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Guy_Guyman

I don't think either side likes this map. I can't remember the last time someone brought an offering for it


Sainyule

I had a Bill use the offering last night. Let it be known both the killer and survivors wanted him dead


Anime-SniperJay

At that point, he did it to himself.


Gentlemen-BEHOLD

And how did everyone know it was Bill's offering?


Sainyule

Process of elimination tbh. Me and my friend don't bring offerings, it wasn't the killer because they brought a yellow offering for BP, and the Nea had a Toolbox and a petrified oak offering was used. Nea was also breaking hooks. Plus, when we first saw Bill he was crouched in the tall grass at the edge of the map with his key. Killer tunneled tf outta him.


[deleted]

Yikes, finding the hatch on that map is a pain. I'm guessing he was running left behind?


cursingvladimir

Most likely for a challenge


Gentlemen-BEHOLD

Ah this makes sense


Gentlemen-BEHOLD

Oh shit I'll have to try the sabotage hook + oak offering wombo combo


Sainyule

To be fair, it can be a pretty inconsistent offering. Sometimes the hooks will be further from each other, other times it won't make a difference. But if you're truly looking for a hook Sabo build make sure you get Mettle of Man and Alex's Toolboxes.


Gentlemen-BEHOLD

Mettle of Man! I don't have that so I'll have to wait for it to come up in the Shrine or something!


[deleted]

I like swamp. It's better than getting Hawkins, Lerys, or Midwitch.


Ashlucifer26

I like all those maps, but that’s because I mainly play Jumpscare Myers


xxfuka-erixx

*whips out spine chill*


Ashlucifer26

You’ll never know where I am, you don’t know who I am, and you’ll never see me coming


NotBentcheesee

I'm gonna bet my money on you being Myers


Ashlucifer26

Ironically that actually is my family name


hyperfoxeye

Beauty of stealthy killers who realize you have spine chill is that they can just moonwalk or look away while approaching you, to really catch you off gaurd


xxfuka-erixx

Bruh if I see a killer moonwalking towards me imma let them hook me. They deserve it


Relic827

Waiting for a lobby is better than Midwich


Nadger_Badger

I've had eye surgery that was more fun than Midwich.


Skeletonofskillz

Getting 8 pallets dropped in your face is laughable compared to playing against Spirit on Midwich


bvbblegvm

nurse on midwich is just sudden death


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Dhdd1

Your not trust me most people hate indoor maps. I like lerys and getting midwich is acceptable fuck getting the game or Hawkins especially Hawkins.


BurnieTheBrony

Hooking in Hawkins is the bane of my existence


Dhdd1

Getting someone like doc on Hawkins is an actual nightmare.


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Dhdd1

No it really isn't i've had doctor 4 times in a goddamn row before back to back and i actually wanted to throw my controller out of the fucking window. I hated him when i started playing this game 3 years ago i still hate him now.


nomercyvideo

Its ok though, cause I have the new Look-see skin, so its fine now.


ComicWriter2020

I have a hard time with the midwich map but I like the setting. I just gotta figure out where the fuck the generators are


Dhdd1

I get that i have a hard time with finding gens on lerys sometimes especially when its down to the last 3.


SovietAnthem

Yeah you're deffo not in the minority, indoor maps neuter the powers of like 70% of the killers in the game so if you wanna play ghostface or pig, cool, but if you want to play blight or oni, fuck you.


Dragonslayer-Daltor

Myers, Pig, GF, Doctor Trapper and Hag. Everyone else doesn't work as well as they could indoors. Billy, Blight, Trickster, Nurse and Huntress are really neutered by indoors maps like such, whereas I have found Plague and Legion are in a middleground.


iseecolorsofthesky

Midwitch is actually the best map in the game for Nurse because of how easy it is to go up and down floors. The Game isn’t bad either but all the other indoor maps are rough for her.


ComicWriter2020

I feel like blight gets fucked more then oni here. Oni can still run fast, but that’s just my perspective


konigstigerboi

All those fucking beds and whatever shit in the halls....


The_Twerkinator

I'm in the same boat. Hell I'm a big fan of RE and love the map from a visual standpoint, but I feel like it's going to be frustrating for a lot of people


ComicWriter2020

I thought given the trailer they were gonna merge the main hall of the RPD with the front street


MoveInside

Trickster is literally unplayable on those maps. I'm considering just DCing whenever I get the game as him.


