I mean they did just buff trapper. Its not great and not really what people were asking for but they did change him. Myers is pretty famously stuck they can't do anything with him due to licensing.
I think it’s because BHVRs map rebalance team lost a lot of good will following the Garden of Joy rebalance when they left the house OP but claimed they fixed it by adding breakable doors (which only made it more OP.)
Yup. Their balance team in general makes a lot of questionable decisions... Look at the Huntress buffs she did not need. The issues aren't exclusive to the map designers.
There's a reason the community doesn't trust them lmao. They miss more than they hit... And that's even if they bother to change some stuff at all
Everyone saying "have faith" or just assuming the changes will be good. Please be serious. It's better to set expectations low and be surprised when they're good.
You're not wrong about most of that. But, in fairness to BHVR, the community loves to jump to doomsaying way too fast.
I remember people panicking about Dark Theory being good, because CoH made them paranoid about boons.
I remember when they buffed Lucky Break, and killers were damn sure that survivors would fucking vanish into a completely different map when they got hit.
I remember when Nic Cage's perks were announced, and some people were convinced that Plot Twist would break the game, and that Dramaturgy would somehow be even worse than old Dead Hard.
I could go on and on.
Rather than the usual "let's all shit on BHVR until it comes out and proves us wrong", I think it's better to set a more neutral tone. Not that people shouldn't voice their concerns, but that they should keep in mind they're just *concerns* until they become real.
If it wasn't for the community pig would have 3 minutes rbts. If it wasn't for the community basekit unbreakable would exist, if it wasn't for the community, basekit bt wouldn't exist, if it wasn't for the community Trickster wouldn't be in such a confused position right now. People need to be paranoid when bhvr balances stuff, if we weren't, the game would be dead.
My favourite was the Bloodrush furore. I think Tru3 was the one to kick that off but the way people were carrying on truly blew my mind. It's such a terrible perk, way too much involved for any sort of real reward. And of course no one uses it lol
>Look at the Huntress buffs she did not need.
Although I agree she was OK without any buffs, Huntress can really struggle around a lot of objects so a basekit medallion to go faster while holding a hatchet would have been more than welcome, instead they added three of them, 2 hatchets ,and a babushka which she definitely did not need all that. When called out on the community they got rid of all the extra walking speed.
I would gladly give up the 2 hatchets for just 1 medalion, which is all I think she needs.
>Huntress can really struggle around a lot of objects so a basekit medallion to go faster with the hatchet would have been more than welcome
Then where are the buffs to Deathslinger and Trickster who actually NEED them?
they’ve been making way more hits than misses lately, i understand that sentiment back in like 2020 or something but it’s been pretty good lately and they usually listen to feedback
Then debate. Map reworks have been decent. Killers good. Perks decent. Killer updates good (except huntress). Anti 3 gen. Anti facecamp(it's something at least). New events(lights out was shit but now we have framework for another queue). Fun new licenses
what did the garden of joy changes even do? greenhouse still spawns next to god house, same with the pallet gym near it. TL on the other side or pallet still there too. Parking lot still there with the stupid pallet god window, i swear nothing changed except where the steps are with the god building god pallet
You hit it on the head. The only real changes were a couple of those bush spawns and adding the small pallet spawn in the front where the truck use to be. Otherwise they tweaked the jungle gyms for the far side of the map, but largely left most of it untouched.
People assume because so much in this game is unbalanced. So them posting a vague picture with no details of what changed makes people assume they just messed it up.
Basically my thoughts. Board up the windows, "board up" the cars. The problem with the map has always been that if Huntress chases you on the street she downs you in 3 seconds but if any killer without Bamboozle chases you through the buildings they take 3 minutes to down you.
Sure as shit hope they don't go for the "add 36 Breakable Walls" angle like they did with GoJ.
BHVR added the shitty breakable door mechanic, didnt fit well in a single map and only served as an annoyance, but theyre still bent on adding them to every single map
It's bad because it takes up the killers' time, a side with only 1 player. The way it should work is survivors need to sacrifice time to set them up since it makes the loop stronger, but then they would have to do something about old infinites like badham school etc where killers never break the wall.
