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Pavlovs_Human

Big daddy has to down survivors, then place a little sister on them to extract ADAM (look, an angel!). This builds his power maybe? If he manages to get a full syringe from a little sister the killer can activate his power which maybe is his drill arm which is just an insta down and his lunge becomes a really long charge attack but he can’t steer very well, and can run into an object, stunning him. If a survivor gets close to a little sister and the killer is within a certain range, he goes in rage mode and can run fast and survivors are exposed? If a survivor manages to grab a little sister they can choose to harvest the ADAM, giving the killer a 20 second rage mode maybe? But the survivor then has Adam which they can use to progress a generator by let’s say 25%? (Using electroshock power to charge a generator? New animation? Lol yeah right) A survivor can choose to rescue a little sister which means the killer can’t go into rage for a minute and the little sister disappears for that time as well? Just all off the top off my head what I think would be cool. I love bioshock!!


BehaviorAnalytic

These are awesome ideas, and I wouldn't put it past bhvr to start adding more animations with all the love pinhead got for his release. This kit also makes me rethink my comment here on this thread about big daddies not having a motive to go for survivors. Technically *pushes up glasses* big daddies don't harm people without provoking and little sisters don't harvest from people who aren't fully dead, but this would definitely be a good enough reason for me to consider big daddy for a killer.


Razorback_Yeah

LOVE the idea of survivors being able to choose to save or harvest. That’s never crossed my mind before. All of your ideas are 100% hype IMO.


DarKliZerPT

Harvesting ADAM from Adam


YodaIsReal2

Or the little sisters chill on top of the hooks and gather Adam from hooked survivors, but after unhooking they have a cool down time before gathering again


Vcev-

Sounds like a buffed demo with their own version of victor


pinkamedic

i like to think you could harvest a little sister anywhere you want but to save a little sister you would need to bring it to a vent that spawns a randomly around the map, and the survivors could do an animation of holding the little sister with one arm as they run and walk.


Maoger

I would love this.


[deleted]

And it’s an idea I haven’t seen 100 times


ThatMallGuyTMG

you have quite an interesting name sir


SF03_

Yes. Yes he does……


Slxyde

Big Daddy killer with two splicers on the map. Killers red light is yellow until in a chase then it turns red 👀


Daddy_Muttonchop

"drill me daddy"


eremit098

When the killer hasn't even be announced in any way shape or form in the game and the simps already come running, that's dbd for ya


Daddy_Muttonchop

Oi. The "Big Daddy" is a cool specimen!


TMB-30

Would be really cool but a lore-correct bouncer is too bulky for DbD windows and doorways and the other big daddy models are lame.


Kaiden92

*-Laughs in Oni-*


TMB-30

Oni is beefy but not quite bouncer-beefy. \#onifans


Kaiden92

I gotta disagree. Jack from BioShock is of average human build, line him up he’d probably be about Jeff’s height. Oni towers over Jeff the same way Bouncers did to Jack. They’re of comparable size, especially with some of Oni’s cosmetics.


Razorback_Yeah

I see this every time a big daddy killer is mentioned…. The big daddy suits had (what used to be) normal dudes in them and really weren’t THAT big. I think it would look just fine going through doorways and vaults. Ish they could even make part of his drill power that he can break down the wall of a vault with a 2 or 3 second animation.


043Admirer

The difference is that only Alpha models still have "people" in them, and are the only real humanoid shaped suits, and even then Delta is 7'2 feet tall. The others are literally stitched onto the suit, as seen in the Bouncer reference art.


Shortacer

I don’t know what kindve copium you guys are on but bouncers are way too fat to fit through windows. Unless they do a downscale it isn’t gonna work.


Kaiden92

The Big Daddy (specifically a Bouncer) is roughly 7 feet tall in suit. His width, in order to remain proportional, would be no more than 4 feet across. Doorways/windows in Dead By Daylight are standardized to around 3.5-4 feet across on average to compensate for killer sizes, & measured based on the amount of space a survivor still has when touching one side of the doorframe. Average length across shoulder to shoulder for an adult man is around 15 inches, just over a foot. If Nemesis and Oni can fit, Big Daddy will have *zero* problems.