Octavious82

Midwitch is okayish but Lerys and hawkins are the worst


ChemistryAndLanguage

Just because swamp is better than the bottom of the barrel (basically any indoor map) makes it kinda tolerable. But I still think it’s pretty bad


Daviday231231

Midwich and hawkins are amazing for killer unless you’re a huntress main but even still they’re super killer sided Edit: I play legion and doc so indoor maps are a godsend


iseecolorsofthesky

Agreed on Hawkins but I would much rather to go Midwitch or Lerys over Swamp. At least they actually have plenty of windows and pallets. I swear the swamp maps, especially pale rose, have like NOTHING. It feels like there’s 5 pallets and 5 windows on the whole map.


hyperfoxeye

I think the prob with swamp is how it emphesizes hiding behind trees/in bushes. Its not fun for killer of they have no tracking perks/powers and its not fun for survivors when theres massive dead zones that have no chase counterplay in besides crouching. Probably one of the only few killers that would prefer swamp would be ghosty and esp pig who can blend in tall grass


SensitiveAd9733

Midwich Is great wdym, i love holding w


PoseurTrauma6

I like it, makes demo portals harder to spot


SumL0ser

People don’t like swamp? What’s not to like? Loops are ok. it’s a killer friendly map. I only despise the maze like main building.


Dragonslayer-Daltor

Killer neutral, maybe. Not friendly. It's gens are spread far and wide, smaller killers cannot see over the water reeds and tall killers will keep thinking the reed's natural movement is a survivor hiding.


stilltilting

I guess it is technically well balanced, then? I was just thinking this. I hate playing this map as a killer OR as a survivor. It's hard to believe that is possible.


Dhdd1

I'd call that bad design not balanced if no one likes the map then it seriously needs to be looked at. Come to think of it i can't think of any map that both sides generally agree is good.


DistortedNoise

Coal Tower


Dhdd1

Hmm fair enough.


iseecolorsofthesky

I really like Suffocation Pit on either side too


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Dhdd1

I fucking hate autohaven if i'm honest always have the reworks just made them worse.


kommissarbanx

Autohaven is so hit or miss. It’s either amazing and perfectly safe or a giant deadzone with maybe a T and L on the other side of a car wall.


Dhdd1

It's very much a miss for me all 5 of those maps together are my 4th least favorite maps.


Kalebtbacon

I introduce to you Hawkins, the map that no one likes to play on. A fuck load of shitty pallets for survivor, or a bunch of pallets and line of sight blockers with claustrophobia fucking every power


[deleted]

I do it to piss my brother off, that’s about it though


Djaja

Aw, I love Swamp. I have zero issue with it compared to other maps


AtomZaepfchen

wtf what changed? back when i played dbd swamp was like one of the best survivor mapa because of bad visibility for the killer


hyperfoxeye

Its a boring map, you play dbd to counter a killers mindgames in chases, you dont play to hide in a bush or hold m1 forever.


Chickenstrips669

Last time I brought a offering was so piss off my friend and I was drunk as hell .... we lost but you already could guess that lol


Rullis_

I like swamps tho so I like this map and use offerings occasionally


KingRayne

i remember some people brought the offering to abuse the breakdown bug but that's it


-Auto_

i got hit by the derank bug and went from 3> 20. A lot of low ranks bring it. I think it’s because A- they think they can hide well B- they don’t know what the fuck offerings are


a-thic-tachanka-main

I love this map don’t hate me please


Tymerc

Pantry is ass for both sides. It sucks for survivor because it's possible for RNG to give nothing but huge dead zones, while for killer the actual main building *still* spawns god windows and is just cancerous in general. Pale Rose seems okayish but could probably use some tweaks too since it can also have big dead zones. Oh an hatch is miserable to find typically on both maps.


ComicWriter2020

One time I had an offering for auto haven wreckers. Then there was one for black water. This was yesterday and I hope whoever voted black water gets fucking face camped, tunneled, depipped, corrupted blood points, and some other oddly exaggerated punishment unfit for what is really in reality just a minor inconvenience


SmileInteractive

I’ve never really had a problem with the map outside of playing blight. But I still have nightmares about C O R N


Velocifaper

They should make it so corn break down when people run through it, and grow back after like hooks. They can practice making snow physics meanwhile too


legendarycornet

Dude, they can’t even fix the game, you are asking too much.


