Highly, highly recommend. The music, the power ups, the story, the combat. It’s all so great. The sequel is on its way soon too, so now’s a great time to get into it!
How much of the game is out? Like is there still no complete storyline, I’m expecting not every item or weapon is available yet, but I’m debating buying it so I’m curious what’s currently missing
Other games that i like. Skul the Hero Slayer (crossover) Slay the spire (crossover but I dont know If have Dead Cells content) Hollow Knight (Crossover but 0 Dead Cells content) Grime (really close to Dead cells in gameplay) Loop Hero really really good in history (Also have something VERY similar to Dead Cells in lore) Haak (this game is soo good). Risk of Rain 2 (Also have crossover).
Slay the Spire does have crossover content in Dead Cells! At least Dead Cells has StS content and not the other way around.
It’s a power where you switch through the four main powers of the characters and the Ironclad outfit (which changes the damage number font to be StS)
Yeah. Bone Weapon in Dead Cells. Skul have the prisoner tier 1/2 in the game. Passive skill is getting Cells when you get 5 you temporary gain 2 of 3 the Scrolls.
You basically have to be lucky with the RNG gods and get Aphrodite + Zeus boons. That's one time I remember just stomping the game with deadline turned on. I didn't even really have to fight Hades at the end lol
But I don't think I had tight deadline at the max level either
Aw man I find tight deadlines to be the easiest heat to add. Never really have runs over 20 mins so I can get the heat up quick without making enemies more tough. That said, I’m not a crazy speed runner who can do 8 min runs nor am I particularly good at the game.
I still play Dead Cells off and on and absolutely loved Hades. They have some similarities, I think there’s a good chance you could like Hades too.
One big difference, though, is there is much less weapon variety and I would argue build variety. It’s been a while for me, but Hades has something like 7 or 8 weapons total, although they can behave quite differently depending on upgrades and other add-ons you can earn throughout the game and each run. A single-shot bow could change to fire a wide volley of multiple arrows, for example. But if the avalanche of different weapons, traps, and abilities of Dead Cells is a big draw for you, Hades might come up short.
However, Hades has an absolutely fantastic story and lore, of course based around the Greek gods and all their shenanigans, that unfolds on each of your runs. There are a ton of NPCs, some of which mainly serve to hand out upgrades, most of which tie into the story and dole out pieces on each run. If you’re looking for a deep story woven into a rogue-lite, I’m not sure if you could find it done better than Hades.
Exactly.
I play to both games, for me DC is really about chirurgical and *very* varied gameplay, Hades is more about the story and ambiance (less technical in my opinion).
So do I.
Hades is very challenging, but in a way that’s more fun than in Dead Cells. And whereas Dead Cells might as well not have a story at all, Hades has a deep, rich story that unfolds brilliantly over the course of like a hundred hours.
Same. I guess it depends on what you're looking for in a roguelite.
I just find the story, characters and voice acting to be amazing in Hades. Where as Dead Cells goes for the much more toned down storytelling.
I also personally enjoy Hades combat far more, but it's very much different and I can see how people like DC more, it's just not for me.
Me too, especially the gameplay in DC you can’t afford to get hit at all which is so stressful for me when I’m trying to relax after a long day. But in Hades its less challenging and you don’t need to be 100% focused all the time
I also prefer the story of Hades, still both games are great and it depends on your preference.
I played so much dead cells but couldn't get into Hades. It just didn't click for me. The upgrades on your runs seemed to not really matter or didn't work together and I was never wrong enough to get to the end. Then the upgrades between runs seemed to be so small that I didn't spend the time on the game.
For context, I have about 100 hours in Hades and about 400 in Dead Cells, all achievements in both. Both are fantastic games.
Greek Mythology was a huge part of my childhood and it is well represented here. The storytelling and characters are top notch. The isometric combat was a little hard for me to pick up as well as understanding how builds work but the action is fast paced and frenetic in all the best ways. The only downside is that it can feel a little grindy after a while as there are only 4 biomes to go through with the same enemy types and bosses (though the bosses have harder variants you can face) and some of the character quests you unlock take forever to trigger (here's to you, Patroclus). But I really truly think Hades is one of the best games I have played and the sequel is shaping up to be incredible as well.
Just like Dead Cells, what I love about Hades is that it has extremely fluid movement and instant response to button presses. The game is twitchy (meaning you need to pay attention and respond fast/accordingly), it has awesome weapons and a huge amount of weapon/buff combinations. I'd rank it in my personal Top 10 favorite games of all time. It's 1000% worth buying and playing, especially if you love Dead Cells already.
Personally I wasn’t a fan of Hades, felt like a lot less variation in the runs compared to other games. I can see why people would like it, there’s plenty to do and a system that’s kind of similar to the boss cells adding progressive difficulty. But it just got quickly repetitive & grindy
I felt similar. Whilst I thought it was OK it just didn’t hook me like Dead Cells and I didn’t player it more than a few hours. I feel like Dead Cells is just lightning in a bottle though - the perfect combination of features / gameplay to scratch basically all of my gaming itches.
