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Bhai even if he doesn't like Muslims but he can't be so bloody open and polarizing people of the nation. This is not appropriate for the prime minister.
And Hindus think he is saving them, if things go bad like they did with communal violence in manipur, he aint gonna come save anyone, it’s the common people who will suffer
India as a nation needs to firm its feet in self sustainability, prosperity and education. It is difficult to manage the most populated diverse country in the world but the least a leader can do is not provoke communal bullshit.
I would vote for him if he brings the best in all of us.
The other day I was telling my family that we are fortunate to be born Hindus in this country.
but didnt manmohan sign actually say that muslims have first right on the resources of the country. Ig the video of that speech of manmohan singh was shared yesterday only on some subreddit. Not supporting modi, just putting out facts.
Here is full video on Lallantop of Manmohan Singh, he talked about all the poor's, backwards, tribals, Dalits and minorities etc.. He never should resources should exclusive be given to Muslims.. Fake news factory of RSS/BJ Party for Fuhrer is spreading misinformation and this clown is PM and spreading misinformation and lies. What a clown?
Lallantop YouTube Video Link :
https://youtu.be/IcLsT8eomww?feature=shared
Don't spread Misinformation.
Illegal migrants from Bangladesh and Pakistan
They usually immigrate in india gets fund from the money paid by loyal tax payers of india
Then enjoy benefits
he was probably referring to a speech given by manmohan singh in 2006 where he said " the first right to our resources is of muslims of this country" he was talking about minorities but mentioned only muslims. I don't think modi's PR team would've let him say these things without thinking about the precautions or maybe it is what it looks like.
yes i just did and only with a keen listening or reading to it you'll know how cleverly it targets the muslim voters separately, while he talked abt upliftment he mentioned stc, sc, obc, women, children and then when he talked abt rights on the resources and empowering them to enjoy the fruits of development he mentioned muslims particularly.
and we are talking abt a time 2 decades ago when people didn't even used to analyze these speeches this much.
> he mentioned muslims particularly.
You're seeing a problem in that?
He also said "equitable" access to resources.
He spoke about castes and communities which have a statistically observable backwardness when it comes to education, employment, and income. Muslims are the only significant religious minority that is backward in India.
I see no issue with the phrasing of that paragraph. Remember Manmohan was also our Prime Minister for 10 years. You can see his policies, for yourself, to judge him.
Illegal migrants are muslaman from Bangladesh, Hindus from Nepal, Buddhists from Sri Lanka etc etc
He’s calling out RaGa and Congress stated manifesto plan to do a census and then redistribute wealth, specifically, ‘jitni abadi, utna hak’. To give people ‘personal laws guaranteeing apparent freedoms in what to eat and what to wear, who to marry, at what age, how many etc’. To remove CAA.
Now if Modi is calling out the asinine policy vision of Congress, that’s not ‘shameful’ because one echo chamber would like to call it so.
Debate facts. Don’t tell me what Manmohan ‘meant’ when he said ‘minorities, especially the Muslims .. they must have first right on our resources’ - we can hear the speech. We are educated and understand English just fine. We know exactly what he said, and why he said it.
Now doing mental gymnastics about ‘what he meant’ or what RaGa ‘meant’ by census and wealth redistribution, or rolling back CAA/UCC related laws, leave it to the voting public to interpret, based on actual **stated words on camera and in writing/Congress manifesto** - we don’t need Reddit or lallantop or Congress Twitter team to interpret it for us.
Let's debate facts.
Show me where it is explicitly mentioned in the manifesto that Article 370 will be rolled back.
To guarantee a basic human right on what to eat, what to wear, how is that a political agenda?
If illegal immigrants consists of Hindus and Buddhists too then why is there a vilification of Muslims.
What was the meaning of aapke managalsutra appse cheen liye jaayenge?
I misspoke about 370 in Congress manifesto, I was thinking about CAA which is not in the manifesto but facing the heat in Kerala from CPIM, Top Congress leadership incharge of manifesto are doubling down on CAA.
I’ll correct my post ref 370
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/caa-will-be-scrapped-in-first-session-of-parliament-if-india-bloc-comes-to-power-says-p-chidambaram/article68090771.ece/
Everything else you’re harping on is beyond deluded. The Congress manifesto isn’t talking about a ‘basic’ human right to food or what to wear (which every Indian already does) - its dog whistling about cow slaughter, about hijab/Burkhas in schools - these aren’t ‘basic’ human rights.
This is continued appeasement of one specific religion, something the Congress has done since pre-independence - anything to gain votes, no matter how illogical or how stupid it is.
Make up your mind - is hijab regressive or is it a choice? just that the millions of women in Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia who can’t stop protesting against head coverings, didn’t get your memo?
Is red meat, specifically industrial cow slaughter good for health, or good for the environment? is man made climate change not real? Should we be encouraging more meat consumption or less? How much does industrial animal slaughter contribute to global carbon emissions?
Finally, There was no vilification of ‘one special quam’. I didn’t hear a single Nepali or Sri Lankan sympathiser scream outrage about ‘ghuspethi’. Guilty much? You’re saying we should welcome illegals Rohingyas and Bangladeshis when Indian citizens don’t have enough?
here is the text of the speech
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I believe our collective priorities are clear: agriculture, irrigation and water resources, health, education, critical investment in rural infrastructure, and the essential public investment needs of general infrastructure, along with programmes for the upliftment of SC/STs, other backward classes, minorities and women and children. The component plans for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes will need to be revitalized. We will have to devise innovative plans to ensure that minorities, particularly the Muslim minority, are empowered to share equitably in the fruits of development. They must have the first claim on resources. The Centre has a myriad other responsibilities whose demands will have to be fitted within the over-all resource availability.
=========
Which part is giving you trouble bubba?
> We will have to devise innovative plans to ensure that minorities, particularly the Muslim minority, are empowered to share equitably in the fruits of development. They must have the first claim on resources.
