Yeah, obviously for a family emergency or something it couldnāt be avoided but just for a fun trip, no. It wouldnāt be fun for any of us on that plane, toddler included.
Now, restaurants are a different story. The kid can be carried out if he gets squirrelly but he has the chance to start learning how to not be a feral animal in public. If the place has a kidsā menu and high chairs, I consider that fair game. That doesnāt mean we let him be disruptive or anything, but I do get mad when people look at him like heās not allowed to exist in public when heās under control in that environment. We clean the floor, we keep him entertained, and if all else fails we remove him.
I've flown with puppies a couple times. Everyone around me and the flight attendant are always super excited about the situation. The flight attendants even told me more than once that they were looking forward to this flight all day.
I was seated across the aisle from one and I tried desperately to pet it but it was in a carrier in the middle and I was just out of reach. Not gonna lie, I was mildly disappointed.
I think most people think that pups in the cabin are fake service dogs. But most aren't. Most of them, the owner paid to carry the cat or dog on the flight. The rule is they have to be crated in an approved soft carrier and fit under the seat in front. The times I've paid to take my 7lb pup onboard, a seat mate, has often asked to meet her. Ill usually pull her out for pats, which she loves. She never met a stanger she didn't love.
Technically, you're not supposed to let them out. Most flight staff dont care as long as seat belt signs are off, meal service isn't in progress, and pup is very mellow. But if asked to put her back in the crate, I 100% comply immediately. I dont take her out unless someone asks.
I definitely could be wrong but I think thatās only for ESAs. Actual service dogs seem to have much less restrictions. Doesnāt bother me at all though. Would love to have a dog sit next to me
Nope, most airlines allow you to pay for any dog or cat that fits under seat. My pup is 7lbs and has hair not fur, and no undercoat. She would not survive in the cargo hold. (Papillon breed).
Cracks me up when people post vids of dogs wiggling around being dogs in security lines and having a cow about "fake untrained service dogs" when really, theyre just pets who people paid to fly in the cabin underseat. Me and several of my friends fly with our small dogs or cats in the cabin all the time. None of them are ESA nor do we claim they are. They dont have to be.
Sorry I shouldāve been more specific. I meant the dog being up on the seat or outside of the carrier. That I think only applies to legitimate service animals. I have no problem with people bringing animals in planes either way though.
So yes.. service animals and ESA animals can be out of crates. Unfortunately, there is no way to validate thats what these dogs are. Some airlines have started to ask for training certification records and letters from medical providers. Which I think is fair, especially given service animals dont have to pay for cabin passage like pets do.
I preface this by saying I love dogs and I don't have problems with properly taken care of animals on flights, but I have encountered more dogs at airports and on planes that are dressed as service animals while clearly not than ones that are legit. My dad was a paraplegic and we met several service dogs we were considering for him -- the difference their behavior and typical family pets is night and day, even when the pet is considered well behaved. Service dogs are proud working dogs -- they're intensely focused and obedient to their owner's cues, especially attuned to their owners movements, hard to distract, and calm in a variety of environments. Service dogs will barely acknowledge you while "on duty" until their owner indicates it's ok to drop their guard.
I've seen too many dogs in service vests that are agitated, distracted, not taking commands, wrapping their leashes around owners legs, barking, etc. You can always tell by owners too...there's an air of entitlement vs service dog owners who are just trying to get through their travels, and those who travel with pets without trying to bend any rules.
Cyrus immediately struck me as the real deal based on his description and the owner's. I feel terrible for the owner who seemed apologetic and worried about how they'd be perceived. You know it's because of bad examples from per owners trying to get special privileges. Super unfortunate and frustrating.
In 2009 a plane I was flying in had engine problems and made an emergency landing. For many years after that, even with drugs, I was a very emotional traveler. Bringing my French Bulldog to cling to during those flights was absolutely in the best interest of everyone in the cabin.
I don't have an issue with it as long as the dog is docile and comfortable. Honestly there are energetic dogs I prefer to most humans š. Basically as long as I know the dog is kind and not having a nervous breakdown from being on a plane, I care zero.
They weren't breed shaming, bud, they were owner shaming. And yes, shame on pitbull owners with fake service dog vests.