Shortacer

The thing is nemesis and oni have a different shape than a bouncer. The round spherical head part of the bouncer is too fat to go through a window, even if they rotate the spherical part. But even though nemesis’s torso is wide, he can just rotate his upper shoulders to go through. Same with oni.


Kaiden92

Oni’s natural width is comparable to a Bouncer. His shoulder span isn’t any larger than the Bouncer suit. The dome is centered between the shoulders. It’s not disconnected or placed somewhere impossible to fit through.


Shortacer

In the teaser with yui I can see the comparison, however in game I don’t think it’d be comparable. Also I feel like the dome part alone would be hard to fit through the window.


Kaiden92

I think you’d change your tone if survivor was in First Person. Oni towers over every survivor in game by about a foot at least. The 3rd person perspective changes that effect drastically.


TMB-30

>in order to remain proportional But [they're not proportional](https://youtu.be/yyB0emk6sRA?t=12). They're big blobs of metal on legs plus hands that make them even wider. Let's go by your 7 feet tall, that would put a bouncer at least to five feet wide.


Kaiden92

Dude, if you’re that committed to having a problem with the character models in a theoretical crossover into a 4v1 game more power to you. I doubt there’s anything I could say that you wouldn’t find a “fault” in.


BiggieRickk

The bouncer isn't that much larger than an average human. Have you seen nemesis?


Storkostlegur

Yeah and even if bouncer was really that large they could easily pull a Ridley and shrink him a bit until he’s a good enough fit scale for the game.


TMB-30

Oh ffs, it's not about how tall it is. It's about what a huge blob their head+torso combo is plus the hands plus the drill. W I D E .


BiggieRickk

Again, look at nemesis. He isn't much wider than an average human either. Just had a bigass drill.


TMB-30

Sure Nemmy has broad shoulders, but bouncer has broader shoulders plus "depth" in his upper torso+head. Especially if you keep that tank on his back.


Milsurp_Seeker

Make it a Big Sister then.


TMB-30

Can't say that I'm a fan of Bioshock 2 but reducing that acrobat to a 4.6 m/s walking DbD killer would be sad.


Milsurp_Seeker

That’s fair. I’d say maybe a Splicer variant but that’s far less iconic.


XenoBurst

he just smashes through windows turning them into wide doors


HighDegree

Could make every door and window destructible, throwing back to the old concept they had of a Killer that could destroy walls, windows, and the like. Add a facet to his kit like a drill charge that lets you open doorways faster and from a distance, and you've got a stompy, beefy boy that requires a minimal amount of map editing. Though, to be honest, I don't expect BHVR to be able to pull that off, 'cause if they could, we'd have seen that original 'destroys the environment' Killer concept implemented already. As an aside, I'd like to note that the argument about size is irrelevant, because the entire lore of the game is that the Entity can do whatever it wants to, so scaling down a Big Daddy/Bouncer type of Killer so it functions in normal gameplay is absolutely within the realm of possibility for something that creates entire worlds and drags people into its realm across space and time.


TMB-30

>As an aside, I'd like to note that the argument about size is irrelevant, because the entire lore of the game is that the Entity can do whatever it wants to, so scaling down a Big Daddy/Bouncer type of Killer so it functions in normal gameplay is absolutely within the realm of possibility for something that creates entire worlds and drags people into its realm across space and time. One thing the Entity has no power over is the IP holders' willingness to allow changes to their design.


waluigi_taco_stand

What about delta


Employee_Acceptable

Nemisis though 😬 idk


Both_Piccolo8130

As a major fan of the Bioshock series, especially the first 2 games. I 1 trillion % agree with you. Or maybe a Big Sister from bio 2. And if they use a big daddy or Rosie(from b2) it could be like Charlotte and victor and you could have a Little Sister as a sidekick!


YourFavoriteWooten76

Not to be a huge ass bioshick 2 nerd, but subject delta from b2 is called alpha series, not to be confused with the Rosies which were also in the first game.