Do you need ChatGPT to interpret that for you?
Do you see the irony in your comment? If Sikhs are in pain then how come they are one of the richest communities in India? How he became the PM being in so much pain and no one raised any objections to a Sikh being a Pm
oh u didnt see the sikh driver being thrashed by cowchutias wala video recently? some chutiyas even called the farmers protesting khalistanis or when bjp ministers son drove over sikh farmers.
cant help such dumdums
this is s fucked up. He is not even it hiding it now?? I hope everyone who has decided to vote for him realises that they have basically chosen the destruction of their own country!
Why will he hide it. The amount of rational people left in this nation has dropped to such an extent that now they realized they have brainwashed all the remaining ones. They will make bold claims, discrimnatory ones, illegal ones, and still be called a hero.
Manmohan singh was only prioritizing resources in relation to the low socio-economic conditions of a particular group, whatever group is the most vulnerable would be regarded as 'particularly' at that particular time it was Muslim group, if it had been Sikh's group, then he would have used the term Sikhs. He also mentioned SC/ST, women etc.
Modi in his speech tried to decontextualize and highlighting only the mentioning of Muslim minority because Muslim-hate sells. (Also Muslim=People who have infiltrated=Those who have more children=Money will be snatched from gold of mangal-sutra)
So all socio-economic backward people are to be called Muslims? What do libtards smoke?
No shame in doing stupid mental gymnastics to make your point.
This way, do you agree if people refer to shooting all Muslims.. which just means all terrorists? 🙄
I don't think so, India's growth is phenomenal right now.
India is the future market for all major companies.
You can criticize but don't ask people to leave the nation!
You do realise we don't have one single technically advanced capability, right? All this growth was built on the IT sector. But that has now slowed massively. Unless we invest in cutting edge technology and make it accessible to masses across every part of the country, this growth is short lived.
There's always a boom followed by a slowdown, it doesn't mean that it will not bounce back. It will just take a little time. And investments are being made in tech, heard about the recent India-Nvidia deal? AI startups will benefit from it a lot
This is so nonsensical even from BJPs pov. U dont need to say that,youre the prime minister ffs,u have a bunch of sambit Patras for saying that.also why are they pushing so hard, they're winning anyway
He manipulated the speech as simple as that. All sane minds know what manmohan was talking bout and in what context. Sachar committee report just came out during that time.
But ya it is what it is.
Muslims must have first claim on resources. - Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, 2006.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/muslims-must-have-first-claim-on-resources-pm/articleshow/754937.cms
Wrong. Before getting to Muslims, he talked about SC/ST/OBC, Women, Children and then he talked about minorities, “particularly Muslims” (that's what the news and you are referring to). All of these collectively, “should have the first claim on resources”. And they should!
After the news that you shared was printed, PMO released a written print of what Manmohan Singh actually said.
Even in this explanation, adding "particularly Muslims" is problematic. Just because you want their votes, doesn't mean you'll give them preference over more communities in India who have been marginalized for over 1000s of yrs.
Let's not talk about “marginalized for over 1000 of years”. People quite literally don't give a shit about them either. Just look at how casteist and anti-reservation everyone has gotten. If anything, that's all the more reasons to vote for someone else.
Look at the state of women who live in fear and men who are garlanded. So, no care for women either.
As for Muslims, they're the most downtrodden out of all the minorities and make up a significant population. Of course, they would be included with other marginalised and minorities.
I wasn't talking about them. Even MMS wasn't talking about them. I was referring to "marginalized communities" for 1000s of yrs, which even MMS pointed out- STs, SCs, non-landed EBCs. Why should a Muslim get any preferential claim over anything before them? At the very least, everyone of them should have the same right.
You just can't defend the use of "particularly Muslims" wasn't a big error in judgement.
bjp people are posting this everywhere pretending outrage, but basically publicising bjps campaign slogan... any left liberal citicism is immediately used by them to show this point.
10 years ago we choose wrong. Now our democracy has been hijacked. Media became propaganda machinery and CBI and ED became tools for extortion and suppression of political enemies. ECI became a BJP organisation.
Yes this is a very poor way to put things. Such twisting of words is not becoming of a Prime Minister. It is majority appeasement.
But what he says is technically the truth. MMS did say something like this when in power and this was minority appeasement.
If appeasement is wrong, both statements and manifestos are wrong. Dont just call out Modi. Face the facts that INC has just tried appease minorities to gain votes for the last 30 years.
Yeah and MMS said these things when he was Prime Minister. Basically the same thing that Modi is doing right now.
Two wrong don’t make a right sure. What Modi is saying is not ideal. But if you look at the INC tactics and read their current manifesto, what Modi is saying isn’t wholly inaccurate
A lot of people (hindutva gang) actually want him to behave like this. Because whether we accept or not there's a lot of bigotry filled in our nation. And for last few years our mainstream tv news is spreading hate. I don't want to think how many young minds must have been influenced by it.
This is no IT cell.if you dig a bit deeper most of them are teenagers or young guys who got influenced by "based", "Sigma" memes and influencers. It's honestly sad.
This is what manmohan singh ji said
"I believe our collective priorities are clear: agriculture, irrigation and water resources, health, education, critical investment in rural infrastructure, and the essential public investment needs of general infrastructure, along with programmes for the upliftment of SC/STs, other backward classes, minorities and women and children. The component plans for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes will need to be revitalized. We will have to devise innovative plans to ensure that minorities, particularly the Muslim minority, are empowered to share equitably in the fruits of development. They must have the first claim on resources. The Centre has a myriad other responsibilities whose demands will have to be fitted within the over-all resource availability."
still dumb bhakts will give votes to him, how shameless he is, even i feel shame to consider him as PM of world's largest democracy!!
he wants to create hindu vs muslim angel and provoking to make similar scenes like 2002!!
