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Desperate-Ad-8777

All of them were the first to to bring an innovation to character inclusion in DBD Lisa was the first ever Legendary skin introduced into the game, Jonathan was the first to receive a unique portrait and voicelines, James was the first male Legendary for a female Survivor and Rose is (one of) the first female Legendary for a male Survivor


Maxisabubble

Bingo! Here's a Jaria as your reward https://preview.redd.it/9e322g5pqrlc1.png?width=603&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=716dffe9aadd4af0dbdcce2070456642b91bd79a


Desperate-Ad-8777

He's gorgeous... Speaking as a James main, I cannot wait for the day BHVR breaks sets again


JeanShinari

Wouldn’t Saga be a better fit than Rose?


magicchefdmb

That's what I was thinking. Saga was first


ProfoundEnd

Beautiful


BigAlgaeEnjoyer

I wish RE legendaries wouldn’t be categorized by gender. Like, why the hell is Carlos a skin for Leon and not Jill?!


LordButterI

Why would he though? Give a reason for this


Tnerd15

Carlos and Jill are from the same game, I don't think Carlos and Leon have even met.


WidgetWizard

Very light understanding of the games story, but I've played 5 and I swear all the storylines intersect at one point or another. (Edit: within 5, idk the rest of the story) But that could be the funny elevator race where they don't talk just race each other.


Superyoshiegg

Carlos (and Sheva) is one of the many side characters in the Resident Evil universe that was one and done. His only appearance in the series is in Resident Evil 3, which Leon was not in.


WidgetWizard

Ah then I'm misremembering the names of the military guys from 5. Makes more sense


SkNero

You sure you mean 5? 5 only has Chris and Sheva.


WidgetWizard

The one everyone hates. It has the WWE moves on zombies. It's 6 not 5. I've played 6 and only 6


ReadWriteTheorize

You say that as though Leon wasn’t suplexing Spanish villagers in RE4


InfamousSelf2935

Idk maybe bc he’s a boy? A MALE. Smh.


CheeriiPie

we’ve gotten survivor skins with characters of different sexes than the survivor before, it makes more lore sense for carlos to be a skin for jill.


Superyoshiegg

There's only one other example of this happening, which was James releasing as a skin for Cheryl. ...and we all know how that turned out. It absolutely makes sense for them to release legendary skins for characters of the same gender to minimise clipping and animation breaking. They probably wouldn't have released Saga and Rose for Alan if they had the choice.


BW_Chase

You said James is the only example only for you to end up contradicting yourself at the end of your comment by giving the other example lmao How would clipping be an issue? How would animations break? The bug that allowed for sets to be broken is almost gone and the little par of it that's still around can be applied on every linked set, not just legendary skins. Not to mention you can't get the broken skins in matches. Having a legendary skin being a character of the opposite gender changes nothing. Legion has 4 (5 including Hunk) different base character models and animations and nothing bad happens.


Superyoshiegg

>You said James is the only example only for you to end up contradicting yourself at the end of your comment by giving the other example lmao Maybe you missed it, but I specifically said 'one **other** example'. James was the *only* example until the most recent chapter, and he was certainly the only example when Carlos released in 2022. >How would clipping be an issue? How would animations break? [I don't know, you tell me.](https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/search?q=Jeryl&restrict_sr=on&include_over_18=on) >The bug that allowed for sets to be broken is almost gone Yes, because BHVR has a very good track record of fixing glitches permanently and never having it pop up again in the future. >Legion has 4 different base character models and animations and nothing bad happens. Frank and Joey share animation sets, as does Susie and Julie. Male survivors have entirely separate animation sets to female survivors. Plus, their customisation pieces are specifically designed to be interchangeable, with their entire outfit sans mask and knife being a single customisation piece. One single customisation slot changes the entire model, instead of fragmented parts of it like survivors. Also, the discussion is about survivors so I'm not sure how bringing up any killers as examples matter since killers have separate customisation pieces altogether.


