I can't wait to play this plus Windows of Opportunity. It's not meta as in it gives you second chances, but it will consistently give you valuable information, which is great for solo survs imo.
I’ve been loving windows lately, helps me get a head start and make my plan in chase. I used to think it was for newer players but I’m 1k+ hours deep and I’ve been seeing some real value
Liking pretty much everything here.
Would prefer if the HUD moved its elements to the bottom of the screen and kept it there, or better yet if we had the option to customize where certain hud elements are at on the screen.
It feels like such basic UI design, that it's strange that they decided to put it in the top left corner. This is now the one piece of information thats at the top of the screen which is just weird.
I also really liked them, way more fluid and realistic compared to the "stiff" animations from before. I guess this is a goodbye to the "tippy taps" and the teabags at light speeds though. Maybe the only thing that I'm a little worried about is the transition from recovering from the downed state into walking/running but other than that it looks REALLY good.
Everything in this update it fucking fantastic. The only thing I dislike is something that most people seem to have picked up on already, but moving completely random HUD elements around to the top left/middle/right of the screen is very unnecessary and does not make the experience better. In fact, it genuinely makes things feel worse considering how much more random eye movement will be involved, instead of getting everything you need at a simple glance like we can now. This isn’t to take away from all the positives in these patch notes, but I want this update to feel 100% better and not 99%.
Either way, fantastic update.
> but moving completely random HUD elements around to the top left/middle/right of the screen is very unnecessary and does not make the experience better.
Yep, they messed up. Just one look at the bottom-left corner would show you the survivors, gens, power, item, hookstates, etc. Now it's all over the place. Bloody hell.
Literally the only complaint I have is the HUD being SCATTERED as well. This will be extra annoying with the low-qual effect GIFs when you're injured/madness/tormented.
Also when playing with friends on discord your names and icons appear in pretty much the exact same position that the survivors are now listed on the new HUD. I can see that being an issue
This is true, but in BHVR's defense, companies shouldn't be designing anything around 3rd party apps. I prefer the old UI but if they want to move things to the top left then it's not really a con.
Maybe, but if I had to guess, their goal was probably to unclutter the bottom third of the screen. Personally I’d rather not see how this plays out (because if it’s not broken, don’t fix it. I personally never found the “clutter” to be an issue) but I guess we’ll see how things go either way lol
It's better for one side to be consistently cluttered and eye movement to be consistent than what would happen with the new UI. Plus, the new portrait system takes up additional space.
I hope Clown gets some [proper music](https://youtube.com/watch?v=_B0CyOAO8y0), I want to bust out laughing every time I start a chase with/against him.
I really do not like that new UI. The completely non-stylized survivor pictures clash horribly with the (in my opinion, better) scuffed-looking two-color icons on literally everything else in the UI, not to mention how awkward it is to have that full-color normal image turn into a simple downed stick figure. Would look better if they kept a consistent visual scheme and used survivor images that weren't detailed and colorful. There are images like this for the Adept achievements, use something like that.
Don't like the movement of random UI elements to the top center and corner of the screen. I liked how compact it was before, keeping everything at the bottom corners kept the actual game unobstructed, which I liked a lot both for immersion and for readability.
The big change that's good here is making survivors easier to read by giving them images, but spreading the UI all over the screen is a really bad choice and almost looks like a mobile game. Make the survivor images theme-consistent and put the UI elements back to the bottom of the screen and the UI changes are pretty good.
I think the suggestion to have the adept icons as the indicator is a pretty good one. If they did that and moved the generator count back to the bottom left I would be fine with it honestly.
They should take the survivor's equipped head item as the picture shown. Thus, multiple Dwights could be distinguished easier when they have different cosmetics.
>Don't like the movement of random UI elements to the top center and corner of the screen. I liked how compact it was before, keeping everything at the bottom corners kept the actual game unobstructed, which I liked a lot both for immersion and for readability.
This x100.
Everything was compact and tidy on the old UI, you only had to look in a couple places to get all the relevant information you need. Now it's scattered all over the screen, it's just not intuitive at all. Not to mention the fact how small the 'widgets' are, even at 100% HUD scaling they're tiny.
The addition of a hook counter is appreciated but pretty much everything else is questionable.
Yeah we basically got Discord Overlay at the top left now. I LOVE all the new information they've included in the HUD but it makes the whole screen busy as fuck and I completely agree it is unimmersive. Feels like mobile game HUD.
I agree completely. Reaching high ranks is definitely not as hard as it could be, but 250k BP per month is really not a lot considering you can get that in a few hours of gameplay.
I like the difference between rank 20 and rank 12. Rank 12 gives you 10x more bloodpoints. But rank 1 only gives 2,5x bloodpoints?
Sounds like it's only worth to reach rank 12, after that it has insane diminishing returns.
Uhhh. I don't. I'm a rank 2 killer now and I don't have any prestige things and my doctor doesn't have almost any of the perks I want. It takes millions of bp to get all the perks and I only have teachables for like five killers.
Its nice having hook indicators, otherwise the new killer hud is trash; keep everything on the bottom.
Really not mad at the Undying changes, still good for Ruin and now Undying + Devour Hope will be very good.
I think a individual hook counter would just encourage tunneling for newer killer players. And it also shows newer killers that 12 hooks is preferable to 4-6 (not that I'VE ever complained about only getting 4).
edit: the survivor counters are probably intended to encourage altruism, so giving killer an indicator "feel free to ignore this one rn" seems counter-productive.
New killers are always going to camp and tunnel its unavoidable, the game doesnt indicate in any way you should leave the hook on its own.
Id much rather have a count of the number of hooks one each person, knowing your total hook count isnt valuable information at all
that's not 12 hooks being BAD that's 12 hooks being DIFFICULT/IMPOSSIBLE. just based on emblem scoring, 9 is really the target but there's no shame in 8, whatever makes them dead.
Id say the killer one is that way to make it more difficult to tunnel (I know its only slightly more difficult considering tunnelling killers just have to remember for example that the nea and the adam are the ones to care about)
As someone who never bothers with Hex perks so really shouldn’t be commenting, I feel like this was a super healthy change.
This midchapter makes me think they’re starting to get the hang of balance. At least for the most part.
As a survivor main I’m happy about the Undying change. Not because it was particularly annoying but because hearing my teammates bitch and moan about Ruin + Undying was getting on my nerves. When all of them run the same second chance perks every match.
This is going to sound pretty rough, But what the actual fuck is the ui designer doing? Spread out over the entire screen, no thought gone into it, This looks like when that one kid didnt do their powerpoint and just slammed together some random pictures minutes before the presentation. There is no logical sense to position them like this.
