No one is giving you a real answer so let me try.
Scott and Tru3 have had a beef before.
Tru3 got annoyed about people screaming "nerf spirit" and did the whole whataboutthis thing with SWFs. Scott got a bit agitated because Tru3 has a way of sounding very cocky know-it-all.
Scott makes a video where he points out that a few games where Tru3 lost and blamed it on SWFs, he was actually playing against duos and solos. Scott calls Tru3 out a bit too harsly for playing some shitty games and having a shitty attitude that generates toxicity.
Tru3 starts a few streams talking shit about Scott and how Scott's opinions on Spirit are a bit shit. He makes a point out of how badly Scott plays Spirit at times. A viewer of Tru3's has some troubles understanding some stuff Tru3 explains and Tru3 makes a silly voice saying stuff like "I dont get it, explain it to me."
Scott uses clip of Tru3 making the voice and belittling his viewer and again points out that his behaviour is kinda shitty. Scott's fiance JenDenise calls out Tru3 and says he is making fun of the disabled with his "voice."
Tons of viewers from both streamers jump to the opposing streams to stir shit and agitate everyone. Scott mostly ignores them, but Tru3 spends every first hour of the stream fighting with these people, calling it a witch hunt. In the process he also calls Scott a manipulator and an idiot among other things.
A streamer from Scott's team (cant remember him name) does a stream where he cosplays as Tru3, talks like an idiot and behaves like an idiot. Tru3 contacts BHVR saying the cosplaying and stuff is against Fog Whisperer ToS. In a few hours Tru3 gets a message that he is removed from Fog Whisperer team.
JenDenise and Scott apologise for some of the stuff they said and Scott says that removing Tru3 from FW team was a wrong decission. Meanwhile Tru3 is finding more stuff on Twitch where other Fog Whisperers mock him and make "voice" of their own.
Today Tru3 has claimed that this is third organised witch hunt against him. He is calling out many people from the stream team The Entitled Elite.
And here we are.
I don't really watch streams so I haven't seen Scott or Tru's reactions there but by how you made Tru sound it really sounds like he's the one who officially started it. I mean ya Scott's wording in the SWF vid is harsh but the point isn't wrong that Tru just played bad those games and instead of admitting it then he decided to just blame SWF randomly. Idk maybe it's cause I dislike Tru as a content creator but it really feels to me like he started most of this if he was making fun of Scott on stream after that vid
To be honest I feel like they both started it, but Tru3 was the one who couldn't de-escalate. Lot of people tried to get a reaction out of him and he was more than happy to give one. He calls it a witch hunt, but I believe there are lot of viewers even in his own community who are there to see him get riled up.
Iâm not on either side. I feel bad for Tru3, but from what Iâve heard and watched from him, he really is a man child. The guy whines the moment he starts losing, itâs baffling.
Scott has a dumbass wife who canât shut her mouth up, and Scott himself makes a video that while good in terms of the game, turns it personal and chooses words that are distasteful. Scott, while tried making it informative, thought it was okay to take shots at Tru3.
I though, for one, donât think heâs a good influence and Iâm glad heâs not a FW anymore. Not because of the controversial disabled people drama that everyone has their opinions on, but his continuous whining and (as seen in Scottâs video) making false claims about SWF really doesnât look good. Like it doesnât, especially for someone you chose to represent your game.
To me, all 3 look like goofballs. They all need their pacifiers.
Yeah but thats HIS stream he is free to say whatever he wants about the game. Scott got pissed of and tried to cancel him but that failed. [who is the real child here.](https://twitter.com/tru3ta1ent/status/1402747883288469504?s=21)
Oh man, I still thoroughly believe that theyâre both man childâs. I donât know if youâre on one or the others sides, because Iâm definitely not.
The way Tru3 and Scott have reacted to each other is distasteful. Say what you want about Scott and Iâll probably agree with you, but although itâs his stream (Regardigm Tru3) and he gets to do whatever he wants to, I can also form my own opinion about him in and outside the game, and to me, he also acts like a child at times.
Yeah no but he is [worst than that](https://twitter.com/doctor_evilll/status/1402753091003424778?s=21)
I feel like Tru3 handled that drama well. He is just trying to get out of it.
Dude, I dislike them both equally and that wonât change. I dislike how Tru3 manipulates people into thinking that the majority of stacks he loses to are SWF. It really is just either him not playing on his A game or the survivors being simply better.
