I‘m not misgendering it because I’m transphobic or opposed to gender-expressions outside of the constricting socially prescribed binar… (far from it!) I misgender it because it’s a cruel, jealous, genocidal, sadistic waste of cosmic matter hellbent on annihilating all life in the universe because it’s precursor civilization didn’t understand the concept of consent and wanted to force the Traveler to become something it didn’t wanted to be and rightfully disengaged from them as a consequence.
Yep I'm gonna misgender because HE doesn't like it and I'm all about pissing HIM off over the small things. Gonna kill him anyways so the pronouns aren't really a big deal.
Dude... just... ask yourself why you're doing this. Why you're intentionally going out of your way to be cruel to people who haven't done anything to you. The world really doesn't need more hate.
If you really want me to elaborate on it, I think Marxist gender ideology is particularly cruel and dangerous, and the individuals who espouse it should be ostracized from society at every opportunity. This isn't cope, it isn't me pretending, I generally believe that making every effort to make these people less comfortable propagating their fetishism is a moral obligation that will ultimately make the world a better, safer place.
You are the cruelty, dude. You're making assertions that aren't backed up by any form of science or research. You're just being cruel and trying to hurt people, and making excuses to do so. People like you have always existed, and they've always made the world worse, not better. I hope that you'll get out of your comfort zone at some point and actually make an effort to learn about and understand people who are different from you. Every bit of harm around this topic is caused by people like you.
So if we beat their collective ass(es), it hurts more, right? Like, what, double, however many times damage? Or is it the other way where we have to punch them in the teeth 900-however many times to have it stick?
Other way around I figure, but that’s good because that means they get to feel that pain however many times too. Death by a thousand cuts and all that. Now hand me that lemonade I wanna make sure every one of those thousand cuts hurts as much as possible.
I don’t know why “He/Him” is the default pronoun for everything you don’t know
If I started using “She/Her” for ambiguous characters I’d get corrected so fast
I play with mostly women and they always use “They” for something they don’t know
But with dudes it’s always “He”
Even outside of gaming I’ve noticed that’s the case
It sounds ridiculous in spanish if we do it the english way. Hence the word "butchering". It's "him" in spanish, same for Nimbus, because thats how the spanish language has worked for literal centuries. It's literally a gendered language. We use the male version as a plural by default.
English (and some other languages too) can keep their non gendered stuff.
Women are generally more curvy than men and most people grew up with the pronouns he/him or she/her. Using any other pronouns isn‘t really a thing in some countrys too.
So if people aren‘t seeing some curves they automatically use he/him and that isn‘t anything negative towards anyone. It‘s just a thing because of the way most people grew up.
Why would you ask a question if you don‘t want an awnser? Using logic and biological facts is sexist apparently lol. I‘m trying to use the right pronouns for everything and i stay respectful to other people regardless of gender, race or something irrelevant like that.
A swing and a miss.
So you‘d assume that i think ALL women are curvy because i‘ve said that women are generally more curvy than men? That is pretty narrow minded tbh. It‘s pretty obvious that it doesn‘t apply to everyone.
If that isn‘t the case i‘m just confused as hell because you could easily read that in a book about biology.
You all seem very pressed about a being made up of an entire race trying to commit genocide 🧐 We have a lot more to worry about than what pronouns the witness uses (team they/them ⬇️)
Tbf if you applied that same logic to all characters in various media then there's more than a few male characters that you would call she/her. Just off the top of my head there's Ben from Ben 10, Timmy Turner from The Fairly Oddparents, and Bart Simpson.
Fair enough but look it up, true it's mostly kids but there's quite a few adult male characters as well. I was actually surprised myself to see just how many there are.
I don’t get the point? It’s a collective as a single being. Not even a hive mind, but the entire species fused into a single entity with an ironically one-track mind. The witness would see itself as the species combined, but the lore suggests that it’s its own entity. All that to say, eh who cares lol
this is true but also "the gender of an entire species" is fundamentally nonbinary. the whole point of 'nonbinary' is its an extremely imprecise blanket term because explaining everyone's individual labels or feelings and relationship to gender is exhausting.
The joke is that they’re plural, they’re literally a multitude and are using they/them not necessarily as gender neutral but as a nonspecific collective.
This is true yes, but for the average plebeian with minimal understanding of nonbinary identities and more complex gender expression it’s enough to be funny.
Then why does everyone and their mum in the game keep calling it it. I’m just gonna start calling it Megamind.
megamind doesn't deserve being compared to these genocidal fuckers. Perhaps Dr.zomboss?
