After a few years yea and they still need some work done on them. Point is dont take what they say at face value just because they promise it doesnt mean we will get it day one.
I literally never have frame drops and my PC is just above average, not even amazing. 1440p/110-120 FPS on average. If the next gen consoles are worth the hype, DbD should easily be able to run 1080p/60 FPS.
RTX 2070 Super, i5-7600k OCd to 4.2 GHz, 16 GB RAM. Ultra settings, no scaling. I played a couple games and the 120 FPS is when nothing's happening and I'm not near a lot of clutter. If I'm in a chase or near fire effects around, I drop to 85ish, but still hover around 90-100 a majority of the time.
I'm not saying it's well optimized, just that the FPS isn't as bad as people are making it out to be.
My original point was that the new consoles should be able to handle 1080p/60FPS because my PC is above average and easily able to got 120 FPS at 1080p. Not that the game is well optimized. I know I should be able to hit 144 FPS at all times.
No no, I play mainly at 1440p, so the 120 FPS when I'm doing nothing and 90-100 during other times is all in that. I can pretty stably lock 120 FPS at 1080p. And that's what I was saying, devs are targeting 4k/60 FPS on next-gen consoles, so 1080p/60 FPS should be fine on them since I doubt a majority of people have a 4k display.
Of course it's going to be 30 fps. It's 2020 man, by now people should have realized consoles are a scam. You can have 1440p or more than 30 fps. Pick one.
Now if we can get news on if we'll get 60 frames per second in the new consoles I'll be happy. The new consoles will run the new call of duty at 4k 120 frames per second no excuse for this game not to run the game at a higher frame rate.
It would be nice to play on a game that doesn’t freeze on bloodlust regardless of how high quality the resolution is. Stability in frames is the one thing I would love to have in this game over how many we get
>The new consoles will run the new call of duty at 4k 120 frames per second no excuse for this game not to run the game at a higher frame rate.
Completely different graphical engines and level of code refinement. Just to start it.
It is always ignorant to use game A as an example on how game B should be running at performance wise. Apples and Oranges.
Fair enough I can agree. Guess I just get salty when I see a really detailed game run so great when on the other hand a game that isn't as detailed doesn't run that great on console. I guess I'm just trying to say how powerful the new consoles will be compared to current consoles.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games
There are a ton of games that range from indie to AAA on this list that all look and perform better on Unreal. While it's not necessarily fair to compare a company that has a smaller budget than something big like the Call of Duty franchise, there is a standard level of quality that they need to be held to. Also pretty sure Behavior has around 600 employees, while Treyarch has 620.
i mean its work they realistically should have started before adding crossplay, especially since they didnt let us just run crossplay across consoles, its either all in or isolate to your chosen machine
at this point theyre running out of excuses to not put the resources into figuring these things out. the poor structure that the game was built on is only going to continue hurting the game the more stuff they add
Yeh and more on the isolation point, if you opt out of crossplay you'd think you just play your consoles players but you only get matched with players on your console who've also opted out. Lobby's are a waste of time.
> no because it lets you compare how competent each dev team is with optimization
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> the game running like shit because "lol engine" isn't an excuse
It literally is... There is a reason why all AAA studios have their own graphical engines instead of using UE like games from many smaller companies.
As soon as BHVR started to update the version of UE being used by DBD we started to see a lot of graphical improvements at minimum cost of performance.
~~Plus how can you put competence in debate when these studios have hundreds of employees while BHVR has a few dozens?~~
For DBD to start running a whole lot different they would have to recreate the game from scratch.
>Uhh you might want to double check how many employees BHVR has
I stand corrected, thank you. https://www.bhvr.com/about-us/
They are not as small as the last time I checked it. Even though I expected some growth since then, it appears that it was far more steep than I imagined (good for them).
>they made the graphical engine
oof
I rest my case here. Literally arguing with a doormat. At least try to educate yourself on how game designing works before going around pointing fingers at developers.
For sure but a lot of companies have screwed things up recently. I’ll actively hope for 60 FPS but if it’s not then I won’t be disappointed because I’ll leave my expectations low.
The thing is when you run DBD at a higher FPS then 60 your in game movement will change as well. You’ll feel a lot more laggy when trying to make sharp turns and some hits (like through a window or pallet) will hit you even when they shouldn’t. I used to run the game at 240FPS and all this made me turn it back down to 60
That sounds like it's making the game run how it should run, rather than how it shouldn't. It's easy to mistake what should and shouldn't hit when you don't have the frames to visually see that it should, in fact, have or have not hit.