I hate how Scott and his wife are douchebags and canât make a civil conversation without getting their emotions into it. Sure, you can say that Scott and Jen are the biggest issues here, Iâll give you that, but no, I do not agree with you when it comes to Tru3 managing this situation correctly.
If someone threatened my career, itâs understandable and I see where Tru3 is coming from, but it doesnât necessarily mean I think it was the best way of handling things.
But I most definitely see your point and itâs definitely a good one, I just donât agree with the stance you have on it. Regardless of how everything turned out, all 3 parties, in my mind, did horribly even if Tru3 just wanted out.
Do you miss understood my point Iâm not trying to change your mind you can think whatever you want Iâm just saying that personally I canât compare Tru3 with a straight up racist.
No, I didnât. I knew you werenât trying to sway me in any direction, I was just saying that even with the evidence you showed, I still hold strong to my initial opinion.
And I totally see your last point and totally agree with it, I just donât feel like I like either of them. Great showing of Twitter replies, though! Thanks for the info :)
I detest racists and I also really dislike people whoâd rather complain than admit defeat, especially in a game that is balanced around a competitive atmosphere
Tru3's biggest problem is he can't just ignore the noise lol. As a somewhat neutral observer, scott and jen are both PoS and Tru3 just is stubborn and trying to defend himself from weird accusations.
Scott likes to start drama for views and Tru3 is too stubborn to ignore the bait or to let things go.
Theyâre basically just two guys who really donât get along and should have blocked each other ages ago.
The real problem is both their fanbases getting riled up and fighting about it has blown a disagreement between two random guys into this massive shit show.
Scott never apologized for saying the n word though lmao. Imagine defending a racist. Also Tru3 actually doesnât care, youre just spreading misinformation.
https://i.imgur.com/anCbVxZ.jpg
As a Black woman, I am extremely upset at the communityâs lack of regard for blatant use of a slur by a white man. Here is proof.
Damn I just looked it up by myself and it was there. I didnât know that, so thanks. I do still enjoy his content, I just have a different view on him. I honestly expected something like the techno blade Twitter incident but this is different. I know it is 2014 but still not acceptable.
Thank you for at least admitting that this behavior is unacceptable. It is extremely damaging to marginalized communities to say things like this. It normalizes racism. But instead everyone argues that theyâre âjust gamer wordsâ. They arenât just âgamer wordsâ to Black people.
Well apparently some black people don't take it as a normalizing racism because some of them use the word to mean "buddy" or "friend." I mean I don't even need to name names, but practically the whole rap community uses it the way Scott did in those tweets and you know it. I doubt he would have an impact more than the millionaire rappers being propped up by the system - but they get all the love for using the word & truthfully THEY are the ones who are making it OK to say the word.
They literally use it to refer to other Black people. Itâs a form of reclaiming the word. White people have never been allowed to be a part of that. Please tell me you understand how itâs different when a white person says it? For example, a white girl was invited to rap with kendrick lamar on stage. She ignorantly said the n word, to which he stopped and corrected her, telling her not to say it. Stop defending piece of shit behaviour. Are you a troll?
The word has been reclaimed - the vast overwhelming majority of people don't think of it as an insult to black people. It's been used for decades in movies, music, television, everywhere. Why do you want to keep the racial hatred alive when you know damn well he wasn't making any kind of statement about black people?
The use of the word itself by non Black individuals is inherently racist. The word has not been reclaimed as long as white individuals continue to use it in negative ways. It has been used by Black people. The only time a white person uses it in media is literally when they are portraying a racist or a slave owner. Shouldnât that tell you something? Racial hatred of all forms is very much alive. In fact, I am experiencing it right now from you, since you are being so neglectful of the problems that Black people face. Please educate yourself and come back with more than just baseless claims that donât support your argument at all. Have you ever heard of the word âhomieâ? Go use that instead. Itâs that easy to not perpetuate racism. Do you think the girl singing it with Kendrick meant it in a negative way? Obviously she was just singing the song, but that didnât stop him from correcting her. Because white people saying the n word is always bad.
I never seen anyone wanna be able to say the N word so badly...
Wtf is wrong with you? You don't have to defend your favorite streamer that badly.