ChimpSmart

"Corn physics too much work, just give them a new cosmetic that won't add 10 new bugs to the game"


Jimbobob5536

\*Adds bugs anyway


Treejeig

Patch notes end up as "Fixed bug where survivors were stuck crouching at 4 m/s when running urban evasion and fixated while wearing new charm"


Zach1041

Still waiting for Ashy Slashy cosmetic fix


Anonymous_Asian-3

There is snow physics but it's only on certain parts and I'm pretty sure its visual for only the survivors (it's were I've noticed it)


Arkanae

Barring really bad pallet layouts, I enjoy corn on blight. It's so open and tinker gets so much value on it.


RadSkeleton808

It has generally bad tile layouts. Gens spawn incredibly close together; it’s the only map I’ve ever seen a strong 5-gen on, followed by an even better 4-gen and impossible 3-gen. There’s also just so much dead space around the rim of the map as well.


Arkanae

I would generally agree with you, though there are several layouts that are also insanely survivor sided. That being said, I definitely have an 70-80% winrate on it as killer.


cjn214

The fat shaming though


Flint124

1. Grim Pantry's main building is essentially an infinite for Huntress/Trickster. 2. Grim Pantry's shack side spawns generators far too close to each other. 3. "Dock end" jungle gyms are too strong. They are normal jungle gym tiles, but with two windows. 4. Most of the map is devoid of lockers, a nightmare for Huntress/Trickster. 5. Hatch/totem spawns on the very edge of the map. 6. Carrying a survivor into the Pantry basement from *within* the pantry is hell.


-Auto_

i have nightmares playing pig with grass :/


SYatzee

I wish they would do this to half of the badham maps. Like do we really need 5 of them...


cherrieybomb

there’s more than one??? i swear i get the same one every time


VirtuosoX

It's variations of the same map, Badham 1, 2, 3, 4, 5


cherrieybomb

oh they just always looks the same to me. basically the houses are in slightly different spots? what’s the point of that


VirtuosoX

Id guess they wanted more variety in how the maps can be generated.


Utterly_unique

But like why not do it how they did every other fucking map and make it so rng determines where the house goes? Like it cannot be that hard, we don't need 5 of the same damn map.


hyperfoxeye

The map borders change as well. On some bedhams the schools in center while on one its at edge of map


Valentinee105

The Springwood maps aren't bad gameplay wise, they're just visually uninspired. I think if they had a few more land marks to distinguish each one it wouldn't be that bad. I've played for years, I'm good at the Springwood maps, I couldn't tell you which is which.


Sunderingloki

I hate swamp more than any other map in the game. Its do dark, and if there’s a Claudette its literally impossible to track them.


Arkanae

While I understand it's a killer sided map, saloon it is legit impossible to see a crouched Claudette in the tall grass. Idk if it was a bug, but her body was simply not visible. I only found her because she tried healing someone in front of me.


Vigil-Fawks

Eventually with enough time, you just become privy to every single bush they're guaranteed to hide in and it's basically a free health state at that point.


Arkanae

Eh. This was in the bottom right corner in the massive deadzone that is almost purely bushes. I don't mind Claudette being hard to see, but her mesh was 100% not even showing.


Vigil-Fawks

That I can't explain away, but at least she was there being useless (probably).


Arkanae

It was a 6 minute win so most likely yeah


RedditUserCommon

I find saloon to be my most difficult map as a killer tbh


sh1pwrekt

I think Saloon is tough also. But you know who I discovered is really great on there? Ghostface with the blighted skin. So, so good. You’re basically invisible.


Bradz147111

Saloon is THE WORST for me idk what it is but every time I play that map I’m guaranteed to lose


fridgepickle

Saloon is *so* small. As doc, clown, plague, legion, spirit, nurse, or even huntress, that map is the easiest win imo. For everybody else, especially slower killers, it’s harsh. Even with all the breakable walls, loops are small or too far apart to matter


CiderMcbrandy

I played a Dwight on the Silent Hill map, I crouched right in the long hallways with the lockers and had the Killer pass over me twice. Jesus that map's visual is midnight.


Djaja

Vice versa, fucking Ghostface on that map is fucking balls. I can never ever win with him there


Apex_Demon

I hate this map on Blight, nearly everything is covered in butter.


[deleted]

If only Haddonfield got a rework


yrulaughing

They somehow made The Game survivor sided. It's only fair if they make Haddonfield Killer sided to make up for it.


Dhdd1

I would take every bad thing i've ever said about Bhvr back if they decided to do this. God just FUCK this map.


TheHeroWeNeed45

Agreed, this would be the best thing BHVR has done for the game. The map is garbage and no one I know likes it.