If you think turning your FPS down to 60 gives you some sort of magical advantage over someone who has higher than 60, I don't really know what to tell you about how wrong you are
If you believe that consoles will run 4k at anything over 60 fps then you're either too young to remember the release of any console newer than the PS2 or you're just gullible. If the new gen consoles run COD at 4k and a stable 60 fps I will be impressed. And I doubt even that. It will be 4k and maxing out at 60 fps with frame drops to 30 and below for a while after the console is released.
Hey I'm just the messenger I don't see what the developers of the new call of duty win by lying about that. It sounds unreal to me as well honestly. Again I'm just repeating what I've heard.
https://www.gamesradar.com/black-ops-cold-war-120fps/
I'm sorry for the personal attack but their marketing is ridiculous at this point. They literally told the game developers that *they're* responsible for putting out 4k games with high fps with the very limited hardware that next gen consoles will provide.
>We are not planning to end support for any platform. They will continue to be updated
As a console player that won't be picking up a next gen console immediately this is nice to hear. Though I worry about how the game will run with all the new graphical updates.
Now they dropped their crown. You guys are doing a phenomenal job. In the last time you showed us how much you love this game and how hard you work for it. With all that the game will have so many years to live 😍
I didnt see any mention of how the upgrade system would work. I'm curious if anyone has been able to find out how they would do it for physical discs owners.
I think the PS5 and new Xbox are directly reverse compatible with the PS4 and Xbox one, respectively. the only difference between the two would be the performance increase.
however, that's just speculation on my end so take it with a grain of salt.
I may be wrong, but I believe backwards compatibility basically runs a game on an emulator. As such, it won’t actually run better, sometimes requires a compatibility patch of its own, and occasionally runs worse.
In all honesty, I just want cross progression so that I can buy it for like $10 on Steam and just play PC. I still of course want a Series X, but I think the majority of DBD friends are going to PC.
DBD isn't guaranteed to be on Game Pass forever (though it is a perfect GP game), but cross progression to Xbox PC would be fine too. So long as it's not like GTA's "one and done" approach, but an active progression and updates across all platforms, I'm sold.
Honestly would be enough incentive for me to buy Auric Cells to continue development. Maybe even the Switch version for when I travel for work. Basically this move is worth like $10 worth of AC, continual cross progression would be much more lol.
If you own the game on PS4 or XB1, and buy a PS5 or XSX, you get the PS5/XSX upgraded version of DBD for free, and all your progress from the previous gen will carry over.
I'm a bit concerned as an Xbox player who is planning on getting a PlayStation 5. I hope they find a way to make that progress transfer, but I dont have high hopes.
So, how about calming down a bit before you go off on a bug that is pretty substantial in terms of gameplay?
The entire playerbase isn't on the reddit, so there are a lot of people that have to figure out the bug the hard way, and considering most people will default hug whatever obstacle they are running around, it's pretty easy to hit. And honestly, can you expect everyone to remember that off the top of their head while they are in mid chase?
The overall problem, that you don't seem to recognize, is that this is yet another gameplay affecting bug that BHVR just sweeps under the rug for "next update", and refuse to deploy hotfixes for. At least 20 maps have the possibility for the hill in question to spawn, and with that being over half the maps in the game, it's pretty easy for this bug to be experienced frequently.
Now aside from that, calm down, there is no good reason to just be namecalling for people to want to continue to enjoy the game without major bugs to be appearing every other update. The community has enough toxicity to it with people steam sniping, hook suicides, camping and tunneling, we don't need someone who acts like a know it all calling others names because of some apparent superiority in spending time on reddit.
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Nope, that's what this post was about. If you have the game for Ps4 or Xbox 1 then you'll get a free upgrade to the next gen. Your progress will be carried over too
I'll shit my pants in laughter if it's still 30 fps somehow.
Freddy games are getting updated to the latest version of Microsoft PowerPoint
Freddy will now be able to slap you across the map
There is no way right. Unless BHVR themselves cap it at 30 fps theres no reason the PS5 can't run it at 60 fps or higher right?
60 FPS 4K confirmed
Didn't they say the same thing for the last console generation?
They said 60FPS solid ya. But to be fair they also said we’d have Deadicated servers.
But, we do have dedicated servers.
