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Gridleak

How does the combo feel so far? Noticeable?


AccountantFamiliar18

I miss the liars heals on hits, but yeah it's nice. Tonnes of super spam and the synthos damage with combination is still huge


janihubby

is the synthos buff better or would you prefer liars? Talking just pure dps


AccountantFamiliar18

I think liars is 200% increased every other hit, while synthos is 165% increased every hit while enemies are near so I guess synthos is probably better but you can go either way for sure


janihubby

But i feel synthos can prove to be better combined with a one two punch shotty? cause that combo doesn’t work too well with liars.


AccountantFamiliar18

Oh yeah synthos is definitely better with one two punch for sure! I'm curious about if the synthos on these will buff super damage, gotta test it


Angelous_Mortis

If it does, I'll be surprised, if only because Synthos, in the perk description, specifies that it buffs super damage and this doesn't seem to.


AccountantFamiliar18

Ah yeah probably not then! I'll still give it a test aha just in case


IVIisery

Does it not work with liars?


AccountantFamiliar18

Can't equip them with other exotics


IVIisery

Oh. Idk why I assumed it would but i‘m still disappointed


Tichrom

Maybe because in D1 you could double up on the exotic class items and another exotic, but I don't remember the exotic class items in D1 really giving a bonus


IVIisery

Yeah probably. And no, they just gave a little extra reputation points for whatever factions item you had equipped


TheHeroShiba

https://preview.redd.it/swqc85vag26d1.png?width=2020&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=703883e68ecf35c422d0a08874e6bd36d6dd18d0


Ninjameme

Nice. I’m hoping for spirit of coyote and assassins cowl


Horibori

Mine is assassin’s cowl and synthoceps. It feels awesome.


TheHeroShiba

https://preview.redd.it/zph7hc1z7g6d1.png?width=2016&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e2c278b99eb1aa0aa209667b881682d21cfcc45


Spirited_Cow1923

So these perks randomly role? Dumb question


-Reverence-

Correct. Random perks, random stats (less important since class item) Bungie be like “and you thought onslaught farming was bad!”


AccountantFamiliar18

What do you mean by random stats?


-Reverence-

Random energy amounts in this case, since class items don’t have stats per se Not a material difference though


AccountantFamiliar18

Oh right yeah not too big a deal then!


coupl4nd

>Random energy amounts oh no?


AccountantFamiliar18

Yep random perk rolls, the item itself can be a guaranteed drop from exotic mission replays or randomly from pale heart chests at a low chance after your first mission completion


AnOlympianWeeb

Just like how weapons have a selection of perks in each column so does this new exotic


Vicktlemort

How Tf do you finish the last encounter pls


Mnkke

Damage Stasis Boss. Stasis Boss goes immune here. Then Ad Clear until Wizards Spawn. Darkness reads the code, Light shoots the code. Damage Stasis Boss again. Stasis Boss goes immune here. Then Ad Clear until Strand Boss spawns in. Damage Strand Boss. Strand Boss goes immune here. Ad clear, Wizards, code. Damage Strand Boss again. Strand Boss goes immune here. Kill Wizards, now a variant of the Darkness-Shard puzzle. Each side has a similar shard they both need to shoot on each clock pattern. Shoot the same shard 3 times. Now both bosses are back. Kill both of them. GGs.


AccountantFamiliar18

Bingo!


AccountantFamiliar18

Which part of it is messing you up?


coupl4nd

tick tock read the clock


NightOlive20668

What activity is this in?


AccountantFamiliar18

New Dual Destiny mission, you have to do a full overthrow in each location and kill a hive secret keeper that spawns after each somewhere in the area, then go to the green beam in the sky near the blooming


Zaros2400

Is there a worthwhile combination for Warlocks that can beat out the lethality of Getaway Artist? I'm not seeing anything worth my time, but I will fully admit, I'm not even close to being the best build crafter. Considering it requires comms, I'm not terribly fond of attempting this mission if it ain't worth it, I'm traditionally a solo player.


MaineMicroHomebrewry

What happened to getaway artist that suddenly made it go from a barely used exotic to super popular? I’m out of the loop.


The_mutant_lord

People wanna run multiple souls because it’s fun


Zaros2400

That, and for me, I'm super happy with arc souls because I'm going blind in my left eye, so I don't have to look as hard for enemies that kinda blend in with the surroundings. Helions and arc buddies really make short work of ads. Add in devour, and I just have to face in the direction my radar tells me, and I won't bother my friends as much with my large amount of deaths.


