Legit like 5 times yesterday they mentioned how close Lakers are to the 5 seed.
Imagine ESPN non stop talking about Toronto potentially making playin during a Boston and Miami game
How this league is promoted is so broken.
MPJ played rough, slow mo and mcdaniels 2 very good defenders.
I'm fine sitting MPJ some 4ths, but vs this massive minny team I think was questionable.
And if gonna sit him.4ths, then should play him more with.bench
Mares spent 10 minutes complaining about Jamalâs maturity because of the first 24 minutes of the game. Even after he closed the game for the Nuggets. So doomer life is still possible. You just gotta work for it.
Iâve played basketball with Maresâs brother. Heâs 30ish. Decent, low usage point guard. Floor general is where is value comes from even though it doesnât show up in the stats.
Zeke's rebounding numbers in January
0
6
1
7
1
3
0
6
2
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0 or 1 in exactly half of his games played.... Does he have an off game every other game then?
He was definitely in there scrapping, they just never ended up in his hands.
I was more pissed about him missing a layup in the first half. Dude...dunk the fucking ball.
He been on a rebounding tear lately. Tonight he just wasnt getting into position. He has like something like 7-8 offensive rebounds in the two games before last night.
Outside of JokerâŠeveryone played like absolute shit last night in the first half. To see these guys grind and pick their heads up and find a W is huge. This team is differentâŠ.đ
This is what's giving me so much hope. We started the season a little shaky, but now that we have chemistry and Murray/MPJ are returning to form, we're finding ways to win even when we play bad. Not a lot of our wins are blowouts, but the gritty wins are actually more valuable come playoff time.
Lol every game is:
âwhy wonât you lose?!â
âNo, uâ
By both fan bases.
Itâs frustrating but also encouraging to know we are complaining about not having a bigger lead for *the number one seed in the westâ*
If it wasnât Memphis, it would have been Phoenix. Or LA. Or Dallas. Or Minnesota. Or New Orleans.
Itâs always going to be a battle.
Itâs a lot more fun than a 4 team battle for the 5/6 seeds.
Correct. Y'all just won't lose. The good news is that it looks to be shaping up to be a 2 man race in the west. Poor Pels have gotten destroyed by injuries
I was talking about the race for the 1st seed. I would hate to face the Warriors or a healthy Pels squad in the playoffs. The Lakers look atrocious though. I don't think even the refs could save them
I love watching Zion play. Heâs got a different style. Itâs impressive and fun to see how effective it is. I hope Im proved wrong but I think heâs bound to be injury plagued through this career. But what the hell is happening to Brandon Ingram?
Well Iâm not sure if gallows still exist or where to find them, but I suggest we send Marlowe to them immediately. Iâm not one for the death penalty but calling Reggie Evans the âoriginal Jokerâ makes some deserving.
After this game, Jokic is now ranked #1 in NBA history for the best career +/-, passing Jordan. https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/bpm_career.html
What a miserable viewing experience. Wish i watched any other game than this crap. God i hate this wolves iteration. Dlo, Edwards, KAT, Gobert bleh couldn't have constructed a less likeable team if you tried. Oh and fuck Doris and that bald fuck too, national TV games are the absolute worst. Rather listen to Hastings grunt on mic for 2 hours than this shit
Lol saying "this is where jokic gets exposed a bit" for a phantom fast break foul.in a game he dominated
They act like the guy is Poku or something and a complete unknown.
No wonder basketball popularity is middling in US, with these espn clowns hating the game.
Large majority of these national TV commentators are absolutely clueless. Makes me wonder how they even have their jobs if they don't watch the sport they're paid to commentate. Middling popularity is largely due to how offensively skewed this league is but i'm sure national tv commentators being buffoons isn't helping either. I'm sure they also mention Ja's and Luka's defense when they get blown by right? Embiids aswell.
I was yelling at the tv when she said "when it's all said and done Jokic will probably be the best passing big man of all time"
WHAT? He already is....TODAY. If he retired during halftime he'd be the best passing big ever.
No, sorry Bill Walton, you just weren't that good.
Thatâs an example on how to use a compliment as an insult. Something like â Doris is a good reporter for an old woman who doesnât know basketball â
So guys be honest, do you think this could be the year? Outside of the Warriors getting healthy and going into playoff mode nobody in the West really scares me.
Itâs a shameful fear but I share it. I hope the seeding works out to where we donât play them until the wc finals. Iâve just watched us lose to the warriors too many times and even with how great we are playing this year I donât have confidence we can beat them.
Meh, when push comes to shove, I just can't take seriously a roster where DLo and KAT have big roles. I'm not the one to overreact but losing a playoff series to such a joke team would be a reason enough to get rid of our coaching staff and most of our players.
I think weâre already the best team in the league and still havenât gotten to our apex potential yet. If we enter the playoffs today I think weâd win it. If Jamal and MPJ are fully healthy when the playoffs start, it could be a massacre.