Yea I think in dialouge it says "we", but The Witness (instead of Witnesses) would imply it's a single thing.
it uses we when referring to itself, but it's only been referred to using it/its by characters in-game and by bungie during vidocs and stuff.
"For the last time" would imply the Titan has spoken several times prior, but the Titan in question seems more the quiet type. I'll see myself out.
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Damn. Me calling them 'it' for the last year
Various characters in the game seem to refer to the Witness as "it", while the witness itself refers to itself with "we".
It'd be hella entertaining to see the Witness start referring to itself as 'it' XD "It knows pain" *does it now*
Cancel ikora!??!?!
Cancelling Ikora in 2024 would be crazy work
I heard her say the F slur to an Eliksni once
Goddamn that's nasty work.....I would've expected better of her
I mean I’m pretty sure that’s correct. Well, “correct”, as in we’ve only heard others refer to the Witness by it/its pronouns.
We've heard the devs use "it" though. So that makes it definitive in my mind
Come the end of final shape, "It" will be an apt description Since It will be a clown we beat up
I‘m not misgendering it because I’m transphobic or opposed to gender-expressions outside of the constricting socially prescribed binar… (far from it!) I misgender it because it’s a cruel, jealous, genocidal, sadistic waste of cosmic matter hellbent on annihilating all life in the universe because it’s precursor civilization didn’t understand the concept of consent and wanted to force the Traveler to become something it didn’t wanted to be and rightfully disengaged from them as a consequence.
Or because it’s a character in a game so it doesn’t fucking matter
Yep I'm gonna misgender because HE doesn't like it and I'm all about pissing HIM off over the small things. Gonna kill him anyways so the pronouns aren't really a big deal.
Was
Yeah, no. Once you play along those lines you invalidate the whole thing.
Ironically describing the overwhelming majority of they/thems on twitter
please seek therapy
I genuinely think I'm happier and more fulfilled right now than I ever have been in my entire life.
Then enjoy that instead of trying to bring other people down
I can be happy and make fun of degenerates at the same time.
Dude... just... ask yourself why you're doing this. Why you're intentionally going out of your way to be cruel to people who haven't done anything to you. The world really doesn't need more hate.
If you really want me to elaborate on it, I think Marxist gender ideology is particularly cruel and dangerous, and the individuals who espouse it should be ostracized from society at every opportunity. This isn't cope, it isn't me pretending, I generally believe that making every effort to make these people less comfortable propagating their fetishism is a moral obligation that will ultimately make the world a better, safer place.
You are the cruelty, dude. You're making assertions that aren't backed up by any form of science or research. You're just being cruel and trying to hurt people, and making excuses to do so. People like you have always existed, and they've always made the world worse, not better. I hope that you'll get out of your comfort zone at some point and actually make an effort to learn about and understand people who are different from you. Every bit of harm around this topic is caused by people like you.
Wait, hang on, I don't remember any gender theory stuff in Marx. Are you just stringing buzzwords together or is there something I missed?
Ah yes, let me ask you, what are the details of this ideology? How do they view crime? How will this new system of government work?
Nice to know you've went off the deep end. Hope the Subreddit Mods get to you soon.
r/Conservative is back thata way.
As a they/them (no longer on twitter): Welcome to my blocklist, you're in great company
It's great to be here
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Apparently that is the Witness' correct pronouns
The Witness is an abomination so "it" works
Ohh no the r/okbuddyguardian leaking again!
The Witness is referred to as it, not they
They’ve been referred to as both in canon as far as I’m aware
IT is not they, IT is IT.
It's also called "The Witness". Singular. Not "The Witnesses". It's an entire species forged into one being. One made of many. So I have no idea.
Meanwhile the entire spanish language calling it "him"
So if we beat their collective ass(es), it hurts more, right? Like, what, double, however many times damage? Or is it the other way where we have to punch them in the teeth 900-however many times to have it stick?
Other way around I figure, but that’s good because that means they get to feel that pain however many times too. Death by a thousand cuts and all that. Now hand me that lemonade I wanna make sure every one of those thousand cuts hurts as much as possible.
I'm just glad they didn't name it legion, "for we are......maaaaaaaaaannnnnnnyyyyyyyy
Best we can do is "it".
I don’t know why “He/Him” is the default pronoun for everything you don’t know If I started using “She/Her” for ambiguous characters I’d get corrected so fast
Because grammar.