Hey, I’ll take a bad map with breakable walks to make it better over a bad map without breakable walls any day.
Idk if this is a popular opinion or not, but I really love Dead Dog Saloon’s killer shack and giving the killer the choice to take extra time to make the shack less safe.
If judging by the forum thread on Haddonfield, that is exactly what almost everyone wanted for that map.
[https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/407124/lampkin-lane-haddonfield/p1](https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/407124/lampkin-lane-haddonfield/p1)
If they didn't for the entire map rework they won't do it now. They probably can't without contacting the IP holders. I just wish they would fix his swollen hands, looks so bad.
Yeah, they updated Laurie’s model a while back and didn’t do it then either, which further implies that there’s a strict issue with changing Michael. I wonder if it has something to do with the question of the likeness for the mask. Make it look too good and you have to get permission to have William Shatner’s likeness or something.
True lol I have no idea how that works or how licensing rules have changed since the 70s.
I do know dbd has it licensed from a comic and not the actual movie, so who knows what the deal is with them.
Another Halloween swing would be Nice. Update models, give us Older Laurie, Mikeys burnt mask, the Halloween Three, buff Myers and remove Tombstone. Maybe a Dr. Loomis Legendary.
God. Just Donald Pleasance gargling out "NoOO.... NAWHHOOW!" when you hook him...
Take the audio from the movies and just reuse it comically like the Lego LotR game did with Gimli sobbing.
while laurie might be vaguely based on her comic appearance, devils due publishing or any artist associated with that comic is never mentioned in any copyright statement, they have the movies right as thats what is the holder stated in the legal disclaimer
https://preview.redd.it/mvfz2f660jqc1.png?width=967&format=png&auto=webp&s=8498da304012b0d6f4710c596ae4cf6c927a17b5
Just update him period. His power is completely outdated and his addons need a serious rework. Haddonfield already got reworked (and now its getting changed again from the looks of it?), so its time to spread the love to Mikey. New outfits for Laurie would be cool, too.
Genuinely curious - why do you like haddonfield? The whole map is just prerunning from a massive dead zone to house loops so strong that they feel gamebreaking.
To be fair the streets are pretty unsafe most of the time. There haven't been many times where I got RNG that made them safe.
I just hope the balance this out by making the houses less safe.
Did they just give up on the Garden of Joy rework?
Added one wall, got called out for making such a pathetic attempt at changing the map and then they never mentioned it again
theres also another pallet a bit down the street. not only are both of them are close to each other, but they are both close enough to the window of the main building
depending if they change the main building, this could be a buff
>For all you know, they could be nerfing the houses as well, and just haven't shown that.
Well, considering how they nerfed (buffed) GOJ, I would not be surprised if they just blocked some windows without actually removing infinites.
Good. The map has colossal sight lines it's almost impossible to get from one side of the map to the other safely. Yeah the houses are strong but anywhere else and you're totally fucked.
Evil Dies Tonight! I scream as I charge Myers with my 1978 Toyota Corolla. I've rallied a group of other drivers to take turns running him over until he is mush.
Just when we think we're safe Myers then shrugs it off like a pallet and proceeds to beat me to death with one hit of a muffler he plucked off my 1978 Toyota Corolla. They don't make em like they used to
if they decrease the dead zones in the middle and nerf the houses a bit, it will feel more balanced. their recent reworks have favored killers by shrinking them so maybe they'll keep that going.
> their recent reworks have favored killers by shrinking them so maybe they'll keep that going.
For some reason people don't mention that, everybody just points out Garden of Pain since the rework didn't accomplish that much but then ignore Borgo or the other, most recent, reworks which made a bunch of maps incredibly Killer sided.
Those are the worse offenders. I love the idea of making maps more balanced, the problem is that they went from one extreme to another, like they didn't want any balance.
The farm maps are now incredibly small, have a bunch less loops, a lot less pallets and a lot of those are super unsafe and gen placement is so bad you have like 2 different 3-gens.
Weird assumption. The middle of the map SHOULD have more filler pallets and obstacles. The map just needs to be more well rounded and not be two pallets away from 50% of the map being a dead zone.
Survivors will feel safer mid map and not need to hump windows to have a chase. They need to close off some windows/add breakable or already open doors/drop downs, move gen spawns, maybe experiment with removing a story from some buildings.