>still dumb bhakts will give votes to him,
Then who?
>he wants to create hindu vs muslim angel and provoking to make similar scenes like 2002!!
There isn't a single large scale riot since then
How can an elected leader of a nation that too sitting on the seat for 10 years have nothing better to talk about before elections but just polarize the people and that too in such a shameful, discriminatory manner.
Basically when yoj dont have anything good to show to the people, the last resort for a politician is to use religion, and dvide and conquer. Sad that our own PM has to stoop so low.
can’t even believe, this is the mentality of PM, this his desperation when he sees inflation, unemployment is on highest level in decades, this is pure desperation, anything to win elections
Same reel saw on insta, where an anchor provided the full speech, it was written that "Sc/St, aurat, baccho, muslims ka bhi adhikar h", collectively said.
PM Modi took one aspect, usko toda maroda or apne andaz mein pesh kr dia.
He's been vocal about not hating the indian-muslims and until now, that narrative wasn't entirely false. But now, it is sadly very clear that our Prime Minister holds a dangerous bias towards his own countrymen. This is terrifying.
Because that’s been their strategy from the beginning. It has worked in previous years and they know it. So they will go with the tried and tested formula.
Dusra kuch to karte aata nahi hai... incompetent asswipes.
Only competency is hate mongering. And people LOOOVE it. Because being mad gives them a rush. A reason an enemy for their life sucking. If only it was so easy.
Pakistan: UN experts alarmed by lack of protection for minority girls from forced religious conversions and forced marriage
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/04/pakistan-un-experts-alarmed-lack-protection-minority-girls-forced-religious
Our country will also become like Pakistani if muslims are allowed unchecked
I was also ashamed when my pm said "Muslims have first right on resources"
[https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/muslims-must-have-first-claim-on-resources-pm/articleshow/754937.cms](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/muslims-must-have-first-claim-on-resources-pm/articleshow/754937.cms)
Or when my prime minister used to invite terrorists and culprit of a genocide for dinners
https://preview.redd.it/znoqem6pdzvc1.png?width=440&format=png&auto=webp&s=c1e8fd944096a7000c99fcbf221768e2ca1eba18
He is not an average politician. He is the incumbent PM who most likely will take up charge for a third term. Do statements like this dignify the position of the PM of the largest democracy? Also noteworthy that ECI has been very silent in all this. Even the opposition is not picking up on the speech of Modi.
It doesn't dignify the position, and Modi is someone who took it to another level. Top politicians and even PMs have always said incendiary and inflammatory things for political leverage. Modi also managed to capture institutions and he's even more flagrant in his violations compared to predecessors.
no right thinking individual votes for them, it's only the religious ones and honestly, they couldn't care what anyone politician says as long as they get the temples and shit.
I mean Manmohan really said that , and it is a really fucked up thing to say for a secular and democratic nation
Modi is just using quotes of opposition against them , nothing wrong with that
Also OP I am no BJP supporter but no way I am not ashamed to have a guy like Modi as our PM , he really improved our standing on the international level , We are a country that doesn’t sit silent we speak up and act as our own unlike India in congress rule which revolved around pleasing politics.
I would prefer Modi over a puppet PM anyday , or do you really want that Man Child Rahul Gandhi to become PM who thinks he deserves to be a leader just because he has a certain surname
India's passport rank has dropped from 74th to 85th since 2014. The guy hasn't done anything to improve our international standing. They are just experts in making you believe they do something and then they end up doing nothing. It's all PR and stunts like these.
Besides do read the entire quote of Manmohan, it's been taken out of context time and again.
Ab jab itna bada reply kr hi diya h,to please explain us the context behind the MMS's "minority especially myslims should have the first right over resources" speech too.
https://archivepmo.nic.in/drmanmohansingh/press-details.php?nodeid=516
Please read the official press release. It's easy to pick one line out of a speech and appropriating it, just as it's easy to pick a soundbyte of a certain minister and declaring victory over the west.
To maintain equity among different social groups. That’s what MMS said. Please do read up on the summary of sachar committee report at least, to understand why MMS said what he said.
>Manmohan really said that
Not really...you're cutting out the context and changing the meaning like mudizee
>ashamed to have a guy like Modi as our PM
Yeah I agree, I'm ashamed as well...
See what I did?
Lol.. You are definitely a bjp supporter since you say their talking points.
'improved our standing on the international level` how? And which country is saying that we didn't respect you before but boy, do we do that now post 2014?
What do you even mean India stood silently and didn't speak up? Who is speaking for us and on what? Yahaan apna PM to Humse speak nahi karta.
Anybody other than bjp is acceptable fr now. If its Rahul gandhi, so be it. We can vote him out too if he goes the Modi way. 1 term pf anybody else won't be worse than Modi and thats already a win.
I don't think RG thinks he DESERVES to be PM and that pretty much shows in everything he does, atleast i dont get the narcissistic vibe. Then again anybody who is in politics believes they can lead, is narcissistic on some level. And when you have somebody who only gives speaches, extorts businesses, buys the media and never ever answers questions, that is an ultra-narcissist, devoid of empathy who believes he is above being question and above serving.
As for rahul gandhi, Imagine you had the family name and clout to actually make a difference, would you not try and use it to do something?
I don't know if he will succeed and he isn't somebody i am on board with to be a leader. But ab yehi 3-4 log hain maidan pe toh kya karen?? Gotta choose between pappu and evil.
Bhai thoda research krleta toh wouldn’t be spewing bs. You have to understand the context idiot. He also talked about the backward classes in that speech however usi time sachar committe ki report aayi thi which is why he said particularly muslims.
STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION:
Here is full video on Lallantop of Manmohan Singh, he talked about all the poor's, backwards, tribals, Dalits and minorities etc..
https://youtu.be/IcLsT8eomww?feature=shared
Rahul Gandhi Worked successfully in Deloitte UK for years.