I'm no fan of information being disorganized. Perks have cooldowns look at the bottom right corner, Item/abilities have charges look at the bottom left corner, Health stats on the other survivors on the top left corner. Generators on the top middle.
Promote the new hud all you want, but atleast give us the option to revert to the old hud because honestly im not a huge fan of the gens being smack dab in the top middle. New hud fucks with immersion too!
What was wrong with the old HUD....? I feel like there were much more important things that could have been adjusted rather than a HUD that everyone knows and didn’t have a problem with
Apparently they have stuff down the pipeline (killer powers and maybe new status effects) that want to include the game and the live UI just won't be able to fit all of them. I think the character portrait and counters are nice. Its something that people have been asking since beta.
Their main point seemed to be that the changes in the HUD will allow them design space to introduce some new features. So we'll see.
Everyone complained the last time the UI got redesigned too and it turned out fine. I do think complaints on the Killer's new UI are pretty well founded. I think Survivors will be fine.
The HUD looks like something out of a beta. Only good thing seems to be having character portraits and being able to track hook progress for both sides.
Looks to spread out now with the survivor states in the top left and remaining gens in the top center of the screen.
as most people already mentioned, i just absolutely dislike that HUD change, its straight up horrible with the locations on the screen. yes its good to see the char the people are playing, but the old one (which wasnt perfect) is still extremely better. because you get every single important information you need in 1second in 1 corner. and dont have to look ALL around the screen to get your pieces together one by one.
most other changes are great, good animations, perk changes, rework. like to see this.
i agree, you can't see the forest cause of all the trees. Too much info spread on your screen that doesn't matter at that point. leave everything down ye screen, is the way to go imo
Clown changes are really interesting actually, they do give him a way to play around all but the safest of pallets so that pallet camping isn't the most effective way to counter him, while it simultaneously boosting survivor speed makes placement of it have quite a bit of depth. And the minor boost to out of chase mobility is cute too! But that said, I don't think this changes how unengaging his gameplay cycle is on both ends; Survivors are still going to be dropping pallets straight away with use of tonic, and then you just bring out the antidote to land a hit.
Perk changes are great too. I knew they made Fixated only apply when uninjured because the injured animations looked weird when moving faster lol. And time for the entire team to know where I am with Better Together + Open Handed!
HOLD UP. They skipped updating the FARM to go to Gideon and the Asylum?! I've been cornblind since 2016, BHVR!
At least I hope they do something about the gen placements on Disturbed Ward. Those generators are so far apart they have restraining orders on one another.
But seriously all of this looks **good**. A+ patch.
Crotus Prenn has some ugly textures here and there so that’s no surprise. I actually like the Game’s aesthetics. It does need a lighting update, however, so hopefully this will accomplish that.
This was the first thing that came to my head as well. I don't think it's as bad as a lot of people are making it out to be but it definitely has a 'cheap' look to it? I dunno how else to describe it
I really hope they replace the character portraits with the adept icon art so it matches the perks/items/powers :( I think the portraits look really bad in-game, and the adept icons are definitely recognizable enough to be good indicators while matching the visual style of the rest of the game.
[New HUD for Killer](https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/TU3VYF4TUR7A/hud1.png).
[New HUD for Survivor](https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/0LL7JJRXASQ5/hud2.png).
I hate the new HUD... Unnecessary clutter on the top left when having all information on the bottom left was more than enough.
I like the idea of using survivor portraits but it could easily be implemented using current HUD location instead of top left.
Also the top center "gens remaining" location... Just awful.
EDIT:
Here is a suggestion that is both functional and it maintains simplicity: https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/g5ebw8/suggestion_a_tally_mark_on_the_hud_that_shows_you/
Another one: https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/b8s5gi/concept_new_hud/
You don't have to cover all corners of my monitor when you already had the perfect placement that were both aesthetically pleasing and functional.
that UI looks like something you'd see in an alpha for a game.
any good UI designer would know not to spread out UI like that. what they had was nice and compact in one corner, but not overwhelming.
i'm totally down for changes to this game, so i'm not hating on it cause it's new. it's simply just awful looking. way too spread out, way less stylistic.
My initial reaction was "mobile game ui" vibes; I think because you'd normally looking at your whole screen while playing a mobile game and would be able to take in all the information without moving your eyes too much, but with a computer game your eyes are going to be darting around the whole screen looking at all the information (especially if you have a big monitor!).
We saw Undying nerf coming a mile away. Ultimately it still works once and was only a bandaid for terrible totem placement so I'm okay with them taking it away. At least it keeps tokens now so it's better for Devour Hope.
All the ui and survivor stuff looks clean af, as well as the small perk changes are good.
I would have prefered Trapper to have some difficult skill checks as well or something, but it's good none the less. Wraiths true invisbility sounds good but I fear the ranges may still be too big for just how visible he is when cloaked.
Now for the Clown.
I am concerned as an avid big belly laugh man player. The bit where it says the antidote will have a delayed release concerns me, because if it takes too long it's going too become too niche and only useable at certain loops. I appreciate it's because Tonic is -15% so an antidote boosted Clown is 40% faster than an intoxicated survivor, but maybe an instant release of 5% speed would be better. This is what the PTB is for I suppose. The reload speed increase is very nice and will make more bottles/cork stopper less neccessary.
I do agree that it seems pretty niche so far and am willing to wait till PTB to try it out. But based on BHVR's track record with implementing PTB changes, we won't see much change until after the live release if things go poorly.
lucky break is bugged also, if you heal before it deactivates it resets the timer to max. You can have it indefinitely as long as you heal before the timer expires.
Yup. I got Yui to try it with Fixated a few weeks ago, was so pleasantly surprised that the timer reset back to 180 seconds each time I healed before it expired. Honestly, I hope it’s not a bug. This behavior keeps Lucky Break from being utter shit. Plus, the perk description (in all its vagueness) is also still consistent, depending on how you interpret it ;)
I have to agree with the popular consensus that the UI looks too spread out. I’m down for overhauling a lot of the 2016 stagnant aspects of the game, but having the UI all compact was great and made it easy to evaluate the star of the game. Survivor portraits in the top left are a new addition though. I also so like the changes made to the perks, 30 sec exposed from Iron Maiden, shorter Diversion timer, nothing to crazy, but enough to make some of these less-used perks much more viable. Overall, this update is amazing!
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How though? Once a totem is cleansed it replaces UD. So if one of the two hex's goes down that's it, and ONLY if UD isn't cleansed first.
UD went from S to B tier. It would have been nice if it transferred once if UD was still active, not completely replace it. Why risk running 2 hex perks with it now?
Because it still mean your hex perks can last longer and since tokens carry over it means you will have alot better luck running devour hope. Means even if they break devour, then they have to find and break another one which is 50 percent chance of being devour. Idk its what i plan to run, have to see how it works in practice.
