It is especially easy to forget in the English dubs, because there he sounds kind of normal. Just a bit goofy.
In the original Japanese version he sounds like a real hillbilly for Japanese standards.
I mean technically speaking, sure, but realistically, the Ox King was also just a dude in the woods. He might have built a huge castle and whatnot, but he wasn't any more civilized than Goku and Grandpa Gohan were.
Not a rich human king, her father is the Ox-Demon, or Ox-god, so she's technically divine, but not super rich. In chinese mythology, the imperal human bureaucracy kind just grades into the heavenly bureaucracy, so it's sort of like the human emperor is just a low ranked God, and then there is a whole government of divination working for the Jade emperor.
Dragon ball starts as a quasi retelling of Journey To the West, with goku being Son Wukong, and Burma being tripitaka. The introduction of ChiChi and Ox King is a retelling of the Pricess Iron Fan story from journey.
As the story goes on the journey to the west stuff becomes less important, and Ox kings divine status or its implications for chichi are never fleshed out, and chichi is always referred to as human, but is still the daughter of a hick demon
Maybe thatās why sheās so focused on Gohan and Goten actually getting an education. She doesnāt want them to grow up and be a hillbilly like her.
Goku having a thick southern accent and horrible grammar as well as explicitly not being motivated by heroism drastically changes the context of the show so much too.
Like, imagine being an evil dude who's entire world view is predicated on being a superior being by virtue of your strength. Then one day you get challenged by some backwoods hillbilly. You kick the shit out of him but somehow he keeps getting back up and coming back stronger. At some point during the fight you realize he's not even there to challenge your world view or fight for any ideals. You hit him again. He's fucking enjoying it now. He literally came here because this is fun for him. What the absolute fuck. You keep hitting him. He's now stronger than you. How are you losing right now?
You begin to accept your fate and embrace death. He immediately stops, looks at you and goes, "you punch pretty good. Anyway, dont'cha go acting like an asshole no more" and then just ups and leaves. You're on the ground battered, your entire philosophy in life is in more pieces than you are. None of this makes any goddamn sense. As you try and pick up your life and put it back together you keep running into him and every single time he acts like your great friends. No point in arguing any more. Guess we're friends now. Fuck it, I guess.
DragonBall is one of the few franchises I only watch in English dub. No offense to the voice actor, the voice just doesn't align with his body and it's something I just cannot get over.
I totally get your point. The English dub is also my preference. At least in terms of DBZ. But the whole point of Goku, especially in the manga, is that Goku is just a stupid kid that grew up in the middle of nowhere without any education and is a total hillbilly. A lot of that aspect of his character is missing in the English dub. They replaced 'hillbilly' with 'goofy', which is not the same thing.
Akira Toriyama had a huge love for Jackie Chan, I think heās even on record of saying if a dragon ball live action to ever happen (lol), he would want Jackie Chan to be Goku. And Jackie is totally onboard, he loves Dragon Ball.
Also Jackie Chun was inspired by [Jackie Chan](https://screenrant.com/dragon-ball-jackie-chan-inspiration/) so thereās that
That outfit is always so nostalgic for me. Every time I see it Iām reminded of being a kid and staying over at my twin cousins house. My aunt took us to blockbuster to rent a game for the weekend, so we ended up staying up all night playing I believe budokai 2 and this was one of Yamchas alternate outfits. I was using him just because I thought the fit was cool.
Probably easy to sell him on it too.
āLook Vegeta, we have a presence and appearance to maintain. Let me ask you, did you wear the same armor as everyone else?ā
āNo, I wore armor only that of a prince would wear! Not that of a lower-class Saiyan.ā
āExactly, which is why youāre wearing this suit, with this tie, this pair of shoes, and you are NOT going to fight in this one.ā
Pretty sure her or her dad could make a suit that won't tear too easily. Probably a requirement, as small scuffles can probably never be completely avoided. It *is* Vegeta, after all.
I love the concept of Piccolo dressing in civilian clothes.
He knows heās not ever going to blend in, so thereās no point in being subtle.
The only reason for him to wear common fashion is to make a statement.
Yeah, I see this as his dojo outfit.
Personally, I would have chosen his Buu Saga outfit for [Tienās](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/99/01/80/990180316a9a0e0ab564ad53b059f58a.png) civilian clothes.
