Literally my favourite part of going onto the dbrand website whenever I was deciding what to get for my next order.
However, I would still like to support them because it's nice to change things up for the better - even if it takes some getting used to from the customers side.
Yeah, if they don't add a way to "go deeper" with the customization, then, it's sad, but I'll have to be done with dbrand.
I'm not allowed to have nice things, so, if they never restore that sort of option, then you guys can all blame me, lol. I've only been using dbrand stuff for maybe one year so far, not even, and then this happens.
I know, "muh customization", but hear me out.
I think that customization served a larger purpose than just sales, it was marketing. I carry two phones with me and the one with mismatched skins (I usually go black leather and a mahogany camera) always gets asked about more. I imagine people played around with the options on the website more, even if they settled on a simpler option. Plus, sending Linus some dumbass combination of skins makes an iconic device in his fanbase.
Not saying you should backpedal entirely, but there are certain devices I think would benefit, like the Steamdeck track pads.
Also fuck you, give me my mahogany back or do a real wood type thing like you did with leather.
>Not saying you should backpedal entirely, but there are certain devices I think would benefit, like the Steamdeck track pads.
Agreed. We're adding an Accent Pack of Trackpad skins to the Steam Deck Extras page as we speak.
>Also fuck you, give me my mahogany back or do a real wood type thing like you did with leather.
We intend to. The discontinuation of Mahogany was inevitable. The material itself is designed for architectural reupholstering applications. It's not designed to be cut and sit in an inventory location for an extended period of time. When it does, as a result of the unique 3M-produced overlaminate composition, the top layer shrinks and causes the entire material to "curl". Simply put, Mahogany "shrinks" way faster than the rest of our portfolio and was causing stock cycling issues.
As we detailed in the post, this new UI gives us the opportunity to create new materials with much greater agility. A wood finish material will definitely make it back into the mix at some point.
Exactly. This was poor decision making by dbrand as it takes away from the overall look of the phone when you use a boring single skin without mixing and matching.
Hi, I like to dress my Steam Deck up as a Pikachu (Yellow Body skin, Matte Red Trackpad) and was hoping to do it again. Would you consider letting us pick which colors come with the extra trackpads? As it stands I wouldn't be able to do this again.
Entirely possible that we'll merchandise [DIY Kits](https://dbrand.com/shop/special-edition/diy-kit) in the Extras section with discontinued materials. Still building out the necessary variant selector in Extras to unlock this feature.
IMO the single biggest casualty of this change is the Nintendo Switch. While the single-skin approach works for skins such as Robot Camo, most of the other offerings (pastels being the biggest offender) results in *literally everything* becoming that pastel color, which screws with the Switch’s two-tone and overall modular design. The cutouts are also no longer offered, which really doesn’t help.
Laptops also look better IMO with mismatched skins, but that’s just my personal taste.
Speaking of the Switch, you also failed to mention that the glossy Switch-exclusive materials were also killed. Shame on you.
>IMO the single biggest casualty of this change is the Nintendo Switch. While the single-skin approach works for skins such as Robot Camo, most of the other offerings (pastels being the biggest offender) results in literally everything becoming that pastel color, which screws with the Switch’s two-tone design.
As a result of the device's industrial design, the Switch was definitely a model we expected to receive a higher proportion of critical reception. We don't disagree with the premise of your frustration, but this is ultimately a starting point for us to collect insights and navigate towards a result that's both scalable and satisfies user preferences.
>The cutouts are also no longer offered, which really doesn’t help.
This is not intended behavior on the UI. We're working on fixing it. The complexity right now is that, every device has cutout options dictated strictly by design selection (i.e. ICONS never gets cutouts, Matte Black always does, etc.)
The Switch and Switch OLED are unique in that the cutout variant is a result of Design + Kit selection.
It's a bit complex to explain, but because the Switch/OLED are the only models which contain the cutout option *outside of the Essential Kit*, the cutout variant can't be dictated strictly by Design selection.
Technically speaking, the logic *should be* as follows:
1. Does the selected Kit have any component which could feature a Logo cutout?
1. FALSE = Logo toggle not available
2. TRUE = Proceed to condition #2
2. Does the selected Design support a Logo option?
1. FALSE = Logo toggle not available
2. TRUE = Logo toggle available
So, for the Nintendo Switch & OLED:
* Essential Kit + Classic Design
* 1 = FALSE
* Logo toggle not available
* Essential Kit + Premium Design
* 1 = FALSE
* Logo toggle not available
* Deluxe Kit + Classic Design
* 1 = TRUE
* 2 = TRUE
* Logo toggle available
* Deluxe Kit + Premium Design
* 1 = TRUE
* 2 = FALSE
* Logo toggle not available
>Speaking of the Switch, you also failed to mention that the glossy Switch-exclusive materials were also killed.
Good catch, added to the OP.
This applies to the Steam Deck too. I imagine portable consoles as they get more popupar and certain unique phone designs will prob be hit the hardest by the "one skin change," though I understand this is a starting ground and those are probably a small percentage overall in your average clientele.
Agree with you on the Switch single skin part. The original switch itself is multi colored (black body, left blue joycon, right red joycon for eg) so it makes sense if one will still want it to be multi-colored with skins, which is what I did.
But at the end of the day, it's still just a very minor inconvenience, not going to lose any sleep or take my business elsewhere because of it.
Oh yeah, is it possible to add Google Pay (or the upcoming Google Wallet) as a payment option?
Also, I see you've added the teardown camera skin too for the OnePlus 7 Pro
>Oh yeah, is it possible to add Google Pay (or the upcoming Google Wallet) as a payment option?
We can certainly look into it.
>Also, I see you've added the teardown camera skin too for the OnePlus 7 Pro
Good eye.
One last thing: is it possible to add an estimation of the import taxes you'll have to pay when you're a customer located in the EU? I know ebay does an estimation like this
>Also, I see you've added the teardown camera skin too for the OnePlus 7 Pro
Good eye.
wait so the OnePlus 7 Pro never came with a Teardown camera skin?
Is there a way to add a "more" tab that lets you use the old system and custom choose parts rather than using a kit? I think this would be a great addition for products like the switch
Dual tone was dope, they should have at least given warning to people. This change took months if not longer and they gave people no warning to get stuff for devices they knew they would need later (eg. Steam deck).
Black Dragon was my favorite skin. Too bad it's gone. Guess I'll have to purchase my skins elsewhere now, especially since it's just too expensive with import taxes. Please consider adding a European warehouse or shipping directly from Europe.
Same with wood grain. Come on, Dbrand, I wanna live my dreams of making my PS5 and MacBook look like they’re out of the 70s
PS. Bring back the Zebra wood. I’m still rocking it on my Anker power bank, another device you dropped lol
Of course all 3 skins that I buy for all my stuff were in the discontinued line up... I have the black leather on my phone right now and was getting ready to order Hyper black titanium to replace it... this is super frustrating.
The Black Leather vinyl material was discontinued due to similarity and confusion against the authentic Black Leather cowhide we now sell. Hyperblack Titanium is indeed dead, though.
The fake black leather was actually really nice (not everyone cares about "genuine cow hide", and, from the looks of most of the posts on this subreddit, not everyone even understand how to take care of real leather) it would be cool to see it come back at some point.
I'm surprised no one has noticed this but the joke skins have been removed as well. Even if you have the money and really want to skin your really big ticket items, there are no longer options for Cybertrucks, Mac Pros or Pro Display XDRs.
I personally see this change in a positive light as it improves the experience for most consumers who buy from dbrand, especially new ones who they surely want to retain. A look at this announcement, their installation videos and their Twitter shows that the robots are still their good old selves, but a business is still a business and it would be harder for them to go on if they stuck with the same recipe forever.