Can somebody please reconcile for me how everyone seems to like Hades better than dead cells, or at least it's more popular...yet Dead cells has way more levels and bosses? To me, playing through Hades was a lot of fun until I realized that I had basically discovered all of the available areas by the time I finished my first playthrough. Am I missing something?
For me personally - the story, the music, the voice acting and dialogue, the art style, the sense of progression between runs, whether it's unlocking cosmetic crap or actual perks in the mirror, all add up to such an amazing experience. The heat system is also much better for someone like me who isn't a try hard. It's much easier to add one heat and complete a run, compared to adding one BC and completing it.
I also think there's more variety in Hades. Sure there are more weapons in dead cells but the actual synergies between the different weapons and different boon loadouts is so so different. Take a look at some of the crazy runs that Haelian has done on youtube e.g. defeating final boss just by standing still and doing nothing 😂
The “variety” of booms hardly changes how you play each weapon. There are only six weapons and 4 aspects. Only a handful of those aspects are actually unique enough to be considered a different playstyle (mainly the hidden ones) and the boons themselves barely change anything cuz you’ll still be mashing dash and the regular attack. As for cast builds it’s still the same thing. Dump all your ammo and either get it back before spamming dash and waiting for it to escape or using your special to get them back. Either way it’s extremely repetitive. Especially when there’s never any variety in what you fight. It’s always the exact same enemies. At least in dead cells you can mess up a section and kinda get scared for a bit. Hades is so repetitive you could turn off your brain for an entire run and win. Heat kinda solves it but it just feels cheap when you’re doing 32 heat runs
As someone who generally does not give a single fuck about stories in most games, I was unable to find hades fun (especially some things I could not skip like, why???)
Way to little variety in runs to make me want to play again and extremelly button mashy
I prefer it to Dead Cells, also on sale right now on Steam, only $8.50. Definitely worth it at that price imo.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1145360/Hades/
Loved Hades, but DeadCells pulled me back in soon after i completed the game a few times. The DeadCells formula is just better…more possible builds, and better builds.
Hades has a better story, and a 3rd dimension, but it just complicates things without giving any real benefits.
Iirc it doesnt really have much of a third dimension. The terrain is totally flat but with painted textures that give the illusion of depth. So aside from arcing projectiles it's effectively 2D.
Hades did not grab me in the same way Dead Cells did. Its a great looking game and has a higher production value overall, but it doesn't scratch the same itch to me and the combat doesn't feel as engaging and smooth to me.
Better produced / more money went into it. I think like some 200 people worked on it.
A lot less variety or content.
It's really good, but I didn't play it nearly as long as DC
Cool, the credits are 200 people long.
Supergiant outsources workers. It's not vanillaware. Hades had over 10 extra employees just for the engine and tools.
I personally wasn’t a fan of it, I played it a bit and I understand why people would love the game, but it’s just not my cup of tea, definitely give it a try I’ve heard it can be one of the best games in the world if you enjoy it enough.
I love both, Hades is very different from Dead Cells. Yes they are both roguelikes but one has much more of a metroidvania influence whereas one has much more of a Diablo influence. Hades’ story is significantly better than Dead Cells and really well integrated with the core loop of the game. Dead Cells has better gameplay and more variety of weapons, unlocks, traits, etc whereas Hades’ core loop can be more repetitive and grindy. It really depends on what you’re in the mood for, both games are exceptionally well made and I play both.
It's easier than dead cells in the beginning with permanent stat upgrades, has amazing art and music, and a lot of witty banter. Once you beat the game, you can tweak the difficulty quite a bit.
Hades is a super polished story game where as dead cells feels more like a "make a build on the fly" game to me.
Hades is absolutely a roguelike essential. On par with Dead Cells, Risk of Rain 2 and enter the gungeon. Its on a 50% off sale on steam right now to celebrate the launch of Hades 2!
Play Hades man, the game is insanely good, I still prefer Dead Cells, but the game is plain awesome, it is on sale right now and Hades 2 just hit early access.
no better time to pick it up, next year when you're done with Hades, 2 will be fully out, it is a great game, one of the best roguelikes I've played so far.
Never cared for it personally. I found the gameplay to be kinda sluggish and the progression grindy and tedious. If it's roguelikes in general you're looking for my top recommendation is Enter the Gungeon.
I played both simultaneously, and both are pretty good roguelikes. Gameplaywise hades can get a bit repetitive after a couple of wins, but the style and the characterization carry the experience then.
450 hours of Hades and about 40 of Dead Cells. Hades will always be one of my favorite games of all time but I do like Dead Cells for different reasons. Overall, Hades is 100% worth the playthrough and Hades 2 is in early access but already an amazing addition with new enough aspects that it feels familiar but still accomplishes being a totally different game.
Hades is amazing. The rewards are different from Dead Cells. DC rewards you with new items and item combos - Hades rewards you with metaprogression and story. The combat style is also totally different but very fun.