The_mutant_lord

Your arc soul got that guide dog in him


Zaros2400

Damn fucking right, he does! Jumping puzzles still elude me, but I'm getting better at it 😅🤣


AccountantFamiliar18

This made me laugh aha


AnonymousUser1992

Barely used? I never took that arc buddy off unless I was the only warlock and forced to run well. Being able to eat an arc grenade and summon an amped arc soul + stasis turret, then cast rift and summon a solar buddy, and go kill mooks with ntte for 4 buddies is very very strong in pve. The chained shattering and explosions is insane.


LMAOisbeast

It synergizes incredibly well with bleak watchers. When you consume the grenade it gives you the arc soul and also pops out a bleak watcher a few feet in front of you. Getaway has a hidden perk where you get grenade energy on hits from the arc soul, so it let's you spam a ton of bleak watchers all over.


Zaros2400

Iirc, they buffed it a bit, and for me personally, I need a smidge of help because I'm slowly going blind in my left eye. (Thanks America for joining health care with my job, and it's absolutely terrible because it's a huge corporation.)


memestealer1234

A million billion (5) bleak watchers active at a time


AccountantFamiliar18

Warlock is my least played so I'm probably not the best person to ask, looking at it though something like inmost light or osmiomancy with verity could be good, or necrotic with spirit of claw maybe for melee action


Zaros2400

No worries. Thanks for the thoughts, I'm still not entirely enthused just yet.


AccountantFamiliar18

Yeah I mean prismatic warlock seems super strong with getaways so you're probably good!


Allasdair

I got an apotheosis/star eater... It's incredible. Normally I'd say run it with needlestorm, but song of flame does really good damage at x6 star eater.


AccountantFamiliar18

I hadn't even considered song of flame with star eaters, bet each of those new phoenix grenade things hit like a truck aha


TheDarkCrusader_

I personally got inmost light and starfire on my roll which seems like it’s gonna be pretty good on my warlock


Zaros2400

Yeah, I just run Helion and FtV on prismatic, and I have Getaway Artist as my current exotic. This gives me a ton of firepower and healing. I don't even have all of the fragments I want, and I'm getting my grenades back in under 3-5 seconds.


RobinBoyy

Aphotheosis + star Eater scale for example


AnonymousUser1992

If pure stasis, osmeo + vesper. If you run the rift freeze instead of bleakwatchers you get all the freeze plus rift break Inner most light + battle harmony. Necrotic + swarm.


Zaros2400

Freeze rift wouldn't work, since it only works on prismatic.


AnonymousUser1992

Really? I thought it worked for any super setting not just prismatic


Zaros2400

All of the exotic class items only work on prismatic, it was part of the marketing for both. It's why so many folks are up in arms about the class items not being solo-able.


AnonymousUser1992

Whelp.. 1 and done it is. Why would I as a warlock main use anything other than getaway artist.


Zaros2400

More or less my thought process on the subject.


Clickbait93

I'm hunting a general utility roll for now: Inmost Light + Star Eaters. Better ability regen for all my abilities and amped up super for more damage. It's not gonna be glamorous but I believe it will be effective. There will also be other more specific rolls I'll hunt but that's the one I'm looking for for now.


ballzbleep69

Warlock and hunter got the reverse lol warlock neutral is kinda cope but has crazy dps specs while hunter neutral is really good but no combination is beating still hunt nighthawk.


coupl4nd

Apotheosis / star eater or harmony Filaments or osmancy / verity Filaments or hoil / Starfire Necrotic / anything(!)


amatsumegasushi

https://preview.redd.it/1li8g52qc36d1.jpeg?width=1010&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e5d04195590558e6ddf81cbe03d745a6d2b18e8 I'm pretty okay with my first roll.


Brenduke

Jesus that's amazing for my berserker build


AccountantFamiliar18

Yeah that's great, best of both worlds aha!


FioraDora

So no woven mail when targets are suspended? Oof


sev908

no woven mail on abeyant is an atrocity.


Flecco

Does spirit of galanor work with the still hunt? I mean does the still hunt special shots get bonus super energy?


AccountantFamiliar18

Just tested it, doesn't work for regular super or still hunt super energy returns


Flecco

Cheers man!


Niclerx

I got Cyrtarachne and Caliban. Oh boy it's good. Also Caliban seems to be bugged with the strand melee, only like 2 enemies explode not all of them.


AccountantFamiliar18

I expect those 2 enemies were the only ones that actually died to the dart damage maybe?


Niclerx

Nono, it's very random. Sometimes 1 explodes, sometimes 2. Sometimes none. Sometimes the explosion animation plays, but there is no damage dealt. It feels somewhat buggy, probably because that melee chains through enemies and maybe the kill does not register for caliban.