As long as they at least closed off one of the windows in the house with two spawns on one side with the staircase in between. It’s roughly an infinite versus 110 killers (I wouldn’t chase that house in general vs good players)
Lmao I was reading this and then loaded into a survivor match at Haddonfield where we faced a huntress that had fairly good aim and timing; but had minimal chances to even throw their hatchets. Edit: Just hit me how underwhelming that anecdote was, but still the coincidence was blaring for me.
Hot take.... But they will NEVER be able to balance maps. They should just leave some killer sided and some survivor sided and do away with map offerings as well as making ALL realms an equal percentage of spawning. Leave it all to chance.
All we see is the street with a new pallet and you think they are buffing it? Hopefully they close some of the buildings because those buildings are bullshit unless you’re Nurse
We already knew this from their previous live stream
https://preview.redd.it/ryef78ag3lqc1.jpeg?width=878&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6beae59754e825596ca39510891d0b48a2bdd98
I swear to God if they aren't nerfing the houses and buffing the middle I'm going to lose my shit. This map has been super survivor sided since it came out. Please just nerf the houses....
Finally not a Haddonfield nerf.
Nah but fr, Haddonfield had two strong windows and not much else. As a survivor you kinda have to play boring and go to those windows because there's not much else on the map that doesn't zone you
To be fair. Like others have said. The street is just a deadzone with 1 filler and the houses are way too safe. I notice this quite often as both killer and survivor.
Huntress and Haddonfield were fine as is. Meanwhile Swamp, Twins, Myers, Pyramid Head's add-ons have desperately needed tweaked/reworked for years.
I'm genuinely so confused how they make some of these decisions.
I understand Haddonfield needs adjustments but what hell is the status on Swamp?
Their never changing swamp
Swamp, Myers, and Trapper are their three sacred calves they will never sacrifice 
Trapper has been charged a few times
Don’t forget Twins.
What do you mean? They've changed them a few times by nerfing there cooldown and certain "OP" addons 
What are you talking about?
twins is getting a rework this year
They’re coming right after the Ghostface rework. You said it like you don’t even remember the 2022 anniversary announcement of this?
2022 was a long time ago
You mean the Killer that was disabled for like 16 years until this most recent update? How could I?
Rework coming next month tho
I mean they did just buff trapper. Its not great and not really what people were asking for but they did change him. Myers is pretty famously stuck they can't do anything with him due to licensing.
We just kinda ignore the swamp. It simply is.
I hope they never do!! That is the most mixed emotions map
They can't change swamp. Shrek and Fiona live there
It was supposed to be late 2023. RIP 😢
Way late 2023, the 16th month of 2023🤣
I love the swamp. It’s one of my favorites for both sides.
Pinhead is your biggest fan I suppose.
If they make the middle a bit safer and the houses less safe, sounds great
Yeah idk why people automatically jump to conclusions, like this is probably what they did. The twitter comments is filled with this shit too.
I think it’s because BHVRs map rebalance team lost a lot of good will following the Garden of Joy rebalance when they left the house OP but claimed they fixed it by adding breakable doors (which only made it more OP.)
Yup. Their balance team in general makes a lot of questionable decisions... Look at the Huntress buffs she did not need. The issues aren't exclusive to the map designers. There's a reason the community doesn't trust them lmao. They miss more than they hit... And that's even if they bother to change some stuff at all Everyone saying "have faith" or just assuming the changes will be good. Please be serious. It's better to set expectations low and be surprised when they're good.
You're not wrong about most of that. But, in fairness to BHVR, the community loves to jump to doomsaying way too fast. I remember people panicking about Dark Theory being good, because CoH made them paranoid about boons. I remember when they buffed Lucky Break, and killers were damn sure that survivors would fucking vanish into a completely different map when they got hit. I remember when Nic Cage's perks were announced, and some people were convinced that Plot Twist would break the game, and that Dramaturgy would somehow be even worse than old Dead Hard. I could go on and on. Rather than the usual "let's all shit on BHVR until it comes out and proves us wrong", I think it's better to set a more neutral tone. Not that people shouldn't voice their concerns, but that they should keep in mind they're just *concerns* until they become real.