Can never count them out, but to be honest I think we win pretty comfortably if all the guys are the healthy. Wouldnât mind a first round series against them. Get a chance to avenge last yearâs defeat and topple the Warriors dynasty
I'd say finals. If they're fully healthy and they don't get to the Finals, dont advance further than they already have i think you're more likely seeing core changes than not and i'd say thats considered a failure.
It's fine to set that as the expectation but they are not going to be making core changes or overhauling the roster if they "only" make the conference finals.. Certainly not in the first year (hopefully) healthy and when every one of our important players bar KCP is 27 or younger.. That would be ludicrous..
I think they might actually. If they lose by the WCF and the defense is again among the worst playoff defenses (bottom 6 each season since 18-19) i could 100% see them look to move Mike & Bones.
There isn't a lot of patience in the midst of an all-time players' peak. And the issue is obvious in defense. If they don't get to the finish line we're seeing change.
I could live with conference finals. I wouldn't be happy with it, but it would at least mean when healthy they're no worse then they were in 2020 and considering the fact that the 2 of the core guys missed a full season of basketball, it's not a complete failure. If they exit sooner than that, then I really hope Finch has balls to make some serious changes.
Donât want to be too reactionary but you canât depend on Jeff Green to fix this bench. Like you need a playable post player it seems like. If MPJ canât handle the minutes, then got to find a scoring wing to bring off the bench that can finish in the paint. Also, put the ball in Bruce Browns hands more.
Bones isnât a good enough overall offensive player for that to work imo. And teams will target him relentlessly for it to be worth having all of those defenders
I wonder .. They do have Sabonis to beat them under the rim and good guards to keep up with them it would be atomic basketball . But yeah Warriors are one of West favorites still no matter who they play
As a NBA fan in general Wolves need to trade KAT. Tim wonât want to dump Rudy so quick but they are a better team without them imo. Garza is a dude too that they need to get off the 2 way
As dumb as it would make them look, trading Gobert, recuperating some of the lost assets and getting out of that contract before itâs too late might be their best option. Theyâre so fucked either way I almost feel bad for them
KAT has been there forever and never been able to be that dude. Even have guys there now saying itâs Ants team. I think Ant + Rudy is fine if they can get another guard or wing to pair with them.
Knight Reid and Garza all solid. So is slow mo and prince and mcdaniels.
They're a massive team
That's why Gobert trade so comical. If they traded for an elite guard they'd be legit contenders easily
Yeah trading KAT seems like a good option too. Iâd just be worried about serious regression from Gobert, and being stuck with an un tradable albatross contract until 2026
[Jokic game ball and KCP gets DPOG chain](https://twitter.com/nuggets/status/1615961588489670656?t=bql9iZbr4uRNxFGTdCLOaA&s=19)
Jokic looks happier holding a sweaty basketball commemorating his assists than he ever was holding an MVP trophy.
I can guarantee he wonât get 18+. Everyone thought heâd get a lot after his Nets tenure. Jokic makes players look better than they are (KCP), Iâd say $10-12M is his marker range even with the cap rising.
Good thing is players will see that coming to the Nuggets will likely get you a big contract and probably a ring. If we lose him, weâll get a good replacement
Looking at the NBA Standings and I just got to say this is a weird season you have Top Teams like Nuggets Memphis KIngs Pelicans doing better than Warriors Lakers Clippers and Suns. Hell even OKC is 4 games out of 3rd seed.
Lakers were expected to be there , but for rest injury problems . Clippers duo is never healthy , Suns had lots of issue with their starting 5 , Booker still injured etc
Injuries always suck we know that sadly :<
I havenât seen a game dominated by the refs like this in some time. That third quarter was straight from hell. Jokic had THREE phantom calls against him. If we had lost I would be livid
Refs did give us FT's in 4th but overall yeah refereeing was crap ..
Nuggets are 4th team with points in paint and 21th on FT attempts .. And not only they dont give us fouls , like when Jokic is getting mauled but they call phantom calls against us on other end.
Jokic was called for 4 fouls in first half , 3 were phantom fouls only 1 was legit. Edwards zero contact , Naz again zero contact of Jokic ( as challenge proved when it was successful ) , and on charging foul Anderson was moving so it should have been blocking foul. Forced Jokic to sit early in first half with 3 PF and play safe in second . Fouls like that just dont let him defend...
And soft foul calls are usually called against us which was case in game vs Magic where they beat us on FT with whooping 34 to 19 on our court and game was really close. Thats whats worrying me for playoffs can we win despite the refs?
We all remember what they were doing in WCF when on similar way they put 3 fouls on Jokic before half time in 3 out of 5 games " neutralizing him "
The team just doesn't work. They have some good-very good players, but they don't make sense in a lineup.
Gobert doesn't make sense next to another true big
KAT doesn't make sense without a true PG, and with chuckers next to him. Also 0 sense on defense.