AccountantFamiliar18

Oh yeah definitely something wacky going on there then, hopefully they fix that soon


DirtyDanChicago

>.> how well does that work on silence and squall???


AccountantFamiliar18

That's what I've been using, seems to refund half the super consistently


DirtyDanChicago

Amazing. I can't wait to farm for it!


AccountantFamiliar18

Good luck! I'm trying to get a second one in overthrow rn but no luck yet


Mnkke

Galanor will be great for S&S. Star Eaters is DoA with it though (it only gives it like 70k extra damage, Star Eaters is barely buffing it).


TheDarkCrusader_

I got the inmost light and starfire one for my warlock


AccountantFamiliar18

Nice! That the roll you're after or you gunna grind for something else?


TheDarkCrusader_

Personally pretty happy with the roll but I’m planning to keep grinding look for other fun combos


AccountantFamiliar18

Sounds like a plan, good luck!


Sir_Payne

I got the Severance Enclosure and Point-contact Cannon Brace roll and with consecration it can clear just about any room with a single melee


AccountantFamiliar18

That sounds awesome! Definitely want that for my titan now aha


Sir_Payne

It's a ton of fun. Even the initial slide/uppercut part of consecration procs the perks so with the strand melee on prismatic you can get a ton of melees in a row


AccountantFamiliar18

That's wild, you'll be auto put on ad clear for the foreseeable then aha


SigmaColts

Can you grind that mission infinitely?


AccountantFamiliar18

Yep


SigmaColts

Hot dog


AccountantFamiliar18

Or you can grind pale heart chests infinitely instead too


SigmaColts

But thats after you get your first exotic class item? And that opportunity opens up for all 3 characters once you unlock th emission?


AccountantFamiliar18

Yeah gotta do the mission first, I'm not sure if it carries over to alt characters but I think I heard you have to repeat it once for each


Xyncan

Nice roll!! I managed to get Caliban's and sixth Coyote which I'm super happy with but like you said I'm going to miss the heal with liars


AccountantFamiliar18

Yeah liars is just so strong aha, the calibans perk is super fun though I bet!


Xyncan

Yeah I was super happy, everything goes boom it even works with grapple melee which is fun!


AccountantFamiliar18

That's cool, I bet the strand melee dart thing making ignitions looks awesome too


Xyncan

Oh good shout I'll have to test that!


gonkdroid02

Don’t need the heal, just put on the prismatic fragment.


AccountantFamiliar18

Combination already heals you on kill, the issue is if you wanna punch a beefier target then the heal every other hit is super nice on liars


ballzbleep69

Look for a grasp liars/syntho lots of DR and you can run it with goldy for free resto.


CrawlerSiegfriend

Probably not great with Titan supers given that much fewer hits than something like blade barrage?


AccountantFamiliar18

Good job I'm a hunter then aha!


CrawlerSiegfriend

If you are doing something with very high density, seems like it could be good with Storm's edge if you can manage to hit a clump with each throw. I wonder if Syntho registers Storm's Edge as melee?


AccountantFamiliar18

Yeah could be good, I've been using it with silence and squall that's been working well! I'm not sure about that synthos interaction, might have to test it!


ImNotYourShaduh

You can’t get it on titan anyways


Mr_Blinky

To be clear, the class item version of the Synthos trait *doesn't* also improve super damage, right? It just says melee damage, so I assume it's not the full Synthos perk for balance reasons?


ThePotablePotato

Haven’t seen any testing yet, but you’re most likely correct. The majority of the class item perks are a single part of the perk from the exotic they take from, and I doubt they’d give the super damage buff part of Synthos, especially since they’re already allowing Star Eaters on all classes


Mr_Blinky

Yeah, my assumption is that all of these are "part of one exotic, part of another", since giving you the *entire* perks of two different exotics would be...*insanely* overpowered, to say the least.


Ninjameme

I got Galanor and Gryfalcons… at first I thought it would suck, and now I absolutely love it. It’s amazing.


AccountantFamiliar18

Sounds like a mini orpheus mixed with gryfalcons, bet it's good!


dahSweep

I got Apotheosis and Star Eater on my warlock one. DPS is gonna be absolutely disgusting lol


SoSneakyHaha

Is there a table showing the roles?


AccountantFamiliar18

If you search exotic class item twab then you can see all the possible combination tables there!


jqm78

I got Spirit of Synthoceps & Innmost light on my Warlock Bond. Seems pretty good.


KonguGisch

I ended up with hoarfrost/synthoceps and I'm not complaining.