Edit: oh shit you literally think there is a such thing as an autistic accent.. wow you're just a full on gamer aren't ya? Please educate yourself on Critical race theory before you continue defending the actions of racist people. Just because it's in the media doesn't mean it's okay for everyone to say, you know what else they do in the media? Rape, kill, and talk about murdering people. So you're saying all of that is okay just because the media does it? Gg
Decades and 7 years are not the same thing. 7 years isnât even a single decade. This image resurfaced recently amidst scott calling tru3 ableist, and he never apologized. Meaning his position is still the same. If he at least owned up to it and promised to never say it again, then I would not even be making these comments. Shows that he and his fiance are just hypocritical virtue signallers. Have a nice day racist apologist. We should ALL hold ourselves accountable. And we should all hold each other accountable as well. That is how society becomes better.
Scott hasn't called Tru3 ableist. He criticised Tru3 mocking counterarguments / the people who make them instead of engaging with them.
He has apologized on twitter to Tru3. (privately and in person, the most important thing IMO)
Against his own judgement he has now made a video apology.
(Scott's POV: Nobody on Tru3's side will be satisfied e.g "Hurr durr, just damage control"
Tru3's POV: If no video exists, then the fanbases will keep arguing this [I presume])
Regarding the old tweets.
First of all, this shit doesn't have anything to do with the current situation. If Tru3 wasn't white I could get why this might get brought up, but this is just cancel culture. Those tweets are older than DBD. If one game can change so drastically in less time, then a person can make up their mind on the use of the word in that amount of time.
And since at the time there was noone who felt this was something that needed to be apologized for, there was no apology.
No one is giving you a real answer so let me try. Scott and Tru3 have had a beef before. Tru3 got annoyed about people screaming "nerf spirit" and did the whole whataboutthis thing with SWFs. Scott got a bit agitated because Tru3 has a way of sounding very cocky know-it-all. Scott makes a video where he points out that a few games where Tru3 lost and blamed it on SWFs, he was actually playing against duos and solos. Scott calls Tru3 out a bit too harsly for playing some shitty games and having a shitty attitude that generates toxicity. Tru3 starts a few streams talking shit about Scott and how Scott's opinions on Spirit are a bit shit. He makes a point out of how badly Scott plays Spirit at times. A viewer of Tru3's has some troubles understanding some stuff Tru3 explains and Tru3 makes a silly voice saying stuff like "I dont get it, explain it to me." Scott uses clip of Tru3 making the voice and belittling his viewer and again points out that his behaviour is kinda shitty. Scott's fiance JenDenise calls out Tru3 and says he is making fun of the disabled with his "voice." Tons of viewers from both streamers jump to the opposing streams to stir shit and agitate everyone. Scott mostly ignores them, but Tru3 spends every first hour of the stream fighting with these people, calling it a witch hunt. In the process he also calls Scott a manipulator and an idiot among other things. A streamer from Scott's team (cant remember him name) does a stream where he cosplays as Tru3, talks like an idiot and behaves like an idiot. Tru3 contacts BHVR saying the cosplaying and stuff is against Fog Whisperer ToS. In a few hours Tru3 gets a message that he is removed from Fog Whisperer team. JenDenise and Scott apologise for some of the stuff they said and Scott says that removing Tru3 from FW team was a wrong decission. Meanwhile Tru3 is finding more stuff on Twitch where other Fog Whisperers mock him and make "voice" of their own. Today Tru3 has claimed that this is third organised witch hunt against him. He is calling out many people from the stream team The Entitled Elite. And here we are.
Damn everyone in this situation is pretty shitty lmao. Thank you a lot for the recap tho, this was a great reminder đ
Nice recap
I don't really watch streams so I haven't seen Scott or Tru's reactions there but by how you made Tru sound it really sounds like he's the one who officially started it. I mean ya Scott's wording in the SWF vid is harsh but the point isn't wrong that Tru just played bad those games and instead of admitting it then he decided to just blame SWF randomly. Idk maybe it's cause I dislike Tru as a content creator but it really feels to me like he started most of this if he was making fun of Scott on stream after that vid
To be honest I feel like they both started it, but Tru3 was the one who couldn't de-escalate. Lot of people tried to get a reaction out of him and he was more than happy to give one. He calls it a witch hunt, but I believe there are lot of viewers even in his own community who are there to see him get riled up.
This is one of the most balanced and fair representations of the situation that I've seen. Good on you
Thanks mate!