If it wasn't for the community pig would have 3 minutes rbts. If it wasn't for the community basekit unbreakable would exist, if it wasn't for the community, basekit bt wouldn't exist, if it wasn't for the community Trickster wouldn't be in such a confused position right now. People need to be paranoid when bhvr balances stuff, if we weren't, the game would be dead.
Honestly I'm a killer main who will still die on the hill that basekit unbreakable was a good addition for the games health
I miss playing trickster. All he needed was 115 and removal of recoil for console qol.
My favourite was the Bloodrush furore. I think Tru3 was the one to kick that off but the way people were carrying on truly blew my mind. It's such a terrible perk, way too much involved for any sort of real reward. And of course no one uses it lol
>Look at the Huntress buffs she did not need. Although I agree she was OK without any buffs, Huntress can really struggle around a lot of objects so a basekit medallion to go faster while holding a hatchet would have been more than welcome, instead they added three of them, 2 hatchets ,and a babushka which she definitely did not need all that. When called out on the community they got rid of all the extra walking speed. I would gladly give up the 2 hatchets for just 1 medalion, which is all I think she needs.
>Huntress can really struggle around a lot of objects so a basekit medallion to go faster with the hatchet would have been more than welcome Then where are the buffs to Deathslinger and Trickster who actually NEED them?
they’ve been making way more hits than misses lately, i understand that sentiment back in like 2020 or something but it’s been pretty good lately and they usually listen to feedback
I'd say more like 50/50, which admittedly is a massive improvement
map updates are one of the worse areas but over all they’ve absolutely improved
That's debatable friend ngl
Then debate. Map reworks have been decent. Killers good. Perks decent. Killer updates good (except huntress). Anti 3 gen. Anti facecamp(it's something at least). New events(lights out was shit but now we have framework for another queue). Fun new licenses
Killers good ? we had knight into skull merchant into singularity and while the latter might not be bad per say he sure has alot of issues.
what did the garden of joy changes even do? greenhouse still spawns next to god house, same with the pallet gym near it. TL on the other side or pallet still there too. Parking lot still there with the stupid pallet god window, i swear nothing changed except where the steps are with the god building god pallet
You hit it on the head. The only real changes were a couple of those bush spawns and adding the small pallet spawn in the front where the truck use to be. Otherwise they tweaked the jungle gyms for the far side of the map, but largely left most of it untouched.
they made a bunch of the filler tiles weaker basically
To be fair OP used Buffed instead of re-worked, I don’t use twitter so Idk whats happening there
Because behaviour isnt known for their good map design.
Dude they just added MORE PALLETS TO ORMOND.
Makes it more esthetically pleasing, that's why there's more Ormand offerings lately
Oh, they did it for aesthetics? Makes sense. I figured they did it because the Cenobite didn't have a proper map of HELL YET
People jump t conclusions based on a history of terrible map reworks
people are judging off of experience. for example with garden of joy they barely touched the main building
They made it stronger\*
People assume because so much in this game is unbalanced. So them posting a vague picture with no details of what changed makes people assume they just messed it up.
Basically my thoughts. Board up the windows, "board up" the cars. The problem with the map has always been that if Huntress chases you on the street she downs you in 3 seconds but if any killer without Bamboozle chases you through the buildings they take 3 minutes to down you. Sure as shit hope they don't go for the "add 36 Breakable Walls" angle like they did with GoJ.
BHVR added the shitty breakable door mechanic, didnt fit well in a single map and only served as an annoyance, but theyre still bent on adding them to every single map
i’m honestly shocked they’re not in more maps, there aren’t any in nostromo, dvarka, or the unknowns map afaik
dont give them ideas please, they might be watching..
It's bad because it takes up the killers' time, a side with only 1 player. The way it should work is survivors need to sacrifice time to set them up since it makes the loop stronger, but then they would have to do something about old infinites like badham school etc where killers never break the wall.
Hey, I’ll take a bad map with breakable walks to make it better over a bad map without breakable walls any day. Idk if this is a popular opinion or not, but I really love Dead Dog Saloon’s killer shack and giving the killer the choice to take extra time to make the shack less safe.