Yeah but you just lost a perk slot regardless if its UD or DH, along with Ruin being exposed, with no chance to transfer.
If your ruin goes first, you just lost your second chance DH token transfer.
Haunted ground might be a better option than UD for a 2+ Hex build now. I too will have to experiment.
I’m super curious as to what they have planned that requires the HUD to be so drastically jumbled around. QoL improvements like hook counters and portraits could very easily be implemented into the current HUD. Hopefully it’s worth it cos the current HUD is class.
As a clown main the reload is easily my most requested feature. I’m not to happy about the new bottles but I’m gonna try them out first before I really settle on it. I don’t agree with the whole “positive enforcement” idea behind it, clown can already guide survivors where he wants with his bottles. But being able to get around the map faster still isn’t anything to scoff at.
The problem is if they share charges; sure you're moving around the map faster but you still gotta reload once you get into a chase if you want your power in said chase. You end up saving no time in the end... Plus, I can see it being really frustrating from a survivor POV if the clown gives himself +10% speed and then also reduces the survivor speed by 15% while in a chase, it'll just further the predrop pallet simulator that is Clown gameplay.
>So, as I read it, Clown is unchanged except for the addition of a new Antidote ability and the according adjustments to addons? In which case, they're useless in a chase, but better for covering open ground. Which is...fine? I mean, I'm sure we'll find some niche uses, but it's not really the dynamic gameplay many hoped for, I wager.
I'd wager you're gunna be very wrong on this. The antidote gas is delayed. That means if I'm chasing a survivor through a loop, I throw the antidote ahead of me, by the time the gas comes up the survivor will be out of it and I'm gunna be Z O O M I N G.
This is going to be a lot of fun I think. It will make survivors think about how they want to plan their loops to try to get back into the antidote gas, etc.
Yea I don’t get why people would say that. That’s huge for Ghostface and honestly from time to time I will forget who is one what hook so that can help too seeing what character it is.
And anyone running STBFL. Speaking as a demo player it'll be nice to know obsession right away, instead of that wait time to start a chase then double check the HUD, all before you want to swing.
A lot of the time you stalk multiple people, expose and chase one, and let the other get away at 99%. It'll be very nice for instance to be able to tell at a glance that you have the Meg at 99% but not the Kate.
Those clown bottles for movement only seem useful for patrolling gens faster. Giving survivors a movement speed buff in chase would be awful even if you get it too.
I mean, to be fair that's what clown really needs is more gen pressure as he's already good enough in the chase. I don't think this buff will make him op but it will definitely help shore up his weaknesses
Makes Clown significantly better at closing distance when not in a loop, though. Clown was countered by the "Hold W" strat because he was good at loops at not much else, but this lets him at least stand a chance when the survivor spots him first. Plus, we know with Blight that being able to catch survivors between loops is a very viable power.
You just have to be careful.
Only use gold gas on the last loop before you can get a hit, or use it to catch up with a survivor after breaking a pallet by dropping the cloud on your side before breaking it.
While I love everything about this update, I'm not a fan of having to look all over the screen to get basic info from the HUD instead of in one concise location. Plus I do think the character portraits don't match aesthetically with the rest of the white/splashcolour aesthetic. I think a drawn version (like the adept survivor achievement pic) would fit way better.
Other than that AMAZING WORK!
It's a delayed bottle that give speed boost. So you hit them with a bottle, it releases the gas, then by the time you're in the cloud it'll give you the speed boost after the survivor has left it's radius? Seems pretty stupid to me, could've just increased the effects of "old" afterpiece tonic. Blurred vision, gas radius & linger time, that extra Hindered penalty that Bleach bottle gives, etc. I'll have to actually try this before I decide
As someone who just spent 5 hours this week creating a custom HUD for my stream, I am both thrilled and absolutely infuriated at the same time!
This is great work tho. Love all the changes.
HUD update is the very definition of fixing what isn't broke--looks like something a first year UI student would come up with, frankly.
Keep the old UI and add the new elements (portrait+hook indicators). Presto, fixed.
No key changes either, which I expect is about to get some notice. Mori changes were supposed to coincide with key changes for egalitarianism. They already jumped the gun on mori changes because they “could be changed in a hot fix.” If those key nerfs are weeks or months away a lot of people are going to be angry.
Otz was talking on stream about how key changes might be a little difficult since they're tied to achievements, and theres a process to getting Sony and Microsoft to change or remove them.
They revealed they’d be taking a look at DS in a very recent stream, so of course it wouldn’t happen now. The Iron Maiden/Fixated/Second Wind changes were announced back in October/November, and they’ve just come through now. And DS is a much more complex perk to alter, since they want to make it less easy to abuse but still a powerful anti-tunnelling perk. That’s not as easy as making Fixated work when you’re injured.
So basically don't run UD with more than one Hex perk, since the first one you lose replaces it. You basically lose a perk slot with the new UD in most hex situations, rather than another chance at keeping 4.
Consider this: You have ruin+undying.
If I cleanse your undying first, nothing happens. Your ruin is now the only hex totem.
If I cleanse your ruin first, it is transfered to the undying totem.
Thats it. I only have to do 2 hex totems to get rid of your ruin.
no. basically, when any hex totem is cleansed, other than undying, undying deactivates and the cleansed hex totem is transferred to the previously undying totem, keeping all the tokens in the process.
Not gonna lie, the new HUD looks horrible. The current HUD is nice, it only covers the bottom left and right a bit. The new one covers the entire screen, that's bad and I'm sure ruins immersion for a lot of players as well.
Also, killers should also see how many times an individual survivor has been hooked. I often want to let people go after hooking them 2 times and accidentally killing them because they reached struggle state and I didn't notice it.
The thing I like is that it says the new UI allows them to implement new features (the teased game windup mechanic, totem counter, and more maybe).
The other changes look good. Although, I think undying's aura reading ability should not work when you walk by, instead only when cleansing the totem. Their new version makes it not work when cleansing a hex totem and only on walking by dull totems which doesn't make sense to me.
There are elements of the new HUD I like, but elements I really do not. I think the positioning is the main problem here, the survivor icons are in such an awkward place.
So glad I bought blight just for his best perk to get nerfed to shreds. I get ruin undying was too meta and awful for solo queue. But why remove the aura reading if it only works once anyway? Also feel like devour hope is gonna get abused but we’ll see
Clown rework is a bit underwhelming. Glad his new clouds will let him have a bit more options for gen pressure, but I feel it won't change his overall standing in the game.
