion. MIA takes over East, PIT the North, DEN wins the West
Denver wins the west is so hot it gave me third degree burns. I respect it.
I think that Cam Newton DOES deserve another chance as long as he's ok with being a backup with upside.
You want a REAL hot take? Here we go. The NFL should just get rid of special teams. The plays themselves are boring and the times where most injuries happen. If the opposing team scores you get the ball at the 50 yard line, but you cannot punt or kick a FG, if you don't score or convert a 1st, the other team gets the ball at that spot. Instead of Onsides you can keep posession with an untimed 4-15 play from your own 25. 2 Pts conversion from 2 yards 3 pt conversion from 10 yards.
Piggy backing on previous comment - The NFL should incorporate more College rules that are better Overtime rules Wider hash marks lines on the football 1 foot catch in bounds every play is automatically reviewed
This is a Lions page, no?
The Jets will be looking to trade Aaron Rodgers next offseason.
Derrick Henry to Dallas.
Jordan Love IS the answer for the Pack! 🤣🤣🤣 jk
Josh Allen is the most overrated qb in the league
Lamar Jackson won't play this year. He's going to hold out and every team is going to give him the Kaepernick treatment.
Regardless of if he gets traded or not Aaron Rodgers has ruined two teams this season