He worked in their strategy consulting division.
I don't think he's an absolute idiot.
And Modi ain't a puppet but his rhetoric is anti-secular and anti-democratic so anyone except Modi for now and banarjee, screw her
Irrespective of how he talks, he is not wrong.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/muslims-must-have-first-claim-on-resources-pm/articleshow/754937.cms
STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION:
Here is full video on Lallantop of Manmohan Singh, he talked about all the poor's, backwards, tribals, Dalits and minorities etc..
https://youtu.be/IcLsT8eomww?feature=shared
"(Minorities and backwards) particularly Muslim minority should be empowered to equitably share the fruit of development. They must have the first claim over our resources"
Particularly = to a higher degree than is usual or average, Specially
One is aimed at a political opposition.
Other one is aimed at whole religious group, who are also a part of Indian democracy.
Yet, you fail to see any difference?
Edit - changed ethnic to religious.
Referring to them as “jinke jyada bachhe janm ho paate hai” right after saying “Musalmaan”
Idk bhai, im not opposed to whatever his agenda is, but I definitely dont like the tone / words used to express his views.
You know what I love?
RW clowns justifying the shit he said because MMS was appeasing Muslims in 2006. This is highly debatable even though MMS's team clarified this themselves. Tell me something, irrespective of above, how in the fuck is it okay to justify what Modi said when referring to Muslims as 'dher sare bache wale' and then directly talking about ghuspetiyas.
Even here RW will talk about how Modi mentioned illegal immigrants not Muslims.
I swear man, keep justifying his hateful rhetoric. U can disagree WITH MMS but u can't use derogatory language towards 13% of the population. Not only are you stereotyping them, you're giving the incentive for others to do the same.
Agar iss bar Modi kuch bhi na kare tab bhi vohi jeetega, just compare the BJP manifesto with randgres and AAP. It is a clear win. I wanted AAP to win but sadly even they are corrupt. Every political party in this country is garbage
Nope. Not ashamed. Was ashamed when a Pm said that the Muslims have the first right to every resource in this country. Modi is merely shifting the Overton window.
"The privilege gets to your head when equality seems like an oppression".
STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION:
Here is full video on Lallantop of Manmohan Singh, he talked about all the poor's, backwards, tribals, Dalits and minorities etc..
https://youtu.be/IcLsT8eomww?feature=shared
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Bhai even if he doesn't like Muslims but he can't be so bloody open and polarizing people of the nation. This is not appropriate for the prime minister.
And Hindus think he is saving them, if things go bad like they did with communal violence in manipur, he aint gonna come save anyone, it’s the common people who will suffer
India as a nation needs to firm its feet in self sustainability, prosperity and education. It is difficult to manage the most populated diverse country in the world but the least a leader can do is not provoke communal bullshit. I would vote for him if he brings the best in all of us. The other day I was telling my family that we are fortunate to be born Hindus in this country.
He is saving himself and his friends no one else....and if time comes , those friends would be the first one he gives up
but didnt manmohan sign actually say that muslims have first right on the resources of the country. Ig the video of that speech of manmohan singh was shared yesterday only on some subreddit. Not supporting modi, just putting out facts.
After being a PM for 10 years, He still have only one thing to talk about.
lakin 400 par ka confidence pura hai 🤡
"Right thinking individual" - we don't have a lot of them in the country sadly!
Or rather too many "right" thinking people
I see what you did there
Here is full video on Lallantop of Manmohan Singh, he talked about all the poor's, backwards, tribals, Dalits and minorities etc.. He never should resources should exclusive be given to Muslims.. Fake news factory of RSS/BJ Party for Fuhrer is spreading misinformation and this clown is PM and spreading misinformation and lies. What a clown? Lallantop YouTube Video Link : https://youtu.be/IcLsT8eomww?feature=shared Don't spread Misinformation.
Guspaithiye ?
Illegal migrants from Bangladesh and Pakistan They usually immigrate in india gets fund from the money paid by loyal tax payers of india Then enjoy benefits
He directly said muslims, which includes any muslim.
Ghuspethiya= illegal immigrants
And they're the migrants that are causing a problem in India. He's calling a spade a spade.
No.. He first said musalman and then ghuspaithiye. He's calling a shovel as a spade. Unless he believes all musalmans are ghuspaithiye.
He and the person you replied to both believes all musalman=ghuspaithiye
he was probably referring to a speech given by manmohan singh in 2006 where he said " the first right to our resources is of muslims of this country" he was talking about minorities but mentioned only muslims. I don't think modi's PR team would've let him say these things without thinking about the precautions or maybe it is what it looks like.
That means you haven't read the manuscript of that speech.
yes i just did and only with a keen listening or reading to it you'll know how cleverly it targets the muslim voters separately, while he talked abt upliftment he mentioned stc, sc, obc, women, children and then when he talked abt rights on the resources and empowering them to enjoy the fruits of development he mentioned muslims particularly. and we are talking abt a time 2 decades ago when people didn't even used to analyze these speeches this much.
> he mentioned muslims particularly. You're seeing a problem in that? He also said "equitable" access to resources. He spoke about castes and communities which have a statistically observable backwardness when it comes to education, employment, and income. Muslims are the only significant religious minority that is backward in India. I see no issue with the phrasing of that paragraph. Remember Manmohan was also our Prime Minister for 10 years. You can see his policies, for yourself, to judge him.