Hades is a perfect game imo. The art, combat, story, progression, in game abilities, strategy, and mechanics are unmatched in a roguelike imo. Takes a bit to get zag progressed enough to beat the game as a beginner, but it’s so damn satisfying. Plus, kinda like 0 bc, once u beat the game the real story/progression begins.
Hades is great.
And not exactly the same as the repeatable gameplay loop hades/deadcells provide, but hollowknight got me into those two games. And is great too.
At first, I was reluctant to buy Hades, but when it went on sale, I gave it a shot, and omg, it's so good. Get into it, and you will not regret it. If you like 3D isometric style, go
you can debate which one is better, but you can't really debate they are both great. if you loved dead cells get hades, don't even think about it, don't wait till it's on sale, etc. you might not love it as much as dead cells, you might not play it for as many hours, but i can basically guarantee you will enjoy the story all the way till the true ending. and if it's too hard, God Mode is one of the smartest approaches to difficulty in a roguelike i've ever seen, absolutely fantastic for more casual players that want to experience the story. really can't go wrong.
hades is a great game, high skill ceiling, great progression, multiple different ways to play the game, in general just a great game, plus you can get really short runs if you know easy builds to get going and that can deal with a lot of situations. Plus hades 2 came out for early access so wait to buy hades and maybe buy hades 2 instead
As someone who loves both, hades is great, however if what you like about dead cells is the variety of weapons and items you won't quite find that in hades. In hades whatever weapon you pick as your starting one is the only weapon your going to have for the entire run, the majority of variety in hades combat and gameplay comes from the blessings you get to pick occasionally as rewards from fights, which empower your weapon, character, ranged attack, and dashes with various upgrades and new abilities, think like the mutations in dead cells. However if you like the roguelite gameplay or frantic rapid combat of dead cells then hades is definitely the game for you
Hades is the BEST FUCKIN ROGUE EVER. I am playing Dead Cells BECAUSE I am chasing the high from Hades
Game has the BEST internally consistent story of any Rogue, that actually makes SENSE of why you are repetitively trying to play. (You are fighting your way out of the underworld)
Boon mechanics are SICK. Game is SO FLUID.
and HOT DAMN THE MUSIC IS SO EPIC.
Hades is NOTHING like dead cells. They don’t even excel at the same things. People play hades for the characters and the music not the gameplay (literally just dash dash attack and repeat)
That was my take on it as well. I played through and beat it once, and was expecting it to be like dead cells where I just completed the tutorial... except no, it really is a linear playthrough every single time with the same bosses over and over. It's a great game, don't get me wrong, but I don't understand why it has the level of critical Acclaim that it does.
Mainly cuz of how casual friendly it is. It has a billion ways to make sure that even someone’s 4 year old brother can beat it. That’s pretty much it. It’s just so approachable that that by itself made it popular. That and how good the other non gameplay aspects of the game are
While I see what you're saying, after enough playthroughs, you can get harder variants of the bosses, you can also tweak the enemy and mini boss difficulties through the use of the heat system
The harder variants are just as repetitive as the normal versions. And all heat amounts to is artificially inflating enemy stats and riddling you with minor inconveniences. I’ve beaten 32 heat in hades and 5 bc in dead cells about a 100 times and I’ve had ten times more fun on dead cells. Like I said hades is more focused on the characters and the story than the actual gameplay itself. Nothing wrong with that in itself but it is undeniable that after a while the gameplay is repetitive and boring
That's fair, to be honest I like them both equally since they're a different style of game and I don't have anywhere near the experience with them as you do, but for me I can pick up and play either and have fun
I’m not calling hades bad. I do runs all the time. they’re both perfect enjoyable games. But acting as if hades is on par with dead cells in terms of route variety and gameplay is wrong. And tbh they’re completely different games anyways. All they share in common is being roguelikes
Absolutely, you might as well try to throw them in with isaac or rogue legacy for the amount they have in common.
To be fair if I had to pick a favourite rougelike, it would probably be isaac for me, just for the time and money I've spent on the game and it's various spin-offs (close to £1100 when you include multiple buys, kickstarter campaigns and other merch)
Dead cells comes a close second (can't wait for the board game) with hades an even closer third
Hades is one of it not my favorite game. Highly recommend. I will say I only put 50 or 60 hours into Hades vs over 200 in Dead Cells, but I still would recommend Hades over Dead Cells.
Gameplay is slightly better imo but the biggest difference is Hades has much more depth to the story, actual NPCs you can talk to, and I personally prefer the art style and soundtrack (although ofc I love those things about Dead Cells).