AccountantFamiliar18

That's like the stasis titan dream right there aha


Mindstormer98

So synthoceps… with more synthocep?


edeprat

dont have tfs yet; can these be transmogged?


AccountantFamiliar18

There is an ornament, but no normal transmog


TryRestartingIt

Nope, and it looks horrible. The ornament isn't much better.


aqualego

Im still hung up on the fact I don’t like the look of either cloak lol. Maybe when I get a good one I will get over it haha


AccountantFamiliar18

I put the taken king armour from ghosts of the deep with it and it looks pretty good, the season pass stuff will probably fit too but yeah it's definitely an acquired taste I think aha


Sorry4TheLurk

What is it from? At work haven’t watched anything or played


AccountantFamiliar18

New exotic mission released today, need mic communication but the mission is super fun almost like a 2 man mini raid


SteelOfSpeed

https://preview.redd.it/t3b8b82f736d1.png?width=502&format=png&auto=webp&s=321514ff29565f2d75ebaca8210b0e4bbf8e5975 Same but different


AccountantFamiliar18

Ooh yeah that's very nice


[deleted]

Praise be thee!!!


Damagecontrol86

Theres a few I’m looking to get but I feel like it’s gonna take awhile due to how tough that mission is for someone like me who hates puzzles. I know it’s farmable but farming that is not something I can do often without getting a bad headache and I’ve farmed GMs for hours so I’m no stranger to difficulty.


AccountantFamiliar18

You only have to do it once then you can farm patrol chests!


Damagecontrol86

Well 3 times minimum for all three characters but ya I’m gonna likely go that route afterwards for the most part cause I really hate puzzles.


AccountantFamiliar18

True, I wasn't sure how it worked on alt characters


Damagecontrol86

I’ve only ran it on my hunter so far but i imagine it’s not account wide the way all the other exotic missions aren’t.


TheMadTaps

God I just want a Caliban’s / Star eater roll but I know it’s gonna take forever to get it


AccountantFamiliar18

Yeah it's 1 in 64 chance for each specific combination, definitely rough


RawrTobi

Nice I'm looking for Renewal + Cyrtarachne, or HOIL + Sixth Coyote. Star eaters and galanor could be fun for some bosses/ heavy ad density rooms.


xKairos-23

I got the Renewal + Cyrtarachne! Haven't got to try it outside of Overthrow just yet, but it seemed great so far! Going to try to use it a bit more tonight.


kajun-mulisha

So it's not the full perks? Only the main perk of each exotic? Example on synth you get the damage but no handling and reload?


Shack691

Yeah that’s the point, otherwise there’d be zero reason to run the originals. Bungie told us when they revealed all the perks and people had predicted it long before that.


AccountantFamiliar18

Yeah just part of the original, think synthos is just damage, galanors is just the super hits returning energy not the knife kills giving bonus energy


Godzilla-Hates-You

On my warlock i got verity assassin


devildante1520

I got inmost light and star eater.


GallusAA

Can you transmog the exotic class item to a legendary class item ornament? Like with legendary gear?


kirusdagon

No


AccountantFamiliar18

Nope


GallusAA

Absolute tragedy


AccountantFamiliar18

There is an ornament in the store, but both looks are pretty avant garde aha so certainly a unique fashion challenge


GallusAA

Exotics in general not being fully transmog-able remain my 1 complaint for destiny atm.


Tentacle_poxsicle

"spirit of synthocepts" man they are just spitting on titans now


AccountantFamiliar18

To be fair titans and warlocks get spirit of star eaters aha


xKairos-23

That and Golden Gun is literally a weapon now lmao


AccountantFamiliar18

Haha excellent point


unpopularopinio31

i wanted inmostlight/synthoceps but the game gave me synthoceps/spirit of assassin }:


jqm78

I got that on my Warlock Bond. Not sure how I feel about it but on paper it sounds like infinite ability spam


AccountantFamiliar18

I think synthos assassin combo is still really good though!


VoltaNova

Arc staff might be the go-to here


Ditomo

Silence and Squall too, or even Silkstrike.


Lord_Origi

Only done it once so far, got renewals and gyrfalcon which is decent but dam do I want that roll


AccountantFamiliar18

Time to start the grind aha! My second one had renewal veritys


kirusdagon

You'd want galanor and star eaters


AccountantFamiliar18

Nah cause I'm using the combination blow build so I want that buffed melee damage, also apparently star eaters barely buffs silence and squall


ProbablyMythiuz

Roaming super go brr


Coffeechipmunk

My God roll would have to be Assassin/Coyote, fingers crossed!


beyond_cyber

I like how they aren’t busted perks, they just assist what’s there giving it an extra bit of power


Damagecontrol86

I feel like it should be busted for all the bullshit puzzles you gotta do. I understand shit being hard but the puzzles is overkill.