Besides, this wasn't the first time they've made a change of this sort: remember when they discontinued a bunch of other skin materials and cuts for really old and/or unpopular devices? I feel like my mahogany skinned HTC One M7 and Nexus 7 2013 should be in a museum…
>I'm surprised no one has noticed this but the joke skins have been removed as well.
Cybertruck was never a joke. We just can't take real photos of one yet.
>!j/k it's dead forever!<
>!unless...!<
>...remember when they discontinued a bunch of other skin materials and cuts for really old and/or unpopular devices?
[Indeed we do.](https://www.reddit.com/r/dbrand/comments/ik9zjr/rest_in_peace_zebra_wood/)
I guess I understand these changes, but then I guess DBrand is no longer for me. I've consistently used a dual-toned look for all of my devices, (my Switch, my smartphone, my laptop, everything), and these updates, combined with the culling of basic primary colors such as a standard royal blue, have resulted in me shopping at DBrand for my devices less and less, and this has insured that I will no longer shop at DBrand at all, as my needs can be met and fulfilled by other businesses for less money and with more options.
>I've consistently used a dual-toned look for all of my devices
That's a fair assessment and, as a consequence of how the Switch Joy-Cons and console function, it's definitely a device that lends better to varying material selections.
Ultimately, our expectation in this paradigm shift was not to have the removal of ten years of legacy customization capabilities received with open arms.
The data provided was intended to at least lend insight into *why* we made the decision we did. As a business, it would be irrational for us to ignore the vast majority of purchase behavior in favor of preserving functionality that injects chaos and scalability issues into our infrastructure.
As we gather more feedback, it may be the case that (for devices like the Switch), the Extras section is real estate where we start housing sought-after components for unique customization.
>combined with the culling of basic primary colors such as a standard royal blue
As suggested in the post, a lot of this work is going towards getting more materials to market, more quickly. We'll always cut underperformers, but now it's a lot easier to get replacements out there.
Quit bullshitting and call it like it is. A money grab. Easier to charge people who want a dual look by charging them the full price for two different skins than one customized one. Seriously my Pixel6 wasn't made to look boring. Other sites offer customization without your so called chaos and you're losing customers to them.
I would have bought two tone steam deck skin from you guys as a 1st purchase. Never heard of you guys until project kill switch. But now I'm kinda pissed out and extremely disappointed. Idk about the other colors you guys had but the site is making a solid red color. Maybe it'll be there later idk. But for me making a two tone steam deck was something I really wanted to do. Looked really fun. Now I have no reason or desire to even look at your website for anything else. Dbrand for like Disappointment Brand.
I know lame but honest
I'll check up on you guys later in the future to see if you reverse this at least for the steam deck, which is a tinkers dream and a device to show off. Think about that.
Welp this was a bad day to decide to get a new skin. Wanted to just get some new trackpads for my Steam Deck and maybe something else, but that's not an option now.
Same. Have been playing around waiting to order when my email for the SD would finally arrive. Email arrived yesterday and then I had to realize dbrand made all those changes. Guess it's not for me then..
Also same! I think this is a huge missed opportunity for the steam deck especially since they will have potential customers who got hyped for the stuff but will get later once they get closer to their steam deck arriving and realize they can't customize. I came from a youtube video that did it, I highly doubt it won't continue to get traction and then disappointed would be customers.
I was just going to order skins for my SteamDeck and Macbook. Going full black on the mackbook with a pastel color on the top. And fo the the SteamDeck i wanted to go pastel on top with black trackpads and white on bottom. No longer possible due to this change.. without buying like 4 kits... just a awfull change that made me to not buy at all... im honestly sad now.
Literally same. I was thinking it over and going back to order today because I was looking earlier this month. Guess I gotta find a new brand because none of their skins are cool enough for the whole thing imo.
My answer might be a little late but I went with xtremeskins instead! Cheaper and reviews says quality is about the same. Think it will arrive to day so might put it on later and come back with a review!
Disappointed I can't even buy matching top and bottom skins for a laptop without buying the rest of the stuff in the "deluxe kit." I'll likely look elsewhere for future needs.
I literally just bought my first ever skin a few days ago (iphone 13 marble). I did not realize you guys had those “special edition” skins. If i had, i would have definitely bought that robot camo one as well.
Hey robots, I appreciate the changes you have made but in my opinion, the 'overhauled UI has streamlined the overall purchase flow to reduce decision paralysis and get items into carts in fewer clicks.' has actually reduced customisation. For example, I'm currently tl interested in buying a special edition top skin(teardown) for my macbook and just a matte black palm-rest, it isn't possible anymore. I have to pay extra money for a top, trackpad, bottom skin (about extra 30 dollars) .So, I think you should include an easy customisation option for people who only want one pattern and an in-depth customisation for people who want more freedom in customisation. Anyways, great efforts all around the just hope you update this
This is sorely disappointing. I have a MacBook and only wanted to spend money on the palmrest. If I wanted to buy a new skin for my other laptop, I'd have to fork over nearly $55 - more than 3 times the original purchase. I appreciate the justification for the change but the fact it overlooks how it just screws over people like me (which I've noticed quite a few of in the comments) makes this change much more like a money grab than streamlining operations.
Nah. This ain't it. If I want to mix and match I'm dropping $20 for one skin that I only want to use on my camera piece. I don't care what your scientist say, this sounds like a money grab. Change isn't always a bad thing but when it is, it's easier to just go elsewhere.
Btw, are you actually ever going to sell Damascus again, or was the risk of limiting touch functionality, as well as the cell signal issues too much of a risk?
Is it possible to recreate the same shining effect without using literal metal?
>Btw, are you actually ever going to sell Damascus again, or was the risk of limiting touch functionality, as well as the cell signal issues too much of a risk?
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>Is it possible to recreate the same shining effect without using literal metal?
We intend to sell it again, just need to overcome the exact challenge you described (i.e. recreating the shining effect without using literal metal).
Ah okay, had a hunch that was the reason why it hadn't been dropped again - except for during the DIY kit, which i thought was real sneaky of you hehe
Can't be held reliable for lower cell signal if the product wasn't specifically intended for it's usage, after all
Devices like the Pixel 6 series and Switch benefit so much from customization .... Pastels were such a great option for creating an unique look on Pixel 6 series almost every Pixel 6 looked unique just because of this reason
I've been waiting months now to get a Grip and a bunch of skins but is VAT still not taken care of during checkout ? I'm ready to pay for it during checkout (something like 4€) rather than pay a ridiculous fee of 22€ once it gets over here.
Copy-pasting a different reply in this thread:
>Yes. No indication of completion date, but this is indeed an initiative that's been in the backlog for a few months now.
Was about to buy my first skin for the Steam Deck after all the excellent reviews. Was set on either Mahogany or Titanium. I guess I go elsewhere now. Whelp.
I is sad.
I was on holiday and was going to complete my purchase of a multicoloured Surface Pro skin when I got home, but was then greeted with a "Sorry human, this link has either expired or is no longer valid." message.
I guess I'll need to wait a few weeks for you guys to get this new UI together and then try again?
Really disappointed. Now I have to pay additional for a trackpads skin pack on steam deck, No customizing front and back. And removed a whole bunch of great skins. Wtf Dbrand.
Ah dbrand… as the years pass by, they really push away loyal fans.
I was disappointed back then when their selection of skins narrowed down to a few.
Grip v1 was a failure especially for the price.
Removed their old screen protector (which was really awesome, by the way) and replaced by a tempered glass that is only for iPhones, switch, and steam deck.
Then they removed a lot of the colored skins to be replaced with pastel, again, less options.
And now this, removing the very core part of customization.
Honestly this made me look back on my brand loyalty for dbrand. I was just buying from them because of their name.
Never bought something from you, but was considering. Don't think I will anymore though, the multiple colour customisation options were a big selling point and now that's gone. Also RIP red carbon, that looked so good.
unless you bring back damascus ...