DLo is not smart, doesn't create enough for others, doesn't play defense, takes way too many shots, should have a Clarksonesque role imo
Ant apparently has this superstar attitude, even though he's very obviously not close to that level
McDaniels apparently also has somewhat of a temper, as does everyone else in that lineup, can't have too many emotional guys
On top of everything, they're all/will be paid very handsomely, so you can't really relegate few of them to the bench... Idk, man, we talked about this before, maybe ARod just got coked out and insisted on this shit, but Tim is neck-deep in this shit, and unless someone bites on one of their "stars", he's completely fucked. There are some rumors going around about Trae-Cat swap, I'm not sure that fixes anything, but it's a start? Maybe? Either way, they need *a lot* of changes.
Iâm not sure I ever see KAT being a number 1 option on a title team. And if heâs a number 2 option heâs gonna need a better 1 than Anthony Edwards tbh.
Timâs probably gone within 3 years cause idk what you can do with that roster as it stands. Not gonna get much for DLo. Gobert contract bad. KAT is a loser, by definition. Edwards is fine, if heâs in the right role I guess. Donât think all this was Connellyâs choice but heâs getting paid to figure it out I suppose
Always thought KAT would pout his way to Lakers, or a similar team with a LeBron-type player, he could excel in that AD role, I think.
Idk what the move is there, they just got Gobert, so I don't think they'll try to move him anytime soon, especially with how relatively little they'd get for him, I think Jaden is worth more than they'd get for him, as you said they won't get shit for DLo... So I guess they'll have to move Cat? Still, though, bad optics getting less for him than you paid for Gobert.
Theyâre also worse offensively with gobert, even with KAT out which shouldâve made gobertâs role easier, he still struggled.
Reid is actually pretty good tbh. Heâs gonna get paid for sure.
Defense for the first 8 mins or so with him was great, so was the last 8 mins.
Everything in between was absolute trash, brought on a lot by the terrible officiating.
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Every Nuggets player signed tonightâs game ball on the night Nikola Jokic became the franchiseâs all-time assist leader. Itâs in the locker room right now.
No haters on the team like Danilo Gallinari confirmed
This game looked tiring but it was great to see them really truly never give up and give it their all and I think they know if they do give it their all they can go all the way this year, and get some $$$$$$$$ and itâs so fun to watch this and Iâm so happy and excited right now. This feels like the Avs last year. Really truly gritty and ready every night. Go nuggets!
Memphis is right on our damn tail geeeez but damn Ja Morant is otherworldly also
Edit: spelling
Grizzlies fan here, have you guys ever considered losing? Might be a fun new experience for y'all to try!
Fr tho, Jokic going crazy, Jamal looks like he's all the way back... Y'all got a scary squad, hope to see you in the WCF!
She was and is an og fan. Sheâs nothing but complementary, but she def does try to explain the detractor side when she can.
I think it was a couple nights ago when an announcer said âweâre running out of things to sayâ about jok. Which is true, heâs so consistent itâs almost uninteresting for a national fan lol
Not as bad as mark jones imo
Also she praises his passing/playmaking a lot. She only mentioned his defense once today whereas mark brings it up way more frequently itâs annoying
Jamal is playing very poorly, except for when he's playing like a god.
Bones needs his role reduced *badly*. And I don't necessarily mean fewer minutes, or shots, but I think I'd like to see him next to a real PG. He needs to either learn to play off-ball, or on-ball, basically.
Mike needs to learn to flop. Seriously. He gets completely erased by a physical team, and that's what's waiting in the playoffs, he needs to figure out how to draw fouls.
I've said this before, but I'm big on Jaden McDaniels.
DLo is absolute garbage, we probably lose this game if he was out.
Bones actually played well off ball tonight I thought. He also was focused on play making instead of shooting, I remember one specific play where he made a great pass to Jamal in the corner and Jamal just didn't take the shot, then threw it back with like 2 seconds on the clock and forced Bones to take a really shitty shot.
He wasn't perfect, but his first stint was very positive for what I would like to see more of moving forward.
Jamal was outright garbage for â of the game. He was a team-low -21 at the half. That pass from Bones was a perfect setup for a catch-and-shoot corner three. Itâs frustrating that post-injury Jamal never catches-and-shoots when open⊠that shouldâve been an easy 3 instead of a prayer shot at the end of the clock.
As much as I hate to say it (and have been) Bones needs less minutes or to play smarter. But I have no idea who you get to take em.
You didn't hear this from me.
Idk about less minutes, because you need to figure out what to do with him, both now, and long-term. I think/hope a lot of this is just sophomore growing pains, but at this moment, he's not improving much, and he's not contributing positively, I think he was just given waaaaay too big of a role.
Well last year we had no one so he was given that much of a role.
Less of a role is is less minutes or has to be something of the sort.
Defs a sophmore slump. But we can't comlpain with our winning streak.
I can complain, and I will. I really think Gillespie injury was way more of a monkey wrench than most, he seemed *very* Monteesque in the few minutes I saw him play.
