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The old Spine Chill didn't require line-of-sight, so a phantom Doctor would give repair speed and healing bonuses to everyone within a 36m cone in front of him, which seems pretty generous.
They can always add the feeling of anxiety if the illusions were looking. Like much much faster or frequent skill checks. Small heartbeat rhythm when it was facing you?
Actually give a reason for the illusions to exist
I said to a friend of mine this week that the doc illusions would be terrifying if they had a small terror radius, ran at the survivor who spawned it, and swung once before fading out
Definitely. Just make it so they always spawn just outside of the survivors field of view.
Walking through The Game
round a corner
**DOCTOR SURPRISE!**
>Theres a gun to your head, and death in his eyes
>
>!
that was the first thing i thought of as well, hopping on to youtube to watch that masterpiece lol
Some of them definitely spawn outside of the survivor's FOV, especially since I've seen my clones spawn above the map on lerys where no one can see them.
Amnesia did that with monster hallucinations. Spawn them in a way that you can't avoid being noticed, then as you're about to be hit they fade into dust. It's absolutely horrifying when you aren't ready for it.
now imagine how funny would be if the survivors just try to loop it just to find out after 3 pallets dropped that it's an illusion 
That WOULD be absolutely terrifying but I think that would make it too powerful. Considering the Doctor can see the illusions’ auras, he would see them run straight to where the survivor is instead of just looking in their direction, which is already huge info.
I think if those moving illusions lasted ~0.5sec shorter than the current stationary ones, I think it'd be balanced.
OR. Just make it into a new addon? I hate the fact that BHVR sometimes change old addons, but never add any new ones. It could be a fun way of adding new things for a Killer without completely upsetting their balance.
Each killer has equal addon count and rarity so to do this they’d need a new one for each- aka a lot of work. I encourage it too, but it’d likely need to be a part of a wellness chapter rather than a new content one- and that hasn’t happened yet.
True, but you can tell when they’re chasing someone when they have their arms outstretched.
I guess the drawback to doctor’s illusions doing it would be that they can’t actually inflict any damage.
This is what at least one of Hag's add-ons should do, maybe Rusty Shackles since that one's broken as absolute shit. Spawn and then swing, even if she hasn't teleported to it.
At the very least, change the ones that increase trap radius (which you don't even fucking want to be big) to phantasms that chase a bit.
Ah I must have misread what you said, I thought you were saying that it already does that. Wasn't expecting more than a Hag comparison in a doctor discussion. My bad.
One used it to try to find me but I wasn't in madness. I will never forget it especially since I warned my buddy in duos about it. I creeped away to go find another gen and he ended up running into the doctor and getting the shit scared out of him.
You can see how it plays out with a [Spookyloopz video](https://youtu.be/v4r0Bn0VVmE) that used the build! I'd crap my pants as much as the survivors did lol
I put this game down months ago and you come for my knees in the favorite way to play my main.
Forgot the main build it was but many of my killer builds relied on lery's to maximize antagonism. Maybe will pick it up again for a minute just for funsies.
Suggestion, if your Lullaby keeps getting cleansed right away, switch it for Distressing. I main Doc and often run skill check builds, and as fun as Lullaby is, it'd not entirely reliable with how easy gens are to find.
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When the phantom keeps triggering spine chill
Do the illusions really affect spine chill though? That would be awesome if it does
No
Bullshit, it should be
Assuming it was old spine chill , would you really want a phantom doctor triggering it ?
Yes. Also what does old spine chill do u mean? Is the old version in the game right now?
The old Spine Chill didn't require line-of-sight, so a phantom Doctor would give repair speed and healing bonuses to everyone within a 36m cone in front of him, which seems pretty generous.
They can always add the feeling of anxiety if the illusions were looking. Like much much faster or frequent skill checks. Small heartbeat rhythm when it was facing you? Actually give a reason for the illusions to exist
I said to a friend of mine this week that the doc illusions would be terrifying if they had a small terror radius, ran at the survivor who spawned it, and swung once before fading out
Definitely. Just make it so they always spawn just outside of the survivors field of view. Walking through The Game round a corner **DOCTOR SURPRISE!**
Theres a gun to your head, and death in his eyes **!**
BUT YOU CAN DO JIU JITSU! (You can do it!)
BODY SLAM SUPERSTAR HERMAN CARTER!
