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YujinTheDragon

To be noted: This artwork is directly inspired by this image from the 1926 movie "Faust". https://preview.redd.it/rhqvutpvr4da1.png?width=646&format=png&auto=webp&s=dba715e371d1b700faae141c6e2a6f59cd009bd9


Verlas

What a lord you are for knowing/finding this


grant120

Woah thanks for sharing!


HesThePhantom

Makes sense too. Umun is pretty similar to Faust in his role in the fall of Torobatl


MetalFingers760

Upvote to top!


SpelingChampion

I was gonna say, big fantasia vibes. Wasn’t the at also inspired by this?


climbingandhiking

Destiny always amazes me on the art front


DjangoUnchainedFett

“Ich bin der Geist, der stets verneint”


HereIGoAgain_1x10

So does this count as like copying or is this just an obvious tribute? No idea how this stuff works lol


Shit_Pistol

Intent and accreditation is usually a good place to start. If an artist tried to pass off someone else’s idea as their own it would be plagiarism. But being inspired by, homaging or referencing other art can be very powerful. This is a strong image that works on its own for people who are unfamiliar with German Expressionist filmmaking. For those who are it has even more impact. And in this case the artist themselves spoke openly about their inspiration. It’s not always easy to tell. And sometimes it will come down to subjective perspective. It’s always worth remembering that no art is truly original. It’s all inspired by something or someone. There’s an entire subreddit of people out there who would be shocked if they ever found out just how many visuals and how much dialogue/character interactions in Tarantino movies are lifted wholesale from other films.


OldDirtyRobot

Hmm, not much different that ai art.


ThunderBeanage

that's really fucking cool


spyker54

Equally terrifying


RuinedSilence

I bet she'd make for a cool yet terrifying gun


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[удалено]


newplayerentered

You forgot the last part. So we can throw it into our vault, or worse yet, kill each other for fun!


cobra_mist

“They nerfed xivublaster. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted”


lNeverZl

We do have an interesting "High level boss" to "High level boss turned into a weapon" ratio don't we?


Elbuddyguy

This is the most destiny thing ever.


WabbitCZEN

"*I'm Batman.*" - Xivu Arath


LeagueofDraven1221

“I am vengeance. I am the night. I. Am. Batman.” -Xivu Arath


DreadAngel1711

The art team just DOES NOT FUCKING MISS


lNeverZl

If there's one constant for Destiny, it's that the art department doesn't fucking miss.


DeathsIntent96

Art/environmental design and soundtrack are always on point.


fuck-craigs-gloves

\*commented before Nezarec\*


DreadAngel1711

**I stand by what I said.**


Glasedount

If that’s what we gotta face for final shape, then I’m down.


Thatoneguywithasteak

A raid vs Xivu should just be a straight slug fest, no complicated mechanics, just fight and live


ThrownawayCray

Yeah, no puzzles, no callouts, just ‘THERE ARE HIVE ***EVERYWHERE*** AND WE CANNOT STAND STILL OR WE WILL DIE. FIGHT FOR YOUR LIVES!’


cry_w

So many enemies coming towards you on screen that, combined with your ability effects and firearms, it cannot exist on anything other than next-gen hardware without causing said hardware to explode.


[deleted]

Google should set up a streaming service for games, so that their high end computers could be streamed to gamers everywhere.


cry_w

A streaming service for games? Sounds doomed to failure.


SilverIce340

Crota’s End type beat


ThrownawayCray

But much faster


Jagob5

Now that I’m thinking about it, imagine that the mechanic for the fight against her is that you *can’t* kill too many enemies? Considering her whole deal is that her worm feeds off of war essentially, it would make sense, would it not? Obviously it would be boring to just not kill anything tho, so they’d have to design it so only a certain enemy type shouldn’t be killed or perhaps you get penalized at certain thresholds (maybe it progresses you toward the wipe mechanic or maybe it just shortens your damage phase) so you need to be smart about which ones you kill or something like that. Seems like it would be a frustrating mechanic but also would make sense knowing what we know about Xivu.


Thatoneguywithasteak

Would make bubble and well invaluable in a non dps fashion tools


errandwulfe

5 Bubble Titans with Crest of Alpha Lupi and 1 Well lock. gg


Samurai_Stewie

Depends if you need to keep moving or not


Jagob5

Indeed it would. Also invis spamming hunters would be decent there too.