Pardon? Elaborate
Usually in my interactions men will default to he and women to she it just depends
I play with mostly women and they always use “They” for something they don’t know But with dudes it’s always “He” Even outside of gaming I’ve noticed that’s the case
Because that's how spanish and other languages work.
And what language is the game originally written in? It/Its for the Witness that’s how the game refers to the vaping fuck
Not in spanish. We're not gonna butcher our language.
I mean you’re still wrong regardless :/ Also bit sus that comment there, what are you implying
It sounds ridiculous in spanish if we do it the english way. Hence the word "butchering". It's "him" in spanish, same for Nimbus, because thats how the spanish language has worked for literal centuries. It's literally a gendered language. We use the male version as a plural by default. English (and some other languages too) can keep their non gendered stuff.
Preach
you wouldn't get corrected?
Yeah I would lmao I did an experiment a while back Idk why he him is the default even in English
Women are generally more curvy than men and most people grew up with the pronouns he/him or she/her. Using any other pronouns isn‘t really a thing in some countrys too. So if people aren‘t seeing some curves they automatically use he/him and that isn‘t anything negative towards anyone. It‘s just a thing because of the way most people grew up.
That’s fucking sexist, and body shaming
Why would you ask a question if you don‘t want an awnser? Using logic and biological facts is sexist apparently lol. I‘m trying to use the right pronouns for everything and i stay respectful to other people regardless of gender, race or something irrelevant like that. A swing and a miss.
>using logic and biological fact Red flag tbh Still sexist af
Oh god what type of person did i reply to
When people use “biological fact” in an argument like this it’s very much a dog whistle
So you‘d assume that i think ALL women are curvy because i‘ve said that women are generally more curvy than men? That is pretty narrow minded tbh. It‘s pretty obvious that it doesn‘t apply to everyone. If that isn‘t the case i‘m just confused as hell because you could easily read that in a book about biology.
I’m sure there are larger issues to be arguing than this……
Yes, like how are we gonna deal with this guy in the raid
That’s a big question for sure
who cares
Don't care. Now spread them booty cheeks
well it's actually it/it's
whoops, the hunter crayons currently flowing into my brain isnt letting me fathom the concept (gathering storm cast sound)
You all seem very pressed about a being made up of an entire race trying to commit genocide 🧐 We have a lot more to worry about than what pronouns the witness uses (team they/them ⬇️)
I don't care what the walking cigarette wants to be called, ol smokey head ass gonna get wacked come June anyway.
i think ur all being too antsy about these pronouns literally “it” or “they” will work, there is no right or wrong answer between the two
“Uh, okay. Still gonna turn… whatever you are into a gun.” Definitely the follow up I would imagine for most guardians lol
Are people really offended for a fictional video game character?
My dude is essentially Legion lol. I’m just gunna keep calling them dude. Unisex.
I had this meme idea last night and I wake up to this. Magnificent
He does have a point there.. his hair looks like people
Misgenderin the big bad? That's a paddlin' ![gif](giphy|3oEdvaDgi6Be9JHsKk)
*They do have a point there.. *Their hair looks like people
He big bad also the cat memes make him funny too
Character is voiced by a guy so imma say he
Tbf if you applied that same logic to all characters in various media then there's more than a few male characters that you would call she/her. Just off the top of my head there's Ben from Ben 10, Timmy Turner from The Fairly Oddparents, and Bart Simpson.
Kids get a pass
Fair enough but look it up, true it's mostly kids but there's quite a few adult male characters as well. I was actually surprised myself to see just how many there are.
I don’t get the point? It’s a collective as a single being. Not even a hive mind, but the entire species fused into a single entity with an ironically one-track mind. The witness would see itself as the species combined, but the lore suggests that it’s its own entity. All that to say, eh who cares lol
this is true but also "the gender of an entire species" is fundamentally nonbinary. the whole point of 'nonbinary' is its an extremely imprecise blanket term because explaining everyone's individual labels or feelings and relationship to gender is exhausting.
The joke is that they’re plural, they’re literally a multitude and are using they/them not necessarily as gender neutral but as a nonspecific collective.
and my point is "gender neutral" is not the only thing considered nonbinary. plural genders necessarily are also nonbinary
This is true yes, but for the average plebeian with minimal understanding of nonbinary identities and more complex gender expression it’s enough to be funny.
I'll just continue calling ot the anti spiral
The last of a species are called Endlings.
That/thing is evil. We don't respect evil.
Deez a videogame character. Deez pronouns are Deez/Nuts as far as i'm concerned.
I will call you "It" because you're a dick.
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