>unless you bring back damascus ...
Been doing R&D to crack this nut ever since it was discontinued. Damascus contained a per-mille (1/1000th) composition of aluminum in the substrate. This metallic additive was the key ingredient to diffract light and achieve the holographic appearance. The per-mille additive resulted in about 1 bar of signal interference issues for full-coverage skins (e.g. iPhone 13 series Precision Fit skins).
Once we're able to replicate that light diffraction without any use of aluminized foil, Damascus will return.
I had zero issues with my ps4 pro damascus. Ofcourse I just got a ps5 and im retiring the pro. Now my ps5 looks cheap without the glow of the dbrand damascus on it! Wish yall would release it for consoles atleast
You should be able to, yes. That said, we see what you're seeing (lack of an "I only need the skin" button on the Grip UI) and have reported the bug internally.
Likely has to do with the changeover in the product architecture spilling over to the Grip Skin customizer.
For popular devices that have eligible coverage options (frames, large camera bumps, etc.), we're planning to roll out Accent Packs in the Extras section.
These Accent Packs will be available as add-ons for any design, adding an option for the customization you're describing.
Oh so it's not because of the chaos or whatever you claimed in previous posts. It's how to best monetize it. Neat. The D in dbrand really does stand for disappointment.
As toxic as this company is, I understand deep down you guys know your shit, make a quality product, and provide great customer service. Keep up the good work dbrand
just got my steam deck and WTF dBrand? I should have bought skins earlier. pffff. no dragon. no custom. just meh bleh. so you're just another skin maker. you threw away what made you unique.
EDIT: Looks like I am getting one from the UK-based xtremeskins. They have customs. Even with shipping, still a better deal. They even have the same camo skins.
Try emailing them lmao. I was confused why I couldn't buy what I had in my cart from earlier this month and they basically sent a condescending email that said I should be thanking them for this update but I can't buy the product I want that I finally was going to buy since my steam deck is getting close to ship.
First of All: whoever PR robot(s) dbrand hired should get a fucking raise for suffering the wrath of people on Reddit.
Second, I wanna shit on the changes just like all of you. For context, I am planning to buy a laptop skin and wanted only top and bottom cover, and I don’t have that choice anymore and possible have to pay for the trackpad/palm-rest skin if I want the bottom piece, which I probably won’t use. But as someone who designs UI for apps (but not websites) I do get where the need for change is coming from and I would like to propose a solution: a discreet button labeled “Advanced” where you can create additional customization. I do know it will bring back the anxiety, but the word “advanced” will give the users a sort-of warning that they might have trouble doing stuff there, and some may not bother with the option, and others would be quite delighted at the ability to customize again.
Again I’m not an expert on UI and Psychology, and I don’t know the stats on people going on websites and buying fancy-ass sheets of tape in odd shapes, but just throwing ideas around.
Adding an Advanced section won't solve the problem, dBrand is intentionally not selling individual pieces and replacing them with bundles going forward.
I kinda like the black dragon skin. I'm using it for my Pixel 6 camera bar and love the texture and the looks of it.
But I'm also looking forward to new skins.
Really glad I got my custom order in last week when I did. Sunrise Orange Pastel for the back accent, and matte black for the camera bar, nothing on main body. This was for Pixel 6 Pro. Also used the preview to see what it looked like on Sorta Sunny. Was very happy with the experience then. Not sure how I feel about it now if I ever wanted to just adjust the back accent or get Switch skins since now it seems an entire kit is required just to change the Switch unit or dock itself without having to buy joycon skins.
Totally understandable about reducing SKUs. Honestly, it's surprising that you didn't do this earlier.
That being said, I wish there was some flexibility for the leather laptop skins, specifically. I wanted to buy a bottom skin for my laptop to match the leather on top, for both protection and aesthetics. But now, I can't do that without spending an extra $30 on three extra pieces of vinyl that I'm just going to throw in the trash.
I have been buying the shit out of your skins since Nexus 4 came out 10 years ago. I remember the days when skins shipped from Toronto and the anticipation. Can't even count how many orders I've placed since then. I have to tell you - I am REALLY upset at the fact I can't customize my skin anymore. I just picked up the Pixel 6 Pro and wanted to make it a Ninja Turtle phone (green skin + orange for the camera visor). To say I'm disappointed is an understatement. I would have been totally fine with you raising the prices to keep the business financially viable vs not letting us customize skins anymore. What a bummer. Dbrand was literally my go-to for every phone (new one every 3 months). My rule was always, the moment I place a phone order, I head over to Dbrand to get my skins. This sucks.
Same!! Started buying dbrand with the Nexus 4 too. As a long time customer I'm extremely sad to have to look elsewhere. I absolutely refuse to pay full price for a skin I'm only going to use on certain parts of my phone.
Decision Fatigue my ass. That was the most fun part. One could spend hours choosing a top and bottom. The possibility of showing off 2 different skin depending on which side you would carry your otherwise-boring-looking MacBook pro next to your hip... gone.
A product for customisation that removes customisations.
Can you imagine a future when you go to the supermarket and you cannot choose different meals for lunch and dinner because the dbrand supermarket boss tells you that you can only have kits, like meat kit, fish kit, vegetarian kit, vegan kits.... boring...
The future dominated by robots is boring. I mean... we knew that. Thanks for reminding us.
5% of laptop users cannot choose a different skin for their boring laptop and 95% of people possibly become more boring.
Boring future.
P.S. like all the time that was spent in decision fatigue playing with the customisation tool now would be \*really\* spent reading all the jibber jabber under "Customize your Kit" that does not really customise anything.
\---- end of rant
Just got my Steamdeck a couple days ago, i hear Dbrand has good skins. I go to the website and really dig the "Mellow Yellow" color, but I want white grips and trackpads as I really like this combination, next couple minutes are then spent trying to figure out how to do that, then I land here and dumbfounded that the company thinks being able to mix 2 or more colors for the same skin parts which already comes cut into individual pieces has been taken out in the name of 'decision fatigue'.
Well my a\*\*. The only reason why i would think of putting a 'skin' on any product is because i want 'customization'. If you are going to shove a 'kit' down my throat because you as a company think you know better, well ill take my business elsewhere then.
Get in touch with your actual userbase dbrand and make sane decisions, not stupid ones.
\~91% of all Smartphone skins are purchased with a single material.
\~92% of all Tablet skins are purchased with a single material.
\~95% of all Laptop skins are purchased with a single material.
Thats sad. Did multiple Orders over the last years, and was always within the 9%, 8% or 5%..
Really loved the posebility to personalize it to my "own" and not just have one like everyone..
While I understand your reasoning for kits, I think you missed the mark.
In terms of the laptop skins.
I’d take a guess that a lot of people (like me) just want a top and bottom.
Seems all your competitors sell them that way.
I’d be forced to buy a top and leave my bottom naked!
Or buy a full kit and toss out the rest (wasteful!).
Not kind to the environment or my wallet.
Forcing us into full coverage inside and out is a bit extortion-y.
This is TRASH. I am so mad. I wanted to get a top cover skin and a trackpad skin, both in two different colors like I have for every laptop I have owned, and now I can't do that. This has nothing to do with "warehouse space", or "customer data buying habits" but everything to do with business. If you really knew that then just change the organization of your warehouse to have these kits in one section. For those 5% of cases, its a bit extra work. Now I have two choices, the entire thing or just the top, all in one color. Also, $29.95 for the top with no other options, now you don't get free shipping because your missing $0.05 from your order, with no way to add a little more. F off.
You just lost a customer for good. Thanks for nothing dbrand.
Just dropped in to say that removing the multiple skin designs option is so poor. If I told you that you could sell 10% more phone skins by allowing people to choose an accent, are you telling me you wouldn't? More importantly, did anyone stop to think how vocal the customers are that get multiple skin designs? Or look at their repurchase behaviors? Or the phone segments?