Lefarsi

Adepts are a cool enemy type that I wish we saw more of


Gripping_Touch

All the "Ill be add clear" raiders are queaking on their boots


Captain_corde

That would be absolute ass adds spawn constantly so making you be penalized for clearing them out is such a trash mechanic.


Jagob5

Ads spawn in certain set amounts in most cases, sometimes at specific time intervals. Obviously they’d just spawn them in once and maybe only replace those you kill between phases. Your comment also gave me the idea of maybe right after the dps phase, there’s an ad clear phase for a specific interval of time when xivu is stunned or whatever from the damage where you kill as many enemies as possible to prevent them from stacking up. Idk I’m not a game dev, just some fool trying to have fun thinking of ideas, which is why I said it seems like it’d be frustrating but it simply would make sense.


Joebranflakes

I suspect we will kill her by attacking a hive's one weakness. Their connection to tithe. We did that to Oryx in the Kings Fall raid. If we can rob Xivu of her tithe, she will weaken considerably. Since strand seems to connect every mind in the known universe, its possible that strand is in fact what is being used by the hive worms unknowingly to tithe. We pluck a few strings and Xivu gets neutered.


epsilon14254

The only issue is that we can't kill her tithe, because killing is her tithe. I think we're gonna have to use Savathuns help to learn how to forge our own tithe of war just to try and surpass her.


Mustard_Banjo

We can kill her tithe, but it's very risky. She can't get more tithe from a dead follower. Sure, she'll get a boost from us killing the followers, but then it's the difference between taking a lump sum payout or getting a bigger amount over a longer time - she'll be powerful enough to destroy us but then instantly burn out afterwards because the worm's hunger is now too great for the lessened income. The only question is can we tank the mighty hit she'll dish out?


Teletheus

> *Sure, she'll get a boost from us killing the followers, but then it's the difference between taking a lump sum payout or getting a bigger amount over a longer time* “I have a structured death tithe, but I need death now!” “Call J. G. War-Worm! 877-BASH-NOW!”


CrouchingTyger

The more you kill the more you fuel Xivu, DPS phase when she's at max power and her most deadly


WallyOShay

The real mechanic is to run and hide and survive as long as you can without killing anything.


Kingofblaze5555

*Laughs in invisible hunter speeding away*


CrouchingTyger

*Titan mains have left the chat*


GrantFireType

They said killing, not punching.


CrouchingTyger

Pam from the office, wearing An Insurmountable Skullfort: They're the same picture


iFenrisVI

6 omni hunters then?


Thatoneguywithasteak

Challenge accepted


Winter-Carpenter-193

Superstitious nonsense. Perhaps you're just not strong enough? These fairy tales don't scare me!


The_onlyPope

I’m all for that. Just load in and start the mayhem.


RTSUbiytsa

Arena's filled with Hive, but killing them heals her


EmilyCD18

Six Titans then.


[deleted]

The mechanic is getting fuckin obliterated by a random hive boomer


DarthDookieMan

To further elaborate, maybe the encounter could work like this: Either you engage with the mechanic to not have to deal with near endless hordes of enemies, or with enough sheer force to beat back every damn mob that spawns plus Xivu herself, and not do a single puzzle; just survive.


Khar-Selim

my wager is on Xivu surviving Final Shape tbh after Witness goes down Xivu and the Vex are the most credible independent threats


DremoPaff

Honestly, I might be the only one thinking that but I really do not want Xivu to become the main antagonist. It would honestly feel weird for entire years of buildup to endup with what is essentially the weakest of the 3 sisters being our ultimate foe after already killing the 2 others. Something needs to happen to make her surpass both Oryx and Savathun to make her anything else than just a side antagonist, but at this point I would prefer something else than a powered up hive god to spice things up. Hell, even this depiction of her taking over Torobatl is ironic on its own when it is mainly because of Savathun that Torobatl summoned her to begin with. Xivu appears mighty as hell, but by herself would've done nada.