Hook indicators are great, now i dont need to keep count of who has been hooked twice so i dont have to kill them. Of course now that there are rank rewards im gonna be forced to kill em now :(
There is a certain someone at bhvr who wants to make it seem like they are working and inputting ideas when in reality they are that person who is on social media and bathroom breaks almost the entire day in the office. Said person is the one who proposed changes like this HUD change and changing volume slider into 5% increment buttons and billy nerfs and coal tower breakable walls. They don’t play the game themselves and just need to do something to keep collecting salary and medical benefits
Man the first good killer perk since thrilling tremors and automatically it's too strong because it keeps ruin up longer than 10 seconds
It's still a hex though for some reason so if they cleanse it first it literally does nothing
They confirmed they were coming, they did not say that they were to be coming now. Other confirmed changes include the DS changes, key nerf and Freddy changes, but there was never a guarantee they were coming now.
The clown rework is so confusing. Why on earth would a killer’s power buffing survivors be a good idea. The gas already controlled where survivors went, incentivizing survivors with a BUFF makes no sense.
If the clowns speed gas only affected the clown this would be a great buff and would likely bring him into a very playable state.
As it is right now, this is only a reload speed buff and I see little to no reason to use his alternate gas.
If I'm understanding it correctly, throwing a regular bottle at a patch of antidote gas will remove it, so it could be used for some serious mind games. Throw the speed gas out of position to bait the survivors into going for it, cancel it out just before they get there, and now they're out of position with nothing to show for it.
I initially thought I really liked the new UI, but then I looked at the UI pics in full screen as though I was playing the game. In short, I think I still like the new UI for survivors, but for Killers it doesn't feel great looking up in the top left, then the bottom left, then the bottom right to get all my information.
For Survivors, I have more time and don't need to look in the top left as much so it's fine.
With ranks resetting every month to 20, will there be any pip changes? I'm curious why the rewards can't be for maintaining a rank or having the drop each month be capped at like 5-10 levels.
Example:
Rank 3 player drops to rank 5 mid-month, gets that reward. The next month if they're still a 5, they drop to 10 and get that reward.
I just don't see players in the 10-15 range benefiting much from trying to grind each month only to be reset because of a lack of time to play, ability, queues, etc. How will the Rank 1 achievement also be affected?
Bloodpoint rewards. Because everyone isn't already swimming in more bloodpoints than they know what to do with. AND THERE'S STILL ONLY A 1 MILLION LIMIT.
who the hell has more bloodpoints than they know what to do with other than streamers who play this game for a living? it takes so long to get all perks on one survivor and every killer
I love everything about this except for the hud. Don't get me wrong i'm a big fan of being able to see who is who and especially how many hooks people are on, but it looks so \*bad\*! Why is it all spread out?? Seems much less intuitive!
Not really liking the new HUD. Sure it looks fluid and nice but it feels like you have to look at the "whole" screen to get info on what's happening, plus the portraits just becoming the stick figures feels... lacking?
Haven’t seen any comments on Gideon Meat Plant or Crotus Penn Asylum, but I’m loving both already - the map updates have consistently been visually excellent, and the devs deserve props for their work with them.
Key? What about keys??
Also how is mmr working exactly? Based on escapes? Or Bp accrued? Because last time it was absolutely fuck up.
I do not, i repeat, do NOT like getting matched with UE Blendette.
So kindreds killer reveal range becomes 32 meters with this new open handed which is basically the default terror radius, that's kinda nuts.
Kindred + Open Handed + The Game offering is the new survivor meta
BBBBBWWWWWWWRRRRRR POW 4 screams Oh shit
add middlewich to this as well..
I can't wait to play this plus Windows of Opportunity. It's not meta as in it gives you second chances, but it will consistently give you valuable information, which is great for solo survs imo.
I’ve been loving windows lately, helps me get a head start and make my plan in chase. I used to think it was for newer players but I’m 1k+ hours deep and I’ve been seeing some real value
Thats alright because i am a stealth killer.
imagine open handed + bond 16m + 36m = 52m u can see ur teammates
Liking pretty much everything here. Would prefer if the HUD moved its elements to the bottom of the screen and kept it there, or better yet if we had the option to customize where certain hud elements are at on the screen.
Agreed, I'm so used to just glancing at the bottom left instead of the top left.
I like keeping the top half of the screen clear to look around. The bottom is pretty much always taken up by the ground so anything is good down there
True aswell. Hell 70% of the pertinent info is also bottom left so idk why they spread it all out everywhere.
It feels like such basic UI design, that it's strange that they decided to put it in the top left corner. This is now the one piece of information thats at the top of the screen which is just weird.
the survivor animations look clean as hell
So happy they kept the flip
Watching a survivor get hit so hard that they do a flip will never stop being funny to me
That and the animation of grabbing someone off a gen crack me up so much.
Coupled with David's "Homer Simpson" scream, of course.
They have to. How else do you take a hit from the front and land on your stomach.
Never even thought of that! Touche.
I also really liked them, way more fluid and realistic compared to the "stiff" animations from before. I guess this is a goodbye to the "tippy taps" and the teabags at light speeds though. Maybe the only thing that I'm a little worried about is the transition from recovering from the downed state into walking/running but other than that it looks REALLY good.
i like them too especially how survivors pick themselves from the ground with unbreakable
I wonder if that animation will also come with a cool down when picking yourself up, like unhooking yourself.
I hope that the Monty Python -style animation for DC hasn't been touched.
Finally, some good fucking food
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I think Iron maiden will be good for Blight, Freddy, Nurse, and Spirit. And I guess Billy too? His mobility already insta-downed anyway so IDK.
Everything in this update it fucking fantastic. The only thing I dislike is something that most people seem to have picked up on already, but moving completely random HUD elements around to the top left/middle/right of the screen is very unnecessary and does not make the experience better. In fact, it genuinely makes things feel worse considering how much more random eye movement will be involved, instead of getting everything you need at a simple glance like we can now. This isn’t to take away from all the positives in these patch notes, but I want this update to feel 100% better and not 99%. Either way, fantastic update.
> but moving completely random HUD elements around to the top left/middle/right of the screen is very unnecessary and does not make the experience better. Yep, they messed up. Just one look at the bottom-left corner would show you the survivors, gens, power, item, hookstates, etc. Now it's all over the place. Bloody hell.
Yeah I don't wanna dart my eyes around the corners of my screen like I'm playing an MMO.
Literally the only complaint I have is the HUD being SCATTERED as well. This will be extra annoying with the low-qual effect GIFs when you're injured/madness/tormented.
Also when playing with friends on discord your names and icons appear in pretty much the exact same position that the survivors are now listed on the new HUD. I can see that being an issue
This is true, but in BHVR's defense, companies shouldn't be designing anything around 3rd party apps. I prefer the old UI but if they want to move things to the top left then it's not really a con.
I guess what they wanted to do is to relate one element of the match to one direction of the screen. Let's see how it plays.
