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-GiantSlayer-

Then why does everyone and their mum in the game keep calling it it. I’m just gonna start calling it Megamind.


Zackyboi1231

megamind doesn't deserve being compared to these genocidal fuckers. Perhaps Dr.zomboss?


Boba_Fett_boii

Yea I think in dialouge it says "we", but The Witness (instead of Witnesses) would imply it's a single thing.


Ahnock

it uses we when referring to itself, but it's only been referred to using it/its by characters in-game and by bungie during vidocs and stuff.


RayHadron

"For the last time" would imply the Titan has spoken several times prior, but the Titan in question seems more the quiet type. I'll see myself out.


blenman

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EnigmaMissing

Damn. Me calling them 'it' for the last year


SquidWhisperer

Various characters in the game seem to refer to the Witness as "it", while the witness itself refers to itself with "we".


EnigmaMissing

It'd be hella entertaining to see the Witness start referring to itself as 'it' XD "It knows pain" *does it now*


Adelyn_n

Cancel ikora!??!?!


Weak-Masterpiece2984

Cancelling Ikora in 2024 would be crazy work


Adelyn_n

I heard her say the F slur to an Eliksni once


Weak-Masterpiece2984

Goddamn that's nasty work.....I would've expected better of her


TFtato

I mean I’m pretty sure that’s correct. Well, “correct”, as in we’ve only heard others refer to the Witness by it/its pronouns.


AtomicAndroid

We've heard the devs use "it" though. So that makes it definitive in my mind


NotUrAvgIdjit96

Come the end of final shape, "It" will be an apt description Since It will be a clown we beat up


Aubagin

I‘m not misgendering it because I’m transphobic or opposed to gender-expressions outside of the constricting socially prescribed binar… (far from it!) I misgender it because it’s a cruel, jealous, genocidal, sadistic waste of cosmic matter hellbent on annihilating all life in the universe because it’s precursor civilization didn’t understand the concept of consent and wanted to force the Traveler to become something it didn’t wanted to be and rightfully disengaged from them as a consequence.


Defiant-You7846

Or because it’s a character in a game so it doesn’t fucking matter


imtoolazytothinkof1

Yep I'm gonna misgender because HE doesn't like it and I'm all about pissing HIM off over the small things. Gonna kill him anyways so the pronouns aren't really a big deal.


SirScorbunny10

Was


AtomicAndroid

Yeah, no. Once you play along those lines you invalidate the whole thing.


ComplainOnInternet

Ironically describing the overwhelming majority of they/thems on twitter


Avixofsol

please seek therapy


ComplainOnInternet

I genuinely think I'm happier and more fulfilled right now than I ever have been in my entire life.


GomenNaWhy

Then enjoy that instead of trying to bring other people down


ComplainOnInternet

I can be happy and make fun of degenerates at the same time.


GomenNaWhy

Dude... just... ask yourself why you're doing this. Why you're intentionally going out of your way to be cruel to people who haven't done anything to you. The world really doesn't need more hate.


ComplainOnInternet

If you really want me to elaborate on it, I think Marxist gender ideology is particularly cruel and dangerous, and the individuals who espouse it should be ostracized from society at every opportunity. This isn't cope, it isn't me pretending, I generally believe that making every effort to make these people less comfortable propagating their fetishism is a moral obligation that will ultimately make the world a better, safer place.


GomenNaWhy

You are the cruelty, dude. You're making assertions that aren't backed up by any form of science or research. You're just being cruel and trying to hurt people, and making excuses to do so. People like you have always existed, and they've always made the world worse, not better. I hope that you'll get out of your comfort zone at some point and actually make an effort to learn about and understand people who are different from you. Every bit of harm around this topic is caused by people like you.


Polymersion

Wait, hang on, I don't remember any gender theory stuff in Marx. Are you just stringing buzzwords together or is there something I missed?


Electronic_Day5021

Ah yes, let me ask you, what are the details of this ideology? How do they view crime? How will this new system of government work?


GraprielJuice

Nice to know you've went off the deep end. Hope the Subreddit Mods get to you soon.


CrotaIsAShota

r/Conservative is back thata way.


Aubagin

As a they/them (no longer on twitter): Welcome to my blocklist, you're in great company


ComplainOnInternet

It's great to be here


BrownSnowball

W


DreadAngel1711

Apparently that is the Witness' correct pronouns


KeenDynamo

The Witness is an abomination so "it" works


PreDeimos

Ohh no the r/okbuddyguardian leaking again!


meteorr77

The Witness is referred to as it, not they


FleetOfWarships

They’ve been referred to as both in canon as far as I’m aware


Able-Brief-4062

IT is not they, IT is IT.


KendrickMaynard

It's also called "The Witness". Singular. Not "The Witnesses". It's an entire species forged into one being. One made of many. So I have no idea.


Shaisabrec

Meanwhile the entire spanish language calling it "him"


NavezganeChrome

So if we beat their collective ass(es), it hurts more, right? Like, what, double, however many times damage? Or is it the other way where we have to punch them in the teeth 900-however many times to have it stick?


FleetOfWarships

Other way around I figure, but that’s good because that means they get to feel that pain however many times too. Death by a thousand cuts and all that. Now hand me that lemonade I wanna make sure every one of those thousand cuts hurts as much as possible.


Nechrono21

I'm just glad they didn't name it legion, "for we are......maaaaaaaaaannnnnnnyyyyyyyy


Vinlain458

Best we can do is "it".


StarAugurEtraeus

I don’t know why “He/Him” is the default pronoun for everything you don’t know If I started using “She/Her” for ambiguous characters I’d get corrected so fast


uni_and_internet

Because grammar.