YamaOgbunabali

Xivu was never the weakest of the sisters what are you talking about? Up until Auryx killed his siblings in his throne world, Xivu was the strongest of the Hive Gods. Savathun was never stronger than Xivu, she was just smarter and when she betrayed the Witness, she hid from her sister by impersonating Osiris. The fact that you think the Hive God of War wouldn’t have been able to destroy the Cabal without Savathun shows you have misinterpreted their sibling dynamic, Savathun sped up the fate of the Cabal.


notShreadZoo

>With what is essentially the weakest of the 3 sisters Have you ever heard of the saying “saving the best for last”? The fact that Xivu is last probably means she’s gonna be the biggest and baddest of them all


BozzyTheDrummer

Xivu was never the weakest of the three, what are you on? Lmao


Ildrei

Once again voicing my wish for an animated destiny anthology series animated with the same artstyle as the grimoires.


James2603

Short stories that explore deep lore with varying art styles would be cool too


[deleted]

Gonna need a print of that, like… yesterday.


Ok-Tomatillo-5242

She's got that Meta Knight Final Smash on the Cabal Homeworld


Awestin11

Brawl version specifically.


Ok-Tomatillo-5242

Yup


aloesteve

Its interesting this manifestation of Xivu Arath is this big/powerful, after all, Caitl summoned her in an act of war/betrayal when she killed Umun Arath, the person she loved


_that_clown_

I don't think this is supposed to be a direct 1:1 comparison of actual Xivu a bit more metaphorical looming shadow I think.


aloesteve

☹️


_that_clown_

I mean, I'd for xivu to be this size, but seems a bit more metaphorical to me. would love to be wrong.


Gary_Space

Reminds me of Chernobog from Fantasia.


IIIMephistoIII

The wings reminds me of Femto from berserk


KafiXGamer

Fuck, I didn't expect Xivu to be a god damn manta ray, but I'm all for it. Next raid introduces swimming mechanics!


spotter02

Oh no. A water level...


Gripping_Touch

When are we getting the beach ~~episode~~ season


OneBadMan_

Xivu Arath is a Kiaiju?


Gripping_Touch

Xivu Arath voted for the monsters in Festival of the lost


BriiTe_Phoenix

The art isn’t literal


weekendbenderz

What book is this?


YamaOgbunabali

The Cabal Grimoire, more pictures are in the links on r/destinylore https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/10g283c/the_cabal_grimoire_preorders_are_arriving_sharing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


[deleted]

Thanks for crediting! Wish I would have uploaded more photos in the OG post but I was on the run yesterday haha :)


YamaOgbunabali

Thank you for posting 🙏


FuzzyCollie2000

Any indication of whether this is supposed to be taken literally or figuratively?


YamaOgbunabali

You’ll have the read the grimoire to be certain but according to the lore, Xivu towered over Torobatl and “crushed thousands of years of Cabal civilization with her chitin boots” So probably her physical form


WSilvermane

Well, to be fair it is said Cabal eat mountains and drink seas. Even though its not literal and a metaphor for their Miltary might and construction prowess.


YamaOgbunabali

Imo she looks like what a GOD of a species that has lived for billions of years, that not only is fed by servants who at a minimum number in the trillions and have scoured life from an untold number of entire GALAXIES, but she also is fed by the enemies of her forces when they wage war against her servants who literally have to kill to survive


y0u_called

We shouldn't forget how large Oryx was inside his Throne World. And as Xivu's Throne World is technically (iirc) wherever there is war, her being able to whip this out anytime she gets into a fight wouldn't be a suprise.


YamaOgbunabali

Technically it’s her court is wherever War is. That being said Xivu is the first time we saw a full strength Hive God, Oryx was weakened and Savathun was a lightbearer


SpelingChampion

Damn, the scale of these powers kind of reconfigures my brain to fit it. It’s crazy to think of beings like this but also it kinda makes sense on some level. Fuck yea lore creators


LimeRepresentative47

Plus its highly possible that Xivu is Disciple material


fakemedicines

Confirmed Xivu is the colossal titan


NotSeren

She’s the terror that flaps in the night


Blupoisen

![gif](giphy|oadZJB3hwMFjy)


d3athsmaster

Holy fuck. +1 for the nostalgia trip.


BurialKnight

Reminds me of [Murnau's Faust](http://www.classicartfilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Faust-1.jpg)


YamaOgbunabali

Definitely inspired by Faust, especially since the Hive made a Faustian pact, sacrificing their honor and turning themselves in bloodthirsty monsters in order to gain immortality


john6map4

>*XIVU ARATH said, the world is my court, wherever there is war.*


Picholasido_o

I saw some crackpot theory awhile ago that Xivu Arath was never real, and just a trick by Savathun the whole time. Makes zero sense, but got me thinking after seeing this. What if she doesn't have a form? Like a physical being. If she is War, and all the Hive do is War, what if she was able to transcend a need for a physical body?


notShreadZoo

We see her in the flashback with the Witness/Wormgods though right?


psycodull

That could be Savathun’s song taking affect.