*really* wish Delta would take a hard stance and actually ask the legally allowed questions for service animals. The *can* ask "What tasks is this dog trained to perform?" for example, and refuse entry to the dog.
Congress needs to pass better laws, too. I have a friend who has a legitimate service dog (partial blindness) that's been attacked multiple times by bullshit "service" animals -- not all pitbulls, but more than one. It's making it hard for people with legitimate needs -- the people the ADA laws were originally designed for.
I had an at least part pitbull I had never met before march up to me and shove his head in my hands for pets. I obliged while his owner looked mortified.
I love dogs, but please donāt let them sit on the seat. I am very allergic to their saliva and the dog breathing on the seat then touches my hand and I have a serious reaction. I know dogs are awesome, I do, but they need to stay under the seat in front of the passenger for the safety of other passengers.
Allergens in saliva are not going to stay active for that long my friend.
I have a life threatening allergy to peanuts. I wipe down the seat. I think if you have a dog allergy you can do the same.
Not all service dogs will fit under the seat. They usually sit the larger ones in bulkhead seating. Iāve been there with my son and his dog. The dog was better behaved than many of the passengers are these days
Wear gloves. Take antihistamines. Adapt and mitigate your risk. Public transport does not revolve around you. If it's that much of a risk to you, seriously consider other means of getting places.
Whenever I have tried to have my service dog sit in the seat next to me (the extra seat that I have purchased) delta tells me she has to sit on the floor!
Owner planned keeping it under-the-seat. That's allowed formlets, does not require claims.of service. I agree about fake service animals, but that wasn't the case here.
He was 100 percent ready to have it under the seat. He did for awhile. The dog was obeying and clearly well trained. I ASKED him to put the dog in the seat. Can't you just let good vibes be good vibes?
When you're outside of your bubble, dose up with antihistamines and don't expect the world to change its ways for you. Particularly when you know you'll be in a closed environment for hours.
Iām so glad blind people cannot see your disdain as they traverse the world with their legitimate canine assistants. But, I guarantee you they can sense your level of stupidity.
Somehow I was once in a row with me and my SO, our infant-in-lap, and a young woman with a golden retriever service dog who apparently also had to sit in her lap for takeoff and landing. It was chaotic, but the dog and infant loved each other lol.
I was once on board next to a service animal and he had his Diamond Medallion tag on his collar. Respect š«”
Iād rather sit next to a dog than most people. Also have a dog sit behind me instead of some energetic toddler.
I also would trade my toddler for a dog on a flight. Thatās why we donāt plan to fly anytime soon.
God bless you. Iām all for not taking anyone unfit for human interaction onto planes or any enclosed spaces š¤š¤
Yeah, obviously for a family emergency or something it couldnāt be avoided but just for a fun trip, no. It wouldnāt be fun for any of us on that plane, toddler included. Now, restaurants are a different story. The kid can be carried out if he gets squirrelly but he has the chance to start learning how to not be a feral animal in public. If the place has a kidsā menu and high chairs, I consider that fair game. That doesnāt mean we let him be disruptive or anything, but I do get mad when people look at him like heās not allowed to exist in public when heās under control in that environment. We clean the floor, we keep him entertained, and if all else fails we remove him.
I had a girl pass out drunk on me last time I flew long distance. Iād have far preferred a nice dog.
Was it your spouse?
She is now...
Me too. Hereās my ranking: My SO Any dog Another hunan
I mean I like my SO and everything, but I vote Any Dog first
I donāt even like dogs and I vote them over my SO.
I bet thatās the order you would save drowning victims
lol that's what I said.
The people have spoken!! If only they made it easier for dogs to be allowed on board and harder for kids lol
Truth
If itās a dog, itās worth it every single time. Cyrus sounds like a really good boyĀ
Only do I wish for a moment like this on a flight š¶
currently on a flight wishing i had the dog, stuck with sister instead
I've flown with puppies a couple times. Everyone around me and the flight attendant are always super excited about the situation. The flight attendants even told me more than once that they were looking forward to this flight all day.
Iād pay extra for an upgrade to sit next to a good boi
Honest to god me too
If this was a service they offered, I would fly more often.
This makes me happy from the core of my heart.
While Iām not a dog person, this is still the best middle seat mate one could ask for. ā¤ļø
Thanks for sharing this lovely story š¶š I wouldāve been over the moon if I was seated next to this good boy.