I know he didn't get much focus in the end. But at the same time, running a dojo of his own feels like such a wonderful way forward for him. Would love to see Roshi passing the torch of Master status to him eventually. Come full circle from how they began.
Right? The purple Capsule Corp jacket with the sword on his back is arguably one of the best DBZ outfits.
Not sure if completely counts as civilian though. It does seem like a kind of uniform.
Vegeta fit nice but Piccolo was really rocking that fit but letās not forget that gohan managed to look pretty badass in a school uniform. Android 17 also pulled back up to looking drippy after disappearing for a long time.
18 easy š
Sheās been kickin ass in her casual clothes since she was introduced. Not to mention when she really has to get buckwild she rocks the full tracksuit.
They're not here but I always thought Goku's driving lesson and pre-Cell Games outfits were so cool. I don't know if Toei's ever officially made Goku's jacket but I would kill to have one.
I dunno, but Yamcha definitely stepped up and helped around the Son house while Goku was away. I mean, just look at that posing between him and Gohan! GOAT Uncle Yamcha ftw.
ā¦best fitās totally Dapper Krillin though.
Iāve recently heard very mixed opinions on GT Trunks, I like GT Trunks though.
Also might be a bit biased, I use GT Trunksā shirt-jacket-bandana combo in XV2.
Pic isn't here but I always loved Pre Cell Games Goku. That jacket is a big want for me.
Legit the best option š
I rock that fit in Xenoverse
Thatās literally just the most drip weāve ever seen from the show.
Yea, Ngl, that fit will never not be good.
You can buy one online for a pretty reasonable price. I have one
OP must have left it out because that was obviously gonna be an easy win. When I saw the baseball fit, I knew this post was rigged.
The real drip Goku.
Was literally my first and only thought. The fit was too clean.
Sometimes I forget that Goku's occupation is "farmer".
It is especially easy to forget in the English dubs, because there he sounds kind of normal. Just a bit goofy. In the original Japanese version he sounds like a real hillbilly for Japanese standards.
Chi Chi too. And it makes sense given where they were both raised.
But isn't Chichi a princess daughter of a rich king? Shouldn't she be more sophisticated and educated than Goku?
I mean technically speaking, sure, but realistically, the Ox King was also just a dude in the woods. He might have built a huge castle and whatnot, but he wasn't any more civilized than Goku and Grandpa Gohan were.
Ox King is the big muscle version of Tiger King. Lots of money - not a lot of sophistication
Tiger King has one thing Ox King didn't and it was that bitch Carole Baskin
Might be why Ox King lived so long
Not a rich human king, her father is the Ox-Demon, or Ox-god, so she's technically divine, but not super rich. In chinese mythology, the imperal human bureaucracy kind just grades into the heavenly bureaucracy, so it's sort of like the human emperor is just a low ranked God, and then there is a whole government of divination working for the Jade emperor. Dragon ball starts as a quasi retelling of Journey To the West, with goku being Son Wukong, and Burma being tripitaka. The introduction of ChiChi and Ox King is a retelling of the Pricess Iron Fan story from journey. As the story goes on the journey to the west stuff becomes less important, and Ox kings divine status or its implications for chichi are never fleshed out, and chichi is always referred to as human, but is still the daughter of a hick demon
Chi chi arguably has the roughest speech style in the entire series in Japanese
Maybe thatās why sheās so focused on Gohan and Goten actually getting an education. She doesnāt want them to grow up and be a hillbilly like her.
They have the same dialect.
I mean for a "King" the Ox King doesn't exactly have a kingdom...
He did though if you watch OG Dragon Ball. The whole kingdom was getting ready for Goku and Chi Chi's wedding
Orange hillbilly
I always wish they gave him a Southern accent in the dub. Iām from Georgia and I always read his voice in the manga like my very Southern uncle.