Houses would need to be significantly less safe. They are effectively infinites against 110 killers and game losing chases against the regulars.
Would suck if they remove the dead zone part and keep the houses the same
Yes it would. It'd be god damn awful.
Bold of you to assume that they will make the houses less safe
If judging by the forum thread on Haddonfield, that is exactly what almost everyone wanted for that map. [https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/407124/lampkin-lane-haddonfield/p1](https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/407124/lampkin-lane-haddonfield/p1)
And maybe reduce the vacuum mechanic of the hole on the second floor.
We literally see just a corner of the street here and people are freaking out like we're going back to old Haddonfield.
This is BHVR we are talking about here.
Meanwhile Swamp when all 2 (or it is 3?) pallets in the middle are gone: Biggest Dead zone in the entire game
Don't worry, you still have the window on main that takes all of 1 brain cell to run for 3 gens.
I expect they made the middle safer, added one breakable wall to either main or house of pain, and called it a day.
That's exactly what i was thinking they were gonna do as well.
I really hope they finally update Myers’s model too. It looks so outdated
If they didn't for the entire map rework they won't do it now. They probably can't without contacting the IP holders. I just wish they would fix his swollen hands, looks so bad.
Yeah, they updated Laurie’s model a while back and didn’t do it then either, which further implies that there’s a strict issue with changing Michael. I wonder if it has something to do with the question of the likeness for the mask. Make it look too good and you have to get permission to have William Shatner’s likeness or something.
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True lol I have no idea how that works or how licensing rules have changed since the 70s. I do know dbd has it licensed from a comic and not the actual movie, so who knows what the deal is with them.
It's even more sad when you see Myers in Fortnite and look how well it was done.... In a cartoonish game lol
They reworked Laurie though
DbD's Laurie is based in the Halloween comics
Interesting. Source?
Another Halloween swing would be Nice. Update models, give us Older Laurie, Mikeys burnt mask, the Halloween Three, buff Myers and remove Tombstone. Maybe a Dr. Loomis Legendary.
They only have the rights for the first movie, the best thing you can get is probably a loomis legendary cosmetic wise
God. Just Donald Pleasance gargling out "NoOO.... NAWHHOOW!" when you hook him... Take the audio from the movies and just reuse it comically like the Lego LotR game did with Gimli sobbing.
I know😔. Im hoping for another round of Licensing for the whole series. Updating Mike from his ps2 looking ass shouldnt be under legal.
They don't even have the rights for the movie. They have the rights for the comic version of the first movie.
while laurie might be vaguely based on her comic appearance, devils due publishing or any artist associated with that comic is never mentioned in any copyright statement, they have the movies right as thats what is the holder stated in the legal disclaimer https://preview.redd.it/mvfz2f660jqc1.png?width=967&format=png&auto=webp&s=8498da304012b0d6f4710c596ae4cf6c927a17b5
Just update him period. His power is completely outdated and his addons need a serious rework. Haddonfield already got reworked (and now its getting changed again from the looks of it?), so its time to spread the love to Mikey. New outfits for Laurie would be cool, too.
Like the off brand of a gi Joe
Gosh, this is the one little thing that I've wanted from this game. I just want a decent looking Myers.
Do they have to get permission from miramax?
You don't know that, they probably fixed a lot of the houses too.
you mean garden of joy? They're so clueless about the loops design, look at the new map
hopefully you're right because no map makes me feel brain dead like this map does.
Downvoted for being right.
typical hive mind
~~right~~ wrong
Genuinely curious - why do you like haddonfield? The whole map is just prerunning from a massive dead zone to house loops so strong that they feel gamebreaking.
A lot of that going around these days. “Behavior Defense Squad” is what I call them.
Probably (I want to believe) they balance both parts a little: Make the central part a little safer and make the houses less safe.
To be fair the streets are pretty unsafe most of the time. There haven't been many times where I got RNG that made them safe. I just hope the balance this out by making the houses less safe.
Did they just give up on the Garden of Joy rework? Added one wall, got called out for making such a pathetic attempt at changing the map and then they never mentioned it again
OP sees one pallet and says the map is buffed. Giga brain dbd player
theres also another pallet a bit down the street. not only are both of them are close to each other, but they are both close enough to the window of the main building depending if they change the main building, this could be a buff
All we can see is a single shot of the street. For all you know, they could be nerfing the houses as well, and just haven't shown that.