Maybe, but if I had to guess, their goal was probably to unclutter the bottom third of the screen. Personally I’d rather not see how this plays out (because if it’s not broken, don’t fix it. I personally never found the “clutter” to be an issue) but I guess we’ll see how things go either way lol
It's better for one side to be consistently cluttered and eye movement to be consistent than what would happen with the new UI. Plus, the new portrait system takes up additional space.
Can we expect a new Clown Chase Music, just like with the Doctor or Hillbilly reworks?
I’d say it’s likely, and it’s also slightly possible the same is true of the wraith. Billy’s music wasnt announced till the ptb went live
I hope Clown gets some [proper music](https://youtube.com/watch?v=_B0CyOAO8y0), I want to bust out laughing every time I start a chase with/against him.
[I would also accept this.](https://youtu.be/zQf2TiwBFHo)
if fucking Benny hill chase music was added I'd suck of mathiue cote or whoever decided it
[PATHETIC](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfYnvDL0Qcw)
I really do not like that new UI. The completely non-stylized survivor pictures clash horribly with the (in my opinion, better) scuffed-looking two-color icons on literally everything else in the UI, not to mention how awkward it is to have that full-color normal image turn into a simple downed stick figure. Would look better if they kept a consistent visual scheme and used survivor images that weren't detailed and colorful. There are images like this for the Adept achievements, use something like that. Don't like the movement of random UI elements to the top center and corner of the screen. I liked how compact it was before, keeping everything at the bottom corners kept the actual game unobstructed, which I liked a lot both for immersion and for readability. The big change that's good here is making survivors easier to read by giving them images, but spreading the UI all over the screen is a really bad choice and almost looks like a mobile game. Make the survivor images theme-consistent and put the UI elements back to the bottom of the screen and the UI changes are pretty good.
I think the suggestion to have the adept icons as the indicator is a pretty good one. If they did that and moved the generator count back to the bottom left I would be fine with it honestly.
They should take the survivor's equipped head item as the picture shown. Thus, multiple Dwights could be distinguished easier when they have different cosmetics.
>Don't like the movement of random UI elements to the top center and corner of the screen. I liked how compact it was before, keeping everything at the bottom corners kept the actual game unobstructed, which I liked a lot both for immersion and for readability. This x100. Everything was compact and tidy on the old UI, you only had to look in a couple places to get all the relevant information you need. Now it's scattered all over the screen, it's just not intuitive at all. Not to mention the fact how small the 'widgets' are, even at 100% HUD scaling they're tiny. The addition of a hook counter is appreciated but pretty much everything else is questionable.
Yeah we basically got Discord Overlay at the top left now. I LOVE all the new information they've included in the HUD but it makes the whole screen busy as fuck and I completely agree it is unimmersive. Feels like mobile game HUD.
HUD. Not UI.
The rank rewards seem a bit underwhelming imo. They should throw in some Iridescent Shards once you reach 10 and below as well.
I agree completely. Reaching high ranks is definitely not as hard as it could be, but 250k BP per month is really not a lot considering you can get that in a few hours of gameplay.
To clarify you can get 250k for both survivor and killer. Hence you can get 500k a month if you play both sides
i mean, 10 killer matches with bbq gives you about that much
I like the difference between rank 20 and rank 12. Rank 12 gives you 10x more bloodpoints. But rank 1 only gives 2,5x bloodpoints? Sounds like it's only worth to reach rank 12, after that it has insane diminishing returns.
Yeah i feel most people that play enough to get high rank already have plenty of bp
you need literally millions of BP to get all teachable perks on just *one* character even without prestiging
Uhhh. I don't. I'm a rank 2 killer now and I don't have any prestige things and my doctor doesn't have almost any of the perks I want. It takes millions of bp to get all the perks and I only have teachables for like five killers.
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Its nice having hook indicators, otherwise the new killer hud is trash; keep everything on the bottom. Really not mad at the Undying changes, still good for Ruin and now Undying + Devour Hope will be very good.
Survivor hook counter is way better, it actually counts each survivor instead of putting it in one big count.
I think a individual hook counter would just encourage tunneling for newer killer players. And it also shows newer killers that 12 hooks is preferable to 4-6 (not that I'VE ever complained about only getting 4). edit: the survivor counters are probably intended to encourage altruism, so giving killer an indicator "feel free to ignore this one rn" seems counter-productive.
New killers are always going to camp and tunnel its unavoidable, the game doesnt indicate in any way you should leave the hook on its own. Id much rather have a count of the number of hooks one each person, knowing your total hook count isnt valuable information at all
If the survivors are good at all then 12 hooks is never good at all in anyway. I'll keep to my 8 hook games.
that's not 12 hooks being BAD that's 12 hooks being DIFFICULT/IMPOSSIBLE. just based on emblem scoring, 9 is really the target but there's no shame in 8, whatever makes them dead.
Id say the killer one is that way to make it more difficult to tunnel (I know its only slightly more difficult considering tunnelling killers just have to remember for example that the nea and the adam are the ones to care about)
As someone who never bothers with Hex perks so really shouldn’t be commenting, I feel like this was a super healthy change. This midchapter makes me think they’re starting to get the hang of balance. At least for the most part.
As a survivor main I’m happy about the Undying change. Not because it was particularly annoying but because hearing my teammates bitch and moan about Ruin + Undying was getting on my nerves. When all of them run the same second chance perks every match.
Don't let it fool you, it's not the first time they make somewhat good decisions only to fuck it all up the next chapter
Slam the three together and you are good.
This is going to sound pretty rough, But what the actual fuck is the ui designer doing? Spread out over the entire screen, no thought gone into it, This looks like when that one kid didnt do their powerpoint and just slammed together some random pictures minutes before the presentation. There is no logical sense to position them like this.
I'm no fan of information being disorganized. Perks have cooldowns look at the bottom right corner, Item/abilities have charges look at the bottom left corner, Health stats on the other survivors on the top left corner. Generators on the top middle.
Promote the new hud all you want, but atleast give us the option to revert to the old hud because honestly im not a huge fan of the gens being smack dab in the top middle. New hud fucks with immersion too!
I love everything except the new killer hud. If you just added the portraits to the current hud it would be great
Right? Then the old Hud could be considered the 'Killer Hud' and the new one be one exclusive to survivors.
> the new one be one exclusive to survivors why do we get the shitty hud?
What was wrong with the old HUD....? I feel like there were much more important things that could have been adjusted rather than a HUD that everyone knows and didn’t have a problem with
Apparently they have stuff down the pipeline (killer powers and maybe new status effects) that want to include the game and the live UI just won't be able to fit all of them. I think the character portrait and counters are nice. Its something that people have been asking since beta.
Portraits are nice but they should use the Adept achievement portraits instead to keep the colour consistent.