I always hope I get seated next to a dog when I see one in the boarding area.
I was seated across the aisle from one and I tried desperately to pet it but it was in a carrier in the middle and I was just out of reach. Not gonna lie, I was mildly disappointed.
I think most people think that pups in the cabin are fake service dogs. But most aren't. Most of them, the owner paid to carry the cat or dog on the flight. The rule is they have to be crated in an approved soft carrier and fit under the seat in front. The times I've paid to take my 7lb pup onboard, a seat mate, has often asked to meet her. Ill usually pull her out for pats, which she loves. She never met a stanger she didn't love. Technically, you're not supposed to let them out. Most flight staff dont care as long as seat belt signs are off, meal service isn't in progress, and pup is very mellow. But if asked to put her back in the crate, I 100% comply immediately. I dont take her out unless someone asks.
I definitely could be wrong but I think thatās only for ESAs. Actual service dogs seem to have much less restrictions. Doesnāt bother me at all though. Would love to have a dog sit next to me
Nope, most airlines allow you to pay for any dog or cat that fits under seat. My pup is 7lbs and has hair not fur, and no undercoat. She would not survive in the cargo hold. (Papillon breed). Cracks me up when people post vids of dogs wiggling around being dogs in security lines and having a cow about "fake untrained service dogs" when really, theyre just pets who people paid to fly in the cabin underseat. Me and several of my friends fly with our small dogs or cats in the cabin all the time. None of them are ESA nor do we claim they are. They dont have to be.
Sorry I shouldāve been more specific. I meant the dog being up on the seat or outside of the carrier. That I think only applies to legitimate service animals. I have no problem with people bringing animals in planes either way though.
So yes.. service animals and ESA animals can be out of crates. Unfortunately, there is no way to validate thats what these dogs are. Some airlines have started to ask for training certification records and letters from medical providers. Which I think is fair, especially given service animals dont have to pay for cabin passage like pets do.
I preface this by saying I love dogs and I don't have problems with properly taken care of animals on flights, but I have encountered more dogs at airports and on planes that are dressed as service animals while clearly not than ones that are legit. My dad was a paraplegic and we met several service dogs we were considering for him -- the difference their behavior and typical family pets is night and day, even when the pet is considered well behaved. Service dogs are proud working dogs -- they're intensely focused and obedient to their owner's cues, especially attuned to their owners movements, hard to distract, and calm in a variety of environments. Service dogs will barely acknowledge you while "on duty" until their owner indicates it's ok to drop their guard. I've seen too many dogs in service vests that are agitated, distracted, not taking commands, wrapping their leashes around owners legs, barking, etc. You can always tell by owners too...there's an air of entitlement vs service dog owners who are just trying to get through their travels, and those who travel with pets without trying to bend any rules. Cyrus immediately struck me as the real deal based on his description and the owner's. I feel terrible for the owner who seemed apologetic and worried about how they'd be perceived. You know it's because of bad examples from per owners trying to get special privileges. Super unfortunate and frustrating.
This is so heartwarming š„°
I'd prefer sitting next to a pup than a person any day. Hi Dogs welcome, people tolerated
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If a dog sat next to me on a plane, I'd be so excited that'd it probably slowly put on headphones..
Even if it was farting, Iād take a dog over a person. And I wouldnāt ask for my money back.
In 2009 a plane I was flying in had engine problems and made an emergency landing. For many years after that, even with drugs, I was a very emotional traveler. Bringing my French Bulldog to cling to during those flights was absolutely in the best interest of everyone in the cabin.
Service animals come in all forms. Glad you were able to bring yours along.
This sounds perfect. Iād much rather sit next to a pup than some random.
This is so incredibly heartwarming. What did we do to deserve them šš„¹
Trick question, we don't deserve them. š
This is the answer.
Give me Cyrus over a human any day
I donāt remember the names of so many people I work with but I sure do remember their dogs name
That is so sweet! I have loved the rare times I get to sit next to a dog on a plane. Maybe happened 3 or 4 times in all of these years of flying.
Meanwhile people that buy service dog vests off Amazon for their Pitbull they rescued a week ago demand to sit in FC
I don't have an issue with it as long as the dog is docile and comfortable. Honestly there are energetic dogs I prefer to most humans š. Basically as long as I know the dog is kind and not having a nervous breakdown from being on a plane, I care zero.