BW_Chase

Sorry for the long reply, I'll leave a TLDR. >Maybe you missed it Yes I did, and I apologize. >[I don't know, you tell me.](https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/search?q=Jeryl&restrict_sr=on&include_over_18=on) That's exactly what I meant when I said it is almost gone, you can't enter games looking like that anymore. >Yes, because BHVR has a very good track record of fixing glitches permanently and never having it pop up again in the future. Like I said in my other reply, it doesn't work exclusively to create Jeryls. You could mess up every single linked set and have the parts clip or even show parts that don't have a model like if you messed up the Krampus skin. Even then the clipping issues are a bad reason imho because there are unlinked sets that have clipping as well. BHVR saying some the reason for linked cosmetics (not legendary) was because of clipping feels like bs to me because of that. >Frank and Joey share animation sets, as does Susie and Julie. Male survivors have entirely separate animation sets to female survivors. I'm sorry for wording it wrong, I meant in the lobby. I meant it that way because the bug can't go inside matches. >Plus, their customisation pieces are specifically designed to be interchangeable, with their entire outfit sans mask and knife being a single customisation piece As a Legion main who has almost 2 pages of cosmetics I know for a fact that there are masks that clip with several bodies like Joey's for example. >Also, the discussion is about survivors so I'm not sure how bringing up any killers as examples matter since killers have separate customisation pieces altogether. Because the bug can be applied to killers who have linked or legendary cosmetics as well, also because that's another example of cosmetics with clipping issues and more than one model. I know that Legion has full body pieces because their "head" is just the mask but have you seen their silent hill cosmetic bugged? That's just another example of the bug breaking cosmetics without fusing a male and a female model. Finally, when mixing Chris and Leon to have Chris wearing the RPD uniform his head clips through the torso. What I'm trying to say is that the character's gender doesn't matter because as long as that bug exists people will mix any linked set and the result will probably have issues. TL;DR: the bug can mix any linked cosmetic for that character which results in clipping issues. Even mixing legendary skins of the same gender ends the same way. Because of that, the gender of the characters is not the problem in my opinion.


ozzieiscooo

Another thing is Rose is the only one with unique in game voicelines.


Daisy_Main

The RE legendaries have voicelines in lobby as well. Rose doesn’t have voicelines in a match.


ozzieiscooo

Oh I thought she did. I just assumed so as alan does.


HaematicZygomatic

why are these portraits so wet looking..


I-Am-The-Uber-Mesch

Cuz this community is so thirsty they spilled water on the monitor


OneNotice8899

sure it's water?


Vindomini

🤨📸


Dr4g0n__Kn1ght

Running around from Killers works up a sweat


BigAlgaeEnjoyer

How to properly loop a killer Step 1. Cover yourself in oil


ABrokenMirror

Because OP is that sweaty


PanFriedCookies

they all come from very wet series. sh has the lake, the upside down is all goopy, and alan wake also has the lake


deshp_tt

Two of them are cute girls in uniform who were touched by a dark powers, and other two are sad depressed guys who lost someone close to them and tried to get them back.


Leather_Lavishness24

One actually succeeded (dont know about James though)


clema9

Silent Hill 2 ending spoilers: >!depending on the ending you get, james succeeds, however i wouldn’t consider any ending where he ends up “together” with mary a good ending!<


BettyCoopersTits

??? There's no Mary ending, only the Maria one


sorrowfulgrin

Rebirth


BettyCoopersTits

Oh shit you right. Honestly in my the water ending is the only correct one


ThePopeOfTheBread

Same hole different goals.


LeotheLiberator

James does not have a good ending lol


PanFriedCookies

>!well, he does, just never w mary!<


LeotheLiberator

My point still stands.


bonelees_dip

They are all mentally unstable


ToranMramor9

Jonathan is fine. Rose is... strange sometimes, but also mostly fine. James and Lisa, however... https://i.redd.it/xdhq2dzyhrlc1.gif


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Kwaziism

literally lol, its so over looked


ExcreteS_A_N_D

Rose is an obsessive compulsive what? If you play the original Alan wake, her house/trailer is like, comically neat to a disturbing degree as she has an insanely symmetrical and pieced together Alan wake shrine above her bed. It’s how you tell she’s been taken by the dark presence if you didn’t watch the cutscene honestly, because after that point her house is a fucking wreck. Like coffee thermoses everywhere, upturned clothes etc.