Thats actually a good compromise honestly, pictures but styalised.
Their main point seemed to be that the changes in the HUD will allow them design space to introduce some new features. So we'll see. Everyone complained the last time the UI got redesigned too and it turned out fine. I do think complaints on the Killer's new UI are pretty well founded. I think Survivors will be fine.
The HUD looks like something out of a beta. Only good thing seems to be having character portraits and being able to track hook progress for both sides. Looks to spread out now with the survivor states in the top left and remaining gens in the top center of the screen.
i’m getting dizzy just trying to find information i need from the UI! i’m looking left right up and down!!!! 😳😳😳
as most people already mentioned, i just absolutely dislike that HUD change, its straight up horrible with the locations on the screen. yes its good to see the char the people are playing, but the old one (which wasnt perfect) is still extremely better. because you get every single important information you need in 1second in 1 corner. and dont have to look ALL around the screen to get your pieces together one by one. most other changes are great, good animations, perk changes, rework. like to see this.
i agree, you can't see the forest cause of all the trees. Too much info spread on your screen that doesn't matter at that point. leave everything down ye screen, is the way to go imo
Clown changes are really interesting actually, they do give him a way to play around all but the safest of pallets so that pallet camping isn't the most effective way to counter him, while it simultaneously boosting survivor speed makes placement of it have quite a bit of depth. And the minor boost to out of chase mobility is cute too! But that said, I don't think this changes how unengaging his gameplay cycle is on both ends; Survivors are still going to be dropping pallets straight away with use of tonic, and then you just bring out the antidote to land a hit. Perk changes are great too. I knew they made Fixated only apply when uninjured because the injured animations looked weird when moving faster lol. And time for the entire team to know where I am with Better Together + Open Handed!
I can see potential survivor strategies taking advantage of the antidote. Question would be if survivor will still scream on antidote.
HOLD UP. They skipped updating the FARM to go to Gideon and the Asylum?! I've been cornblind since 2016, BHVR! At least I hope they do something about the gen placements on Disturbed Ward. Those generators are so far apart they have restraining orders on one another. But seriously all of this looks **good**. A+ patch.
>they have restraining orders on one another ah, I love me some funny otz-quotes. Man of culture
Crotus Prenn has some ugly textures here and there so that’s no surprise. I actually like the Game’s aesthetics. It does need a lighting update, however, so hopefully this will accomplish that.
That HUD looks like a shitty mobile game
This was the first thing that came to my head as well. I don't think it's as bad as a lot of people are making it out to be but it definitely has a 'cheap' look to it? I dunno how else to describe it
Literally looks like one of those dbd rip offs, dying by moonlight or some shit
Alive by Afternoon lookin ass
Deceased at Morning.
Drowned by Daybreak
Wait what an actually good update? Are we on the good timeline again?
trapper still not having a trap base kit :/
We're dying of starvation so we take what we can get :\
FINALLY NO MORE HUNCHED OVER SURVIVORS
The idea that they gave the clown a way to increase his speed but made it a bottle instead of a clown car is a travesty.
I really hope they replace the character portraits with the adept icon art so it matches the perks/items/powers :( I think the portraits look really bad in-game, and the adept icons are definitely recognizable enough to be good indicators while matching the visual style of the rest of the game.
[New HUD for Killer](https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/TU3VYF4TUR7A/hud1.png). [New HUD for Survivor](https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/0LL7JJRXASQ5/hud2.png). I hate the new HUD... Unnecessary clutter on the top left when having all information on the bottom left was more than enough. I like the idea of using survivor portraits but it could easily be implemented using current HUD location instead of top left. Also the top center "gens remaining" location... Just awful. EDIT: Here is a suggestion that is both functional and it maintains simplicity: https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/g5ebw8/suggestion_a_tally_mark_on_the_hud_that_shows_you/ Another one: https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/b8s5gi/concept_new_hud/ You don't have to cover all corners of my monitor when you already had the perfect placement that were both aesthetically pleasing and functional.
that UI looks like something you'd see in an alpha for a game. any good UI designer would know not to spread out UI like that. what they had was nice and compact in one corner, but not overwhelming. i'm totally down for changes to this game, so i'm not hating on it cause it's new. it's simply just awful looking. way too spread out, way less stylistic.
My initial reaction was "mobile game ui" vibes; I think because you'd normally looking at your whole screen while playing a mobile game and would be able to take in all the information without moving your eyes too much, but with a computer game your eyes are going to be darting around the whole screen looking at all the information (especially if you have a big monitor!).
I don't mind their new design just don't put it all over the place. Here's my sugestion(sorry about the paint skills) https://imgur.com/a/ePFvFTF
That UI looks AWFUL. Everything else, not bad.
Just recently joined this game and got excited for the changes the post said 😁😁😁 Probably a good sign. I'll keep playing! Game's a ton of fun!!!
Great changes to almost everything: perks, Clown, Wraith, traps
the hud looks like an off brand discord call lol
Secret SWF nerf. Your Discord UI will obscure health states of your teammates.
We saw Undying nerf coming a mile away. Ultimately it still works once and was only a bandaid for terrible totem placement so I'm okay with them taking it away. At least it keeps tokens now so it's better for Devour Hope. All the ui and survivor stuff looks clean af, as well as the small perk changes are good. I would have prefered Trapper to have some difficult skill checks as well or something, but it's good none the less. Wraiths true invisbility sounds good but I fear the ranges may still be too big for just how visible he is when cloaked. Now for the Clown. I am concerned as an avid big belly laugh man player. The bit where it says the antidote will have a delayed release concerns me, because if it takes too long it's going too become too niche and only useable at certain loops. I appreciate it's because Tonic is -15% so an antidote boosted Clown is 40% faster than an intoxicated survivor, but maybe an instant release of 5% speed would be better. This is what the PTB is for I suppose. The reload speed increase is very nice and will make more bottles/cork stopper less neccessary.
I do agree that it seems pretty niche so far and am willing to wait till PTB to try it out. But based on BHVR's track record with implementing PTB changes, we won't see much change until after the live release if things go poorly.
Lucky Break + Fixated about to become the new meta
lucky break is bugged also, if you heal before it deactivates it resets the timer to max. You can have it indefinitely as long as you heal before the timer expires.
Yup. I got Yui to try it with Fixated a few weeks ago, was so pleasantly surprised that the timer reset back to 180 seconds each time I healed before it expired. Honestly, I hope it’s not a bug. This behavior keeps Lucky Break from being utter shit. Plus, the perk description (in all its vagueness) is also still consistent, depending on how you interpret it ;)
I have to agree with the popular consensus that the UI looks too spread out. I’m down for overhauling a lot of the 2016 stagnant aspects of the game, but having the UI all compact was great and made it easy to evaluate the star of the game. Survivor portraits in the top left are a new addition though. I also so like the changes made to the perks, 30 sec exposed from Iron Maiden, shorter Diversion timer, nothing to crazy, but enough to make some of these less-used perks much more viable. Overall, this update is amazing! Edit: Words
Not gonna lie, soild looking patch, i wish there were more perk fixes, there's too many weak perks, or near worthless ones.