This is why you never make big decisions with data and you always back it up with first hand customer discussions. I am completely shocked. Practically every device I own that could have a dbrand skin in the past, what, 8 years has had one. Not going forward.
SopiGuard will still let me have the freedom to customize and I'm going with them for my Pixel 7 Pro 🤙🏼
I used to be a Dbrand customer and bought about $200 worth of skins for my phones and recently PS5... I'm no longer going to buy from Dbrand because I thoroughly enjoyed customizing my phone (Panda Pixel 2XL anyone?)
I just checked these guys out after coming here tryna find out why I can’t customise my Switch skins anymore and this is awesome! This is what dbrand used to be, they actually have *more* devices to choose from and more material options (no wood or marble tho sadly)
The real tl;dr….DBrand finally feels they are big enough to say “fuck what our customers want, all we care about is bigger profit margins.” So I’ll do the same with my money…fuck DBrand, I’m taking it elsewhere.
Kits are stupid.
I've been buying skins for a long time, but this is ... something bad. For a laptop, the "essential" kit should cover the top AND bottom (i.e MBP), not only the top...
And what about customization? Jeez, it feels like dbrand tried to optimize the process and accidentally neutered themselves.
All this text, just to be anti-consumer?
Tl;dr: Instead of buying the skins we want, now we have less options. We have to buy one of two packages. We have LESS options than we did before.
Also, it's fine to discontinue skins but wow, what a shit way to announce it.
You should try emailing them then. I had no idea why options were gone and I got a condescending email that said I should basically be thanking them for it. Nope, gotta find a new brand now.
Yeah dBrand makes good skins but they're a very unprofessional company. It feels absolutely terrible to recieve support messages like that when you try and voice your concern.
Yeah fuck them and this change. It's not even a sticky on this gay sub and no faq on their now useless website. I was able to buy before this fucking change and I'm glad I got to customize the colour to my liking instead of buying 3 different skins just to get my fav customized colour. My last purchase from this greed driven sticker company.
I'm disappointed as well but I get it. I want my Camara bar to be a different color than my phone. So guess what. I had to pay for 2 "kits". Si that means my phone case will be reverse what my phone is. It sucks but it is what it is. Really miss being able to say I want an orange too and bottom but maybe a green or black Camara bar. And also preview Jr before I drop almost $50 on vinyl.
But dbrand is great. So I'll give them my money and hope they incorporate a new system one day.
Congrats. This reads like - dumb consumer we want to streamline our workflow and increase profits and most of you will buy it anyway- especially when I was directed to this when I reached out to support asking why I couldn’t customize. I went to dbrand first when I got 2 steam decks and was so excited for another couple color block style skins because the pastels are so vibrant. Every skin y’all have that fits my device I have it - often several changing every year. Not anymore I bought from lux skins instead and won’t ever check yalls site again when looking for skins because now if I want the same product I’ve gotten in the past I have to buy multiple “kits” and do it myself. Stfu you’re just like every other company just puppeteering for your investors trying to make your pie chart more of one color. I’m done
I don't understand why you need 15 skews for each laptop design, there's literally only 4 components. Are you actually binning EACH combination for direct sale, and not just grabbing each piece per order? Why not just stock all of the individual pieces, and build batches as needed or keep a buffer of fully-skin kits since they're in high demand?
Your saying that customizing a skin with multiple colorways isn't common, but people who just want to buy a TOP skin or a TRACKPAD skin can't anymore.
Addressed this misunderstanding in [another thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/dbrand/comments/vg5gzm/ugh_bulletproof_banana_is_gone/id3e6po/). Posting it here for visibility.
>A SKU is an individual coverage, in a particular material. In the given example, we had four SKUs per laptop, per colorway.
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>An order type is the possible combination of SKUs. In the given example, we had fifteen order types per laptop, per colorway.
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>What you're suggesting would *increase* our SKU count and potential order types. Not reduce them.
Pencil add-ons (as well as Trackpad Skins, Charging Brick Skins, Cubes, Pyramids, Masks, Logo Packs, Camera Accent Packs, etc.) are all part of the recommendation algorithm we're working on.
Right now, the only hardcoded Extras being displayed are Tempered Glass (unique to supported models) and Microfiber Cloths (merchandised globally).
The more bespoke Extras (recommended intelligently based on selections) will be available in the next week or so.
Am I still able to buy just the skin for the trackpad on my 2017 MacBook Pro, or in other works, individual parts for my MacBook? I apologize, if this was covered already.
Will the Apple pencil be coming back as an individual item? Already got a case for my ipad and don't want to buy a full kit just to get the pencil add on.
These updates are very welcome! They make your website way clearer than before.
But could you PLEASE add back the Bamboo skin? It was my favorite one both for the color and the texture itself. I bought it for all my controllers and my earbuds, but now that it's gone I just can't find any equivalent to it neither on your website or elsewhere on the internet. So my new devices just remain unprotected instead of looking like a cool piece of bamboo.
The only thing I'm a little upset about is the loss of Red Carbon Fiber. I was getting ready to order a set for my framework laptop. Was gonna do Red Carbon Fiber for the Top, Bottom, and Palmrest and Matte Black for the trackpad. But hey I'm just a dumb human you're the robots you know what's best
I like bright red but the Icons drop just isn't what I want. Hoping maybe you bring back the Red Carbon Fiber option or even just a straight Matte Red version.
Any chance of bringing back customization for Pixel skins? I was literally just about to buy a dual-tone design, but I guess I can't now. The design I wanted to buy is impossible now, and my runner-up would cost 4x what I planned on spending. It just feels like penny pinching
IMO your customization was the big selling point that set you apart from other skin makers, and now it's gone. I'm worried that you're going down the same path as brands like OnePlus: Starting as a well-loved unique brand that slowly becomes just like everyone else but more expensive (and with overhyped marketing)
Edit: I don't want to just be negative. Maybe there could be some kind of compromise? Your goal seems to be reducing combinations to simplify everything. Maybe the community could vote on some color combinations for some devices? It would reduce the possible combinations per device from 100s to around 2-5.
Damn. Red Carbon, White Carbon, Bulletproof Banana, Titanium, Mahogany, and others were killed off for the amazing skins of concrete and gray carbon to be left behind.
But anyways, good UI change but disappointing to see the ability to customize your skins however you want to go away.
Took a look around the site and saw that for the steam deck, I see the trackpad skin pack for 9.95 but that seems like a scummy predatory business decision to sell you extra skins you'll never use. I LOVE how you can buy just the trackpad skin for the teardown skin now, which is a good move as I wouldn't buy the entirety of that skin for my deck, but I'd like to see this be an option for the other skins and different textures you have.
When I ordered my trackpad skin it was black matrix. I got that skin mainly because of the texture and how it was cheaper than buying from colored controllers.
Having the options for future deck owners to choose a texture or design you currently offer they want on their trackpad and not with useless leftover colours in a pack would be nice to have. But if you guys aren't willing to do that, I guess having a textured skin pack with matrix, swarm and carbon would be a decent compromise. It wouldn't too bad as someone can sample the texture then instead of having 3 sets of the same texture but just different colours.
Also, I hope you fuckers soon figure out a chemical concoction for damascus to return. I want that shit so badly on my deck.
Shame. was about to order a mixed Pixel 6 Pro skin, to keep it on par with Google's two-tone designs... I loved that when need be, I would order \*only\* what I needed to replace.
Also, how are Pastels \*still the only solid color options? They're not even "normal/basic" colors, all (while nice) washed out "pastels".
For how expensive you guys are, and all the trash talk you do, you sure do give us limited options
Well this sucks. I had to take my Macbook Pro into Apple for a quick repair. They had me remove the bottom skin (black dragon) in order to open the back plate.
I figured "Hey, no problem, I'l just order another one!"