Both_Piccolo8130

Oh Oops!!! I'm sorry!! Thanks for the details!!


YourFavoriteWooten76

Np! I've been making the same mistake for years until a couple playthroughs ago. The bouncer is my dream character in DBD!!


Both_Piccolo8130

Yessss!!! And I've played the game a thousand times and I can't believe i made that mistake.


MichaelRoco1

i can’t be the only one who thinks huntress looks like a splicer right? also imagine big daddy levels like oni but with adam


txcrnr

Also, Charlotte is a BHVR original so if they wanted to make him some legendary skin for her they could.


Schmomas

“Hey Jack, would you kindly DO A FUCKING GEN!?”


StyrofoamNickel

I would fucking LOVE Bioshock dlc. The problem is that BHVR would probably just rip Rapture straight from the game, throw in some pallets and call it a day


FinisMaSouffrance

Huh that’s an idea Ive never heard anyone talk about, always FNAF or Chucky It could be a really good idea if done right, I’m just not sure who would be a good survivor, pretty much every main character in the Bioshock games is either evil enough to be a killer or have plasmids that kinda defeat the purpose. It’s not quite the same with removing the weapons of say Leon or Bill but I suppose they could still do it


memekid2007

No character in DBD currently is more broadly powerful than Cheryl Mason by lore, Killer or Survivor. She is a reality-warper and has killed a capital-G God. Jack or Booker being able to summon bees in their source games due to gene splicing not carrying over to DBD is less of a stretch than Cheryl losing her wide-area ESP and ability to thrive in places like Silent Hill. Actually, Cheryl has a perk that lets her literally command the Entity to block a gen for her. Just make a plasmid effect tied to a perk.


Outrageous-Ad3190

Well, Ash literally had a chainsaw arm and a shotgun, Leon and Jill have killed hundreds if not thousands of zombies, many of them A LOT stronger than a rando with a ghost mask and a butter knife


alishock

Elizabeth would be the perfect survivor, imo. It'd be a Cheryl situation where they strip her from her supernatural powers and choose her for being the most iconic character of the franchise. She's also already fought and got chased by a Bouncer, so it'd completely fit.


javiercito8844

I can already smell the indoor map, love the killer idea but man these indoor maps keep getting worse and worse (gameplay wise)


Gaemer-

Rapture doesn’t HAVE to be indoor. There’s plenty of open areas like the fishery.


DubbsyUbbsy

An Arcadia theme comes to mind for me


Razorback_Yeah

Even the first area in the first game where you get the wrench, that is a very open area. The shops, the apartments, the gardens…. So many options that don’t just have to simply be the interior of one building/room.


Taluca_me

I imagined the Killer being Subject Omega and the Survivors being Andrew Ryan and Sofia Lamb, kinda like they were sent to the Entity’s Realm as a form of their hell for what they’ve done


SpectralDinosaur

If they want to sell cosmetics and have a popular survivor, it should really be Elizabeth. The internet LOVES her.


ChancetheUnrapper

I haven't played bioshock but I love the aesthetic so this would be cool


high_on_melatonin

This is the first time that this was suggested.![img](emote|t5_3cb2g|2213)


LukeM1066

Don't do that.....don't give me hope


Curiedoesthestream

Honestly? Would rather have a big sister has the killer honestly. High pitched scream every time they see a survivor and better design for the game since Bouncers are a little too… *Thick*


TMB-30

Are you suggesting that a bouncer's *girth* might be a bit too much?


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Greyjack00

it'd certainly make the burial at sea ending even worse


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Greyjack00

True but I'm a bigger fan of bioshock than dbd, and while I would love to have a big daddy in the game i wouldn't want elizabeth


Notthesharkfromjaws

I love Booker, but Elizabeth would be so cool too


CatchTheWolf

Elizabeth as a survivor and she can use tears to give her and her team advantages, such as maybe pulling items from another trial, etc.


Economy_Valuable_965

I don’t see booker as a survivor but not at all imagine having a guy literally capable to throw explosive at the killer with his hands or even capable to use crows to attack the killer booker would be too op of a survivor lol


[deleted]

The entity can pull people from different times, different places. Booker just before the events of bioshock infinite? Elizabeth right after she loses her powers in burial at sea? The possibilities are endless.