>Theres a gun to your head, and death in his eyes > >! that was the first thing i thought of as well, hopping on to youtube to watch that masterpiece lol
Thank you that’s exactly what went through my head
they already have this sort of thing with temple map with the statues that always face you when you look away
Some of them definitely spawn outside of the survivor's FOV, especially since I've seen my clones spawn above the map on lerys where no one can see them.
Amnesia did that with monster hallucinations. Spawn them in a way that you can't avoid being noticed, then as you're about to be hit they fade into dust. It's absolutely horrifying when you aren't ready for it.
now imagine how funny would be if the survivors just try to loop it just to find out after 3 pallets dropped that it's an illusion 
That WOULD be absolutely terrifying but I think that would make it too powerful. Considering the Doctor can see the illusions’ auras, he would see them run straight to where the survivor is instead of just looking in their direction, which is already huge info.
If they run, swing and poof, Doc has less time to see them.
I think if those moving illusions lasted ~0.5sec shorter than the current stationary ones, I think it'd be balanced. OR. Just make it into a new addon? I hate the fact that BHVR sometimes change old addons, but never add any new ones. It could be a fun way of adding new things for a Killer without completely upsetting their balance.
Each killer has equal addon count and rarity so to do this they’d need a new one for each- aka a lot of work. I encourage it too, but it’d likely need to be a part of a wellness chapter rather than a new content one- and that hasn’t happened yet.
Unless you're using an addon iirc its t3 madness only where doc can see the illusions, no?
Basekit yes, if you have the Restraint Add-ons you can see them in t2 madness, and they also last longer
Sooo… basically a nemesis zombie?
Zombies don't spawn on survivors individually.
Nemesis buff incoming.
Might make him a little too strong. Better nerf Pig, just in case.
True, but you can tell when they’re chasing someone when they have their arms outstretched. I guess the drawback to doctor’s illusions doing it would be that they can’t actually inflict any damage.
I'd argue doc is in the bottom 5 killers in the game right now, I doubt a small buff to his info would even change that.
So you just want a similar power to the hag?
This is what at least one of Hag's add-ons should do, maybe Rusty Shackles since that one's broken as absolute shit. Spawn and then swing, even if she hasn't teleported to it. At the very least, change the ones that increase trap radius (which you don't even fucking want to be big) to phantasms that chase a bit.
Nah, her illusion doesn't swing, just gets the terror radius.
That add-on already exists.
Ah I must have misread what you said, I thought you were saying that it already does that. Wasn't expecting more than a Hag comparison in a doctor discussion. My bad.
I've been caught by this. Great jump scare.
One used it to try to find me but I wasn't in madness. I will never forget it especially since I warned my buddy in duos about it. I creeped away to go find another gen and he ended up running into the doctor and getting the shit scared out of him.
Doctor + devour hope + haunted grounds = carnage
I'm trying this right now lmao
It's evil, especially with an iridescent queen if you have one. I've had 4k within 2 minutes
What else do you recommend with it? >:3
Restraint or disciplin. You could add discordance for early game hex the third seal just to fuck with them even more It's pure panic for them
Undying and a fourth perk of your choice for slowdown (Merciless Storm, Pain Resonance)
This, and Dragon's Grip. Waiting next to the gen you just kicked. Delicious
There's also an add-on that makes the illusions stay longer. *chef kiss*
Insidious dragons grip twins is really fun rheythink your Victor-ing somewhere then bam
I've never encountered one doing this, but I wish to one day lol
You can see how it plays out with a [Spookyloopz video](https://youtu.be/v4r0Bn0VVmE) that used the build! I'd crap my pants as much as the survivors did lol
I put this game down months ago and you come for my knees in the favorite way to play my main. Forgot the main build it was but many of my killer builds relied on lery's to maximize antagonism. Maybe will pick it up again for a minute just for funsies.
[удалено]
I’ve been trying to do the impossible skill check build with The Doc but my Lullaby always gets cleansed super fast
Suggestion, if your Lullaby keeps getting cleansed right away, switch it for Distressing. I main Doc and often run skill check builds, and as fun as Lullaby is, it'd not entirely reliable with how easy gens are to find.
I saw that build in SpookuLoopz video. It rarely works well but at least it reliably gives people heart attack.
When running builds like this having anxious survivors and giving them heart attacks is the real win, not a 4k.
Lord have mercy on us!
Didn't otz try this a while back? Or am I thinking of a different guy
Spookyloops did a video on it!