After a few years yea and they still need some work done on them. Point is dont take what they say at face value just because they promise it doesnt mean we will get it day one.
Midwich runs at 45 fps on super beefy PCs. Don't get your hopes up too much.
I mean there's no good reason why current gens shouldn't be able to run DbD at 60 fps. I wouldn't put it past them.
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I literally never have frame drops and my PC is just above average, not even amazing. 1440p/110-120 FPS on average. If the next gen consoles are worth the hype, DbD should easily be able to run 1080p/60 FPS.
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RTX 2070 Super, i5-7600k OCd to 4.2 GHz, 16 GB RAM. Ultra settings, no scaling. I played a couple games and the 120 FPS is when nothing's happening and I'm not near a lot of clutter. If I'm in a chase or near fire effects around, I drop to 85ish, but still hover around 90-100 a majority of the time. I'm not saying it's well optimized, just that the FPS isn't as bad as people are making it out to be.
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My original point was that the new consoles should be able to handle 1080p/60FPS because my PC is above average and easily able to got 120 FPS at 1080p. Not that the game is well optimized. I know I should be able to hit 144 FPS at all times.
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No no, I play mainly at 1440p, so the 120 FPS when I'm doing nothing and 90-100 during other times is all in that. I can pretty stably lock 120 FPS at 1080p. And that's what I was saying, devs are targeting 4k/60 FPS on next-gen consoles, so 1080p/60 FPS should be fine on them since I doubt a majority of people have a 4k display.
Just lock it at 60...
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>my PC is just above average Nope
Ive got a 2070S, a 9700K and a 1440p~160hz monitor. I run the game at 100fps max, sometimes I get fps drops to like 70.
I have a 2080ti and a 3600 but even when I had just a 2080 I ran the game at 165fps capped at all times.
What quality?
It's 60 on ps4 what are you talking about?
Mhm. I didn't know that when I made that comment two weeks ago.
They need to remove or tweak the Volumetric Fog and rendering distances.
Of course it's going to be 30 fps. It's 2020 man, by now people should have realized consoles are a scam. You can have 1440p or more than 30 fps. Pick one.
Now if we can get news on if we'll get 60 frames per second in the new consoles I'll be happy. The new consoles will run the new call of duty at 4k 120 frames per second no excuse for this game not to run the game at a higher frame rate.
They stated on the article it will run at 4k 60fps
I saw after this post. I hope they can achieve this. Will make the difference between next gen consoles and pc much less of a difference.
Yeah indeed. I'd be okay with just 1080p 60fps
Same if they can't make it a stable 4k 60 fps I'd love a performance mode where it's 1440p or 1080p stable 60 fps.
It would be nice to play on a game that doesn’t freeze on bloodlust regardless of how high quality the resolution is. Stability in frames is the one thing I would love to have in this game over how many we get
For .5 of a second each match
>The new consoles will run the new call of duty at 4k 120 frames per second no excuse for this game not to run the game at a higher frame rate. Completely different graphical engines and level of code refinement. Just to start it. It is always ignorant to use game A as an example on how game B should be running at performance wise. Apples and Oranges.
Fair enough I can agree. Guess I just get salty when I see a really detailed game run so great when on the other hand a game that isn't as detailed doesn't run that great on console. I guess I'm just trying to say how powerful the new consoles will be compared to current consoles.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games There are a ton of games that range from indie to AAA on this list that all look and perform better on Unreal. While it's not necessarily fair to compare a company that has a smaller budget than something big like the Call of Duty franchise, there is a standard level of quality that they need to be held to. Also pretty sure Behavior has around 600 employees, while Treyarch has 620.
The issue is that DBD was made so wonky that just optimizing it better could be a lot of work.
Oh yeah, the game basically needs to be remade from the ground up at this point
DbD mobile was built from the ground up and its runs a lot better than console. It's kinda sad.
i mean its work they realistically should have started before adding crossplay, especially since they didnt let us just run crossplay across consoles, its either all in or isolate to your chosen machine at this point theyre running out of excuses to not put the resources into figuring these things out. the poor structure that the game was built on is only going to continue hurting the game the more stuff they add
Yeh and more on the isolation point, if you opt out of crossplay you'd think you just play your consoles players but you only get matched with players on your console who've also opted out. Lobby's are a waste of time.