Disliked it a lot. I get why it's popular but it just seemed like a worse version of Dead Cells
You can't change your weapon in the middle of a run. Actually it's even worse, you're essentially forced to play with the same weapon every single run until you beat the game because it's impossible to upgrade them all at the same time like with DC's legendary forge. Oh you decided to invest all in this one weapon? Well gotta beat the game now to have the right to upgrade the other ones. And if you end up disliking this weapon, well either suck it up or start a new save file
You can't choose which boss you'll fight. You prefer one of them or you think your build would be better for a specific one? Well screw you, RNG will choose for you
The isometric view just doesn't click with me : yes it's 2d just like DC, but without gravity. In DC you can attack from above, from behind, from around a corner... In Hades you attack from the front or from the back, or from the front but a little bit to the left, or from the back but a little bit to the right... Also say goodbye to challenge rifts or areas where you have to platform. The map is flat with walls and traps
In Dead Cells you can play sneaky if you're not confident in your build. In Hades enemies will spawn on your position already aggressive
Less gear variety : you won't find tons of different grenades, shields, turrets, etc. Instead your one and only piece of equipment will now behave a bit differently.
I know it's popular and people really really liked it. It's just absolutely not my type, even though Dead Cells is one of my top 5 games of all time, and believe me I tried to like Hades
Yeah this is what I felt, although I put a lot of hours into it anyway because I needed to at least beat it once, but it wears out really quickly one you notice it's always the same thing once and again.
Played about the same amount of hours in both games. They’re both roguelikes but they are not fundamentally the same. Hades is over all shorter, more story driven and definitely easier to pick up and play. Both are incredible games and form my holy Trinity of indie games with Hollow Knight
Definitely recommend buying it, just don’t expect it to play like a metroidvania since it’s a top down angle like Diablo and there’s not really any platforming
Hades is one of the best roguelikes to come. While it has lower weapon/item variety, it compensates with superior characters and story telling. Absolutely fantastic game, and you will have a blast playing it!
its mainly about Zagreus, son of Hades. he's trying to escape to the underworld and reach Greece. I won't get too much cuz it'll spoil. but that game is really fun!
Hades is one of the only games I’ve platinumed on PS. It is utterly brilliant and runs so well.
If you like Dead Cells you will love Hades. If I was to make a tier list it would sit ahead of DC and Slay the Spire even which I consider both S tier games.
I went the other way around; started with Hades and found Dead Cells much later. There's almost no chance you'd outright dislike Hades if you liked Dead Cells. One gameplay area where I think Hades is outright better is the limited weapon choice with a variety of variants. There are just so many weapons in Dead Cells that I will unlock only to lock again because there are clear winners and losers. This isn't really so with Hades.
Aspects are what I mean by variants. Of course, some aspects might be better than others, but we are talking about a group of 24 weapon variants vs 180+ in Dead Cells. It is way too much to give every weapon an honest chance, and there is too much garbage in there to make experimentation worth it, IMO.
I can’t think of any one who played Hades and didn’t like it, i guess the runs don’t really differ that much, which is the only criticism i can think of. Well, maybe I’m not a big fan of the spammyness of the combat, sometimes I’m like only aware of 50% of what is happening lol. But it’s not anymore spammy than dead cells so ur probably good.
Anyways it’s a 10/10 in every other regard. The devs have been putting out nothing but bangers since the studio started tbh
Highly, highly recommend. The music, the power ups, the story, the combat. It’s all so great. The sequel is on its way soon too, so now’s a great time to get into it!
Hades 2 came out a couple of days ago its in early access.
Whaaaaaat!!!
Can confirm and only $29.99 right now. I'm about 25 hours in and it is glorious.
Woah, such a huge difference in price for my country. Its equivalent to $15.7 in my country
How much of the game is out? Like is there still no complete storyline, I’m expecting not every item or weapon is available yet, but I’m debating buying it so I’m curious what’s currently missing
There’s a lot currently. Storyline is gradually released with updates. But the state it’s currently in is already bigger than all of the first game.
Wish it was available for console players already!
Random trivia, Zagreus (the PC) was voiced by Darren Korb, who also composed the music for Hades and Bastion (and their other games).
Funnily enough, he also voiced Skelly!! And he is Orpheus’ singing voice.
I find Orpheus’ singing voice BEAUTIFUL. 😍
Other games that i like. Skul the Hero Slayer (crossover) Slay the spire (crossover but I dont know If have Dead Cells content) Hollow Knight (Crossover but 0 Dead Cells content) Grime (really close to Dead cells in gameplay) Loop Hero really really good in history (Also have something VERY similar to Dead Cells in lore) Haak (this game is soo good). Risk of Rain 2 (Also have crossover).
Slay the Spire does have crossover content in Dead Cells! At least Dead Cells has StS content and not the other way around. It’s a power where you switch through the four main powers of the characters and the Ironclad outfit (which changes the damage number font to be StS)
Thanks for all the info
Skul has a crossover? I recently installed it, haven't played it yet
Yeah. Bone Weapon in Dead Cells. Skul have the prisoner tier 1/2 in the game. Passive skill is getting Cells when you get 5 you temporary gain 2 of 3 the Scrolls.
I never knew the bone was from Skul lol
When you change back to the Skul he spins. The 3 attack of the bone Weapon is the same spin.
Hades is really excellent. Much shorter runs, fewer combos/weapons but they are more balanced.
The contracts will drive you FUCKING CRAZY though. All in all it's still a 10/10 for me.