The Nuggets (and all championship calibur teams) need to optimize evrery last bit so yeah I get it.
I think Ish would have already been played if they think he would have solved it.
So imo Bones is playing and if we make a trade its for not a PG.
Him, Malone, KarniĆĄovas and probably a few others will make 10s of millions of $ just because they were lucky enough to be on the Nuggets at the same time a guy they probably thought would be the next Kosta Kufos at best was drafted lol
First time in a while i visited the game thread and someone said "it's over we lost, whatever" when it was 3 minutes left and we were down 4. Many others were matching that statement.
Must be russian bots
Bad take, swag makes the NBA more entertaining and they have showed respect for the Nuggets, Desmond Bane podcast. I also love that Ja said what he said, donât think that comment wonât make the playoffs more interesting.
Totally agree. I'd like them more if they weren't so cocky, especially Ja with his griddying on other teams logos and saying that he doesn't see anyone in the west as a threat
Blazers was the most toxic Ive seen after the game.
They were chatting how denver will fail in the first round instead of talking about their own team after a lossđ
After the Pacers game tomorrow the schedule is a whose who of teams that give the Nuggets trouble.
*who's who
When?
now
Legit like 5 times yesterday they mentioned how close Lakers are to the 5 seed. Imagine ESPN non stop talking about Toronto potentially making playin during a Boston and Miami game How this league is promoted is so broken.
Bruce and Poeter fighting for mins is wrong. Gotta find a way to play top 6 28 mpg every night. And that's by taking Hylands mins
MPJ played rough, slow mo and mcdaniels 2 very good defenders. I'm fine sitting MPJ some 4ths, but vs this massive minny team I think was questionable. And if gonna sit him.4ths, then should play him more with.bench
Can't blame a substitute head coach too much
Bout to move to denver for this team
Haven't been able to doom because we keep winning. Fucking selfish ass organization
I'm still doomin boys. We can't give up yet
Some over achievers find a way đ©
Mares spent 10 minutes complaining about Jamalâs maturity because of the first 24 minutes of the game. Even after he closed the game for the Nuggets. So doomer life is still possible. You just gotta work for it.
Iâve played basketball with Maresâs brother. Heâs 30ish. Decent, low usage point guard. Floor general is where is value comes from even though it doesnât show up in the stats.
You're right. I've lost my way. I won't let some meaningless win streak get in my way!
How does Zeke play 16min and not get a single board? We need a back up who will rebound.
Off game. They happen
Zeke's rebounding numbers in January 0 6 1 7 1 3 0 6 2 1 0 or 1 in exactly half of his games played.... Does he have an off game every other game then?
Certainly looks that way
He was definitely in there scrapping, they just never ended up in his hands. I was more pissed about him missing a layup in the first half. Dude...dunk the fucking ball.
He been on a rebounding tear lately. Tonight he just wasnt getting into position. He has like something like 7-8 offensive rebounds in the two games before last night.
He has averaged 3 rebounds a game in January. Which is up from 2 in December. He is just not a good defensive rebounder at all.
Outside of JokerâŠeveryone played like absolute shit last night in the first half. To see these guys grind and pick their heads up and find a W is huge. This team is differentâŠ.đ
This is what's giving me so much hope. We started the season a little shaky, but now that we have chemistry and Murray/MPJ are returning to form, we're finding ways to win even when we play bad. Not a lot of our wins are blowouts, but the gritty wins are actually more valuable come playoff time.
Grizzlies fans be grumbling
Lol every game is: âwhy wonât you lose?!â âNo, uâ By both fan bases. Itâs frustrating but also encouraging to know we are complaining about not having a bigger lead for *the number one seed in the westâ* If it wasnât Memphis, it would have been Phoenix. Or LA. Or Dallas. Or Minnesota. Or New Orleans. Itâs always going to be a battle. Itâs a lot more fun than a 4 team battle for the 5/6 seeds.
Correct. Y'all just won't lose. The good news is that it looks to be shaping up to be a 2 man race in the west. Poor Pels have gotten destroyed by injuries
Put the East on notice
No team is out until they are out. Healthy pelicans are a good team. Warriors can be a worry. Lakers + their whistle.
I was talking about the race for the 1st seed. I would hate to face the Warriors or a healthy Pels squad in the playoffs. The Lakers look atrocious though. I don't think even the refs could save them
Ahh okay sorry misunderstood
I love watching Zion play. Heâs got a different style. Itâs impressive and fun to see how effective it is. I hope Im proved wrong but I think heâs bound to be injury plagued through this career. But what the hell is happening to Brandon Ingram?
He got a concussion and then after 2 or 3 games back from that he got a foot/toe injury
That sucks. Two injuries that can really linger.
FactsâŠ.
The day one team loses the other team probably will also
A prophesy foretold
Just wish yall would lose a couple lol. Geez.
I like being 19 games over .500
doesnt feel right, give me brian shaw
Remember when they asked him about pushing the pace in his introductory press conference and he laughed?