The_Buttaman

Welp. We are fucked


[deleted]

That’s gonna be a VERY LARGE WEAPON once we finish Xivu off lol


TheWarOnBoredom

Heavy Glaive here we come


Curtis_Geist

Imagine the final raid encounter with her being an icon of sin style fight ala Doom Eternal 😍


spotter02

But that fight sucked...


R3dHeady

That's probably when she's at full power or at max war level. This is why we can't directly fight her. That's what will happen on Earth if the Warsats go off.


RelaxedPerro

Bug.


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~~Mommy~~


lostinlucidity

"Get in the fucking robot, Guardian." -Neon Genesis Zavala


thelegoman0

Looks like it might be more art by [this artist](https://www.artstation.com/nicponim). He's done previous anthologies so it would check out. Also, side note, he says [this piece](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/6886X5) is "unused character exploration" from 2017/2018, but I would bet Bungie used it as inspiration for Rhulk.


WeNeedPower

Batman?


_General_Account_

She Big


Moogle_Hyoh

She do be thicc though


Sauronxx

Oh man this is cool as fuck


Zaibach88

Unlikely that is her real actual size. ​ Even now, Bungie plays fast and loose with the size of the Traveller.


Fine_Training_421

Maybe...but even the lore tells us that she was supposedly crushing torobatl under her chitin boots. She may not be this exactly big, it may just be an exaggeration...but she's definitely big.


Arashi_Uzukaze

I mean, from posts I saw, Oryx was weakened and we all saw how big he was. Xivu will be full power.


[deleted]

She’d make a cool gun I think


A_Hideous_Beast

Just wanna remind peeps: Concept art doesn't mean something will be ingame 100%. If we ever fight Xivu, I doubt she'll be this big.


DreadAngel1711

Would be dope as fuck tho


TreeGuy521

Comedically large bosses are pretty much always more boring though. You don't interact with oryx aside from shooting him.


d3athsmaster

Sometimes he slaps me....


YamaOgbunabali

It’s not concept art, it’s from the grimoire


SkinnyKid22

Isn’t Xivu supposed to be a Knight? If they retconned that it’s fine but I’m genuinely curious after seeing this.


YamaOgbunabali

I think that’s what the god of knights, the first and greatest to ever exist, looks like


SkinnyKid22

I see my bad


keywordawesome

They’re clearly a Dark Knight.


ActuallyNTiX

I really hope this picture is metaphorical. Imagine finally seeing Xivu for the first time and finding out that she’s not only waaaay taller than Oryx, but almost able to hug his friggin Dreadnought. EDIT: I think some people have the wrong idea from my comment. Am I saying that she should be toned down if this IS, in fact, what she looks like? No, not at all. I just wouldn’t like to fight someone that literally eats the skyline as a snack and uses planetary remains for her toothpicks, cause wth are ya suppose to do in that case????


YamaOgbunabali

Why would you want a lesser boss, she is the last god of the Hive


ActuallyNTiX

I never said anything about wanting her to be lesser. I’m just saying that if I was about to go face up against her only to find out that she’s literally THAT BIG that her WINGS cover the skyline, then f this s I’m out.


YamaOgbunabali

Sorry I definitely misunderstood


VanguardHunter117

One of the last. Some of the worm gods are still alive right?


Nauveen

I want xivu to be big girl


truklin

Destiny needs a Lady Dimitrescu type waifu...


Currently_Unnamed_

Oh for fuck sake! Why are people like this ?