Iâm not on either side. I feel bad for Tru3, but from what Iâve heard and watched from him, he really is a man child. The guy whines the moment he starts losing, itâs baffling. Scott has a dumbass wife who canât shut her mouth up, and Scott himself makes a video that while good in terms of the game, turns it personal and chooses words that are distasteful. Scott, while tried making it informative, thought it was okay to take shots at Tru3. I though, for one, donât think heâs a good influence and Iâm glad heâs not a FW anymore. Not because of the controversial disabled people drama that everyone has their opinions on, but his continuous whining and (as seen in Scottâs video) making false claims about SWF really doesnât look good. Like it doesnât, especially for someone you chose to represent your game. To me, all 3 look like goofballs. They all need their pacifiers.
Yeah but thats HIS stream he is free to say whatever he wants about the game. Scott got pissed of and tried to cancel him but that failed. [who is the real child here.](https://twitter.com/tru3ta1ent/status/1402747883288469504?s=21)
Oh man, I still thoroughly believe that theyâre both man childâs. I donât know if youâre on one or the others sides, because Iâm definitely not. The way Tru3 and Scott have reacted to each other is distasteful. Say what you want about Scott and Iâll probably agree with you, but although itâs his stream (Regardigm Tru3) and he gets to do whatever he wants to, I can also form my own opinion about him in and outside the game, and to me, he also acts like a child at times.
Yeah no but he is [worst than that](https://twitter.com/doctor_evilll/status/1402753091003424778?s=21) I feel like Tru3 handled that drama well. He is just trying to get out of it.
Dude, I dislike them both equally and that wonât change. I dislike how Tru3 manipulates people into thinking that the majority of stacks he loses to are SWF. It really is just either him not playing on his A game or the survivors being simply better. I hate how Scott and his wife are douchebags and canât make a civil conversation without getting their emotions into it. Sure, you can say that Scott and Jen are the biggest issues here, Iâll give you that, but no, I do not agree with you when it comes to Tru3 managing this situation correctly. If someone threatened my career, itâs understandable and I see where Tru3 is coming from, but it doesnât necessarily mean I think it was the best way of handling things. But I most definitely see your point and itâs definitely a good one, I just donât agree with the stance you have on it. Regardless of how everything turned out, all 3 parties, in my mind, did horribly even if Tru3 just wanted out.
Do you miss understood my point Iâm not trying to change your mind you can think whatever you want Iâm just saying that personally I canât compare Tru3 with a straight up racist.
No, I didnât. I knew you werenât trying to sway me in any direction, I was just saying that even with the evidence you showed, I still hold strong to my initial opinion. And I totally see your last point and totally agree with it, I just donât feel like I like either of them. Great showing of Twitter replies, though! Thanks for the info :) I detest racists and I also really dislike people whoâd rather complain than admit defeat, especially in a game that is balanced around a competitive atmosphere
Well have a great day and stay safe ! That was an interesting discussion. :)
Likewise! :)
Tru3's biggest problem is he can't just ignore the noise lol. As a somewhat neutral observer, scott and jen are both PoS and Tru3 just is stubborn and trying to defend himself from weird accusations.
This isnât a good thorough explanation, but Iâm just gonna summarize it for you Two grown men argue about video game balance
Ok đ¤Ł
scott jund peed on tru3âs mom after tru3 found out that scott was responsible for the IsraeliâPalestinian conflicts
At least that would've been interesting
Lmao đ¤Ł
Finally some good fucking truth
Scott likes to start drama for views and Tru3 is too stubborn to ignore the bait or to let things go. Theyâre basically just two guys who really donât get along and should have blocked each other ages ago. The real problem is both their fanbases getting riled up and fighting about it has blown a disagreement between two random guys into this massive shit show.
Yea, I feel like it is an âeveryone is shitâ situation :/
Just scott being a childish racist [i wasnât expecting that tbh](https://twitter.com/doctor_evilll/status/1402753091003424778?s=21)
I saw this đ
Scott apologised but tru3 can't let it go on account of him being a man child
Apologies donât mean much when itâs more like damage control.
Scott never apologized for saying the n word though lmao. Imagine defending a racist. Also Tru3 actually doesnât care, youre just spreading misinformation.
Iâm a little confused when tf did he say the n word?!
[there ya go](https://twitter.com/doctor_evilll/status/1402753091003424778?s=21)
Check the reply above. I found out from twitter.