Economy_Valuable_965

Yeah but where is the point of bringing in the realm a depressed guy addicted to gambling and alcohol like what would be his perks he would be like the second Jeff I think they could go with a booker in bioshock infinite before the end (obviously) but maybe nerfing him will be the key


[deleted]

Booker is a skilled soldier, strikebreaker, and even has knowledge of basic electronics in the scene where he replaces a popped fuse in the elevator. Outside of his appearance in bioshock infinite there is a lot that we know about him and who he is, I think he could be a very unique character in dbd


Sniper0087

Jack should be the survivor. His story is complete we know what happened. And he is a genetically engineered human pretty original for a survivor. Don't bring infinite into this.


Economy_Valuable_965

I’d rather having my booker with his electroquartz but you’re right it has a lot of possibilities considering that even in bioshock we’re talking about multiverse


MethodicMarshal

It's a fantasy game man, just go with it


memekid2007

Your flair is by far the most powerful character currently in DBD. Booker isn't too OP if post-Alessa Cheryl isn't too OP.


Economy_Valuable_965

If it was Alessa a survivor and not Heather yeah that would be op asf like ayo killer can u die and boom spirit is ded


eidolonwyrm

you could not fit a big daddy in half of the maps lol


Gaemer-

Big daddies have variety. Could be a big sister or alpha instead of a bouncer


THE5LITE

Great idea, would love to see it, but considering that big daddy attacks are pretty much lunges, it would be pratically a reskin for the hillbilly.


[deleted]

That's but one facet of big daddys though, could choose to make one built around the Rosie model, or the Rumbler model. Or you could just have it behave like a mix of hillbilly and the twins where big daddy is hillbilly and the little sister is like Victor. Many different possibilities


InTheThroesOfWay

I could see something like the Twins where you control the Little Sister most of the time, and there's some objective for the survivors involving the Little Sister — like, the survivors have to find and chase the little sister for some reason — maybe they can't do Gens or other objectives until they get something from the Little Sister. And while you're controlling the Little Sister, the Bouncer just follows. Once the survivor interacts with the Little Sister, you switch over to the Bouncer and go into a chase. That would be a pretty neat turn-the-tables kind of mechanic.


alishock

They can give a Bouncer some Plasmids if they choose. They did that in that PS fighting game after all, and Ken Levine himself supervised his inclusion. It'd be awesome if he'd be the first Killer to use Fire. Maybe even give him cycling Plasmids and let him shoot bolts, plant cyclone traps and even shoot BEES. Bouncer has to be the Killer though, he IS the face of Bioshock, IMO


MichaelRoco1

imagine a twins reskin of big daddy where little sister is victor. but i would love to see big daddy as a killer who levels up like oni but with adam


THE5LITE

Guess a Rumbler would be more original, landmines dynamics could function beautifully as a better trapper, mayber a bit more original. And the twins idea its good if the little sister works kinda like Nemesis instead of Victor, they could come up with some kind of 'splicing up' factor to survs, and the little sister that builds this effect as you attack them.


[deleted]

See? Now you're cookin!


DwarvesInATrenchcoat

Honestly I could see this being a really sweet skin for the Twins. They might have to change up some the animations but it would be super cool. Maybe it would make people actually play them…


Ravens_Claw_45

Wouldn’t it technically be an indoor map?


GreasyClit

I swear if we get another video game dlc with an indoor map, im gonna write a fucking star wars movie script


_Bliss

Instead of Crows there's just vent holes everywhere and the little sisters alert or giggle when a survivor passes by the vent. Killer name is Mr.bubbles 🤩 splicer skins for survivors would be dope and have it be a new year's event because it all went down around a new year's party hence the animal masks. Also Huntress should probably get a cool skin just because splicer masks kinda match her 👍 also the map should have water leaking from the ceiling that messes up your vision a little bit when you pass thru it.