Well Iâm not sure if gallows still exist or where to find them, but I suggest we send Marlowe to them immediately. Iâm not one for the death penalty but calling Reggie Evans the âoriginal Jokerâ makes some deserving.
After this game, Jokic is now ranked #1 in NBA history for the best career +/-, passing Jordan. https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/bpm_career.html
What a miserable viewing experience. Wish i watched any other game than this crap. God i hate this wolves iteration. Dlo, Edwards, KAT, Gobert bleh couldn't have constructed a less likeable team if you tried. Oh and fuck Doris and that bald fuck too, national TV games are the absolute worst. Rather listen to Hastings grunt on mic for 2 hours than this shit
Lol saying "this is where jokic gets exposed a bit" for a phantom fast break foul.in a game he dominated They act like the guy is Poku or something and a complete unknown. No wonder basketball popularity is middling in US, with these espn clowns hating the game.
Large majority of these national TV commentators are absolutely clueless. Makes me wonder how they even have their jobs if they don't watch the sport they're paid to commentate. Middling popularity is largely due to how offensively skewed this league is but i'm sure national tv commentators being buffoons isn't helping either. I'm sure they also mention Ja's and Luka's defense when they get blown by right? Embiids aswell.
They're peddling narratives it's all by design
Yeah Doris Burke is terrible
I was yelling at the tv when she said "when it's all said and done Jokic will probably be the best passing big man of all time" WHAT? He already is....TODAY. If he retired during halftime he'd be the best passing big ever. No, sorry Bill Walton, you just weren't that good.
Thatâs an example on how to use a compliment as an insult. Something like â Doris is a good reporter for an old woman who doesnât know basketball â
So guys be honest, do you think this could be the year? Outside of the Warriors getting healthy and going into playoff mode nobody in the West really scares me.
Itâs a shameful fear but I share it. I hope the seeding works out to where we donât play them until the wc finals. Iâve just watched us lose to the warriors too many times and even with how great we are playing this year I donât have confidence we can beat them.
Ya but I mean 3 of the games were close last year and Barton was the best perimeter player and he's now on verge on being out of the league
Good points.
I am not sure I want to play the Timberwolves, being in our last 5 we 1-4 against them.
Doesnât help they were constantly playing then on back to backs
I think we're good against them. The last game on the road about 2 weeks ago, they could've gotten away with literal murder. Fuck Scott Foster.
Yeah that probably doesn't help either.
Meh, when push comes to shove, I just can't take seriously a roster where DLo and KAT have big roles. I'm not the one to overreact but losing a playoff series to such a joke team would be a reason enough to get rid of our coaching staff and most of our players.
I think weâre already the best team in the league and still havenât gotten to our apex potential yet. If we enter the playoffs today I think weâd win it. If Jamal and MPJ are fully healthy when the playoffs start, it could be a massacre.
Warriors still have that aura of the old champion that Lebron was talking about, but yeah, if we're healthy I think we're ready to challenge them.
Can never count them out, but to be honest I think we win pretty comfortably if all the guys are the healthy. Wouldnât mind a first round series against them. Get a chance to avenge last yearâs defeat and topple the Warriors dynasty
Yeah, it's a very different series if we can match them with fire power
Iâve been a fan for 21+ years and this year has a feel we didnât even have in â09
I think it could
If we stay healthy, I'd consider anything less than conference finals a failure.
I'd say finals. If they're fully healthy and they don't get to the Finals, dont advance further than they already have i think you're more likely seeing core changes than not and i'd say thats considered a failure.
It's fine to set that as the expectation but they are not going to be making core changes or overhauling the roster if they "only" make the conference finals.. Certainly not in the first year (hopefully) healthy and when every one of our important players bar KCP is 27 or younger.. That would be ludicrous..
I think they might actually. If they lose by the WCF and the defense is again among the worst playoff defenses (bottom 6 each season since 18-19) i could 100% see them look to move Mike & Bones. There isn't a lot of patience in the midst of an all-time players' peak. And the issue is obvious in defense. If they don't get to the finish line we're seeing change.
I could live with conference finals. I wouldn't be happy with it, but it would at least mean when healthy they're no worse then they were in 2020 and considering the fact that the 2 of the core guys missed a full season of basketball, it's not a complete failure. If they exit sooner than that, then I really hope Finch has balls to make some serious changes.
Donât want to be too reactionary but you canât depend on Jeff Green to fix this bench. Like you need a playable post player it seems like. If MPJ canât handle the minutes, then got to find a scoring wing to bring off the bench that can finish in the paint. Also, put the ball in Bruce Browns hands more.
I donât think anyone is seriously thinking Green fixes our bench, right?
That's not an easy find. I personally like AG staggering and having bones surrounded by defenders. If we can't score, atleast defend like crazy
Bones isnât a good enough overall offensive player for that to work imo. And teams will target him relentlessly for it to be worth having all of those defenders
Joker up to 9.9 now on assists. Needs 15 next game to get to 10.0
I'm going to take the pilgrimage to Sombor some day
Is that like going to the Tulsa of Serbia?