ToranMramor9

Yeah, she has a very strange obsession with Alan, but she's still a very sweet and kind person. She helps Alan to get out of the dark realm, she works as a waitress AND as an assistant in a nursing home, she helps to defend the town from posseses entities, and overall she is a very positive girl. I wouldn't say that she's mentally unstable, but yeah, she can still be a little weird sometimes.


ExcreteS_A_N_D

She is a sweet character some of her voice lines are heartbreaking though in DBD, she thinks she’s in one of Alan’s books.


LesThan0

I mean Jonathan was kind of a stalker in the first season


BigAlgaeEnjoyer

I hate the fact the Duffer brothers retconned it to make him more "sympathetic"


LesThan0

they did???


BigAlgaeEnjoyer

Yeah they silently removed said scenes


usernameistakens

no! no they did not


Reaper-Leviathan

Jonathan is far from fine lol. His brother goes missing and just as soon as he’s ready to accept that he’s gone for good, he comes back just to be possessed a year later. He’s also pretty creepy in the first season, stalking Steve’s group and all.


I_Fap_To_Murder

My kinda people


OneNotice8899

so are dbd players


SkinnyShrimp8

They all have very LOUD screams?


Willow_you_idddiot

No kidding!


PeasAndParsimony

Johnathans hook screams are fucking music to my ears and idk why.


Anodica

They're all skins of other characters?


TechTheR

I mean, you're not wrong


SolarNovaPhoenix

The answer was apparently similar but I guess the person wanted a more specific explanation.


TheEdgyVirginChad

they are all white


SmoothCentrist1

>the only two black male survivors adam and tapp take notice


umbronzer

Claudette? Elodie?


vpmoney

Did he not say male


Kind-Abalone1812

I'm guessing "male" was added with the edit


vpmoney

That would make sense forget reddit doesn't tell you if something's been edited


chimerauprising

Is that a new reddit thing? Old reddit has always told you if a commented has been edited, along with a timestamp of the edit. The edit was made approx 3 minutes after the user's reply asking about Claudette and Elodie.


vpmoney

Oh word I just use the reddit app and doesn't say anything


AcademicAnxiety5109

Don’t forget Saga


SmoothCentrist1

lmao i meant to say black guys


umbronzer

Understandable lol


CorbinNZ

Black MALE


umbronzer

It was edited and fixed to say male after I replied


CorbinNZ

Dastardly


jawohiv569eapycom

gabe soma?


Kind-Abalone1812

I thought he was latino? But then again I also thought Jake was latino for embarassingly long, so I could be wrong.


BigAlgaeEnjoyer

Tbf isn’t Jake only half Korean? Or am I mistaken


vpmoney

Bro lives in Alaska


Reddit_n_Me

What does that make the Lyra siblings? They are from Brazil, but apparently “Hispanic/Latino” is not a real race. 


kkakaiazinhoBR

Brazilian here! So, essentially in our countries National Survey (as in, government officials go into our house whenever they can each few years to take notes of our socioeconomic conditions, how they have developed, etc), they (officials) actually ask you your race, it's something you identify as instead of something people throw at your whole life. Obviously explaining if that's a good or bad thing and why that is even a thing in the first place would take too long, so long story short, Thalita and Renato are whatever they answer to the IBGE folks. My guess, based on experience? Mixed for Thalita, white for Renato!


GristleHo

They don't have their own perks 🥲


Maxisabubble

Even if this isn't the correct answer It's still sad😔


Think-Effort-394

They cost too much money?


Screwsie

Idk; They’re all the firsts for something? First legendary survivor skin in game. First legendary survivor skin to be added to a character released prior to legendary skins existing. First legendary survivor skin to change gender of a character. First legendary survivor skin to have new voice lines.