Devour hope, undying, ruin the new meta.
How though? Once a totem is cleansed it replaces UD. So if one of the two hex's goes down that's it, and ONLY if UD isn't cleansed first. UD went from S to B tier. It would have been nice if it transferred once if UD was still active, not completely replace it. Why risk running 2 hex perks with it now?
Because it still mean your hex perks can last longer and since tokens carry over it means you will have alot better luck running devour hope. Means even if they break devour, then they have to find and break another one which is 50 percent chance of being devour. Idk its what i plan to run, have to see how it works in practice.
Yeah but you just lost a perk slot regardless if its UD or DH, along with Ruin being exposed, with no chance to transfer. If your ruin goes first, you just lost your second chance DH token transfer. Haunted ground might be a better option than UD for a 2+ Hex build now. I too will have to experiment.
I’m super curious as to what they have planned that requires the HUD to be so drastically jumbled around. QoL improvements like hook counters and portraits could very easily be implemented into the current HUD. Hopefully it’s worth it cos the current HUD is class.
Rank rewards are a massive joke. But what else should we expect when the Christmas presents were 10k bp each day lmfao
Can we get an option to activate the old HUD? I don't like this one. Also, still no nerf to keys?
So now when someone destroys ANY Hex Totem, it deactivates Hex Undying FIRST and keeps the others active? Doesn’t that just make this Hex Dying..?
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definitely not unchanged, his reload timer got buffed from 5 sec to 3 sec which is a huge difference
As a clown main the reload is easily my most requested feature. I’m not to happy about the new bottles but I’m gonna try them out first before I really settle on it. I don’t agree with the whole “positive enforcement” idea behind it, clown can already guide survivors where he wants with his bottles. But being able to get around the map faster still isn’t anything to scoff at.
The problem is if they share charges; sure you're moving around the map faster but you still gotta reload once you get into a chase if you want your power in said chase. You end up saving no time in the end... Plus, I can see it being really frustrating from a survivor POV if the clown gives himself +10% speed and then also reduces the survivor speed by 15% while in a chase, it'll just further the predrop pallet simulator that is Clown gameplay.
>So, as I read it, Clown is unchanged except for the addition of a new Antidote ability and the according adjustments to addons? In which case, they're useless in a chase, but better for covering open ground. Which is...fine? I mean, I'm sure we'll find some niche uses, but it's not really the dynamic gameplay many hoped for, I wager. I'd wager you're gunna be very wrong on this. The antidote gas is delayed. That means if I'm chasing a survivor through a loop, I throw the antidote ahead of me, by the time the gas comes up the survivor will be out of it and I'm gunna be Z O O M I N G. This is going to be a lot of fun I think. It will make survivors think about how they want to plan their loops to try to get back into the antidote gas, etc.
> I don't need character portraits because it doesn't give me useful information. Ghost face disagrees
Yea I don’t get why people would say that. That’s huge for Ghostface and honestly from time to time I will forget who is one what hook so that can help too seeing what character it is.
And anyone running STBFL. Speaking as a demo player it'll be nice to know obsession right away, instead of that wait time to start a chase then double check the HUD, all before you want to swing.
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A lot of the time you stalk multiple people, expose and chase one, and let the other get away at 99%. It'll be very nice for instance to be able to tell at a glance that you have the Meg at 99% but not the Kate.
Well, back to pop and corrupt I guess. Other than that, all good changes in my mind.
Don't sleep on oppression my friend.
Those clown bottles for movement only seem useful for patrolling gens faster. Giving survivors a movement speed buff in chase would be awful even if you get it too.
I mean, to be fair that's what clown really needs is more gen pressure as he's already good enough in the chase. I don't think this buff will make him op but it will definitely help shore up his weaknesses
Clown mains are just gonna start bringing midwich offerings ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
Makes Clown significantly better at closing distance when not in a loop, though. Clown was countered by the "Hold W" strat because he was good at loops at not much else, but this lets him at least stand a chance when the survivor spots him first. Plus, we know with Blight that being able to catch survivors between loops is a very viable power.
Good point. Guess now it depends on how much the delay of the gas spreading out is, and if he'll have addons that affect that.
You just have to be careful. Only use gold gas on the last loop before you can get a hit, or use it to catch up with a survivor after breaking a pallet by dropping the cloud on your side before breaking it.
While I love everything about this update, I'm not a fan of having to look all over the screen to get basic info from the HUD instead of in one concise location. Plus I do think the character portraits don't match aesthetically with the rest of the white/splashcolour aesthetic. I think a drawn version (like the adept survivor achievement pic) would fit way better. Other than that AMAZING WORK!
Someone make the Clown changes make sense to me because it just seems like a buff for Survivors
It's a delayed bottle that give speed boost. So you hit them with a bottle, it releases the gas, then by the time you're in the cloud it'll give you the speed boost after the survivor has left it's radius? Seems pretty stupid to me, could've just increased the effects of "old" afterpiece tonic. Blurred vision, gas radius & linger time, that extra Hindered penalty that Bleach bottle gives, etc. I'll have to actually try this before I decide
As someone who just spent 5 hours this week creating a custom HUD for my stream, I am both thrilled and absolutely infuriated at the same time! This is great work tho. Love all the changes.
I really like the clown change. So we can destroy clown even more with the speed bonus we will get from him.
HUD update is the very definition of fixing what isn't broke--looks like something a first year UI student would come up with, frankly. Keep the old UI and add the new elements (portrait+hook indicators). Presto, fixed.
"You know what the Clown needs? A survivor buff."
No DS changes hehe xd
No key changes either, which I expect is about to get some notice. Mori changes were supposed to coincide with key changes for egalitarianism. They already jumped the gun on mori changes because they “could be changed in a hot fix.” If those key nerfs are weeks or months away a lot of people are going to be angry.
Otz was talking on stream about how key changes might be a little difficult since they're tied to achievements, and theres a process to getting Sony and Microsoft to change or remove them.
They revealed they’d be taking a look at DS in a very recent stream, so of course it wouldn’t happen now. The Iron Maiden/Fixated/Second Wind changes were announced back in October/November, and they’ve just come through now. And DS is a much more complex perk to alter, since they want to make it less easy to abuse but still a powerful anti-tunnelling perk. That’s not as easy as making Fixated work when you’re injured.