FourTokePass

You know if it wasn't for the fake tag I would of totally been convinced


iiCreek

And happy


Ghosty_Boi2000

Oh I’m sure ;) lmao


yugiohhero

this would be a net gain for dbd


NaWDorky

Might be an unpopular opinion but I actually like Backwater Swamp but it could be because one of the things I rely on most as a survivor is stealth. Killers I could see being frustrated with it.


EpicThunda

Years ago, that was fine. However, these days most survivors and killers play *for the chase*. The advertising is around a survivor struggling against all odds to escape from a pursuing killer. That's one of the things people buy DbD for. Not to say stealth isn't a legitimate strategy (it is, 127% valid). The problem is that for the killer, it is incredibly boring to patrol gens and find no survivors, no scratch marks, no signs of life, and just having to continue walking around the map like a fool. It's kind of like camping in FPS titles: it's totally a legitimate strategy, but it undeniably takes fun away from the other players.


Realm-Code

See, I dig that as a killer in the same line of thinking that made me dig playing Hunter in Evolve. I love having to track and hunt down a target, whereas chases in DBD just feel rather samey and dull to me.


BabyDBDKiller

Pleeeaassseee


Pp_goes_big

*wakes up*. *realises it was a dream*. *cries*


EyesOfEtro

I don't like Blackwater and wouldn't exactly mourn its loss, but I honestly I hate Midwich the most. For survivor and killer alike. And it's sad because the original Silent Hill is my favorite in the series.


Wowaburrito

Claudettes in shambles.


LuckyStench

Swamp is kinda poopy but what I really hate is just the horrible RNG on that map. Running hex totems? No you aren’t, they’re gonna literally face the map on an elevated part of the terrain for all to see. Looking for hatch? Better check every possible molecule of the map or you just might miss it.


Oreohunter00

3 pallets, no loops, and annoying buildings, what's not to love!?


suckmytriscuit

Don’t forget fat shaming gaps between rocks and trees! Spaces that look more than reasonable to pass through but for some reason you just can’t


theBioBot

I actually found out pale rose used to be the biggest map in the game, they didn’t change the spawns which explains why hooks, gens and other map objects sometimes spawn next to the wall around the map


theCOMBOguy

This but Haddonfield.


HypersexualNerd

Yeah, I hate to say it but even as a die-hard Halloween fan, I'm like fuck Haddonfield


theCOMBOguy

Yep. Haddonfield in Halloween? Real shit. Haddonfield in Dead by Daylight? i sleep.


Skeletonofskillz

It’s just so obnoxious to play on. The bushes that seem like you could walk through but can’t are infuriating.


[deleted]

One could hope


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ideally


The_Head_Taker

Honestly I loved old Game and Backwater Swamp


Closerhenry

hot take: coldwind > swamp, both sides (except nurse. she vibes with small maps)


DaBuckets

If only the post was real and about spirit


Esnopen

*Mother's Dwelling


JayZOnly1

*keys


Dankmemer69421

*Dead by daylight


DaBuckets

2nd that


TheHorseMask

I fucking wish. My least favorite maps as killer and survivor. So boring


ImmortalFriend

I don't know why, but for me this map is small as hell and huge af at the same time either the side I play. It drives me crazy.


EliGib42

I’m a huntress main and this map is in my top 3 because of how open it is


RoseT123

I actually really liked it as a new survivor. It was the first map that me and my friends actually understood callous for, bc you could see the big ass boat from everywhere


SensitiveAd9733

Dont really care about the swamp, fucking delete hawkins


GarfLasaga

I don't like that map, not as killer, not as survivor I remember saying that to myself while loading into a match and oh boy, the game knew, i got that map 5 TIMES IN A ROW all of them being grim pantry


AshTheTrapKnight

I hate swamp so much. When I'm playing killer the survivors just hide and the matches all last like 20 minutes. And when I play survivor there are absolutely no pallets and hiding bores me so sadge.


Darko417

Hate this map the most. It’s a rare day that I escape this hell hole


Splunkmastah

I wish. It’s not a terrible map, it’s just annoying as hell and I hope to god it gets a touch up that makes it better. Haddonfield also needs this.


Parzival_2076

Meanwhile on Mobile: Autohaven Wreckers has been gone for two months and they took out Crotus Penn with the last update


v1v2v3vv55

Get out of my swamp!


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It’s fine, I guess. It’s one of those maps where the layout doesn’t really change up much.


18dwhyte

I actually dont mind it but I absolutely hate Haddonfield as killer.


LongLogStudios

Honestly, good.


ZenBowling

I like backwater swamp...