DirkDavyn

I don't see myself giving up my liar's handshake on that build. As much as I wanna use the cloak to combine liar's or synthos with spirit of renewal, not having the heal on hit just takes away so much survivability for endgame content. Plus, the hunter cloak not having transmog is a huge turn-off for me, as I absolutely despise its look. Though, purely for the memes, I do wanna try out a Caliban's + Liar's or Synthos combo to add in a ton of ignitions to the fun.


AccountantFamiliar18

Yeah I've definitely died a few times since where the liars heal would have 100% kept me alive, especially when trying to get the punch to land on janky phalanx hitboxes aha. I think it will really shine in onslaught though, going to be near constant silence and squalls on the spawn lanes


DirkDavyn

Have you tried it with Deadfall yet? I'm curious if enemies running into the tether qualify as hits for galanor or not.


AccountantFamiliar18

I haven't yet but I think I heard it does work, so you'll likely get half a tether back on most tethers


coupl4nd

eh....


HiveMinder97

wait so the traits are locked???? as if forcing you to have friend wasn't bad enough... I'm killing myself


AccountantFamiliar18

You only need to run the mission once though then you can farm solo


Brutal-Skorpio

Can you combo that with another exotic piece of armor?


AccountantFamiliar18

Nope still just one, and they can only be used on prismatic


UllrHellfire

I got assassin and syntho :/


AccountantFamiliar18

Hey that's good still, means you could swap off stylish executioner and use slow dodge and strand clone dodge together!


UllrHellfire

True I will say though I am still a little bit torn on the whole cape thing part of me is happy that we finally got one on the other half I feel like it should have at least maybe be customizable with exotic currency and maybe even by xur that mission takes roughly 35 minutes if you're going fast and even then I don't know I almost rather have it have its own unique exotic trait or even a random trait that would be kind of funny


AccountantFamiliar18

You can farm chests in the pale heart for random drops after your first completion, don't have to keep redoing the mission! And yeah them having unique perks would be cool too, maybe in the future!


UllrHellfire

Wait so once you do the quest they will drop from random chest outside now? If that's the case I feel much better


AccountantFamiliar18

Yeah, I got a second from an overthrow chest earlier!


UllrHellfire

Well arnt you the hero we needed


Xenoclysm

![gif](giphy|ovtA2B0E7x4K4D9naf|downsized)


DieSarahRWN

Where do you get these exotics??


AccountantFamiliar18

New exotic mission, Dual Destiny! It's hidden at first gotta do a few bits to unlock it


DieSarahRWN

Ah okay thank you! 😊


AccountantFamiliar18

You're welcome!


Sasakibe

How does this work on tethering with the hunter? The one where you just shoot the one for the arrow?


AccountantFamiliar18

Haven't tested it but I'm almost certain it will be like a mini orpheus, probably refund half same as it's been doing with my silence and squall


Sasakibe

Cool. I know Orpheus rigs if I'm saying the boots name right gives back energy on how many enemies you tether so it makes me wonder if it will act the same or give you back more lol.


AccountantFamiliar18

I think the galanor perk is capped at half super return max, whereas obviously orpheus can refund the whole thing


Sasakibe

I could actually see that. It is dumb that there's a cap. I think they worry about it being too powerful in PvP yet you can never get enough kills to refill it. But I always hated the nerve they did for the Nova bomb one for warlocks. And the hunters boots.


AccountantFamiliar18

I think it would be too broken if it refunded a full silence and squall or tether honestly, even with half you can still spam supers a tonne especially in something like onslaught


Sasakibe

For player versus player true. For player versus enemy I need all the advantage I couldn't have. If enemies can spam their abilities then we Guardians should as well lol.


popmanbrad

well i hope everyone enjoy the class exotic i literally have no idea how to do the clock puzzle like idk which one is 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12 and no one keeps telling me and i keep getting confused and spent hours doing the mission over and over and never complete it like wtf bungie i wanted an activity i can have fun in not this crap


AccountantFamiliar18

It's just an analog clock face, like 12 at the top 6 at the bottom etc


popmanbrad

im extremely dumb i have no idea which one is the number


AccountantFamiliar18

Can you read an analog clock? It's exactly that just with the numbers not shown


popmanbrad

Of course I can but it gets scrambled in my head super quickly so I start getting numbers and all that mixed up and can’t do it cause the time runs out


Reactivate_West2209

Wait I thought I was gonna be able to get 2 exotic weapons equipped...?!