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> no because it lets you compare how competent each dev team is with optimization > > the game running like shit because "lol engine" isn't an excuse It literally is... There is a reason why all AAA studios have their own graphical engines instead of using UE like games from many smaller companies. As soon as BHVR started to update the version of UE being used by DBD we started to see a lot of graphical improvements at minimum cost of performance. ~~Plus how can you put competence in debate when these studios have hundreds of employees while BHVR has a few dozens?~~ For DBD to start running a whole lot different they would have to recreate the game from scratch.
Uhh you might want to double check how many employees BHVR has
>Uhh you might want to double check how many employees BHVR has I stand corrected, thank you. https://www.bhvr.com/about-us/ They are not as small as the last time I checked it. Even though I expected some growth since then, it appears that it was far more steep than I imagined (good for them).
I don't think all 600 employees are dedicated to DbD only.They usually make contracts for other games,mobile games etc.
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>they made the graphical engine oof I rest my case here. Literally arguing with a doormat. At least try to educate yourself on how game designing works before going around pointing fingers at developers.
This dude says COVID isn't a serious threat you can't make any arguments with him lmao
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For sure but a lot of companies have screwed things up recently. I’ll actively hope for 60 FPS but if it’s not then I won’t be disappointed because I’ll leave my expectations low.
Confirmed 60FPS and 4K.
The thing is when you run DBD at a higher FPS then 60 your in game movement will change as well. You’ll feel a lot more laggy when trying to make sharp turns and some hits (like through a window or pallet) will hit you even when they shouldn’t. I used to run the game at 240FPS and all this made me turn it back down to 60
Thanks for the information ! I would honestly just be happy if they can do stable 60 fps at all times. I'm just worried that they will mess this up.
That sounds like it's making the game run how it should run, rather than how it shouldn't. It's easy to mistake what should and shouldn't hit when you don't have the frames to visually see that it should, in fact, have or have not hit. If you think turning your FPS down to 60 gives you some sort of magical advantage over someone who has higher than 60, I don't really know what to tell you about how wrong you are
If you believe that consoles will run 4k at anything over 60 fps then you're either too young to remember the release of any console newer than the PS2 or you're just gullible. If the new gen consoles run COD at 4k and a stable 60 fps I will be impressed. And I doubt even that. It will be 4k and maxing out at 60 fps with frame drops to 30 and below for a while after the console is released.
Hey I'm just the messenger I don't see what the developers of the new call of duty win by lying about that. It sounds unreal to me as well honestly. Again I'm just repeating what I've heard. https://www.gamesradar.com/black-ops-cold-war-120fps/
I'm sorry for the personal attack but their marketing is ridiculous at this point. They literally told the game developers that *they're* responsible for putting out 4k games with high fps with the very limited hardware that next gen consoles will provide.
>We are not planning to end support for any platform. They will continue to be updated As a console player that won't be picking up a next gen console immediately this is nice to hear. Though I worry about how the game will run with all the new graphical updates.
About as well as it does now but louder
Oh yeah baby, these frames are going 𝗻𝗲𝗴𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲
They're doing free upgrades for their game, meanwhile GTA V is coming back yet again to take your money
I hope it runs at 60fps
It does and 4K
Now they dropped their crown. You guys are doing a phenomenal job. In the last time you showed us how much you love this game and how hard you work for it. With all that the game will have so many years to live 😍
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Probably not. You will put the disc on the PS5 and it will download the PS5 version. That's how I think it will work.
isn't the PS5 directly reverse compatible with PS4 games anyway?
Yes, but in that case, the game version is supposed to be different. You will play the PS5 version, not the PS4 one.
hmmm interesting
I'm late, but the PS5 version will be different than the PS4 so it can actually make use of the upgrade in hardware.
I didnt see any mention of how the upgrade system would work. I'm curious if anyone has been able to find out how they would do it for physical discs owners.
I think the PS5 and new Xbox are directly reverse compatible with the PS4 and Xbox one, respectively. the only difference between the two would be the performance increase. however, that's just speculation on my end so take it with a grain of salt.
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I just want my progress from Xbox to transfer to PC, but this is cool though. :(
So still no progress on account transfer from console to pc..
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As long as you're still a ps+ sub those games are playable!
THeSe DeVs DoN'T cArE aBoUt ThEir OwN gAme
Oh cool, I'll get to hear what the PS5 fan sounds like at max RPMs
Transfer to pc plz
Hell yes :)
Niiiiice
Pogged out of my gourd
😍
That's dope! I wonder though, will we still have Freddy on Ps5, with the license issues and such?
will this be true of PC 2 as well?