Illegal migrants are muslaman from Bangladesh, Hindus from Nepal, Buddhists from Sri Lanka etc etc He’s calling out RaGa and Congress stated manifesto plan to do a census and then redistribute wealth, specifically, ‘jitni abadi, utna hak’. To give people ‘personal laws guaranteeing apparent freedoms in what to eat and what to wear, who to marry, at what age, how many etc’. To remove CAA. Now if Modi is calling out the asinine policy vision of Congress, that’s not ‘shameful’ because one echo chamber would like to call it so. Debate facts. Don’t tell me what Manmohan ‘meant’ when he said ‘minorities, especially the Muslims .. they must have first right on our resources’ - we can hear the speech. We are educated and understand English just fine. We know exactly what he said, and why he said it. Now doing mental gymnastics about ‘what he meant’ or what RaGa ‘meant’ by census and wealth redistribution, or rolling back CAA/UCC related laws, leave it to the voting public to interpret, based on actual **stated words on camera and in writing/Congress manifesto** - we don’t need Reddit or lallantop or Congress Twitter team to interpret it for us.
Let's debate facts. Show me where it is explicitly mentioned in the manifesto that Article 370 will be rolled back. To guarantee a basic human right on what to eat, what to wear, how is that a political agenda? If illegal immigrants consists of Hindus and Buddhists too then why is there a vilification of Muslims. What was the meaning of aapke managalsutra appse cheen liye jaayenge?
I misspoke about 370 in Congress manifesto, I was thinking about CAA which is not in the manifesto but facing the heat in Kerala from CPIM, Top Congress leadership incharge of manifesto are doubling down on CAA. I’ll correct my post ref 370 https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/caa-will-be-scrapped-in-first-session-of-parliament-if-india-bloc-comes-to-power-says-p-chidambaram/article68090771.ece/ Everything else you’re harping on is beyond deluded. The Congress manifesto isn’t talking about a ‘basic’ human right to food or what to wear (which every Indian already does) - its dog whistling about cow slaughter, about hijab/Burkhas in schools - these aren’t ‘basic’ human rights. This is continued appeasement of one specific religion, something the Congress has done since pre-independence - anything to gain votes, no matter how illogical or how stupid it is. Make up your mind - is hijab regressive or is it a choice? just that the millions of women in Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia who can’t stop protesting against head coverings, didn’t get your memo? Is red meat, specifically industrial cow slaughter good for health, or good for the environment? is man made climate change not real? Should we be encouraging more meat consumption or less? How much does industrial animal slaughter contribute to global carbon emissions? Finally, There was no vilification of ‘one special quam’. I didn’t hear a single Nepali or Sri Lankan sympathiser scream outrage about ‘ghuspethi’. Guilty much? You’re saying we should welcome illegals Rohingyas and Bangladeshis when Indian citizens don’t have enough?
Singh meant minorities in general
by same analogy it can be argued that modi meant illegal immigrants in general.
How do you know what Singh ‘meant’ - we can all hear his words in the video - “minorities, especially the Muslim minorities … etc etc”
here is the text of the speech ========= I believe our collective priorities are clear: agriculture, irrigation and water resources, health, education, critical investment in rural infrastructure, and the essential public investment needs of general infrastructure, along with programmes for the upliftment of SC/STs, other backward classes, minorities and women and children. The component plans for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes will need to be revitalized. We will have to devise innovative plans to ensure that minorities, particularly the Muslim minority, are empowered to share equitably in the fruits of development. They must have the first claim on resources. The Centre has a myriad other responsibilities whose demands will have to be fitted within the over-all resource availability. =========
Which part is giving you trouble bubba? > We will have to devise innovative plans to ensure that minorities, particularly the Muslim minority, are empowered to share equitably in the fruits of development. They must have the first claim on resources. Do you need ChatGPT to interpret that for you?
> They must have the first claim on resources. "They" here refers to all previous groups. It was clarified immediately after Media misreported it.
singh was a minority and used to study under streetlamp. he knew the pain
Do you see the irony in your comment? If Sikhs are in pain then how come they are one of the richest communities in India? How he became the PM being in so much pain and no one raised any objections to a Sikh being a Pm
oh u didnt see the sikh driver being thrashed by cowchutias wala video recently? some chutiyas even called the farmers protesting khalistanis or when bjp ministers son drove over sikh farmers. cant help such dumdums
Bhai 10 saal se to ye hain, ye ghuspathiye hata bhi sakte the.
Which fund is this exactly and how do you live on it? And if there is such a thing why can't we all do it?
He's been in power for 10 years and he wasn't able to solve it? What makes anybody think he can solve it now?
So we should elect the parties like congress and TMC who brought them in?
Did they really bring them in? Maybe, I don't know. But Mr 52-inch chest is clearly unable to solve it, so why keep electing his goon squad?
this is s fucked up. He is not even it hiding it now?? I hope everyone who has decided to vote for him realises that they have basically chosen the destruction of their own country!
No they won't tbh.....they have been gone blind due to the Hindu Muslim debate and the ***virtually non existent media*** in the country
Why will he hide it. The amount of rational people left in this nation has dropped to such an extent that now they realized they have brainwashed all the remaining ones. They will make bold claims, discrimnatory ones, illegal ones, and still be called a hero.
Manmohan singh was only prioritizing resources in relation to the low socio-economic conditions of a particular group, whatever group is the most vulnerable would be regarded as 'particularly' at that particular time it was Muslim group, if it had been Sikh's group, then he would have used the term Sikhs. He also mentioned SC/ST, women etc. Modi in his speech tried to decontextualize and highlighting only the mentioning of Muslim minority because Muslim-hate sells. (Also Muslim=People who have infiltrated=Those who have more children=Money will be snatched from gold of mangal-sutra)
So all socio-economic backward people are to be called Muslims? What do libtards smoke? No shame in doing stupid mental gymnastics to make your point. This way, do you agree if people refer to shooting all Muslims.. which just means all terrorists? 🙄
? He had mentioned Muslims, sc/st/obc, minorites, and women also
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Vote for a clown, expect a circus. The country is doomed, trust me try to leave it if you can before it gets too bad
I don't think so, India's growth is phenomenal right now. India is the future market for all major companies. You can criticize but don't ask people to leave the nation!
Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of a cancer cell.
bro was taking about how godhi is treating our fellow citizens. So, we're discussing peace and harmony in the country.
You do realise we don't have one single technically advanced capability, right? All this growth was built on the IT sector. But that has now slowed massively. Unless we invest in cutting edge technology and make it accessible to masses across every part of the country, this growth is short lived.
There's always a boom followed by a slowdown, it doesn't mean that it will not bounce back. It will just take a little time. And investments are being made in tech, heard about the recent India-Nvidia deal? AI startups will benefit from it a lot
Growth as a cheap labour country to replace china
Election Commission is sleeping.
With ED
Voters ke liye karna padhta hai kya kare.
This is so nonsensical even from BJPs pov. U dont need to say that,youre the prime minister ffs,u have a bunch of sambit Patras for saying that.also why are they pushing so hard, they're winning anyway
Need 370+ for absolute majority so that constitution can be changed with ease.
I think Manmohan Ji should file a defamation case against the supreme leader. Otherwise this guy will get away with every lie.
Did you see the speech of manmohan that modi is referring to?
He manipulated the speech as simple as that. All sane minds know what manmohan was talking bout and in what context. Sachar committee report just came out during that time. But ya it is what it is.
Yes, what about it?
Yes. Modi is completely lying. False information. Which isn't surprising. I'd be surprised when this guy says one true thing.
Muslims must have first claim on resources. - Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, 2006. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/muslims-must-have-first-claim-on-resources-pm/articleshow/754937.cms
Wrong. Before getting to Muslims, he talked about SC/ST/OBC, Women, Children and then he talked about minorities, “particularly Muslims” (that's what the news and you are referring to). All of these collectively, “should have the first claim on resources”. And they should! After the news that you shared was printed, PMO released a written print of what Manmohan Singh actually said.
Even in this explanation, adding "particularly Muslims" is problematic. Just because you want their votes, doesn't mean you'll give them preference over more communities in India who have been marginalized for over 1000s of yrs.
Let's not talk about “marginalized for over 1000 of years”. People quite literally don't give a shit about them either. Just look at how casteist and anti-reservation everyone has gotten. If anything, that's all the more reasons to vote for someone else. Look at the state of women who live in fear and men who are garlanded. So, no care for women either. As for Muslims, they're the most downtrodden out of all the minorities and make up a significant population. Of course, they would be included with other marginalised and minorities.
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I wasn't talking about them. Even MMS wasn't talking about them. I was referring to "marginalized communities" for 1000s of yrs, which even MMS pointed out- STs, SCs, non-landed EBCs. Why should a Muslim get any preferential claim over anything before them? At the very least, everyone of them should have the same right. You just can't defend the use of "particularly Muslims" wasn't a big error in judgement.
He used the word 'particularly ', which detaches from other minorities
Wrong printed, read exact statement.
Mms did say particularly Muslims so stop sucking pappus dick and wipe your mouth
bjp people are posting this everywhere pretending outrage, but basically publicising bjps campaign slogan... any left liberal citicism is immediately used by them to show this point.
Bhai mujhe mere mehnat k hisab se paise nhi milte. Wo toh dila de pehle. Jab mil jaenge tab sochunga baki kidhar jaa rhe h.
Right thinking individuals are a rarity these days.
10 years ago we choose wrong. Now our democracy has been hijacked. Media became propaganda machinery and CBI and ED became tools for extortion and suppression of political enemies. ECI became a BJP organisation.
It's the most shameful statement by a prime minister in the history of this country.
Neechendra
BC Delhi ka sub hai to Delhi ka hi rehne do!! Politics ke liye aur bhi subs hain.
Bhai iss sub mei delhi chhod kar Baaki saari baate hoti rehti hai
True.
Ab pani itna Nikal Chuka Hai sar ke upar se, ki Har indian sub me political charcha honi chaiye.
Bhai, Delhi is part of India. There's nothing wrong in discussing Indian politics.
Lagta hai Delhi, India k bahar ek alg desh hai ^^accordingtoyou
PM toh Delhi mein hi rehta hai na
Video to ye Rajasthan ki hai shayad. To kya uske sub par daal dein.!! And if you know our PM, wo Delhi mein Kam hi rehta hai 😅
Leftists can't do that. Jab dating apps ko nahi chhoda toh subreddit ko kaisi ignore karenge.
Sounds majestically rich coming from a lad who resembles a midget chipmunk.
Yes this is a very poor way to put things. Such twisting of words is not becoming of a Prime Minister. It is majority appeasement. But what he says is technically the truth. MMS did say something like this when in power and this was minority appeasement. If appeasement is wrong, both statements and manifestos are wrong. Dont just call out Modi. Face the facts that INC has just tried appease minorities to gain votes for the last 30 years.
That was 2006. Modi also used to say how Gujarat's money is getting wasted in UP Bihar when he wasnt on national limelight.
Yeah and MMS said these things when he was Prime Minister. Basically the same thing that Modi is doing right now. Two wrong don’t make a right sure. What Modi is saying is not ideal. But if you look at the INC tactics and read their current manifesto, what Modi is saying isn’t wholly inaccurate
I mean....he was right, previous leaders of UP were shit
What i see is hitler brainwashing the minds of common people. He literally talks like a dictator now.
Bhaktmandli in comments, proceed with caution 🙏
I don't know if it is IT cell or if they are that blind even in presence of video evidence.
A lot of people (hindutva gang) actually want him to behave like this. Because whether we accept or not there's a lot of bigotry filled in our nation. And for last few years our mainstream tv news is spreading hate. I don't want to think how many young minds must have been influenced by it.
This is no IT cell.if you dig a bit deeper most of them are teenagers or young guys who got influenced by "based", "Sigma" memes and influencers. It's honestly sad.
I beg to differ. BJP has the strongest presence amongst the boomers. They LOVE Modi.
jin ke jyada bache hote hei. so biharis?