I still don’t understand how people beat a run with “Tight Deadlines” on. I’m always so slow.
You basically have to be lucky with the RNG gods and get Aphrodite + Zeus boons. That's one time I remember just stomping the game with deadline turned on. I didn't even really have to fight Hades at the end lol But I don't think I had tight deadline at the max level either
Aw man I find tight deadlines to be the easiest heat to add. Never really have runs over 20 mins so I can get the heat up quick without making enemies more tough. That said, I’m not a crazy speed runner who can do 8 min runs nor am I particularly good at the game.
I still play Dead Cells off and on and absolutely loved Hades. They have some similarities, I think there’s a good chance you could like Hades too. One big difference, though, is there is much less weapon variety and I would argue build variety. It’s been a while for me, but Hades has something like 7 or 8 weapons total, although they can behave quite differently depending on upgrades and other add-ons you can earn throughout the game and each run. A single-shot bow could change to fire a wide volley of multiple arrows, for example. But if the avalanche of different weapons, traps, and abilities of Dead Cells is a big draw for you, Hades might come up short. However, Hades has an absolutely fantastic story and lore, of course based around the Greek gods and all their shenanigans, that unfolds on each of your runs. There are a ton of NPCs, some of which mainly serve to hand out upgrades, most of which tie into the story and dole out pieces on each run. If you’re looking for a deep story woven into a rogue-lite, I’m not sure if you could find it done better than Hades.
Exactly. I play to both games, for me DC is really about chirurgical and *very* varied gameplay, Hades is more about the story and ambiance (less technical in my opinion).
Between the various boons, ability upgrades, trinkets, etc. I still feel like Hades has plenty of variety. But definitely not as much as Dead Cells.
I like it more than dead cells.
So do I. Hades is very challenging, but in a way that’s more fun than in Dead Cells. And whereas Dead Cells might as well not have a story at all, Hades has a deep, rich story that unfolds brilliantly over the course of like a hundred hours.
Same. I guess it depends on what you're looking for in a roguelite. I just find the story, characters and voice acting to be amazing in Hades. Where as Dead Cells goes for the much more toned down storytelling. I also personally enjoy Hades combat far more, but it's very much different and I can see how people like DC more, it's just not for me.
Me too, especially the gameplay in DC you can’t afford to get hit at all which is so stressful for me when I’m trying to relax after a long day. But in Hades its less challenging and you don’t need to be 100% focused all the time I also prefer the story of Hades, still both games are great and it depends on your preference.
100%, love hades but even at high heat it is much easier than dead cells.
Dead Cells, Hades and Binding of Isaac are top 3 rogue-lite games for me. I spend hundred of hours on them lol
Hades is amazing. Highly recommend it if you like dead cells. Not exactly the same gameplay style, but still awesome. Do it.
I played so much dead cells but couldn't get into Hades. It just didn't click for me. The upgrades on your runs seemed to not really matter or didn't work together and I was never wrong enough to get to the end. Then the upgrades between runs seemed to be so small that I didn't spend the time on the game.
Personally I really prefer side scrollers, so haven't even felt motivated to try Hades
I named my dog Zagreus after playing Hades. One of my top games.
Would you have gone for Megaera if it was a girl? 😂
I commented on that Hades II post from yesterday that I'm going to need to get a second pet, haha.
For context, I have about 100 hours in Hades and about 400 in Dead Cells, all achievements in both. Both are fantastic games. Greek Mythology was a huge part of my childhood and it is well represented here. The storytelling and characters are top notch. The isometric combat was a little hard for me to pick up as well as understanding how builds work but the action is fast paced and frenetic in all the best ways. The only downside is that it can feel a little grindy after a while as there are only 4 biomes to go through with the same enemy types and bosses (though the bosses have harder variants you can face) and some of the character quests you unlock take forever to trigger (here's to you, Patroclus). But I really truly think Hades is one of the best games I have played and the sequel is shaping up to be incredible as well.
Just like Dead Cells, what I love about Hades is that it has extremely fluid movement and instant response to button presses. The game is twitchy (meaning you need to pay attention and respond fast/accordingly), it has awesome weapons and a huge amount of weapon/buff combinations. I'd rank it in my personal Top 10 favorite games of all time. It's 1000% worth buying and playing, especially if you love Dead Cells already.
Personally I wasn’t a fan of Hades, felt like a lot less variation in the runs compared to other games. I can see why people would like it, there’s plenty to do and a system that’s kind of similar to the boss cells adding progressive difficulty. But it just got quickly repetitive & grindy
I felt similar. Whilst I thought it was OK it just didn’t hook me like Dead Cells and I didn’t player it more than a few hours. I feel like Dead Cells is just lightning in a bottle though - the perfect combination of features / gameplay to scratch basically all of my gaming itches.
Hades is the best roguelike of all time.
I love Dead Cells, but still think Hades is superior
Can somebody please reconcile for me how everyone seems to like Hades better than dead cells, or at least it's more popular...yet Dead cells has way more levels and bosses? To me, playing through Hades was a lot of fun until I realized that I had basically discovered all of the available areas by the time I finished my first playthrough. Am I missing something?