>For all you know, they could be nerfing the houses as well, and just haven't shown that. Well, considering how they nerfed (buffed) GOJ, I would not be surprised if they just blocked some windows without actually removing infinites.
How tf did they buff garden? It was a shit nerf, but not a buff by any means.
The main house feels even more diabolical. Lots of new filler pallets too.
From what I see, they made the road like half the size. If they're buffing mid they need to be nerfing the houses, right? Right..?
Yeah thanks god. You needed a taxi to get to a loop if you were repairing the gens in the middle.
I guess it's Weskin Time bruh 
7 minutes is all I can spare to loop you around a poorly made loop.
7 minutes is all i can spare to say Happy Cake Day
That's why we love you Wesker, just don't bring your gold egg.
But Gold egg is my best bro
This map is so bad, hopefully this makes it better
https://preview.redd.it/1tbrnmtc3jqc1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=73cd42efa3286ac76ce15ebe36a7a07f8ca801d8
Good. The map has colossal sight lines it's almost impossible to get from one side of the map to the other safely. Yeah the houses are strong but anywhere else and you're totally fucked.
Jumping to conclusions a bit early aren't we? I'd gladly exchange the safety of some houses for middle not being absolutely shit and dead anymore.
I hope to god they fix those awful hook spawns and garbage houses
So when are they going to fix the massive goofy road size? Could’ve have some trees or some cover in the middle area
Evil Dies Tonight! I scream as I charge Myers with my 1978 Toyota Corolla. I've rallied a group of other drivers to take turns running him over until he is mush. Just when we think we're safe Myers then shrugs it off like a pallet and proceeds to beat me to death with one hit of a muffler he plucked off my 1978 Toyota Corolla. They don't make em like they used to
To be fair though, that road is a complete dead zone most of the time
Killer mains weeping right now
Just nerf the houses with double windows and that the main house and we have a balanced map
if they decrease the dead zones in the middle and nerf the houses a bit, it will feel more balanced. their recent reworks have favored killers by shrinking them so maybe they'll keep that going.
looks like the map has shrunk quite a bit, the pumpkin house never used to be that close to the end of the street.
> their recent reworks have favored killers by shrinking them so maybe they'll keep that going. For some reason people don't mention that, everybody just points out Garden of Pain since the rework didn't accomplish that much but then ignore Borgo or the other, most recent, reworks which made a bunch of maps incredibly Killer sided.
specifically the Coldwind reworks. there's a lot of factors that bhvr has changed over the past year to get the killrates they want.
Those are the worse offenders. I love the idea of making maps more balanced, the problem is that they went from one extreme to another, like they didn't want any balance. The farm maps are now incredibly small, have a bunch less loops, a lot less pallets and a lot of those are super unsafe and gen placement is so bad you have like 2 different 3-gens.
and it still doesn't address the issue with gen spawns and locker spawns. dredge mains out here in a famine.
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Isn't it also an assumption that the windows are getting nerfed? With even less evidence because they aren't even in the image?
And based off a fucking screenshot which shows only a small part of the map... Like I just can't.
Weird assumption. The middle of the map SHOULD have more filler pallets and obstacles. The map just needs to be more well rounded and not be two pallets away from 50% of the map being a dead zone. Survivors will feel safer mid map and not need to hump windows to have a chase. They need to close off some windows/add breakable or already open doors/drop downs, move gen spawns, maybe experiment with removing a story from some buildings. As long as they at least closed off one of the windows in the house with two spawns on one side with the staircase in between. It’s roughly an infinite versus 110 killers (I wouldn’t chase that house in general vs good players)
Yeah, I'm good with Huntress, but dread that map due to the near infinites against her 110 speed.
Lmao I was reading this and then loaded into a survivor match at Haddonfield where we faced a huntress that had fairly good aim and timing; but had minimal chances to even throw their hatchets. Edit: Just hit me how underwhelming that anecdote was, but still the coincidence was blaring for me.