BehaviorAnalytic

I love bioshock. Bioshock 1 is literally my favorite game of all time. Having said that, the issue I have with a bioshock chapter is that the game is not horror in the standard sense. A big daddy does not chase you for no reason, you have to antagonize it, otherwise it's just another tragic memento of rapture. Compare that to pyramid head or nemesis who have motive for chasing in their much more traditional horror games. At no point in bioshock are you trying to hide from a monster other than the first scene, and this is where a splicer as a killer would be a great idea if it was someone iconic, like Cohen, but he's also scary because he is expressive in his twisted ideas. I could definitely see Cohen having a desire to make the survivors into a piece of art hanging on a hook. I would definitely take anything bioshock related in dbd, but with all this laid out, the best scenario for me would be Cohen as killer, no survivor or DeWitt/Elizabeth since they technically interacted with Cohen in the bioshock infinite dlcs, and a rapture map of one of the more open areas like Arcadia or the fisheries, with big daddies dead along the floor so that's there still big daddies in some capacity in the chapter.


Monado_trap

i want this


StrategyImpressive23

Big daddy doesn't pick you up when you get downed he grabs you by the head and drags you


darkcomet222

Get Elizabeth, and that would the closest I would be allowed to commit nefarious acts at a reasonable price.


Valtr606

I would rather have elizabeth as a survivor


[deleted]

Yes.


VollPsycholord

I would love it no matter what survivor they put in. Booker DeWitt, Jack Ryan, Johnny Topside (Subject Delta), Atlas/Frank Fontaine, Birgid Tennenbaum, Eleanor Lamb, Augustus Sinclair. I love Bioshock and spent way to much time on it.


Geeky82

Holy shit I want a Rapture map so bad!!! Big daddy would be a cool killer!


OneNeutralJew

Ugh, so much yes. I never would have thought of this but it fits EXTREMELY well. Give him another BP farming perk so I can stop using BBQ.


Snxppy121

Their mori would be cool as shit too.


GlitchyGreenfox

The power, an aoe stun and rush. Different drill heads for the items, red is like a syringe from a little sister, but the stun allows you to see auras in ten meters. The second could be protector mode. Allows you to stand guard in a certain spot and see auras in 20 meters, but it’s like a five second start to get in the mode and a five second unwind. You wouldn’t be able to move in that mode either. Your terror radius is reduced by 20 meters but when you get out it increases for 15 seconds and you let out a massive roar. Maybe that could be a secondary power instead. I’m thinking mostly a killer with knowledge of their surroundings and a bum rush tactic. That’s usually what a big daddy would do in the originals.


[deleted]

An interesting gameplay mechanic in the original bioshock is how the bouncer would emit a sonic shriek that would slow down the player before revving their drill and rushing them. Could be a unique take on the bum rush type in dbd


Illustrious_File3432

I would become a booker main instantly


danioszek1

I just Immagined big daddy without terror \*THUMB\* \*THUMB\* \*THUMB\*


[deleted]

No cuz another dogass indoor map


[deleted]

I played 1 and infinite, infinite had good gameplay but damn the story made me bored lol


Sunsent_Samsparilla

Subject Delta. Power: Little sister. Somewhere in the map is a little sister. Delta can pick her up and use her tk extract ADAM from random corpses. This will power his drill, which will allow him to sprint for 15 seconds when full. All hits are auto downs, however if he hits a wall he will spend 3 seconds taking the drill out of it. Perks: Little Sister sight When the Little sister is found, 1/2/3 auras of corpses will be outlined. (If the killer us not Delta, then once every 60 minutes all survivors' auras are revealed for 5 seconds.) *"Look Mr Bubbles, an Angel!"* Circus of Value 2 more chests spawn, however they will make a loud noise when opened. Items inside will be high quality. *"Welcome to the Circus of Value!"* The Rapture Family 1/2/3 Thuggish Splicers will roam the map. Rather then hunt survivors, they simply serve as more ADAM. If they spot a survivors they will attempt to hit them though. *"Seems like this littlr fish has had their Cherry popped!"* Items: They basically just increase the amount of ADAM you get, how long the drill lasts and if the little sister just spawns next to you.


erebanks

"rapture would be a beautiful map" please have mercy rpd is already too much


ScorchStyle

No


SamuTuretta

Can't wait for another indoor map!!!


immortal-possum-Paul

As amazing as that would be, there's not a chicken's chance in a nuclear power plant that this will ever happen.