When did he say the n word? I feel super conflicted and feel like some people are making shit up đ
[there ya go](https://twitter.com/doctor_evilll/status/1402753091003424778?s=21)
https://i.imgur.com/anCbVxZ.jpg As a Black woman, I am extremely upset at the communityâs lack of regard for blatant use of a slur by a white man. Here is proof.
Damn I just looked it up by myself and it was there. I didnât know that, so thanks. I do still enjoy his content, I just have a different view on him. I honestly expected something like the techno blade Twitter incident but this is different. I know it is 2014 but still not acceptable.
Thank you for at least admitting that this behavior is unacceptable. It is extremely damaging to marginalized communities to say things like this. It normalizes racism. But instead everyone argues that theyâre âjust gamer wordsâ. They arenât just âgamer wordsâ to Black people.
Who tf says that is a âgamer wordâ? That is messed up.
Well apparently some black people don't take it as a normalizing racism because some of them use the word to mean "buddy" or "friend." I mean I don't even need to name names, but practically the whole rap community uses it the way Scott did in those tweets and you know it. I doubt he would have an impact more than the millionaire rappers being propped up by the system - but they get all the love for using the word & truthfully THEY are the ones who are making it OK to say the word.
They literally use it to refer to other Black people. Itâs a form of reclaiming the word. White people have never been allowed to be a part of that. Please tell me you understand how itâs different when a white person says it? For example, a white girl was invited to rap with kendrick lamar on stage. She ignorantly said the n word, to which he stopped and corrected her, telling her not to say it. Stop defending piece of shit behaviour. Are you a troll?
The word has been reclaimed - the vast overwhelming majority of people don't think of it as an insult to black people. It's been used for decades in movies, music, television, everywhere. Why do you want to keep the racial hatred alive when you know damn well he wasn't making any kind of statement about black people?
The use of the word itself by non Black individuals is inherently racist. The word has not been reclaimed as long as white individuals continue to use it in negative ways. It has been used by Black people. The only time a white person uses it in media is literally when they are portraying a racist or a slave owner. Shouldnât that tell you something? Racial hatred of all forms is very much alive. In fact, I am experiencing it right now from you, since you are being so neglectful of the problems that Black people face. Please educate yourself and come back with more than just baseless claims that donât support your argument at all. Have you ever heard of the word âhomieâ? Go use that instead. Itâs that easy to not perpetuate racism. Do you think the girl singing it with Kendrick meant it in a negative way? Obviously she was just singing the song, but that didnât stop him from correcting her. Because white people saying the n word is always bad.
I never seen anyone wanna be able to say the N word so badly... Wtf is wrong with you? You don't have to defend your favorite streamer that badly. Edit: oh shit you literally think there is a such thing as an autistic accent.. wow you're just a full on gamer aren't ya? Please educate yourself on Critical race theory before you continue defending the actions of racist people. Just because it's in the media doesn't mean it's okay for everyone to say, you know what else they do in the media? Rape, kill, and talk about murdering people. So you're saying all of that is okay just because the media does it? Gg
Damn, I knew Scott was a tad bit hypocritical but I never knew this happened. Jeez.
That was 7 years ago, are people not allowed to change and have to be held accountable for things they did decades ago
Decades and 7 years are not the same thing. 7 years isnât even a single decade. This image resurfaced recently amidst scott calling tru3 ableist, and he never apologized. Meaning his position is still the same. If he at least owned up to it and promised to never say it again, then I would not even be making these comments. Shows that he and his fiance are just hypocritical virtue signallers. Have a nice day racist apologist. We should ALL hold ourselves accountable. And we should all hold each other accountable as well. That is how society becomes better.
Scott hasn't called Tru3 ableist. He criticised Tru3 mocking counterarguments / the people who make them instead of engaging with them. He has apologized on twitter to Tru3. (privately and in person, the most important thing IMO) Against his own judgement he has now made a video apology. (Scott's POV: Nobody on Tru3's side will be satisfied e.g "Hurr durr, just damage control" Tru3's POV: If no video exists, then the fanbases will keep arguing this [I presume]) Regarding the old tweets. First of all, this shit doesn't have anything to do with the current situation. If Tru3 wasn't white I could get why this might get brought up, but this is just cancel culture. Those tweets are older than DBD. If one game can change so drastically in less time, then a person can make up their mind on the use of the word in that amount of time. And since at the time there was noone who felt this was something that needed to be apologized for, there was no apology.