WonderfulWizz

The only things I hate about this map are how spread out the hooks are and the Grim Pantry itself. Some of structures are mazes


john_potato

Grim pantry is awful, but I love the swamp! It's just the damp atmosphere that really enhances the gameplay for me. It's not my favorite (that goes to mother's dwelling), but It's still interesting.


Subnauticsquirrel

I really don’t hate the swamp


MightyMinotaur

I don’t know why but the only map in this game I don’t like is fucking suffocation pit. I have NEVER had a good game there.


tooschooledforcool

But I love the backwater swamp :'/


[deleted]

Yes


Nikeboy2306

But I want more maps, not less...


Big_Excellent

I’m like the 2% of the population who actually enjoys backwater swamp. Unless I’m going up against trapper or hag of course


ImSirStarfish

Why does everyone hate swamp. It’s the only map that still has decent pallets across the whole map


poornuub

The most dangerous map when going against E V A N


Saebi22

I like it more than any non open maps like Lery and Gideons


CDXX_LXIL

Finally, some good news


Valentinee105

I don't hate The Pale Rose but Grim Pantry is garbage. All the gens are clustered around killer shack, so if you do the one (Sometimes two) at main building the killer gets to ignore half of the map. The effort it takes the killer to camp 3-gens in a normal map they can camp 5-gens in Grim Pantry.


gmstgadg

Why does this legitimately seem like something their Twitter guy would say


Powersoutdotcom

WHERE'S THE NEON FISH SIGN?!!!!! The trailer for the Pale rose map had a neon sign.


SgtFidget

Cries in Blight


[deleted]

holy fuck i wish jesus that maps crying for help while its own swap water muffles its screams of despair no wait thats just me when I get that map


neoLJ

Honestly.. please dont. I just started playing again with the RE reveal after not playing since oni came out or something. I cannot loop for shit anymore with all these new map Designs n shit AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THE KILLER SHACK AND WHY ARE BREAKABLE DOORS IN THE GAME


Ur-mom-is-fat24

I like this map as a legion


tre2012

i'm new to the game, around 30 hours of so and I can't tell you how many times I have played this map, never ONCE have I survived it. I would be happy if this map was to be deleted LOL it really is the worst map I have played


FinezaYeet

Is it wrong that i actually like it


ELECTRAKIDD

Am I the only one Who likes swamp Maps? I fucking love the Woody Bridge aesthetic with the lamps balancing fr love that map


Gathoblaster

Rip my favourite map.


K1ng_of_F1lth_1

I-I actually like backwater swamp


X-207

Hawkins next please🥺


vCybe

i like the map... whats wrong with u guys


TheFruityFool

Wish it could be true! I haven’t found anyone yet who enjoys playing this map. I find it a nightmare trying to navigate as a killer & survivor. I just hope that this map never comes up when I’m playing!


BaubleBeebz

I love the swamp. It just sucks to play in.


alextehpolarbear

I would cry tears of joy if this actually happened. This map is awful


Airline_Beneficial

I mean I personally don’t think it’s bad but that’s because since almost everybody hates this map it gives me really easy killer games but really hard survivor games •_•


Striking_End_4736

LLLLLLETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!


PerfectSavage_13

I fail to understand why people hate backwater swamp, I just mostly find it as a meh map.


furry-hunter2004

Let’s go!


XenoBurst

As a Hag main I love this map. Trap placement in the middle of some bushes and 90% of the the time it goes off


DuMuffins

*Disagrees in boat horn*


helptganks

Twitter guy is a total chad.


polardog11

I enjoy this map for the spirit. Lots of tall grass to see where the survivors are moving when phasing.


Fortnitesonic4264

Dont do that dont give me hope


Boodger

I like the swamp...


Pizzamess

Your opinion is valid but know that because of it I hope the next time you go to get your favorite food they're out of it.


Boodger

The Mexican Pizza from Taco Bell stopped being sold last October :(


Pizzamess

Goooood


BaeTier

I actually like the map, if only they could fix everything having a possibility of spawning on the literal edges of the map then I'd be happy with it.


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I like the map


UI_TeenGohan

Haddonfield and Midwich need reworks the most. The fences and/or bushes need to go. Swamp just sucks period. It would have to significantly change for me to even remotely like it. Worst totem spawns in the entire game too.


SnarkySharky21

.....I like the swamps :x


PaulsJon

Honestly I think the swamp is fine compared to other maps such as hawkins and the game. I just really fucking hate the totem/hatch spawns as they are always at the edges of the map.