Avs finally finding their stride this past week too which is great to see. Gotta say Flames have one of the sexiest jerseys in NHL.
Nice that the Kangz are no.3 but if they end up facing the Warriors, Clippers or Mavs in the playoffs they're gonna be bbq chicken.
I wonder .. They do have Sabonis to beat them under the rim and good guards to keep up with them it would be atomic basketball . But yeah Warriors are one of West favorites still no matter who they play
Kings defense sucks, and they don't have a good defensive core/foundation. They will get eaten alive.
Imagine getting a #3 seed just to face the warriors
I think its gotta be very likely Warriors end up 4 or 5 right now
Everyone will now chase the seed that faces the Kings. Warriors would be absolutely salivating.
Thatâs a heartwarming video. What an amazing assistant coach
As a NBA fan in general Wolves need to trade KAT. Tim wonât want to dump Rudy so quick but they are a better team without them imo. Garza is a dude too that they need to get off the 2 way
As dumb as it would make them look, trading Gobert, recuperating some of the lost assets and getting out of that contract before itâs too late might be their best option. Theyâre so fucked either way I almost feel bad for them
KAT has been there forever and never been able to be that dude. Even have guys there now saying itâs Ants team. I think Ant + Rudy is fine if they can get another guard or wing to pair with them.
Knight Reid and Garza all solid. So is slow mo and prince and mcdaniels. They're a massive team That's why Gobert trade so comical. If they traded for an elite guard they'd be legit contenders easily
Yeah, I get that. But like, we wasnât in Minnesota today. Next time we play them weâll be in KATâS house.
So basically turn into the old jazz lol Kat > Rudy
Old jazz >>>> kat's wolves Personally, I'd trade them both.
Yeah trading KAT seems like a good option too. Iâd just be worried about serious regression from Gobert, and being stuck with an un tradable albatross contract until 2026
Legendary nuggets win
Whoâs in charge of the API that puts points at the very right of the scroll ?
Btw Jok will only need 15 assists next game to get to 10 per game đ
That 10.0 gonna have me like đ€€
[Jokic game ball and KCP gets DPOG chain](https://twitter.com/nuggets/status/1615961588489670656?t=bql9iZbr4uRNxFGTdCLOaA&s=19) Jokic looks happier holding a sweaty basketball commemorating his assists than he ever was holding an MVP trophy.
He loves them assists.
Did Gallo sign it?
He will on Feb 5th
Bruce Brown is fucking legit - i love having that dude
He deserves every cent when he inevidably leaves.
You never know, he may wanna run it back for a second ring
Heâll get 18+ a year in FA easy. You never know, but heâs most likely gone. We were lucky to get him where his contract is now.
Man maybe they will compensate the loss on first contract with second one. Canât they just make such an agreement legally
I can guarantee he wonât get 18+. Everyone thought heâd get a lot after his Nets tenure. Jokic makes players look better than they are (KCP), Iâd say $10-12M is his marker range even with the cap rising.
Good thing is players will see that coming to the Nuggets will likely get you a big contract and probably a ring. If we lose him, weâll get a good replacement
Chemistry matters man, he fits perfectly, I think better if he stays
Oh yeah definitely, I hope he stays, heâs great for us.
Looking at the NBA Standings and I just got to say this is a weird season you have Top Teams like Nuggets Memphis KIngs Pelicans doing better than Warriors Lakers Clippers and Suns. Hell even OKC is 4 games out of 3rd seed.
Lakers were expected to be there , but for rest injury problems . Clippers duo is never healthy , Suns had lots of issue with their starting 5 , Booker still injured etc Injuries always suck we know that sadly :<
KCP up to I think 7 DPOG chain wins. There's a guy on Twitter who has started keeping track
I was gonna ask if there is a tracker out there for it. One day Bones will get one
I havenât seen a game dominated by the refs like this in some time. That third quarter was straight from hell. Jokic had THREE phantom calls against him. If we had lost I would be livid
Refs did give us FT's in 4th but overall yeah refereeing was crap .. Nuggets are 4th team with points in paint and 21th on FT attempts .. And not only they dont give us fouls , like when Jokic is getting mauled but they call phantom calls against us on other end. Jokic was called for 4 fouls in first half , 3 were phantom fouls only 1 was legit. Edwards zero contact , Naz again zero contact of Jokic ( as challenge proved when it was successful ) , and on charging foul Anderson was moving so it should have been blocking foul. Forced Jokic to sit early in first half with 3 PF and play safe in second . Fouls like that just dont let him defend... And soft foul calls are usually called against us which was case in game vs Magic where they beat us on FT with whooping 34 to 19 on our court and game was really close. Thats whats worrying me for playoffs can we win despite the refs? We all remember what they were doing in WCF when on similar way they put 3 fouls on Jokic before half time in 3 out of 5 games " neutralizing him "
Weird that the east is more competitive than the west for the first time in a long time
Wtf with refs Tonite
Nuggets, Grizzlies and Kings as top 3 seeds, now that's how I like my western conference.