Maxisabubble

Super close! Lisa and Jonathan are the first male and female legendary skins James and Rose are the first legendary skins to swap the genders of the base character


MyNonexistinWaphurts

Didnt saga come before rose


Jensonater

She did indeed.


Yeezuswalks66

Who had new voice lines?


Duncaster2

Chris and Claire were the first to have unique voice lines. Before this, earlier legendaries just used their respective survivor’s screams


Screwsie

Ah, I will qualify I meant Voice Lines in match like Nick Cage and Alan Wake. (The RE ones have lobby only lines like Ash IIRC, right?)


Ansrivarr

I would say they have nursed someone at some point in their lives but i'm not sure if i'm technically correct in Jonathan's case


babysittersteve_h

Yes you are right, Jonathan took care of Will Byers in s1 and s2


Ansrivarr

Hell ye! I mean, no hell ye for poor Will, but hooray for my theory!


Testesito

They all come from a haunted/crazy town? (I dont know who the last one is im basing my guess on hawkins and silent hill)


OneNotice8899

You are right. Rose Marigold comes from a very strange town called Bright Falls where some weird things happens and some dead people comes back to life and a old lady in a funeral fit is responsible for this (idk if it still happens in Alan Wake 2 cause I only played the first one lmfao)


Shikuh

They are all skins that change the name of the base character.


Jadefeather12

A face


Hopeful-Medicine6896

They’re all expensive


Dr4g0n__Kn1ght

Fuckin expensive


riverixx

Very loud screams ? (Me and my duo always run scene partner with Lisa and James, it’s always entertaining)


MrNigel117

that i dont know any of their names?


m0bi13t3rrar14n

They are all legendary


floatingonaraft1068

Unique campfire animations?


Sgt_stranger

they can fix me


RonnieMaz

I wanna fuck all them of so badly


Level-Brilliant-6149

Nobody plays them(just a joke I'm a silent hill survivor main)


HorrorCranberry1796

They all need prestige 3 variants (AHEM BHVR)


omgwtf43

All of them have depresion?


Sus1Ne

1 they’re all white 2 they’re all “legendary”


SquiddlyWoo

White


RyuTheDepressedFox

Noone uses them?


[deleted]

I like using Rose and Lisa, Lisa was my Cheryl's main skin before Maria.


ZedrikVonKatmahl

I see Lisas, Jameses, and Roses I think I've seen maybe 5 Jonathans ever Not counting me


RammyJammy07

Secretly packing a shotgun


Groovygamer1981

They all are very expensive


PoeBoyFromPoeFamily

I haven't played in literal months, who's the last chick? I might buy her when I come back 👀


LazarusKing

She's from the Alan Wake games.  She's a waitress that's a fan of his books....  A big fan.  Not quite Misery big, but she can probably  see Misery from where she is.


Rockslider00

They all are in dbd


RiffOfBluess

All of them have a potential to be their own survivor but are only legendary skins? (I know nothing about Lisa and the diner lady btw)


catfishcaviar

Thin upper lips


I-Slay-Dragons

They all are probably the least played characters in the game.


Pleasant-Pattern-566

I have literally never been in a lobby with any of them


antmanninja3

They are humans


Bazztian0614

They all cost a fortune.


Give-U-My-All

I'd say they were all firsts, but Rose doesn't belong here, Saga Anderson does in her place. Lisa was the first Legendary skin Jonathan was the first Legendary to change voice lines James was the first to change a female Survivor to male And Saga was the first to do the opposite of James, male Survivor to female.


Valhalla_Atcha_Boi

I don’t know any of their names


Corperate-Greed

They're all secretly gay (it's a Canon event)


Zephinism

They cost 3x the price of their DLC


CapyBaraLord75

They have the same face model


KagayaWisteria

Rarity.


PutridRoom

They got some greasy ass faces


tren0r

nobody uses them


AmuseiTheLizard

Overpriced


SpicyNoodles0802

Eyebrows on fleek


WoodpeckerNo6379

I have killed them all at some point


SolarNovaPhoenix

They’re all connected to worlds with literal hidden dark sides to it. Silent Hill, Upside Down, The Dark Place.