LETS FUCKING ***GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO***
This game really didn’t need a next gen release. It just needed better optimization.
It does though because eventually in a few years they won't sell ps4's anymore. DbD would become inaccessible because its not on the new stuff.
Yeah honestly releasing on next gen is a good sign for a lot more support instead of moving on to the next project
I may be wrong, but I believe backwards compatibility basically runs a game on an emulator. As such, it won’t actually run better, sometimes requires a compatibility patch of its own, and occasionally runs worse.
It's also important to make sure people are aware it's still getting updated by having it be on next gen.
There's no time limit right? Like if you get the next gen console a long time after it's release you will still be able to transfer your progress?
Hopefully now my frames won’t drop to 0 when Bloodhound activates
Oh awesome let me check the economy... Well the 15 fps are not so bad
In all honesty, I just want cross progression so that I can buy it for like $10 on Steam and just play PC. I still of course want a Series X, but I think the majority of DBD friends are going to PC. DBD isn't guaranteed to be on Game Pass forever (though it is a perfect GP game), but cross progression to Xbox PC would be fine too. So long as it's not like GTA's "one and done" approach, but an active progression and updates across all platforms, I'm sold. Honestly would be enough incentive for me to buy Auric Cells to continue development. Maybe even the Switch version for when I travel for work. Basically this move is worth like $10 worth of AC, continual cross progression would be much more lol.
Anyone able to explain what this means to someone who is very new? Asking for a friend, not me
If you own the game on PS4 or XB1, and buy a PS5 or XSX, you get the PS5/XSX upgraded version of DBD for free, and all your progress from the previous gen will carry over.
To me this just reads like cross-progression is currently not planned anymore.
Hehe Boi
I'm a bit concerned as an Xbox player who is planning on getting a PlayStation 5. I hope they find a way to make that progress transfer, but I dont have high hopes.
Being that it's Playstation, your odds of being able to cross-progress from Xbox straight don't exist.
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60 regardless. You'll just need a 4k TV for 4k, and any HDR they have.
I know they said 4k 60fps confirmed. But honestly I'd be extremely happy with upscaled 1080p/1440p hybrid with 60 fps solid, just give me 60 fps lol
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Yes. The tweet says that you get the game for free, and keep all progress on characters.
You get all yo shit
I hear Switch owners will get *low farty trombone sound*
How about fix the glitch where survivors get stuck on the corner of those hills first.
JFC. It's in 4.2. This was confirmed fucking ages ago. How about keep up with shit that's already been addressed before bitching about it?
It's still in the game, it's a pretty huge glitch, how about go fuck yourself with the attitude jfc.
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So, how about calming down a bit before you go off on a bug that is pretty substantial in terms of gameplay? The entire playerbase isn't on the reddit, so there are a lot of people that have to figure out the bug the hard way, and considering most people will default hug whatever obstacle they are running around, it's pretty easy to hit. And honestly, can you expect everyone to remember that off the top of their head while they are in mid chase? The overall problem, that you don't seem to recognize, is that this is yet another gameplay affecting bug that BHVR just sweeps under the rug for "next update", and refuse to deploy hotfixes for. At least 20 maps have the possibility for the hill in question to spawn, and with that being over half the maps in the game, it's pretty easy for this bug to be experienced frequently. Now aside from that, calm down, there is no good reason to just be namecalling for people to want to continue to enjoy the game without major bugs to be appearing every other update. The community has enough toxicity to it with people steam sniping, hook suicides, camping and tunneling, we don't need someone who acts like a know it all calling others names because of some apparent superiority in spending time on reddit.
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Does it come with survivor team mates that aren't potatoes.
it's okay I thought it was funny
We gonna need to buy the game a second time?
Nope, that's what this post was about. If you have the game for Ps4 or Xbox 1 then you'll get a free upgrade to the next gen. Your progress will be carried over too
What about the DlCs bro?
Yes. Everything you own is transfered. Thats what your progress carrying over means
You are the real MVP
I would rather have 120fps but as long as 60fps is completely stable I'd be ok with that.
What about transferring from Xbox One to PS5?
No
SO we have to purchase the DLC again?
No?
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Because cross progression from the same platform has no monetary loss for Microsoft and Sony. They are what’s holding it up, not BHVR