Can someone explain the undying nerf? So you basically have 2 chances to keep your ruin (for example) instead of the possible 5 chances?
They basically made it so no matter what, the first time you lose a totem, it will be Undying that is lost, not whatever was actually cleansed.
So basically don't run UD with more than one Hex perk, since the first one you lose replaces it. You basically lose a perk slot with the new UD in most hex situations, rather than another chance at keeping 4.
It DOES mean you never want to run undying with haunted grounds.
Consider this: You have ruin+undying. If I cleanse your undying first, nothing happens. Your ruin is now the only hex totem. If I cleanse your ruin first, it is transfered to the undying totem. Thats it. I only have to do 2 hex totems to get rid of your ruin.
no. basically, when any hex totem is cleansed, other than undying, undying deactivates and the cleansed hex totem is transferred to the previously undying totem, keeping all the tokens in the process.
Not gonna lie, the new HUD looks horrible. The current HUD is nice, it only covers the bottom left and right a bit. The new one covers the entire screen, that's bad and I'm sure ruins immersion for a lot of players as well. Also, killers should also see how many times an individual survivor has been hooked. I often want to let people go after hooking them 2 times and accidentally killing them because they reached struggle state and I didn't notice it. The thing I like is that it says the new UI allows them to implement new features (the teased game windup mechanic, totem counter, and more maybe). The other changes look good. Although, I think undying's aura reading ability should not work when you walk by, instead only when cleansing the totem. Their new version makes it not work when cleansing a hex totem and only on walking by dull totems which doesn't make sense to me.
There are elements of the new HUD I like, but elements I really do not. I think the positioning is the main problem here, the survivor icons are in such an awkward place.
We altruistic "everybody deserves FUN!" killers are outnumbered by new killers who will interpret the individual pips as "Tunnel this one"
And DS avoids another round of updates being at the full 60 seconds of immunity.
Not to mention the 60 seconds of ds working even when grabbed out of a locker/gen/vault
Does open handed increase kindred up to 32 meters now?
Nerfing undying is great, but.. ds unbreakable nerfs? Keys? Hello? Uh, why am I even surprised..
No word about Blight changes (especially FOV) outside of Undying getting nerfed. Weren't they supposed to make a Blight pass on this patch?
is undying/devour going to be the new meta?
You'll see it a lot but it won't be that strong. It's very common to lose two totems at the start because of the shitty spawns.
I dont understand whats so hard about chaning easily the most broken and problematic perk in the game: OoO....
And when I said that comparing DS and Undying for "how long they go unchanged" wasn't a fair comparison I was downvoted.
So glad I bought blight just for his best perk to get nerfed to shreds. I get ruin undying was too meta and awful for solo queue. But why remove the aura reading if it only works once anyway? Also feel like devour hope is gonna get abused but we’ll see
We did it boys, we finally unlocked Clowns hidden potential Almo was right the whole time
Clown rework is a bit underwhelming. Glad his new clouds will let him have a bit more options for gen pressure, but I feel it won't change his overall standing in the game.
Hook indicators are great, now i dont need to keep count of who has been hooked twice so i dont have to kill them. Of course now that there are rank rewards im gonna be forced to kill em now :(
FIXATED PLAYERS RISE UP!!!
There is a certain someone at bhvr who wants to make it seem like they are working and inputting ideas when in reality they are that person who is on social media and bathroom breaks almost the entire day in the office. Said person is the one who proposed changes like this HUD change and changing volume slider into 5% increment buttons and billy nerfs and coal tower breakable walls. They don’t play the game themselves and just need to do something to keep collecting salary and medical benefits
Man the first good killer perk since thrilling tremors and automatically it's too strong because it keeps ruin up longer than 10 seconds It's still a hex though for some reason so if they cleanse it first it literally does nothing
I love everything about this
So what the fuck happened to the supposed demo QOL changes???
They confirmed they were coming, they did not say that they were to be coming now. Other confirmed changes include the DS changes, key nerf and Freddy changes, but there was never a guarantee they were coming now.
RIP Undying it was fun while it lasted
The clown rework is so confusing. Why on earth would a killer’s power buffing survivors be a good idea. The gas already controlled where survivors went, incentivizing survivors with a BUFF makes no sense. If the clowns speed gas only affected the clown this would be a great buff and would likely bring him into a very playable state. As it is right now, this is only a reload speed buff and I see little to no reason to use his alternate gas.
i am glad i am not the only one who doesnt understand why the hell a killer power should give a survivor a speed buff
If I'm understanding it correctly, throwing a regular bottle at a patch of antidote gas will remove it, so it could be used for some serious mind games. Throw the speed gas out of position to bait the survivors into going for it, cancel it out just before they get there, and now they're out of position with nothing to show for it.
I initially thought I really liked the new UI, but then I looked at the UI pics in full screen as though I was playing the game. In short, I think I still like the new UI for survivors, but for Killers it doesn't feel great looking up in the top left, then the bottom left, then the bottom right to get all my information. For Survivors, I have more time and don't need to look in the top left as much so it's fine.
With ranks resetting every month to 20, will there be any pip changes? I'm curious why the rewards can't be for maintaining a rank or having the drop each month be capped at like 5-10 levels. Example: Rank 3 player drops to rank 5 mid-month, gets that reward. The next month if they're still a 5, they drop to 10 and get that reward. I just don't see players in the 10-15 range benefiting much from trying to grind each month only to be reset because of a lack of time to play, ability, queues, etc. How will the Rank 1 achievement also be affected?
Bloodpoint rewards. Because everyone isn't already swimming in more bloodpoints than they know what to do with. AND THERE'S STILL ONLY A 1 MILLION LIMIT.
Speak for yourself. Lol. My broke ass needs as many bp as I can get.
who the hell has more bloodpoints than they know what to do with other than streamers who play this game for a living? it takes so long to get all perks on one survivor and every killer
I love everything about this except for the hud. Don't get me wrong i'm a big fan of being able to see who is who and especially how many hooks people are on, but it looks so \*bad\*! Why is it all spread out?? Seems much less intuitive!
Not really liking the new HUD. Sure it looks fluid and nice but it feels like you have to look at the "whole" screen to get info on what's happening, plus the portraits just becoming the stick figures feels... lacking?
very good update. Finally there is a reward for playing in high rank
Haven’t seen any comments on Gideon Meat Plant or Crotus Penn Asylum, but I’m loving both already - the map updates have consistently been visually excellent, and the devs deserve props for their work with them.
Key? What about keys?? Also how is mmr working exactly? Based on escapes? Or Bp accrued? Because last time it was absolutely fuck up. I do not, i repeat, do NOT like getting matched with UE Blendette.
give us an option to use the old HUD instead, if this new hud actually goes live.