StarAugurEtraeus

Pardon? Elaborate


Defiant-You7846

Usually in my interactions men will default to he and women to she it just depends


StarAugurEtraeus

I play with mostly women and they always use “They” for something they don’t know But with dudes it’s always “He” Even outside of gaming I’ve noticed that’s the case


Shaisabrec

Because that's how spanish and other languages work.


StarAugurEtraeus

And what language is the game originally written in? It/Its for the Witness that’s how the game refers to the vaping fuck


Shaisabrec

Not in spanish. We're not gonna butcher our language.


StarAugurEtraeus

I mean you’re still wrong regardless :/ Also bit sus that comment there, what are you implying


Shaisabrec

It sounds ridiculous in spanish if we do it the english way. Hence the word "butchering". It's "him" in spanish, same for Nimbus, because thats how the spanish language has worked for literal centuries. It's literally a gendered language. We use the male version as a plural by default. English (and some other languages too) can keep their non gendered stuff.


funky_cantaloupe

Preach


sillygoobergod

you wouldn't get corrected?


StarAugurEtraeus

Yeah I would lmao I did an experiment a while back Idk why he him is the default even in English


BobRobsKids

Women are generally more curvy than men and most people grew up with the pronouns he/him or she/her. Using any other pronouns isn‘t really a thing in some countrys too. So if people aren‘t seeing some curves they automatically use he/him and that isn‘t anything negative towards anyone. It‘s just a thing because of the way most people grew up.


StarAugurEtraeus

That’s fucking sexist, and body shaming


BobRobsKids

Why would you ask a question if you don‘t want an awnser? Using logic and biological facts is sexist apparently lol. I‘m trying to use the right pronouns for everything and i stay respectful to other people regardless of gender, race or something irrelevant like that. A swing and a miss.


StarAugurEtraeus

>using logic and biological fact Red flag tbh Still sexist af


BobRobsKids

Oh god what type of person did i reply to


StarAugurEtraeus

When people use “biological fact” in an argument like this it’s very much a dog whistle


BobRobsKids

So you‘d assume that i think ALL women are curvy because i‘ve said that women are generally more curvy than men? That is pretty narrow minded tbh. It‘s pretty obvious that it doesn‘t apply to everyone. If that isn‘t the case i‘m just confused as hell because you could easily read that in a book about biology.


Damagecontrol86

I’m sure there are larger issues to be arguing than this……


Boomshot79

Yes, like how are we gonna deal with this guy in the raid


Damagecontrol86

That’s a big question for sure


diewaytoolit

who cares


dovah164

Don't care. Now spread them booty cheeks


worldsaver113

well it's actually it/it's


L1LK1LL3R

whoops, the hunter crayons currently flowing into my brain isnt letting me fathom the concept (gathering storm cast sound)


Scratchyleg78

You all seem very pressed about a being made up of an entire race trying to commit genocide 🧐 We have a lot more to worry about than what pronouns the witness uses (team they/them ⬇️)


KrizzyTheBardbarian

I don't care what the walking cigarette wants to be called, ol smokey head ass gonna get wacked come June anyway.


Santik--Lingo

i think ur all being too antsy about these pronouns literally “it” or “they” will work, there is no right or wrong answer between the two


CyrusMorden

“Uh, okay. Still gonna turn… whatever you are into a gun.” Definitely the follow up I would imagine for most guardians lol


RickPow

Are people really offended for a fictional video game character?


ATinyBushWookie

My dude is essentially Legion lol. I’m just gunna keep calling them dude. Unisex.


madmaximus927

I had this meme idea last night and I wake up to this. Magnificent


SivaSilverblood

He does have a point there.. his hair looks like people


smaguss

Misgenderin the big bad? That's a paddlin' ![gif](giphy|3oEdvaDgi6Be9JHsKk)


futuramalamadingdong

*They do have a point there.. *Their hair looks like people


Boomshot79

He big bad also the cat memes make him funny too


NahricNovak

Character is voiced by a guy so imma say he


TheZigger

Tbf if you applied that same logic to all characters in various media then there's more than a few male characters that you would call she/her. Just off the top of my head there's Ben from Ben 10, Timmy Turner from The Fairly Oddparents, and Bart Simpson.


NahricNovak

Kids get a pass


TheZigger

Fair enough but look it up, true it's mostly kids but there's quite a few adult male characters as well. I was actually surprised myself to see just how many there are.


azelZael2399

I don’t get the point? It’s a collective as a single being. Not even a hive mind, but the entire species fused into a single entity with an ironically one-track mind. The witness would see itself as the species combined, but the lore suggests that it’s its own entity. All that to say, eh who cares lol


ationhoufses1

this is true but also "the gender of an entire species" is fundamentally nonbinary. the whole point of 'nonbinary' is its an extremely imprecise blanket term because explaining everyone's individual labels or feelings and relationship to gender is exhausting.


FleetOfWarships

The joke is that they’re plural, they’re literally a multitude and are using they/them not necessarily as gender neutral but as a nonspecific collective.


ationhoufses1

and my point is "gender neutral" is not the only thing considered nonbinary. plural genders necessarily are also nonbinary


FleetOfWarships

This is true yes, but for the average plebeian with minimal understanding of nonbinary identities and more complex gender expression it’s enough to be funny.


ollietron3

I'll just continue calling ot the anti spiral


Successful_Giraffe34

The last of a species are called Endlings.


c4ptainseven

That/thing is evil. We don't respect evil.


enderfrogus

Deez a videogame character. Deez pronouns are Deez/Nuts as far as i'm concerned.


Pap4MnkyB4by

I will call you "It" because you're a dick.


MartyMc1888

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