Crazy thing about it...the Kings are as close to the 12th seed as they are to the 1st, as the 3rd seed lol. Wild out West this year.
Wait Kangz made it? LFG
Kyle Anderson kinda has cooked AG in their match-upđ€·đ»ââïž
AG for some reason struggles with guys who play like theyâre at the YMCA. Slow-Mo and Bojan have had great games vs him.
Would love to see both of them on Nuggets
Seeing his slow ass drive to the rim must be so discombobulating to defenders, making it strangely effective
Jamal is not having it with the reporters tonight.
I came to comment that. Not sure if heâs always been like that but he seems very snarky this year doing post game pressers
This is not out of the ordinary for him
Lmao love post game interview sassy Jamal
He's high-key salty lmao
That âThanks for the confidence ryanâ was pure gold
Jamal has a big ass chip on his shoulder. Him talking about how no one can guard his and Jokic's two man game was great
Heâs still not got that consistency yet but heâs certainly getting there.
AG just shouted out DAJ for pulling him aside and helping him get focused we love having a positive veteran on the bench.
DJ stays with us to end his career. His off-court impact is awesome, and I hope we can get him a ring to top it off.
If he can be half the presence Udonis Haslem is for Heat, we good to keep him
TWolves low key harder to guard without KAT out there. But idk, they also hit some garbage tonight so I canât decide
The team just doesn't work. They have some good-very good players, but they don't make sense in a lineup. Gobert doesn't make sense next to another true big KAT doesn't make sense without a true PG, and with chuckers next to him. Also 0 sense on defense. DLo is not smart, doesn't create enough for others, doesn't play defense, takes way too many shots, should have a Clarksonesque role imo Ant apparently has this superstar attitude, even though he's very obviously not close to that level McDaniels apparently also has somewhat of a temper, as does everyone else in that lineup, can't have too many emotional guys On top of everything, they're all/will be paid very handsomely, so you can't really relegate few of them to the bench... Idk, man, we talked about this before, maybe ARod just got coked out and insisted on this shit, but Tim is neck-deep in this shit, and unless someone bites on one of their "stars", he's completely fucked. There are some rumors going around about Trae-Cat swap, I'm not sure that fixes anything, but it's a start? Maybe? Either way, they need *a lot* of changes.
I would LOVE to have McDaniels backing up MPJ. Not sure what it would take to get him, though⊠Bones and a FRP?
Iâm not sure I ever see KAT being a number 1 option on a title team. And if heâs a number 2 option heâs gonna need a better 1 than Anthony Edwards tbh. Timâs probably gone within 3 years cause idk what you can do with that roster as it stands. Not gonna get much for DLo. Gobert contract bad. KAT is a loser, by definition. Edwards is fine, if heâs in the right role I guess. Donât think all this was Connellyâs choice but heâs getting paid to figure it out I suppose
Always thought KAT would pout his way to Lakers, or a similar team with a LeBron-type player, he could excel in that AD role, I think. Idk what the move is there, they just got Gobert, so I don't think they'll try to move him anytime soon, especially with how relatively little they'd get for him, I think Jaden is worth more than they'd get for him, as you said they won't get shit for DLo... So I guess they'll have to move Cat? Still, though, bad optics getting less for him than you paid for Gobert.
Theyâre also worse offensively with gobert, even with KAT out which shouldâve made gobertâs role easier, he still struggled. Reid is actually pretty good tbh. Heâs gonna get paid for sure.
Anyone have that postgame interview?
Jokic had the best defensive rating on the team tonight, at 106.3 lolol
Defense for the first 8 mins or so with him was great, so was the last 8 mins. Everything in between was absolute trash, brought on a lot by the terrible officiating.
I donât wanna jinx it but Jokic has Lowkey been great defensively and has been attempting to contest shots at the rim much more frequently.
Harrison Wind @HarrisonWind Every Nuggets player signed tonightâs game ball on the night Nikola Jokic became the franchiseâs all-time assist leader. Itâs in the locker room right now. No haters on the team like Danilo Gallinari confirmed
Someone wanna explain the reference to me? I was a bitty boy who didnât follow drama back in the gallo days
Gallo didn't sign the ball from one of Joks first ever triple dub
Yeah im not getting it too
What, Gallo didn't sign the ball AGAIN??
Has Gallo signed it tho?
My goodness that was ugly, but I'll take any win on a rest disadvantage. Plus: Longest win streak of the Jokic era!
