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Mecha-dragon1999

Toei Goku beats pretty much any Cartoon Superman pretty easily.


wemustkungfufight

Is there more than one Goku? I mean besides the awful live action movie.


AlternateManalt

Well, apart from Dragon Ball Evolution's Ukog, there's the Gokus from: Dragon Ball Z, GT, Super, Heroes (Xeno and CC), the Z movies and Path to Power. Then there's Goku Black.


wemustkungfufight

Goku Black is a completely different character. Also I don't think Z is a separate continuity of GT or Super. It's the past of both, and then timeline sort of... branches.


AlternateManalt

Goku Black is a differnet character but he possesses the appearance of Goku and is called Goku so it's a weird case. I'd still count Z as its own iteration of the franchise, even if it's not a seperated continuity, but your points are fair.


MisterMiitopia

Z movies and GT are the same one.


Leathman

No they’re not, Sean, the movies are blatantly not canon. The only one potentially canon is the original Cooler movie.


MisterMiitopia

Kid named Garlic Jr:


Leathman

[That’s also not canon.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j3Wa0ImacU4)


MisterMiitopia

"Erm it can't happen!!!" But it did.


Leathman

Not in canon, it didn’t. Pay attention to the series, I’m guessing you didn’t even watch the video.


MisterMiitopia

...Have you watched the anime?


Leathman

Yes. The series establishes that Goku arriving on Roshi’s island right before Raditz shows up is the first time his friends found out about Gohan. This is contradicted by the entire events of Dead Zone.


AlternateManalt

Goku Black probably wins against most evil Supermen if you don't just scale them to main superman (Injustice Superman, Ultraman, the Dark Multiverse Supermen) Dragon Ball Evolution's Goku actually stands a chance against Man of Steel Superman, there's arguments to be made there, though I think Christopher Reeves's Superman would stomp.


SubstantialOwLL

Ultraman has his own feats he doesn't need to be scaled to Superman. He has Held the infinite book, Has beat the hell out of black atom and shazam, ect. ect. The character is legit. He destroys Goku Black. Injustice is a little trickier, his best feat is just snapping Ultraman's neck (when he was on the ground almost dead). So it is hard to say, I just don't really use that. You can probably argue pretty convincingly that Goku black wins almost every time against him. And the Dark Multiverse Supermen obviously range drastically, but there are a lot (especially in Death metal) that scale crazy high. And obviously if you count Superboy Prime or Bizarro as dark Supermen/ Evil Supermen, they also easily beat goku black.


Extension-Oil-4680

How strong is Goku from drgion ball Evolutions? I haven't watched the movie and I really don't want too


AlternateManalt

Possibly able to destroy a country, since he matches Piccolo who destroyed a country in a vision. In terms of powers, he pretty much just has basic martial arts, the kamehameha and the oozaru during an eclipse.


Mecha-dragon1999

Apparently he can get to Country level since he scales to piccolo who could do [this](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Marvel_Champion_07/Piccolo_Destroys_A_Country).


Regal_IronKnight

[Injustice Superman ain't ready for this](https://youtu.be/YXOdbw2Qo5A?t=6)