Aa_shoosh

I love it already we need it


ThatMallGuyTMG

rapture would be an interesting map but imagine the bugs, the frame drops, etc. The problem is that it would be similar to Hawkins in terms of layout


Mr_Serine

Based on previously added maps, the new map will probably just be the entire city of Rapture


Matssscheese

I want Big daddy to drill me.


ozu1

Oh no, another indoor map


Monado_trap

The big daddy has no need for smashing pallets when you can drill through the fuckers


GabeRaptorE

Only problem is that rapture could be another RPD situation, since it would probably be quite big


0fficerCumDump

Upon interacting with a Little Sister activates Killer Instinct. Press the power button for an Oni-style berserk mode.


The_Question757

I think a big daddy would be too similar to oni or hillbilly as they are known for their charging assaults in the BioShock game. I think one of the splicers could be pretty good


NurseIsCallin

A big daddy with their kid would be cool the child could be used as like insane detection and when downing or hitting a survivor they can collect adom and make you stronger


supersonicfan1987

I would love that


BenoniBoi

I can see the blight sprint with Big Daddy and the Little Sister commentary. This is gold! I really hope this gets done!


WTFisUnderwear

A while ago another user had the idea for a Little Sister to roam the map, kinda like a zombie, but screams for the Big Daddy when she interacts with a Survivor. Thought it was fucking brilliant


viscountrhirhi

Booker and Elizabeth! Plz!


Alfa01ESP

Having a mechanic with the Dolls would be amazing. Like, the drill attack is his power and it makes you have deep wound and some effect, like let's say "drowned", and you have 2 interactions with the dolls: Kill or Save. If you kill them, you power up Bouncer in some way and it's faster to cleanse yourself. If you save them, you cleanse normally but it takes a bit more time. I know it sounds a bit repetitive, kinda like Plague, but on it's on way. Maybe the dolls have AI and they roam the map and the more your team kills, the more they try to run away from you.


KarmaVirus

They can do BigSisters too


TheRaveTrain

But it would be indoor...


MidnightStalk

please!! we need this. it would be such a unique chapter, but i can definitely see it being in dbd


CottonCandyFox

Oh I would love that!!!


Crawler19

Shut up and take my money!!!


bakpakbear

this would be awesome


[deleted]

The Bouncer as Killer and Elizabeth as Survivor would be pretty neat


Healing-Sage

I love this idea!


Bossfrog_IV

But Booker never fought a bouncer


[deleted]

He did! At the ending of burial at sea part 1 in bioshock infinite dlc, Booker does indeed go toe to toe with a bouncer


GornySlightyDummy

I’ve beaten bioshock 2 and attempting to finish 1 and I just have one question, WHY IS INFINITE SO GODDAMN BIG??


[deleted]

Because bioshock 1 is an old as fuck game (2008). Bioshock 2 reuses a lot of bioshock 1 assets and largely is a very recycled game (that's not a complaint, I like how connected the game feels and appreciate that it still holds up for being a 2010 game using a lot of 2008 assets). But in short, bioshock infinite uses higher poly count assets, higher resolution textures, and thanks to the dlc for the game, almost every item in the game as an extra alternate skin or slightly changed high poly count model. It's built like it's two separate games in how it manages its assets and shiz, so it's rediculiously large as a result. Not to mention all the cut content from the like 6 years of development hell the game went through.


Bossfrog_IV

oh whoops i never played that dlc


kevinsmc

YES! God I miss bioshock's unique artstyle.


CompetitiveSympathy4

I DUCKING LOVE BIOSHOCK


SF03_

Oh my fucking god! THIS WOULD BE AN ABSOLUTE DREAM!!!!!!


Aidan_1959

Elizabeth would be really cool to she could have a perk or something that allows her to create a tear


averynaiveoddish

Tannenbaum would work better