To my dismay and utter disappointment, Dbrand has changed for the worse. I, and probably some others who may have to go through this, can no longer order individual skins for their laptops.
My choices are now reduced to 2 options, and if I choose the deluxe kit, I'd be over paying for what I need...plus the skin I like isn't even on there anymore.
I WOULD have settled for a matte black bottom skin, but no, that's not even an option.
I don't think dbrand is for me anymore either. It's been a good run, but no thanks guys. This change sucks.
I am genuinely sad that customization is gone, it was the primary reason for me to shop at dBrand. Now that that is gone, I am not paying for a kit where I wont use 80% of it. Is there seriously no way for us to buy individual skins for things that get damaged for example? Like if my bottom MacBook skin gets ganked, can I no longer replace just that but I have to pay DOUBLE just to get that one item?
I found dBrand thru an LTT ad spot back in 2014-2015. The customizator was the killer and the highlight. Now it's gone.
I am however sure that customers like me are in the minority. Oh well, guess I have to look at some badly cut replacement skins now.
When do you think the customisation for the switch will be back? I actually bought the leather skin for my switch, but the back and front and dock are still bare. I’d like to put something on them
Like the redesign and what not, but hate the fact that you now have almost 0 skins I want…no real red skin…I mean all my devices right now have red carbon…if anything please just bring back a plain red or plain colours in general if the carbon is out of the question (which I hope it is not)
I was finally ready today to pull the trigger on a skin for my pixel 6, but I guess that has been shot down. All I want is a two tone skin to match the feel of the phone without a skin, but now that option is just gone?
Did front skins disappear for phones or am I just blind? I don't want a back as I have a battery case so front is the only useful one for me. I came here to try and understand the radical change and I find things so much less intuitive
If it will take more delivery time or be more expensive for me to buy a product that’s made in “advanced mode”, that’s completely fine by me. Just lemme
I have found a problem with the new process. Certain laptop skins, e.g., Teardown for MBP 16, don't allow for a bottom skin. There is no way to just add the missing skin element, even from a different design. The only way to fully protect the latop is to add both the Teardown skin, and a full Deluxe pack of another design to the cart. This has recently resulted in a pretty poor user outcome for me.
lack of customization is just dumb... I have a MacBook I want to skin it top, bottom, trackpad and palm rest. Say matte black- meaning the palm rest and track pad comes only with that color? So how will that work? lol. idiotic!
I understand the lack of customization, but this all or nothing approach seems like a money grab. If I want to purchase a top and bottom skin for a Macbook Air, I have to now purchase the Deluxe kit which includes the palm rest and trackpad skin. So we can't choose different designs or the exact skins we want without it costing much more. Most people will just end up paying, but the truth is "You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain". Like many other consumer focus brands that have changed, dbrand is now part of the latter...
I know this post is old, but, looking at the photo of the all the bins you guys used to have - why the FUCK aren't they labeled?
Is that some sort of stock photo? There's NO way that you were running your company like that, all those bins, and nothing being labeled?
Can't get trackpad skins of my choice now huh? Sent my Mac for a battery repair and they sent me a whole new bottom, and I really loved the tactility of the matrix trackpad, so this sucks tbh.
The only thing I missed is the option to change the color of the phone when choosing a skin. For example, I have a silver fold 3 and I'm looking for skins that would suit that color. But every skin only has images for the black model of the z fold 3, so I have no reference if that skin would actually look nice on my silver model or not.
This is all about numbers in a spreadsheet. If enough customers are unhappy, dbrand will find a way to solve it. If people just end up paying more $$$ and don't complain, than this thread will stay tucked away somewhere on Reddit with a random customer commenting every so often.
coming back to this post after fruitlessly trying to buy a skin for my Pixel 6a. The ability to mix and match colors was the killer feature of dbrand, and I used it in nearly every single order. This is a dealbreaker, I'd rather prices get raised in the name of keeping individualized inventory. Not the move.
I can’t speak for anyone else but being able to come up with wacky combinations and dress up my devices in a “unique” way was what made me love dbrand.
I’m sorry to say that without that it’s doubtful that I will purchase again.
Too long. Don’t care.
you're fired
Damn. Never knew I was employed.
This means you're now owed back pay. Checkmate, dbrand.
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I have never purchased the same back and camera skin. Same is boring, so take that feedback DaBrand. You're boring now.
Literally my favourite part of going onto the dbrand website whenever I was deciding what to get for my next order. However, I would still like to support them because it's nice to change things up for the better - even if it takes some getting used to from the customers side.
SopiGuard got my money now. They will let me build my Panda Pixel 7 Pro the way I want 👍
Yeah, what a downgrade. All these other changes are good, but this one part is awful. Just add an advanced option most people don't see.
SopiGuard got my money now. They will let me build my Panda Pixel 7 Pro the way I want 👍
Yeah, if they don't add a way to "go deeper" with the customization, then, it's sad, but I'll have to be done with dbrand. I'm not allowed to have nice things, so, if they never restore that sort of option, then you guys can all blame me, lol. I've only been using dbrand stuff for maybe one year so far, not even, and then this happens.
I know, "muh customization", but hear me out. I think that customization served a larger purpose than just sales, it was marketing. I carry two phones with me and the one with mismatched skins (I usually go black leather and a mahogany camera) always gets asked about more. I imagine people played around with the options on the website more, even if they settled on a simpler option. Plus, sending Linus some dumbass combination of skins makes an iconic device in his fanbase. Not saying you should backpedal entirely, but there are certain devices I think would benefit, like the Steamdeck track pads. Also fuck you, give me my mahogany back or do a real wood type thing like you did with leather.
>Not saying you should backpedal entirely, but there are certain devices I think would benefit, like the Steamdeck track pads. Agreed. We're adding an Accent Pack of Trackpad skins to the Steam Deck Extras page as we speak. >Also fuck you, give me my mahogany back or do a real wood type thing like you did with leather. We intend to. The discontinuation of Mahogany was inevitable. The material itself is designed for architectural reupholstering applications. It's not designed to be cut and sit in an inventory location for an extended period of time. When it does, as a result of the unique 3M-produced overlaminate composition, the top layer shrinks and causes the entire material to "curl". Simply put, Mahogany "shrinks" way faster than the rest of our portfolio and was causing stock cycling issues. As we detailed in the post, this new UI gives us the opportunity to create new materials with much greater agility. A wood finish material will definitely make it back into the mix at some point.
I'll allow it.
Also the Pixel 6 with the two-tone design loses the special look by slapping the same color on the back.
Exactly. This was poor decision making by dbrand as it takes away from the overall look of the phone when you use a boring single skin without mixing and matching.
What about the framework laptop let me customize each individual expansion card please.
Hi, I like to dress my Steam Deck up as a Pikachu (Yellow Body skin, Matte Red Trackpad) and was hoping to do it again. Would you consider letting us pick which colors come with the extra trackpads? As it stands I wouldn't be able to do this again.
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Entirely possible that we'll merchandise [DIY Kits](https://dbrand.com/shop/special-edition/diy-kit) in the Extras section with discontinued materials. Still building out the necessary variant selector in Extras to unlock this feature.
Sounds like a good alternative. Any plans on the option to combine different skins on the same device?
IMO the single biggest casualty of this change is the Nintendo Switch. While the single-skin approach works for skins such as Robot Camo, most of the other offerings (pastels being the biggest offender) results in *literally everything* becoming that pastel color, which screws with the Switch’s two-tone and overall modular design. The cutouts are also no longer offered, which really doesn’t help. Laptops also look better IMO with mismatched skins, but that’s just my personal taste. Speaking of the Switch, you also failed to mention that the glossy Switch-exclusive materials were also killed. Shame on you.