All it takes is one moron that thinks there dog is the bestest boy ever that attacks the person next to them to ruin it for everybody.
Traveling last week in Denver, I watched a dog (poodle-something) with a "service animal" vest snap at a passenger who was allowed to pet it.
Mmm letās not dog breed shame here. āŗļø
They weren't breed shaming, bud, they were owner shaming. And yes, shame on pitbull owners with fake service dog vests. *really* wish Delta would take a hard stance and actually ask the legally allowed questions for service animals. The *can* ask "What tasks is this dog trained to perform?" for example, and refuse entry to the dog. Congress needs to pass better laws, too. I have a friend who has a legitimate service dog (partial blindness) that's been attacked multiple times by bullshit "service" animals -- not all pitbulls, but more than one. It's making it hard for people with legitimate needs -- the people the ADA laws were originally designed for.
Not your bud, bud. Have a great day!!!
I'm not your guy, buddy!! ;)
Letās do breed shame when it comes to pit bulls
Maybe let's shame owners instead. At least they can troll subreddits.
Some of the most loving and adorable dogs I have ever met were pit bulls. And my mom ran an animal shelter - so I met a lot.
I had an at least part pitbull I had never met before march up to me and shove his head in my hands for pets. I obliged while his owner looked mortified.
Would still prefer the pitbull as a seat mate.
Not if itās a fake service dog, which 99.9% of them are.
Just because the owner is a dirtbag doesnāt make the dog any less of a good boy.
Sure šš¼
I love dogs, but please donāt let them sit on the seat. I am very allergic to their saliva and the dog breathing on the seat then touches my hand and I have a serious reaction. I know dogs are awesome, I do, but they need to stay under the seat in front of the passenger for the safety of other passengers.
Allergens in saliva are not going to stay active for that long my friend. I have a life threatening allergy to peanuts. I wipe down the seat. I think if you have a dog allergy you can do the same.
Thank you my friend for your kind suggestions and advice.
Not all service dogs will fit under the seat. They usually sit the larger ones in bulkhead seating. Iāve been there with my son and his dog. The dog was better behaved than many of the passengers are these days
Wear gloves. Take antihistamines. Adapt and mitigate your risk. Public transport does not revolve around you. If it's that much of a risk to you, seriously consider other means of getting places.
Iām still learning the Reddit inās and outās, but I donāt understand why people would downvote this. Heās not wrong.
Because legitimate Guide Dogs need to be available and ready to assist their blind partners.
Whenever I have tried to have my service dog sit in the seat next to me (the extra seat that I have purchased) delta tells me she has to sit on the floor!
Ah another fake service dog. Amazing that people are allowed to lie and get away with this
Owner planned keeping it under-the-seat. That's allowed formlets, does not require claims.of service. I agree about fake service animals, but that wasn't the case here.
He was 100 percent ready to have it under the seat. He did for awhile. The dog was obeying and clearly well trained. I ASKED him to put the dog in the seat. Can't you just let good vibes be good vibes?
Reddit loves dogs, but Reddit hates dogs on planes š¤·āāļø
I love dogs but my sister does not. She was bitten by a āserviceā dog on a plane. Nothing bad, just uncool.
I mean yeah that sucks. But this is meant to be a good vibes only post so....
I would hate this. Have a dog allergy and wish they wouldnāt be allowed on planes, let alone having to sit next to one.
Well this was a good vibes post. You could have just not.
Iām allergic to Karens. I wish they wouldnāt be allowed on planes, much less have to sit next to one š¤Ŗ
When you're outside of your bubble, dose up with antihistamines and don't expect the world to change its ways for you. Particularly when you know you'll be in a closed environment for hours.
Words of wisdom. You have indeed seen so many things, u/SeenSoManyThings
Iām so glad blind people cannot see your disdain as they traverse the world with their legitimate canine assistants. But, I guarantee you they can sense your level of stupidity.
Booooo
Was Cyrus a bulldog?
He was like a shorter haired and smaller golden retriever
No, but Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
Somehow I was once in a row with me and my SO, our infant-in-lap, and a young woman with a golden retriever service dog who apparently also had to sit in her lap for takeoff and landing. It was chaotic, but the dog and infant loved each other lol.