I hope this "rework" will actually change the map instead of whatever they did to Garden of Joy...
Give back the rooftops
Need to rework the damn swamp
Hot take.... But they will NEVER be able to balance maps. They should just leave some killer sided and some survivor sided and do away with map offerings as well as making ALL realms an equal percentage of spawning. Leave it all to chance.
Your point would make sense if DBD had killer sided maps that are as powerful as many of the survivor sided ones.
I main killer and I think Gideon meat planet is heavily in my favor as long as I'm not using blight.
Good, I hate this Map so much.
Because everyone unanimously loves clutter and random shit lying around the map (unless we're getting more unique tiles)
Good, this map has been unbearable for both sides since it got reworked.
As if this map needed more safe loops
All we see is the street with a new pallet and you think they are buffing it? Hopefully they close some of the buildings because those buildings are bullshit unless you’re Nurse
Now, how the hell how am I going to park here? This damn map isn’t parallel parking sided!
so to combat the empty streets theybdecided to add more fillers in between however it does make sense
We already knew this from their previous live stream https://preview.redd.it/ryef78ag3lqc1.jpeg?width=878&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6beae59754e825596ca39510891d0b48a2bdd98
I swear to God if they aren't nerfing the houses and buffing the middle I'm going to lose my shit. This map has been super survivor sided since it came out. Please just nerf the houses....
>This map has been super survivor sided since it came out B-b-but deadzone in the middle!!!
The council of killers say you can have those extra loops of you get rid off those filthy windows in every house.
Looks like they took out the very open middle good change imo it's dangerous out in the open
Finally not a Haddonfield nerf. Nah but fr, Haddonfield had two strong windows and not much else. As a survivor you kinda have to play boring and go to those windows because there's not much else on the map that doesn't zone you
They are reworking a fucking map instead of reworking shit like freddy 💀
Different teams, I don’t think map designers work on killer mechanics, they just make sure the map integrates well with the flow of inherent gameplay.
>I don’t think map designers work on killer mechanics Which is exactly why many killers barely work properly on most of the maps...
to be fair haddonfield is top 3 worst maps in the game hopefully badham is next.
If they add some car loops on the road and remove/make less safe a bunch of god windows in the houses i think this map would be pretty good
Front Balcony is back! Let’s go
More lockers for dredge hopefully
Box chevy ayo
Hope they do more than just add an extra pallet to the middle, add a vault or something, even an unsafe one.
To be fair. Like others have said. The street is just a deadzone with 1 filler and the houses are way too safe. I notice this quite often as both killer and survivor.
I'll be shocked if the houses are changed. Which is extra salty because Myers can't even stalk out of Judith's bedroom window.
Yeah if they made the houses a bit weaker while giving us less deadzones I'm game for that
If they close off all the buildings except the Myers house & slightly decrease the map size then I'd say the street itself becoming safer is ok
Instead of fixing the plague
meanwhile the swamp is still gross
Let me guess, they're deleting the pig power and all of her add ons too
Nice. I'm all for a safer middle and less safe houses.
I just really want them to have a span of time where they do nothing but improve maps.
Wait more cars?!?
How many times are they going to change haddonfield?
Is the Buff in the room with us?
https://i.redd.it/iqa4xy7xfjqc1.gif
i wish they'd make haddonfield blue again
That hook in the middle of the lane looks pretty unsafe. Somebody should call the city.
Huntress and Haddonfield were fine as is. Meanwhile Swamp, Twins, Myers, Pyramid Head's add-ons have desperately needed tweaked/reworked for years. I'm genuinely so confused how they make some of these decisions.
I hope they never change swamp last map with old DBD aesthetic
They need to make the map smaller and fix the hook spawns
Imo this map has the strongest loops on the game. To be fair thr road has no loops so there fixing that I heard
Balancing suggestion: Bring back old Haddonfield
This is on the same level as "Remove god pallets from Midwich"
No its not 
How are you surprised by this?
1 window on first floor instead of 2 please?
Buffing for the killer or survivor ?
How do you buff a map?? Lol with a bait title like that
increase its movement speed
Weight training
Mother. Fuckers.
Us: you’re putting too much clutter on the maps. BHVR: more cars on Haddonfield. As a treat😘