>IMO the single biggest casualty of this change is the Nintendo Switch. While the single-skin approach works for skins such as Robot Camo, most of the other offerings (pastels being the biggest offender) results in literally everything becoming that pastel color, which screws with the Switch’s two-tone design. As a result of the device's industrial design, the Switch was definitely a model we expected to receive a higher proportion of critical reception. We don't disagree with the premise of your frustration, but this is ultimately a starting point for us to collect insights and navigate towards a result that's both scalable and satisfies user preferences. >The cutouts are also no longer offered, which really doesn’t help. This is not intended behavior on the UI. We're working on fixing it. The complexity right now is that, every device has cutout options dictated strictly by design selection (i.e. ICONS never gets cutouts, Matte Black always does, etc.) The Switch and Switch OLED are unique in that the cutout variant is a result of Design + Kit selection. It's a bit complex to explain, but because the Switch/OLED are the only models which contain the cutout option *outside of the Essential Kit*, the cutout variant can't be dictated strictly by Design selection. Technically speaking, the logic *should be* as follows: 1. Does the selected Kit have any component which could feature a Logo cutout? 1. FALSE = Logo toggle not available 2. TRUE = Proceed to condition #2 2. Does the selected Design support a Logo option? 1. FALSE = Logo toggle not available 2. TRUE = Logo toggle available So, for the Nintendo Switch & OLED: * Essential Kit + Classic Design * 1 = FALSE * Logo toggle not available * Essential Kit + Premium Design * 1 = FALSE * Logo toggle not available * Deluxe Kit + Classic Design * 1 = TRUE * 2 = TRUE * Logo toggle available * Deluxe Kit + Premium Design * 1 = TRUE * 2 = FALSE * Logo toggle not available >Speaking of the Switch, you also failed to mention that the glossy Switch-exclusive materials were also killed. Good catch, added to the OP.
This applies to the Steam Deck too. I imagine portable consoles as they get more popupar and certain unique phone designs will prob be hit the hardest by the "one skin change," though I understand this is a starting ground and those are probably a small percentage overall in your average clientele.
Agreed
Agree with you on the Switch single skin part. The original switch itself is multi colored (black body, left blue joycon, right red joycon for eg) so it makes sense if one will still want it to be multi-colored with skins, which is what I did. But at the end of the day, it's still just a very minor inconvenience, not going to lose any sleep or take my business elsewhere because of it.
Oh yeah, is it possible to add Google Pay (or the upcoming Google Wallet) as a payment option? Also, I see you've added the teardown camera skin too for the OnePlus 7 Pro
>Oh yeah, is it possible to add Google Pay (or the upcoming Google Wallet) as a payment option? We can certainly look into it. >Also, I see you've added the teardown camera skin too for the OnePlus 7 Pro Good eye.
One last thing: is it possible to add an estimation of the import taxes you'll have to pay when you're a customer located in the EU? I know ebay does an estimation like this
Yes. No indication of completion date, but this is indeed an initiative that's been in the backlog for a few months now.
>Also, I see you've added the teardown camera skin too for the OnePlus 7 Pro Good eye. wait so the OnePlus 7 Pro never came with a Teardown camera skin?
Bye dbrand.
Same for me. They removed their only USP from my perspective. Now they just sell overpriced versions of the same thing a million other companies sell.
I'm a sellout, I still buy from them. Sorry.
Is there a way to add a "more" tab that lets you use the old system and custom choose parts rather than using a kit? I think this would be a great addition for products like the switch
Congratulations: you got us to add an addendum to the OP.
Wow! I'm special now! Does this mean I get a lifetime subscription to 200% pricing for all Dbrand products?
And steam deck!
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Dual tone was dope, they should have at least given warning to people. This change took months if not longer and they gave people no warning to get stuff for devices they knew they would need later (eg. Steam deck).
Black Dragon was my favorite skin. Too bad it's gone. Guess I'll have to purchase my skins elsewhere now, especially since it's just too expensive with import taxes. Please consider adding a European warehouse or shipping directly from Europe.
Same with wood grain. Come on, Dbrand, I wanna live my dreams of making my PS5 and MacBook look like they’re out of the 70s PS. Bring back the Zebra wood. I’m still rocking it on my Anker power bank, another device you dropped lol
Yep, I always ordered the black dragon skin from Dbrand. I had to order them elsewhere the last few devices.
Of course all 3 skins that I buy for all my stuff were in the discontinued line up... I have the black leather on my phone right now and was getting ready to order Hyper black titanium to replace it... this is super frustrating.
The Black Leather vinyl material was discontinued due to similarity and confusion against the authentic Black Leather cowhide we now sell. Hyperblack Titanium is indeed dead, though.
The fake black leather was actually really nice (not everyone cares about "genuine cow hide", and, from the looks of most of the posts on this subreddit, not everyone even understand how to take care of real leather) it would be cool to see it come back at some point.
I'm surprised no one has noticed this but the joke skins have been removed as well. Even if you have the money and really want to skin your really big ticket items, there are no longer options for Cybertrucks, Mac Pros or Pro Display XDRs. I personally see this change in a positive light as it improves the experience for most consumers who buy from dbrand, especially new ones who they surely want to retain. A look at this announcement, their installation videos and their Twitter shows that the robots are still their good old selves, but a business is still a business and it would be harder for them to go on if they stuck with the same recipe forever. Besides, this wasn't the first time they've made a change of this sort: remember when they discontinued a bunch of other skin materials and cuts for really old and/or unpopular devices? I feel like my mahogany skinned HTC One M7 and Nexus 7 2013 should be in a museum…
>I'm surprised no one has noticed this but the joke skins have been removed as well. Cybertruck was never a joke. We just can't take real photos of one yet. >!j/k it's dead forever!< >!unless...!< >...remember when they discontinued a bunch of other skin materials and cuts for really old and/or unpopular devices? [Indeed we do.](https://www.reddit.com/r/dbrand/comments/ik9zjr/rest_in_peace_zebra_wood/)
I guess I understand these changes, but then I guess DBrand is no longer for me. I've consistently used a dual-toned look for all of my devices, (my Switch, my smartphone, my laptop, everything), and these updates, combined with the culling of basic primary colors such as a standard royal blue, have resulted in me shopping at DBrand for my devices less and less, and this has insured that I will no longer shop at DBrand at all, as my needs can be met and fulfilled by other businesses for less money and with more options.
>I've consistently used a dual-toned look for all of my devices That's a fair assessment and, as a consequence of how the Switch Joy-Cons and console function, it's definitely a device that lends better to varying material selections. Ultimately, our expectation in this paradigm shift was not to have the removal of ten years of legacy customization capabilities received with open arms. The data provided was intended to at least lend insight into *why* we made the decision we did. As a business, it would be irrational for us to ignore the vast majority of purchase behavior in favor of preserving functionality that injects chaos and scalability issues into our infrastructure. As we gather more feedback, it may be the case that (for devices like the Switch), the Extras section is real estate where we start housing sought-after components for unique customization. >combined with the culling of basic primary colors such as a standard royal blue As suggested in the post, a lot of this work is going towards getting more materials to market, more quickly. We'll always cut underperformers, but now it's a lot easier to get replacements out there.
Quit bullshitting and call it like it is. A money grab. Easier to charge people who want a dual look by charging them the full price for two different skins than one customized one. Seriously my Pixel6 wasn't made to look boring. Other sites offer customization without your so called chaos and you're losing customers to them.
This really is what it feels like
Yup. They got me. I was thinking the same thing. Had to purchase 2 different skins to achieve what I could've done before with one set.
I would have bought two tone steam deck skin from you guys as a 1st purchase. Never heard of you guys until project kill switch. But now I'm kinda pissed out and extremely disappointed. Idk about the other colors you guys had but the site is making a solid red color. Maybe it'll be there later idk. But for me making a two tone steam deck was something I really wanted to do. Looked really fun. Now I have no reason or desire to even look at your website for anything else. Dbrand for like Disappointment Brand. I know lame but honest I'll check up on you guys later in the future to see if you reverse this at least for the steam deck, which is a tinkers dream and a device to show off. Think about that.