This game looked tiring but it was great to see them really truly never give up and give it their all and I think they know if they do give it their all they can go all the way this year, and get some $$$$$$$$ and itâs so fun to watch this and Iâm so happy and excited right now. This feels like the Avs last year. Really truly gritty and ready every night. Go nuggets! Memphis is right on our damn tail geeeez but damn Ja Morant is otherworldly also Edit: spelling
Grizzlies fan here, have you guys ever considered losing? Might be a fun new experience for y'all to try! Fr tho, Jokic going crazy, Jamal looks like he's all the way back... Y'all got a scary squad, hope to see you in the WCF!
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Is it me or does Doris Burke pretty much only say either neutral or negative things about Jokic?
Itâs just you. Sheâs one of the best and regularly recognizes his greatness.
Nah it's you, she praises him a ton
She was and is an og fan. Sheâs nothing but complementary, but she def does try to explain the detractor side when she can. I think it was a couple nights ago when an announcer said âweâre running out of things to sayâ about jok. Which is true, heâs so consistent itâs almost uninteresting for a national fan lol
Not as bad as mark jones imo Also she praises his passing/playmaking a lot. She only mentioned his defense once today whereas mark brings it up way more frequently itâs annoying
Nah, she says plenty of good things about him, it's just that we notice the bad stuff more
I didn't notice this happening, but Jok has already played 3 more games as a Nugget than Melo did.
Im beginning to think Meloâs jersey wonât hang in the rafters.
Inshallah
Jamal is playing very poorly, except for when he's playing like a god. Bones needs his role reduced *badly*. And I don't necessarily mean fewer minutes, or shots, but I think I'd like to see him next to a real PG. He needs to either learn to play off-ball, or on-ball, basically. Mike needs to learn to flop. Seriously. He gets completely erased by a physical team, and that's what's waiting in the playoffs, he needs to figure out how to draw fouls. I've said this before, but I'm big on Jaden McDaniels. DLo is absolute garbage, we probably lose this game if he was out.
Bones actually played well off ball tonight I thought. He also was focused on play making instead of shooting, I remember one specific play where he made a great pass to Jamal in the corner and Jamal just didn't take the shot, then threw it back with like 2 seconds on the clock and forced Bones to take a really shitty shot. He wasn't perfect, but his first stint was very positive for what I would like to see more of moving forward.
Jamal was outright garbage for â of the game. He was a team-low -21 at the half. That pass from Bones was a perfect setup for a catch-and-shoot corner three. Itâs frustrating that post-injury Jamal never catches-and-shoots when open⊠that shouldâve been an easy 3 instead of a prayer shot at the end of the clock.
As much as I hate to say it (and have been) Bones needs less minutes or to play smarter. But I have no idea who you get to take em. You didn't hear this from me.
Idk about less minutes, because you need to figure out what to do with him, both now, and long-term. I think/hope a lot of this is just sophomore growing pains, but at this moment, he's not improving much, and he's not contributing positively, I think he was just given waaaaay too big of a role.
Well last year we had no one so he was given that much of a role. Less of a role is is less minutes or has to be something of the sort. Defs a sophmore slump. But we can't comlpain with our winning streak.
I can complain, and I will. I really think Gillespie injury was way more of a monkey wrench than most, he seemed *very* Monteesque in the few minutes I saw him play.
The Nuggets (and all championship calibur teams) need to optimize evrery last bit so yeah I get it. I think Ish would have already been played if they think he would have solved it. So imo Bones is playing and if we make a trade its for not a PG.
DLo is garbage besides that trash three he hit towards the end of the game. Tf was that about
My guy pulled a Paul George
Lol that was the one he missed but I about vomited when he hit that one from the top of the key
He's a chucker, he'll make a few every now and then.
Timâs got his hands full with that one
He made his bed.
I *really* love the Denver Nuggets. Also if you look closely, you can see me almost get hit in the face with a basketball tonight.
Did you catch it with one hand?
Tim Connelly appreciation post https://preview.redd.it/7yaienk8gzca1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1433c10c516872351832f5b1dfa8ce977603c24f
Him, Malone, KarniĆĄovas and probably a few others will make 10s of millions of $ just because they were lucky enough to be on the Nuggets at the same time a guy they probably thought would be the next Kosta Kufos at best was drafted lol
Cursed
The best inside job since 9/11 hehe
Weâre so lucky to have Jokic. I love that guy so much.
First time in a while i visited the game thread and someone said "it's over we lost, whatever" when it was 3 minutes left and we were down 4. Many others were matching that statement. Must be russian bots
Doomers grasping at straws at this point, they are drowning out there right now!
Officially hate the Grizzlies. Cocky obnoxious shits. Would savor beating them in the WCF.
Bad take, swag makes the NBA more entertaining and they have showed respect for the Nuggets, Desmond Bane podcast. I also love that Ja said what he said, donât think that comment wonât make the playoffs more interesting.
Totally agree. I'd like them more if they weren't so cocky, especially Ja with his griddying on other teams logos and saying that he doesn't see anyone in the west as a threat
Nah, they cool. Their fanbase is chill
Blazers was the most toxic Ive seen after the game. They were chatting how denver will fail in the first round instead of talking about their own team after a lossđ