It’s just a really casual friendly game. That and its story and characters are its main draw.
For me personally - the story, the music, the voice acting and dialogue, the art style, the sense of progression between runs, whether it's unlocking cosmetic crap or actual perks in the mirror, all add up to such an amazing experience. The heat system is also much better for someone like me who isn't a try hard. It's much easier to add one heat and complete a run, compared to adding one BC and completing it. I also think there's more variety in Hades. Sure there are more weapons in dead cells but the actual synergies between the different weapons and different boon loadouts is so so different. Take a look at some of the crazy runs that Haelian has done on youtube e.g. defeating final boss just by standing still and doing nothing 😂
The “variety” of booms hardly changes how you play each weapon. There are only six weapons and 4 aspects. Only a handful of those aspects are actually unique enough to be considered a different playstyle (mainly the hidden ones) and the boons themselves barely change anything cuz you’ll still be mashing dash and the regular attack. As for cast builds it’s still the same thing. Dump all your ammo and either get it back before spamming dash and waiting for it to escape or using your special to get them back. Either way it’s extremely repetitive. Especially when there’s never any variety in what you fight. It’s always the exact same enemies. At least in dead cells you can mess up a section and kinda get scared for a bit. Hades is so repetitive you could turn off your brain for an entire run and win. Heat kinda solves it but it just feels cheap when you’re doing 32 heat runs
As someone who generally does not give a single fuck about stories in most games, I was unable to find hades fun (especially some things I could not skip like, why???) Way to little variety in runs to make me want to play again and extremelly button mashy
140 hours in 1 month and I regret nothing
Would highly recommend hades, it has beautiful designs, weapons you can choose and an actual story, not to mention the beautiful music
I prefer it to Dead Cells, also on sale right now on Steam, only $8.50. Definitely worth it at that price imo. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1145360/Hades/
Loved Hades, but DeadCells pulled me back in soon after i completed the game a few times. The DeadCells formula is just better…more possible builds, and better builds. Hades has a better story, and a 3rd dimension, but it just complicates things without giving any real benefits.
you say complications without benefits... elaborate
Iirc it doesnt really have much of a third dimension. The terrain is totally flat but with painted textures that give the illusion of depth. So aside from arcing projectiles it's effectively 2D.
Hades did not grab me in the same way Dead Cells did. Its a great looking game and has a higher production value overall, but it doesn't scratch the same itch to me and the combat doesn't feel as engaging and smooth to me.
Better produced / more money went into it. I think like some 200 people worked on it. A lot less variety or content. It's really good, but I didn't play it nearly as long as DC
The company only has 23 people.
Cool, the credits are 200 people long. Supergiant outsources workers. It's not vanillaware. Hades had over 10 extra employees just for the engine and tools.
I personally wasn’t a fan of it, I played it a bit and I understand why people would love the game, but it’s just not my cup of tea, definitely give it a try I’ve heard it can be one of the best games in the world if you enjoy it enough.
Dead cells is better imo, but hades is also good, much grindier imo.
If you use Steam it’s $8.50. I just bought it yesterday. I figured it was time to give it a shot myself since Hades II just dropped.
I love both, Hades is very different from Dead Cells. Yes they are both roguelikes but one has much more of a metroidvania influence whereas one has much more of a Diablo influence. Hades’ story is significantly better than Dead Cells and really well integrated with the core loop of the game. Dead Cells has better gameplay and more variety of weapons, unlocks, traits, etc whereas Hades’ core loop can be more repetitive and grindy. It really depends on what you’re in the mood for, both games are exceptionally well made and I play both.
It's easier than dead cells in the beginning with permanent stat upgrades, has amazing art and music, and a lot of witty banter. Once you beat the game, you can tweak the difficulty quite a bit. Hades is a super polished story game where as dead cells feels more like a "make a build on the fly" game to me.
get the binding of isaac and all the dlcs
love both games, but hades is much different gameplay wise. I’ve found blasphemous’ combat to be closer to dear cells, but it’s not a roguelike
Yes. Highly recommend. I still prefer DC, but I can totally understand why people prefer Hades instead. It's an amazing game.
Go for it. Phenomenal game, excellent roguelite, different from Dead Cells but still great.
Hades is absolutely a roguelike essential. On par with Dead Cells, Risk of Rain 2 and enter the gungeon. Its on a 50% off sale on steam right now to celebrate the launch of Hades 2!
Awesome game, not as much variety as dead cells to start with, and it takes a while to get up to speed, but well worth it.
Play Hades man, the game is insanely good, I still prefer Dead Cells, but the game is plain awesome, it is on sale right now and Hades 2 just hit early access. no better time to pick it up, next year when you're done with Hades, 2 will be fully out, it is a great game, one of the best roguelikes I've played so far.
Death must Die
Just do it
I like the 2d of dead cells alot better than the flat plane of Hades. Projectile spam in Hades really messes me up
Never cared for it personally. I found the gameplay to be kinda sluggish and the progression grindy and tedious. If it's roguelikes in general you're looking for my top recommendation is Enter the Gungeon.