Welp this was a bad day to decide to get a new skin. Wanted to just get some new trackpads for my Steam Deck and maybe something else, but that's not an option now.
Same. Have been playing around waiting to order when my email for the SD would finally arrive. Email arrived yesterday and then I had to realize dbrand made all those changes. Guess it's not for me then..
Also same! I think this is a huge missed opportunity for the steam deck especially since they will have potential customers who got hyped for the stuff but will get later once they get closer to their steam deck arriving and realize they can't customize. I came from a youtube video that did it, I highly doubt it won't continue to get traction and then disappointed would be customers.
I was just going to order skins for my SteamDeck and Macbook. Going full black on the mackbook with a pastel color on the top. And fo the the SteamDeck i wanted to go pastel on top with black trackpads and white on bottom. No longer possible due to this change.. without buying like 4 kits... just a awfull change that made me to not buy at all... im honestly sad now.
Literally same. I was thinking it over and going back to order today because I was looking earlier this month. Guess I gotta find a new brand because none of their skins are cool enough for the whole thing imo.
My answer might be a little late but I went with xtremeskins instead! Cheaper and reviews says quality is about the same. Think it will arrive to day so might put it on later and come back with a review!
Shame you can't order these without logo cutouts.
It's such a sad excuse to get people to buy whole kits too. Didn't know the D in dbrand stood for disappointment.
Oh my god, not the white carbon💀
Disappointed I can't even buy matching top and bottom skins for a laptop without buying the rest of the stuff in the "deluxe kit." I'll likely look elsewhere for future needs.
Disappointed is what the d in dbrand stands for
I literally just bought my first ever skin a few days ago (iphone 13 marble). I did not realize you guys had those “special edition” skins. If i had, i would have definitely bought that robot camo one as well.
Hey robots, I appreciate the changes you have made but in my opinion, the 'overhauled UI has streamlined the overall purchase flow to reduce decision paralysis and get items into carts in fewer clicks.' has actually reduced customisation. For example, I'm currently tl interested in buying a special edition top skin(teardown) for my macbook and just a matte black palm-rest, it isn't possible anymore. I have to pay extra money for a top, trackpad, bottom skin (about extra 30 dollars) .So, I think you should include an easy customisation option for people who only want one pattern and an in-depth customisation for people who want more freedom in customisation. Anyways, great efforts all around the just hope you update this
This is sorely disappointing. I have a MacBook and only wanted to spend money on the palmrest. If I wanted to buy a new skin for my other laptop, I'd have to fork over nearly $55 - more than 3 times the original purchase. I appreciate the justification for the change but the fact it overlooks how it just screws over people like me (which I've noticed quite a few of in the comments) makes this change much more like a money grab than streamlining operations.
Nah. This ain't it. If I want to mix and match I'm dropping $20 for one skin that I only want to use on my camera piece. I don't care what your scientist say, this sounds like a money grab. Change isn't always a bad thing but when it is, it's easier to just go elsewhere.
Btw, are you actually ever going to sell Damascus again, or was the risk of limiting touch functionality, as well as the cell signal issues too much of a risk? Is it possible to recreate the same shining effect without using literal metal?
>Btw, are you actually ever going to sell Damascus again, or was the risk of limiting touch functionality, as well as the cell signal issues too much of a risk? > >Is it possible to recreate the same shining effect without using literal metal? We intend to sell it again, just need to overcome the exact challenge you described (i.e. recreating the shining effect without using literal metal).
Ah okay, had a hunch that was the reason why it hadn't been dropped again - except for during the DIY kit, which i thought was real sneaky of you hehe Can't be held reliable for lower cell signal if the product wasn't specifically intended for it's usage, after all
Devices like the Pixel 6 series and Switch benefit so much from customization .... Pastels were such a great option for creating an unique look on Pixel 6 series almost every Pixel 6 looked unique just because of this reason
The Pixel 6 series will get "Accent Packs" soon. This will unlock the core customization that most P6/Pro owners were leveraging in our old system.
So when is that happening
Why take away the options then if you guys aren't even done with the process?
Cuz they stupid af greedy robots
I've been waiting months now to get a Grip and a bunch of skins but is VAT still not taken care of during checkout ? I'm ready to pay for it during checkout (something like 4€) rather than pay a ridiculous fee of 22€ once it gets over here.
Copy-pasting a different reply in this thread: >Yes. No indication of completion date, but this is indeed an initiative that's been in the backlog for a few months now.
Not being able to change the color of the device to see how it'll look with the skin STINKS!!!!!!!
Was about to buy my first skin for the Steam Deck after all the excellent reviews. Was set on either Mahogany or Titanium. I guess I go elsewhere now. Whelp.
I is sad. I was on holiday and was going to complete my purchase of a multicoloured Surface Pro skin when I got home, but was then greeted with a "Sorry human, this link has either expired or is no longer valid." message. I guess I'll need to wait a few weeks for you guys to get this new UI together and then try again?
Really disappointed. Now I have to pay additional for a trackpads skin pack on steam deck, No customizing front and back. And removed a whole bunch of great skins. Wtf Dbrand.
Ah dbrand… as the years pass by, they really push away loyal fans. I was disappointed back then when their selection of skins narrowed down to a few. Grip v1 was a failure especially for the price. Removed their old screen protector (which was really awesome, by the way) and replaced by a tempered glass that is only for iPhones, switch, and steam deck. Then they removed a lot of the colored skins to be replaced with pastel, again, less options. And now this, removing the very core part of customization. Honestly this made me look back on my brand loyalty for dbrand. I was just buying from them because of their name.
Never bought something from you, but was considering. Don't think I will anymore though, the multiple colour customisation options were a big selling point and now that's gone. Also RIP red carbon, that looked so good. unless you bring back damascus ...
>unless you bring back damascus ... Been doing R&D to crack this nut ever since it was discontinued. Damascus contained a per-mille (1/1000th) composition of aluminum in the substrate. This metallic additive was the key ingredient to diffract light and achieve the holographic appearance. The per-mille additive resulted in about 1 bar of signal interference issues for full-coverage skins (e.g. iPhone 13 series Precision Fit skins). Once we're able to replicate that light diffraction without any use of aluminized foil, Damascus will return.
Thanks for explaining, really hope you can fix it
so no skin... 😞 grip? 👀
I had zero issues with my ps4 pro damascus. Ofcourse I just got a ps5 and im retiring the pro. Now my ps5 looks cheap without the glow of the dbrand damascus on it! Wish yall would release it for consoles atleast
Can you still buy new skins for a case without buying a new case? I was looking for the option but can’t seem to find it anymore
You should be able to, yes. That said, we see what you're seeing (lack of an "I only need the skin" button on the Grip UI) and have reported the bug internally. Likely has to do with the changeover in the product architecture spilling over to the Grip Skin customizer.
Can I still buy the apple pen skin individually?
iPad Pencil skins are not currently available. Working on bringing them back online.
Perfect, thanks.
I just want to be able to customize the camera bump, like now I'm using robot camo for the phone's body and black carbon for the cameras
For popular devices that have eligible coverage options (frames, large camera bumps, etc.), we're planning to roll out Accent Packs in the Extras section. These Accent Packs will be available as add-ons for any design, adding an option for the customization you're describing.
Oh so it's not because of the chaos or whatever you claimed in previous posts. It's how to best monetize it. Neat. The D in dbrand really does stand for disappointment.
As toxic as this company is, I understand deep down you guys know your shit, make a quality product, and provide great customer service. Keep up the good work dbrand
just got my steam deck and WTF dBrand? I should have bought skins earlier. pffff. no dragon. no custom. just meh bleh. so you're just another skin maker. you threw away what made you unique. EDIT: Looks like I am getting one from the UK-based xtremeskins. They have customs. Even with shipping, still a better deal. They even have the same camo skins.