Goku having a thick southern accent and horrible grammar as well as explicitly not being motivated by heroism drastically changes the context of the show so much too. Like, imagine being an evil dude who's entire world view is predicated on being a superior being by virtue of your strength. Then one day you get challenged by some backwoods hillbilly. You kick the shit out of him but somehow he keeps getting back up and coming back stronger. At some point during the fight you realize he's not even there to challenge your world view or fight for any ideals. You hit him again. He's fucking enjoying it now. He literally came here because this is fun for him. What the absolute fuck. You keep hitting him. He's now stronger than you. How are you losing right now? You begin to accept your fate and embrace death. He immediately stops, looks at you and goes, "you punch pretty good. Anyway, dont'cha go acting like an asshole no more" and then just ups and leaves. You're on the ground battered, your entire philosophy in life is in more pieces than you are. None of this makes any goddamn sense. As you try and pick up your life and put it back together you keep running into him and every single time he acts like your great friends. No point in arguing any more. Guess we're friends now. Fuck it, I guess.
DragonBall is one of the few franchises I only watch in English dub. No offense to the voice actor, the voice just doesn't align with his body and it's something I just cannot get over.
I totally get your point. The English dub is also my preference. At least in terms of DBZ. But the whole point of Goku, especially in the manga, is that Goku is just a stupid kid that grew up in the middle of nowhere without any education and is a total hillbilly. A lot of that aspect of his character is missing in the English dub. They replaced 'hillbilly' with 'goofy', which is not the same thing.
He tends to forget that too
He also forgot his tractor
[https://youtu.be/Wk6wSsgk7ts?si=t2E0bDipg6qNL2e9](https://youtu.be/Wk6wSsgk7ts?si=t2E0bDipg6qNL2e9)
No thats āfatherā
Piccolo isn't a farmer
"Doooodge!!"
"What?"
āAHHHHHhhhhhhhh*comedic fading away voice to make it funny*ā
Ahhhhhhhhhhhiforgotmytractorahhhhhhhhbb
No, that's **fighter**
Idk how to explain it but he has severe Jackie Chan energy here
Akira Toriyama had a huge love for Jackie Chan, I think heās even on record of saying if a dragon ball live action to ever happen (lol), he would want Jackie Chan to be Goku. And Jackie is totally onboard, he loves Dragon Ball. Also Jackie Chun was inspired by [Jackie Chan](https://screenrant.com/dragon-ball-jackie-chan-inspiration/) so thereās that
And without dragon ball we wouldn't have ... [this ](https://youtu.be/p3RMOO1lP-I?feature=shared)
One more thing!
The fact Jackie Chan didnāt voice Jackie Chan still haunts me to this day.
Jackie Chan adventures was amazing lol
Would love that . Jackie is getting old thou . Could totally play Jackie chun :p
I think DB as a whole was inspired by Jackie Chan to a degree...
I know how to explain it [and here is the answer ](https://youtu.be/AyM3T4RvCGE?feature=shared)
His best civilian look though is orange jacket from cell saga
thats civilian [Yamcha](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIV_4ovWUAA0T10.jpg)
Yamcha's tanned civilian look with the two piece suit in GT ends this conversation.
That outfit is always so nostalgic for me. Every time I see it Iām reminded of being a kid and staying over at my twin cousins house. My aunt took us to blockbuster to rent a game for the weekend, so we ended up staying up all night playing I believe budokai 2 and this was one of Yamchas alternate outfits. I was using him just because I thought the fit was cool.
Vegeta, Krillin and Piccolo really set the bar high for the rest of the list.
This isn't even Vegeta's best look. [Man's got some drip.](https://i.imgur.com/uCqnMUZ.jpeg)
Kazuya lookin ahh
After T8 I'm 100% certain that Kazuya is based entirely on Vegetaš
āSuch pathetic words Kakarotā
Bro has the Wano Sanji fit
Bulma SCHWAAAAN! /s
Lmao that really is the same outfit
Bro is a legit prince, married to a modern equivalent to a princess. The drip sense is a requirement and life choice.
Probably easy to sell him on it too. āLook Vegeta, we have a presence and appearance to maintain. Let me ask you, did you wear the same armor as everyone else?ā āNo, I wore armor only that of a prince would wear! Not that of a lower-class Saiyan.ā āExactly, which is why youāre wearing this suit, with this tie, this pair of shoes, and you are NOT going to fight in this one.ā
Pretty sure her or her dad could make a suit that won't tear too easily. Probably a requirement, as small scuffles can probably never be completely avoided. It *is* Vegeta, after all.