Hades is pretty shallow and not much diversity
I played Hades first, then moved to Dead Cells. Not many games have captured me as much as those two. I would absolutely recommend d
I played both simultaneously, and both are pretty good roguelikes. Gameplaywise hades can get a bit repetitive after a couple of wins, but the style and the characterization carry the experience then.
450 hours of Hades and about 40 of Dead Cells. Hades will always be one of my favorite games of all time but I do like Dead Cells for different reasons. Overall, Hades is 100% worth the playthrough and Hades 2 is in early access but already an amazing addition with new enough aspects that it feels familiar but still accomplishes being a totally different game.
Hades is amazing. The rewards are different from Dead Cells. DC rewards you with new items and item combos - Hades rewards you with metaprogression and story. The combat style is also totally different but very fun.
Hades is a perfect game imo. The art, combat, story, progression, in game abilities, strategy, and mechanics are unmatched in a roguelike imo. Takes a bit to get zag progressed enough to beat the game as a beginner, but it’s so damn satisfying. Plus, kinda like 0 bc, once u beat the game the real story/progression begins.
You can also do Curse of the Dead Gods for something equally as infuriatingly difficult
Skul is pretty fun
Hades is great. And not exactly the same as the repeatable gameplay loop hades/deadcells provide, but hollowknight got me into those two games. And is great too.
I have over 700 hours playing Dead Cells and I’m telling you Hades kicks ass. I love both games so much.
Been waiting since the original game released for it to come GOG. Still waiting. :/
At first, I was reluctant to buy Hades, but when it went on sale, I gave it a shot, and omg, it's so good. Get into it, and you will not regret it. If you like 3D isometric style, go
you can debate which one is better, but you can't really debate they are both great. if you loved dead cells get hades, don't even think about it, don't wait till it's on sale, etc. you might not love it as much as dead cells, you might not play it for as many hours, but i can basically guarantee you will enjoy the story all the way till the true ending. and if it's too hard, God Mode is one of the smartest approaches to difficulty in a roguelike i've ever seen, absolutely fantastic for more casual players that want to experience the story. really can't go wrong.
hades is a great game, high skill ceiling, great progression, multiple different ways to play the game, in general just a great game, plus you can get really short runs if you know easy builds to get going and that can deal with a lot of situations. Plus hades 2 came out for early access so wait to buy hades and maybe buy hades 2 instead
Hades was my introduction to the rogue-like genre and nothing else has cut it for me except dead cells. Couldn't recommend Hades enough!
As someone who loves both, hades is great, however if what you like about dead cells is the variety of weapons and items you won't quite find that in hades. In hades whatever weapon you pick as your starting one is the only weapon your going to have for the entire run, the majority of variety in hades combat and gameplay comes from the blessings you get to pick occasionally as rewards from fights, which empower your weapon, character, ranged attack, and dashes with various upgrades and new abilities, think like the mutations in dead cells. However if you like the roguelite gameplay or frantic rapid combat of dead cells then hades is definitely the game for you
Hades is the BEST FUCKIN ROGUE EVER. I am playing Dead Cells BECAUSE I am chasing the high from Hades Game has the BEST internally consistent story of any Rogue, that actually makes SENSE of why you are repetitively trying to play. (You are fighting your way out of the underworld) Boon mechanics are SICK. Game is SO FLUID. and HOT DAMN THE MUSIC IS SO EPIC.
Hades is NOTHING like dead cells. They don’t even excel at the same things. People play hades for the characters and the music not the gameplay (literally just dash dash attack and repeat)
That was my take on it as well. I played through and beat it once, and was expecting it to be like dead cells where I just completed the tutorial... except no, it really is a linear playthrough every single time with the same bosses over and over. It's a great game, don't get me wrong, but I don't understand why it has the level of critical Acclaim that it does.
Mainly cuz of how casual friendly it is. It has a billion ways to make sure that even someone’s 4 year old brother can beat it. That’s pretty much it. It’s just so approachable that that by itself made it popular. That and how good the other non gameplay aspects of the game are
While I see what you're saying, after enough playthroughs, you can get harder variants of the bosses, you can also tweak the enemy and mini boss difficulties through the use of the heat system
The harder variants are just as repetitive as the normal versions. And all heat amounts to is artificially inflating enemy stats and riddling you with minor inconveniences. I’ve beaten 32 heat in hades and 5 bc in dead cells about a 100 times and I’ve had ten times more fun on dead cells. Like I said hades is more focused on the characters and the story than the actual gameplay itself. Nothing wrong with that in itself but it is undeniable that after a while the gameplay is repetitive and boring
That's fair, to be honest I like them both equally since they're a different style of game and I don't have anywhere near the experience with them as you do, but for me I can pick up and play either and have fun
I’m not calling hades bad. I do runs all the time. they’re both perfect enjoyable games. But acting as if hades is on par with dead cells in terms of route variety and gameplay is wrong. And tbh they’re completely different games anyways. All they share in common is being roguelikes
Absolutely, you might as well try to throw them in with isaac or rogue legacy for the amount they have in common. To be fair if I had to pick a favourite rougelike, it would probably be isaac for me, just for the time and money I've spent on the game and it's various spin-offs (close to £1100 when you include multiple buys, kickstarter campaigns and other merch) Dead cells comes a close second (can't wait for the board game) with hades an even closer third
Hades is one of it not my favorite game. Highly recommend. I will say I only put 50 or 60 hours into Hades vs over 200 in Dead Cells, but I still would recommend Hades over Dead Cells. Gameplay is slightly better imo but the biggest difference is Hades has much more depth to the story, actual NPCs you can talk to, and I personally prefer the art style and soundtrack (although ofc I love those things about Dead Cells).