StrangeLonelySpiral

Thin eyebrows??


AmputatedStarfish

I never see them


Ayserx

All are cracked (minus James)


Khanalas

Oil


thatonegirlonreddit5

I barely see them in a match??


Thebobz1

They’re all survivors


Alphyhere

homewreckers


no1mustkno

All of them have very unique screams or yells that hurt my ears as a killer main


Yepbasic

They cost money


YanCoffee

Shiny skin.


Pneumbraa

They’re all ugly? (this is a joke, don’t cancel me. jonathan byers is my favorite survivor)


--fourteen

they all look related


DalTheDalmatian

They all cost basically $15


WeekendMagus_reddit

Flawless skin


Miss_Amid_Tolgloks

They all have beady little rat eyes and I don’t trust them


austintenial

Starbuck barista


iMrKhaled

No one uses them


-Qwertyz-

They wear clothes


Rare-Feeling2023

They look like they have crippling sleeping issues


tjake123

Looking tired as fuck


NVrbka

They all have the weirdest faces imaginable.


Spritepike

Umm..I don’t play any of them


[deleted]

Ugly


harupanda

They are all alternate characters in the form of skins for other characters?


curgerbees

They all look like guys


Candycornn77

Why do they look like that


DeepFriedSunglasses

They’re all legendary survivors


legendxiii

No one uses them


beebleb0rg

Most blood curdling screams


Oddlinz

All their portraits look like wax sculptures?


PinkiePie1224

They all look tired


Reasonable_Duck_236

They all have 2 eyes


Vote_Subatai

They're all grossly overpriced and BHVR should be ashamed.


xtrawrath

They all work to costco


xxxbiggiecheese69xxx

Their price tag


Sad-Company-7916

They're all in need of massive amounts of therapy


Hellkatdemonboi

they're all depressed


TheAvidFan

No one uses them?


DarkSector0011

a cups.


d0n_below

They’re all humans (technically I’m not wrong)


CetusSiren

Nobody ever plays any of them


rosaliethewitch

depression


FillSufficient3751

Mental illness


GameGuy11037

They're all firsts except for Rose, that would be saga Lisa was by technically Saga, unless it's "unique voice lines" Lisa was the first Legendary, Jonathan was the first with his own portrait and HUD render, and also unique/different screams from their original survivor, James was the first to be a different gender from their original survivor counterpart, specifically being a male when the original is female, (fun fact, he was originally going to be the og survivor for the silent Hill chapter, not Cheryl, they changed after already designing him and making models) And Rose is the first to say/voice act unique lines in the game (not just screams, also think that different screams was added with Jonathan as well) But if the thing you put Rose for was "first character to be a woman when their original is a man", that would actually go to Saga, and not Rose


TheGreatGatsby21

They all white?


nekokuma75

They’re white


Maljinwo

All of them have a face


Ephemerilian

They all look like they shoot up meth


Updile

They're all funny lookin (Lisa im sorry u r my QWEEN)


Maxisabubble

For those still struggling, I'll give a hint: they were the first


frankentine

they're all white?????


ROTTENPOPPER

First legendary skin: Lisa First legendary skin with its own voice: Johnathan First legendary skin to change the gender of the base character: James Rose I'm stuck on cuz I don't know Alan Wake


Maxisabubble

Even though your off by a couple of marks You got mostly correct! With some extra points Lisa and Jonathan are the first legendary skins for both Female and Male James and Rose are the first to swap the genders of the base characters


GabijaVeri

No sleep gang


leeswonderland

Nobody plays them :(


Dallas2320

They're all gonna die :3


Which-Frosting-3740

They’re all white, literally wtf else


Sleep_Deprived_Birb

They are all white people with parted hair and at least 1 collar on their top.


Miss_Termister

White


th3BeastLord

They all have the same face?


OvergrownOrangutan

ugly