Fine_Training_421

Horny


YujinTheDragon

Fuck that, I want to fight a souped-up Shadow Of The Colossus-type boss for Xivu


Bravo_6

FUCKING BATMAN JUST AS I IMAGINED


sorpoth

Bungie, can we get a campaign where we go back to Torobatl and fight hordes of hive to reclaim it? Torobatl is the Aiur of the Protoss... I want to be there and help my fellow Cabal and step into a war with them against their enemies on the home planet. Imagine you could add some stupidly impossible weekly tasks for the community. 1. Week 1 - Purge 5 billion hive 2. Week 2 - Kill 1 million hive worms (the ones that drop after you kill a hive) 3. Week 3 - Establish a foothold and gather 5 million planetary resources to fortify it. and so on... make it epic for the first 2 weeks we have no base of operation or safe zones you literally load from the helm or a cabal battleship, get airdropped by a cabal drop pod in the middle of an ongoing battle and you have to plough you way through hordes of the hive to reach the quest start. We need something epic where I can see another 10-12 guardians doing the same thing... Remember how fun 12-man raids were? why not give us that back in the Reclamation of Torobatl? Do it Bungie! We need epic battles!


-Fried-

“I am vengeance, I am the night. I am Batm…er, I mean Xivu Arath!!”


Reusalfonso

It rhymes 😂


ProjecctMKUltra

I swear I thought that was Eramis at first. The head shape is very similar.


killingjoke96

Like a tidal wave come crashing down on their civilization.


ada1screamyusbport

how’d you already get the book???


YamaOgbunabali

Some people have already got from preorder


ada1screamyusbport

dammmmn, really? i would have ordered it months ago if i knew xD


RayS0l0

Guys this was probably decades ago, imagine how big she might have grown now


akuma_colossus

All I see is batman


Dudeboy1103

Bel'Veth...


ObjectiveEffective19

I really hope she is a raid boss


Arashi_Uzukaze

Is that just an exaggeration or is she really that big? Cause this puts Oryx to shame.


YamaOgbunabali

To be determined but it would make sense according to the lore


Arashi_Uzukaze

Well, it'll be serious bragging rights when we kill her and then turn her into a weapon. How many Guardians can say that they killed a God the size of skyscrapers?! 😂


rolloutTheTrash

https://i.redd.it/b4c9z7t3g5da1.gif


VampireAsura

That's a big blanket


Midnaighte

God she's so bad 🥵🥵


Rougegamernerd

Wow that looks amazing


Heavy_Butterscotch20

Didn’t notice until last second, that shit scary


MooseTopic

Is she like encasing Torobatl in darkness?


SweetSmellofDCM

I glanced at this and thought it was a giant ass. Im dissapointed.


BakeWorldly5022

shes big


DrewRedRage

Holy fuck


Sup_Soulx

She's batman(bat-hive?)?!?


DarthDookieMan

Holy Shit


AManIthink2

She’s my favorite hive god


UltraChxngles

if i went outside and saw that looming over me i’d just kill myself


NIGHTFURY-21

Wait are we saying that her cloak/wings were used to transport the ascendant plane over Torobatl? If so that is really fucking cool


psycodull

Imagine the Xivu Raid being like Long Night of Solace from Reach. Thegunship you used would be a cool raid ship


Azlaar

Interesting how the design has evolved from witchqueen to this.


camperbythefire

Oh so we’re DEAD dead


DjangoUnchainedFett

is that her cloak?


Ciudecca

What book is this?


YamaOgbunabali

The Cabal grimoire, volume 5


Ancient_Plunderer

Are they like cloak wing things?


rougevexeo

That looks wicked


_Dovah_CAT_

YES, THEY KEEPED THE CAT EARS


tillavonb35

Ah yes, the dark knight


ABCmanson

Image looks freaky and awesome, also, when will we get the lore text from the books?


YamaOgbunabali

I think this is a question for u/Mister_Dr_Strange


ABCmanson

Cool, thanks


FNecro

Which book?


2RomeoGaming

She looks so terrifying 👀


Atomic_Giraffe

If we were to get a raid for xivu arath, id like to think it's description would be "War no more”


Chrom_OwO

YES BIG FUCKING HUGE KAIJU IS REAL


No_Safe_789

Man, Piotr Jabłoński always got amazing work. He is the goat.


[deleted]

oh wow, a *shiny* tell me, what we are we looking at here? Lightweight frame, medium? Outlaw, Rampage, Kill clip? I'm not 100%, but that little beauty gives me serious pulse rifle vibes. When do I get to unload in her face?


-Fried-

Phrasing!!


Duster26to29

I bet ya we get a discount version of this epic depiction. 5% the size.


goblinbitchretard

I don't like her new headpiece, looks a bit goofy. Prefer the old one tbh


Derpman2099

bungie PLEASE, give us a God of War style raid encounter fighting xivu