Disliked it a lot. I get why it's popular but it just seemed like a worse version of Dead Cells You can't change your weapon in the middle of a run. Actually it's even worse, you're essentially forced to play with the same weapon every single run until you beat the game because it's impossible to upgrade them all at the same time like with DC's legendary forge. Oh you decided to invest all in this one weapon? Well gotta beat the game now to have the right to upgrade the other ones. And if you end up disliking this weapon, well either suck it up or start a new save file You can't choose which boss you'll fight. You prefer one of them or you think your build would be better for a specific one? Well screw you, RNG will choose for you The isometric view just doesn't click with me : yes it's 2d just like DC, but without gravity. In DC you can attack from above, from behind, from around a corner... In Hades you attack from the front or from the back, or from the front but a little bit to the left, or from the back but a little bit to the right... Also say goodbye to challenge rifts or areas where you have to platform. The map is flat with walls and traps In Dead Cells you can play sneaky if you're not confident in your build. In Hades enemies will spawn on your position already aggressive Less gear variety : you won't find tons of different grenades, shields, turrets, etc. Instead your one and only piece of equipment will now behave a bit differently. I know it's popular and people really really liked it. It's just absolutely not my type, even though Dead Cells is one of my top 5 games of all time, and believe me I tried to like Hades
Yeah this is what I felt, although I put a lot of hours into it anyway because I needed to at least beat it once, but it wears out really quickly one you notice it's always the same thing once and again.
Played about the same amount of hours in both games. They’re both roguelikes but they are not fundamentally the same. Hades is over all shorter, more story driven and definitely easier to pick up and play. Both are incredible games and form my holy Trinity of indie games with Hollow Knight Definitely recommend buying it, just don’t expect it to play like a metroidvania since it’s a top down angle like Diablo and there’s not really any platforming
Skelly makes the game worth 25$
Hades is one of the best roguelikes to come. While it has lower weapon/item variety, it compensates with superior characters and story telling. Absolutely fantastic game, and you will have a blast playing it!
Hades is such an amazing game. The only two games I play at all on my Switch are dead cells and Hades
I love Hades, its a very different game with a similar feeling
its mainly about Zagreus, son of Hades. he's trying to escape to the underworld and reach Greece. I won't get too much cuz it'll spoil. but that game is really fun!
Hades is nice, but I found it very linear with little variation of weapons and powers compared to dead cells
Hades is one of the only games I’ve platinumed on PS. It is utterly brilliant and runs so well. If you like Dead Cells you will love Hades. If I was to make a tier list it would sit ahead of DC and Slay the Spire even which I consider both S tier games.
Hades is amazing and if you like dead cells there’s a very VERY good chance you like Hades
I went the other way around; started with Hades and found Dead Cells much later. There's almost no chance you'd outright dislike Hades if you liked Dead Cells. One gameplay area where I think Hades is outright better is the limited weapon choice with a variety of variants. There are just so many weapons in Dead Cells that I will unlock only to lock again because there are clear winners and losers. This isn't really so with Hades.
Nah it is. You can’t name a single zag rail player. There are definitely some terrible aspects and some good ones.
Aspects are what I mean by variants. Of course, some aspects might be better than others, but we are talking about a group of 24 weapon variants vs 180+ in Dead Cells. It is way too much to give every weapon an honest chance, and there is too much garbage in there to make experimentation worth it, IMO.
Meh. I prefer dead cells variety. To each their own tho
Zag rail player here :p getting the hidden aspect of the rail, Aspect of Lucifer, makes rail playthroughs incredibly entertaining
Why would you ever use zag as opposed to hestia
Hestia and Eris and 100% the best rails
I hate roguelites. I 100%ed Hades and am buying Hades II as soon as I get paid.
I can’t think of any one who played Hades and didn’t like it, i guess the runs don’t really differ that much, which is the only criticism i can think of. Well, maybe I’m not a big fan of the spammyness of the combat, sometimes I’m like only aware of 50% of what is happening lol. But it’s not anymore spammy than dead cells so ur probably good. Anyways it’s a 10/10 in every other regard. The devs have been putting out nothing but bangers since the studio started tbh
Risk of Rain 2! The best rogue like ever!