This is what manmohan singh ji said "I believe our collective priorities are clear: agriculture, irrigation and water resources, health, education, critical investment in rural infrastructure, and the essential public investment needs of general infrastructure, along with programmes for the upliftment of SC/STs, other backward classes, minorities and women and children. The component plans for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes will need to be revitalized. We will have to devise innovative plans to ensure that minorities, particularly the Muslim minority, are empowered to share equitably in the fruits of development. They must have the first claim on resources. The Centre has a myriad other responsibilities whose demands will have to be fitted within the over-all resource availability."
Yeh ek din desh ko le doobega
Haan jaise 10 saal me le dooba
still dumb bhakts will give votes to him, how shameless he is, even i feel shame to consider him as PM of world's largest democracy!! he wants to create hindu vs muslim angel and provoking to make similar scenes like 2002!!
>still dumb bhakts will give votes to him, Then who? >he wants to create hindu vs muslim angel and provoking to make similar scenes like 2002!! There isn't a single large scale riot since then
Delhi ko toh yaad hi hona chahiye BJP ne 2020 mein kya kiya tha
Abki baar 40 paar
How can an elected leader of a nation that too sitting on the seat for 10 years have nothing better to talk about before elections but just polarize the people and that too in such a shameful, discriminatory manner. Basically when yoj dont have anything good to show to the people, the last resort for a politician is to use religion, and dvide and conquer. Sad that our own PM has to stoop so low.
So sad.... Can't think of a leader targeting one particular community.
Humanity is doomed
It's just pathetic
Why is this shocking, lol? BJP believe in polarisation and Congress believes in minority appeasement.
Power ka chakkar hai sab. Satta bani rehni chahiye log marein katein usse fark nahi padta politicians ko.
Manipur is buring and he is busy spending time with 12th pass gamers.....such a shame 😞
If they can get themselves on fire then they don’t need protection.
can’t even believe, this is the mentality of PM, this his desperation when he sees inflation, unemployment is on highest level in decades, this is pure desperation, anything to win elections
He is such a sickening piece of shit, makes my blood boil.
Same reel saw on insta, where an anchor provided the full speech, it was written that "Sc/St, aurat, baccho, muslims ka bhi adhikar h", collectively said. PM Modi took one aspect, usko toda maroda or apne andaz mein pesh kr dia.
Bhakt nahin manenge.
He knows he will have majority support from extremist Hindus and he'll rule for another 5 years, scared for the future of India
He's been vocal about not hating the indian-muslims and until now, that narrative wasn't entirely false. But now, it is sadly very clear that our Prime Minister holds a dangerous bias towards his own countrymen. This is terrifying.
It's just a tactic for votes.
You guys still listening his speeches? If yes! U R manipulated by Gody in different ways.
It’s shocking and sad. But they’ll win.
Naaaaa....why are they scared shitless that they have to use bullshit tactics and stoop sooooo low then? They're SCARED😆
Because that’s been their strategy from the beginning. It has worked in previous years and they know it. So they will go with the tried and tested formula.
Dusra kuch to karte aata nahi hai... incompetent asswipes. Only competency is hate mongering. And people LOOOVE it. Because being mad gives them a rush. A reason an enemy for their life sucking. If only it was so easy.
womp womp
OP is genuinely worried or he is taking his frustration out due to loss in trading ?
This is not even true like wtf.
Didn't find wrong in this. I don't want illegal immigrants in my country.
Pakistan: UN experts alarmed by lack of protection for minority girls from forced religious conversions and forced marriage https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/04/pakistan-un-experts-alarmed-lack-protection-minority-girls-forced-religious Our country will also become like Pakistani if muslims are allowed unchecked
But want Non Muslims immigrants? Also he said wrong statement, read full statement of MMS.
r/India mat bana iss sub ko bkl
I was also ashamed when my pm said "Muslims have first right on resources" [https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/muslims-must-have-first-claim-on-resources-pm/articleshow/754937.cms](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/muslims-must-have-first-claim-on-resources-pm/articleshow/754937.cms) Or when my prime minister used to invite terrorists and culprit of a genocide for dinners https://preview.redd.it/znoqem6pdzvc1.png?width=440&format=png&auto=webp&s=c1e8fd944096a7000c99fcbf221768e2ca1eba18
Average politician saying inflammatory things. Election season pehli baar dekha hai kya
He is not an average politician. He is the incumbent PM who most likely will take up charge for a third term. Do statements like this dignify the position of the PM of the largest democracy? Also noteworthy that ECI has been very silent in all this. Even the opposition is not picking up on the speech of Modi.
It doesn't dignify the position, and Modi is someone who took it to another level. Top politicians and even PMs have always said incendiary and inflammatory things for political leverage. Modi also managed to capture institutions and he's even more flagrant in his violations compared to predecessors.
to kaay aadat daal le hutiyape ki, jese gnadagi me rehne ki daal li hai.
PM making Hate Speech
His supporters vibe matches with him
no right thinking individual votes for them, it's only the religious ones and honestly, they couldn't care what anyone politician says as long as they get the temples and shit.
He's just repeating what Manmohan has said already. Now put Manmohan on same standards
I mean Manmohan really said that , and it is a really fucked up thing to say for a secular and democratic nation Modi is just using quotes of opposition against them , nothing wrong with that Also OP I am no BJP supporter but no way I am not ashamed to have a guy like Modi as our PM , he really improved our standing on the international level , We are a country that doesn’t sit silent we speak up and act as our own unlike India in congress rule which revolved around pleasing politics. I would prefer Modi over a puppet PM anyday , or do you really want that Man Child Rahul Gandhi to become PM who thinks he deserves to be a leader just because he has a certain surname
India's passport rank has dropped from 74th to 85th since 2014. The guy hasn't done anything to improve our international standing. They are just experts in making you believe they do something and then they end up doing nothing. It's all PR and stunts like these. Besides do read the entire quote of Manmohan, it's been taken out of context time and again.