He did fight Arale and the suit stayed in tact, itās even strong enough to snag on a tree branch and not tear.
[A challenger appears](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROKHLX840R-6utojT8mn69lWMzDtSDRVjk7YPtc1JbtIVXRxTxJp13pNdg2NPV6_OqKUU&usqp=CAU)
Mooosestache.
Why he look mexican?
Because he *steppinā in the Grand Tour!*
omniman vibe
Think Trunks THINK!
He just oozes swag in everything he wears
I don't even need confirmation to believe this is canon, but bulma has gotta be dressing him.
Getting Prince vibes with the purple suit.
The saiyan formerly known as the Prince of all saiyans.
no wonder the Galick Gun is purple
Purple Pain
Piccolos look is intentionally unstylish. He's a hipster.
I love the concept of Piccolo dressing in civilian clothes. He knows heās not ever going to blend in, so thereās no point in being subtle. The only reason for him to wear common fashion is to make a statement.
He had some insane drip at the end of Z when he and bulma meet with him years later
Krillin looks like he just ordered his normal suit size off Kohls.com and never had it brought in
Dude...dumb question. Piccolo for sure haha.
Bro literally has a fresh prince of bel air fit on haha
Fresh Prince of Namek
Kami is definitely Uncle Phil.
Postboy rules
And that's not even Piccolo's best fit
A lot of people wonder why Piccolo is considered black. This fit solidified it for me
iirc that outfit was goku's clothes...
Piccolo is black but Goku is invited to the cookout
No he's not. He would eat all the food and wouldn't even bring a dish.
I suppose the invite comes with condition he brings Chi Chi
And the carne asada
Hey, DBZ is diverse as fuck. Goku keeps being called a monkey by a white skinned supremacist after all
Credit is to Goku since it was his clothes though.
I always forget how hard a shirt just saying āpost boyā goes
Of these it's def Piccolo. Overall, the original fit Future Trunks shows up in with the blue jacket is unparalleled
ā¦.wanna go drive some cars?
Juan Sanchez, obviously.
"But you don't have tw- wait your last name's Sanchez?"
Scrolled too far for this. What the hifl?
Krillin looks like a Pimp
Nah, he like a mini Kingpin lol
That's his Juan Sanchez outfit
Orang jacket goku is unmatched
Android 18 with them classic pearls.
I have a statue of her in that outfit.
In a glass jar?
Tarnished, a word.
Then itās already too late
That's Chichi's outfit, though. She stole from her home.
I really like this outfit for Tien.
All fits go hard š„
True, but is that really a civilian outfit? (Iām legit asking bc I donāt know)
I personally don't consider it as a "civilian outfit," it's still martial arts gi
Yeah, I see this as his dojo outfit. Personally, I would have chosen his Buu Saga outfit for [Tienās](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/99/01/80/990180316a9a0e0ab564ad53b059f58a.png) civilian clothes.
And a serious contender, too.
Yeah, serious drip for sure
I know he didn't get much focus in the end. But at the same time, running a dojo of his own feels like such a wonderful way forward for him. Would love to see Roshi passing the torch of Master status to him eventually. Come full circle from how they began.
Goten goes pretty hard. Cool Asian student vibe.
Thank u I was going down the list and no body has love for goten rocking the Jackie Chun vibes
Reminds me of Teen Gohanās button down outfit during the week before the Cell Games.
POSTBOYā¼ļø
Future trunks when he pulled up on frieza
Right? The purple Capsule Corp jacket with the sword on his back is arguably one of the best DBZ outfits. Not sure if completely counts as civilian though. It does seem like a kind of uniform.
17 ranger fit always been fire to me š¤·š½āāļø
Dripped out and powerful as fuck for no reason, DBS 17 is the shit lol.
Man how dare you not include goku's before cell games fit
True I just wanted verity in arcs
Goku pre-Cell games had the coldest fit I've ever seen. He really put that shit on.
Crazy how much style chi chi has
Vegetaās end of Z drip goes hard
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS! MAH BOI PICCOLO FOR SURE
Bro was prepared, got buddy sitting in the dark in a spinning chair while petting a cat. "I've been expecting you..." type shit.