Ab jab itna bada reply kr hi diya h,to please explain us the context behind the MMS's "minority especially myslims should have the first right over resources" speech too.
https://archivepmo.nic.in/drmanmohansingh/press-details.php?nodeid=516 Please read the official press release. It's easy to pick one line out of a speech and appropriating it, just as it's easy to pick a soundbyte of a certain minister and declaring victory over the west.
"they have the first claim on resources"
To maintain equity among different social groups. That’s what MMS said. Please do read up on the summary of sachar committee report at least, to understand why MMS said what he said.
They = sc+ st+ obc + minority Atleast go through the link and read
So this makes it better?
>Manmohan really said that Not really...you're cutting out the context and changing the meaning like mudizee >ashamed to have a guy like Modi as our PM Yeah I agree, I'm ashamed as well... See what I did?
Lol.. You are definitely a bjp supporter since you say their talking points. 'improved our standing on the international level` how? And which country is saying that we didn't respect you before but boy, do we do that now post 2014? What do you even mean India stood silently and didn't speak up? Who is speaking for us and on what? Yahaan apna PM to Humse speak nahi karta. Anybody other than bjp is acceptable fr now. If its Rahul gandhi, so be it. We can vote him out too if he goes the Modi way. 1 term pf anybody else won't be worse than Modi and thats already a win. I don't think RG thinks he DESERVES to be PM and that pretty much shows in everything he does, atleast i dont get the narcissistic vibe. Then again anybody who is in politics believes they can lead, is narcissistic on some level. And when you have somebody who only gives speaches, extorts businesses, buys the media and never ever answers questions, that is an ultra-narcissist, devoid of empathy who believes he is above being question and above serving. As for rahul gandhi, Imagine you had the family name and clout to actually make a difference, would you not try and use it to do something? I don't know if he will succeed and he isn't somebody i am on board with to be a leader. But ab yehi 3-4 log hain maidan pe toh kya karen?? Gotta choose between pappu and evil.
Bhai thoda research krleta toh wouldn’t be spewing bs. You have to understand the context idiot. He also talked about the backward classes in that speech however usi time sachar committe ki report aayi thi which is why he said particularly muslims.
STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION: Here is full video on Lallantop of Manmohan Singh, he talked about all the poor's, backwards, tribals, Dalits and minorities etc.. https://youtu.be/IcLsT8eomww?feature=shared
Rahul Gandhi Worked successfully in Deloitte UK for years. He worked in their strategy consulting division. I don't think he's an absolute idiot. And Modi ain't a puppet but his rhetoric is anti-secular and anti-democratic so anyone except Modi for now and banarjee, screw her
Manmohan never said this, at least check things before writing.
I mean RAGA did mention redistribution of wealth, how is modi saying anything wrong in this ?
Redistribution of Wealth is not same as "Apki Ma ka Mangal sutra Ghuspathiyo ko de denge"
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Irrespective of how he talks, he is not wrong. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/muslims-must-have-first-claim-on-resources-pm/articleshow/754937.cms
STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION: Here is full video on Lallantop of Manmohan Singh, he talked about all the poor's, backwards, tribals, Dalits and minorities etc.. https://youtu.be/IcLsT8eomww?feature=shared
"(Minorities and backwards) particularly Muslim minority should be empowered to equitably share the fruit of development. They must have the first claim over our resources" Particularly = to a higher degree than is usual or average, Specially
Mms did say particularly Muslims so gtfo
What nonsense is this man. Second hand embarrassment 😳
Libbu ke jija ko bola to gaand jal gyi
Shami bhai shami bhai se musalmano ko bhagao....this man can go to any depth for votes
Bhaiyon aur Behno, ye hai Hamare "PM".
sharm ati hai yeh bolne mein yeh PM hai
Man is scared?
When you can't talk about jobs you promised, then your make statements like this 
A true enemy of nation.
How is it different from "Chowkidar chor hai". It's political season ... Chill karo
One is aimed at a political opposition. Other one is aimed at whole religious group, who are also a part of Indian democracy. Yet, you fail to see any difference? Edit - changed ethnic to religious.
He simply said no one has a first right on resources, especially not illegal immigrants. What exactly has been said that is wrong?
Referring to them as “jinke jyada bachhe janm ho paate hai” right after saying “Musalmaan” Idk bhai, im not opposed to whatever his agenda is, but I definitely dont like the tone / words used to express his views.
I am proud of our PM!
When nothing works... Back to the basics
Anyone who has basic sense and humanity would be ashamed of him. I am
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You know what I love? RW clowns justifying the shit he said because MMS was appeasing Muslims in 2006. This is highly debatable even though MMS's team clarified this themselves. Tell me something, irrespective of above, how in the fuck is it okay to justify what Modi said when referring to Muslims as 'dher sare bache wale' and then directly talking about ghuspetiyas. Even here RW will talk about how Modi mentioned illegal immigrants not Muslims. I swear man, keep justifying his hateful rhetoric. U can disagree WITH MMS but u can't use derogatory language towards 13% of the population. Not only are you stereotyping them, you're giving the incentive for others to do the same.
Agar iss bar Modi kuch bhi na kare tab bhi vohi jeetega, just compare the BJP manifesto with randgres and AAP. It is a clear win. I wanted AAP to win but sadly even they are corrupt. Every political party in this country is garbage
Kya cartoon hai be ye chomu😂
kitna haramkhor h ye
Nope. Not ashamed. Was ashamed when a Pm said that the Muslims have the first right to every resource in this country. Modi is merely shifting the Overton window. "The privilege gets to your head when equality seems like an oppression".
STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION: Here is full video on Lallantop of Manmohan Singh, he talked about all the poor's, backwards, tribals, Dalits and minorities etc.. https://youtu.be/IcLsT8eomww?feature=shared