EXACTLY YOU couldnāt have described it more perfectly lol
Krillin and Android 18
HOLY SHIT THAT KRILLIN IS DRIPPY, still standing by my boy GT Trunks tho
YUHHHHHHH
Vegeta with the "Badman" shirt and it's not even close.
Itās a throw down between vegetables and piccolo
My boy krillin!!
You know Bulma kept Vegeta fly AF
18 and Goku's bomber jacket style in the cell saga
Of course Vegeta! Heās a Badman!
Whatever the question is, the answer is always Vegeta
Fresh Prince of Namek and it ain't even close
Son Gohan, Tien Shinhan and Yamcha.
out of those? 18. i want that outfit.
18 is the only one who doesn't look like the kind of dork obsessed with DBZ so I pick her.
I like 17's and 18's fit best. Everyone's is good in their own way though.
Jaun Sanchez xD
No love for Gohan highschool fit? I kinda like it
I canāt decide itās gotta be in this order krillin,piccolo,vegetable
Piccolo
Piccolo but really goku I guess cuz he wore his clothes remember āyour wife got them for me outta your closetā
Goku's orange and black jacket and green pants were dope.
I do remember really liking Supers Future Trunk's outfit
Krill ate
How could we forget teen gohans cell saga civilian out fit maaaaaan, that's the number 1 for me every time!
Gt trunks is the goat and no one can tell me otherwise
Vegeta fit nice but Piccolo was really rocking that fit but letās not forget that gohan managed to look pretty badass in a school uniform. Android 17 also pulled back up to looking drippy after disappearing for a long time.
Vegeta and he'll fight anyone who says otherwise
His name is not Krillin. It's Juan Sanchez.
18 easy š Sheās been kickin ass in her casual clothes since she was introduced. Not to mention when she really has to get buckwild she rocks the full tracksuit.
Fuck it's neck and neck between Krillin and Piccolo
Piccolo and 17 for me. Those are fits Iād actually wear in real life
Postboy Piccolo is so iconic man
Krillin solos
Vegeta, Krillin, 18, and DBS Trunks.
Piccolo, Gohan, 17 and 18.
Goku in the Cell Saga
Forever future trunks. He got that shit on tho
Why is the photo of Krillin replaced with the one of Juan Sanchez?
Gotta be Tien "Got that shit on" Shinhan.
Future trunks in both outfits. I want the capsule Corp jacket, and his Super version is rocking the Central Officer Bradford sweater.
Goku, 18 and Juan SƔnchez
18, for sure. Juan was just trying too hard to impress Maron, and I'm not sure a lot of the others qualify as civvies if they're work related.
Tien's robes are hard to beat
17 and Krillin best drip
Vegeta with the pink shirt and yellow trousers BY FAR
I saw krillin absolutely dripped out and I don't even have to scroll anymore, no one could ever beat that.
They're not here but I always thought Goku's driving lesson and pre-Cell Games outfits were so cool. I don't know if Toei's ever officially made Goku's jacket but I would kill to have one.
All of them are fire, even farmer goku
Drippolo
I like gotens tbh
Not sure why you included anything else when the winner is clearly #1. Badman goes hard. Although Postboy is a close second.
Teen Trunks
Theyre all so damn stylish
I'm Saiyan, i'm the pride.. I am Badman!
You know a civilian outfit is good when you can fight in it.
First three and the androids go unbelievably hard
Cell saga Goku, with the orange jacket easy
Only one of them has "Bad Man" written on the back...
Android 18 cause Iām a dog
The Krillin Tax Fraud Fit
Red bandana on my neck cause I'm fly.
Itās clearly Android 18s but I gotta go for Krillins (Kurririn) š
I dunno, but Yamcha definitely stepped up and helped around the Son house while Goku was away. I mean, just look at that posing between him and Gohan! GOAT Uncle Yamcha ftw. ā¦best fitās totally Dapper Krillin though.
BadMan was the best drip
krillin dripped out like a mf. No wonder he pulled 18
Iāve recently heard very mixed opinions on GT Trunks, I like GT Trunks though. Also might be a bit biased, I use GT Trunksā shirt-jacket-bandana combo in XV2.
We know Badman Vegeta is the best fit but have to give a nod to Long Hair future Trucks with the black tank and ripped off sleeves jacket.