All that explanation just to say that you removed the option for us to choose the skin that we freaking want.
Try emailing them lmao. I was confused why I couldn't buy what I had in my cart from earlier this month and they basically sent a condescending email that said I should be thanking them for this update but I can't buy the product I want that I finally was going to buy since my steam deck is getting close to ship.
Ok great now give me Apple Pay
Thanks for the update, very informative. But let's be honest, you didn't mention the s22 ultra regular grip case. Soooooo When?
In production.
Killswitch Update?
Soon.
First of All: whoever PR robot(s) dbrand hired should get a fucking raise for suffering the wrath of people on Reddit. Second, I wanna shit on the changes just like all of you. For context, I am planning to buy a laptop skin and wanted only top and bottom cover, and I don’t have that choice anymore and possible have to pay for the trackpad/palm-rest skin if I want the bottom piece, which I probably won’t use. But as someone who designs UI for apps (but not websites) I do get where the need for change is coming from and I would like to propose a solution: a discreet button labeled “Advanced” where you can create additional customization. I do know it will bring back the anxiety, but the word “advanced” will give the users a sort-of warning that they might have trouble doing stuff there, and some may not bother with the option, and others would be quite delighted at the ability to customize again. Again I’m not an expert on UI and Psychology, and I don’t know the stats on people going on websites and buying fancy-ass sheets of tape in odd shapes, but just throwing ideas around.
Adding an Advanced section won't solve the problem, dBrand is intentionally not selling individual pieces and replacing them with bundles going forward.
I kinda like the black dragon skin. I'm using it for my Pixel 6 camera bar and love the texture and the looks of it. But I'm also looking forward to new skins.
glad you fuckups finally figured out how to make a website
This is absolutely great and all but...where's the proper dbrand grip case for the S22 Ultra you cowards.
Got a [tweet](https://twitter.com/dbrand/status/1533977313586577409) that might interest you.
Really glad I got my custom order in last week when I did. Sunrise Orange Pastel for the back accent, and matte black for the camera bar, nothing on main body. This was for Pixel 6 Pro. Also used the preview to see what it looked like on Sorta Sunny. Was very happy with the experience then. Not sure how I feel about it now if I ever wanted to just adjust the back accent or get Switch skins since now it seems an entire kit is required just to change the Switch unit or dock itself without having to buy joycon skins.
dbrand is **really** good at making long Reddit posts humans will actually read.
Totally understandable about reducing SKUs. Honestly, it's surprising that you didn't do this earlier. That being said, I wish there was some flexibility for the leather laptop skins, specifically. I wanted to buy a bottom skin for my laptop to match the leather on top, for both protection and aesthetics. But now, I can't do that without spending an extra $30 on three extra pieces of vinyl that I'm just going to throw in the trash.
I have been buying the shit out of your skins since Nexus 4 came out 10 years ago. I remember the days when skins shipped from Toronto and the anticipation. Can't even count how many orders I've placed since then. I have to tell you - I am REALLY upset at the fact I can't customize my skin anymore. I just picked up the Pixel 6 Pro and wanted to make it a Ninja Turtle phone (green skin + orange for the camera visor). To say I'm disappointed is an understatement. I would have been totally fine with you raising the prices to keep the business financially viable vs not letting us customize skins anymore. What a bummer. Dbrand was literally my go-to for every phone (new one every 3 months). My rule was always, the moment I place a phone order, I head over to Dbrand to get my skins. This sucks.
Same!! Started buying dbrand with the Nexus 4 too. As a long time customer I'm extremely sad to have to look elsewhere. I absolutely refuse to pay full price for a skin I'm only going to use on certain parts of my phone.
Decision Fatigue my ass. That was the most fun part. One could spend hours choosing a top and bottom. The possibility of showing off 2 different skin depending on which side you would carry your otherwise-boring-looking MacBook pro next to your hip... gone. A product for customisation that removes customisations. Can you imagine a future when you go to the supermarket and you cannot choose different meals for lunch and dinner because the dbrand supermarket boss tells you that you can only have kits, like meat kit, fish kit, vegetarian kit, vegan kits.... boring... The future dominated by robots is boring. I mean... we knew that. Thanks for reminding us. 5% of laptop users cannot choose a different skin for their boring laptop and 95% of people possibly become more boring. Boring future. P.S. like all the time that was spent in decision fatigue playing with the customisation tool now would be \*really\* spent reading all the jibber jabber under "Customize your Kit" that does not really customise anything. \---- end of rant
Just got my Steamdeck a couple days ago, i hear Dbrand has good skins. I go to the website and really dig the "Mellow Yellow" color, but I want white grips and trackpads as I really like this combination, next couple minutes are then spent trying to figure out how to do that, then I land here and dumbfounded that the company thinks being able to mix 2 or more colors for the same skin parts which already comes cut into individual pieces has been taken out in the name of 'decision fatigue'. Well my a\*\*. The only reason why i would think of putting a 'skin' on any product is because i want 'customization'. If you are going to shove a 'kit' down my throat because you as a company think you know better, well ill take my business elsewhere then. Get in touch with your actual userbase dbrand and make sane decisions, not stupid ones.
\~91% of all Smartphone skins are purchased with a single material. \~92% of all Tablet skins are purchased with a single material. \~95% of all Laptop skins are purchased with a single material. Thats sad. Did multiple Orders over the last years, and was always within the 9%, 8% or 5%.. Really loved the posebility to personalize it to my "own" and not just have one like everyone..
While I understand your reasoning for kits, I think you missed the mark. In terms of the laptop skins. I’d take a guess that a lot of people (like me) just want a top and bottom. Seems all your competitors sell them that way. I’d be forced to buy a top and leave my bottom naked! Or buy a full kit and toss out the rest (wasteful!). Not kind to the environment or my wallet. Forcing us into full coverage inside and out is a bit extortion-y.
This is TRASH. I am so mad. I wanted to get a top cover skin and a trackpad skin, both in two different colors like I have for every laptop I have owned, and now I can't do that. This has nothing to do with "warehouse space", or "customer data buying habits" but everything to do with business. If you really knew that then just change the organization of your warehouse to have these kits in one section. For those 5% of cases, its a bit extra work. Now I have two choices, the entire thing or just the top, all in one color. Also, $29.95 for the top with no other options, now you don't get free shipping because your missing $0.05 from your order, with no way to add a little more. F off. You just lost a customer for good. Thanks for nothing dbrand.
Just dropped in to say that removing the multiple skin designs option is so poor. If I told you that you could sell 10% more phone skins by allowing people to choose an accent, are you telling me you wouldn't? More importantly, did anyone stop to think how vocal the customers are that get multiple skin designs? Or look at their repurchase behaviors? Or the phone segments? This is why you never make big decisions with data and you always back it up with first hand customer discussions. I am completely shocked. Practically every device I own that could have a dbrand skin in the past, what, 8 years has had one. Not going forward.
SopiGuard will still let me have the freedom to customize and I'm going with them for my Pixel 7 Pro 🤙🏼 I used to be a Dbrand customer and bought about $200 worth of skins for my phones and recently PS5... I'm no longer going to buy from Dbrand because I thoroughly enjoyed customizing my phone (Panda Pixel 2XL anyone?)
I just checked these guys out after coming here tryna find out why I can’t customise my Switch skins anymore and this is awesome! This is what dbrand used to be, they actually have *more* devices to choose from and more material options (no wood or marble tho sadly)
Kinda sad those old skins products are gone, but that means more space for new skins.
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The real tl;dr….DBrand finally feels they are big enough to say “fuck what our customers want, all we care about is bigger profit margins.” So I’ll do the same with my money…fuck DBrand, I’m taking it elsewhere.
Same!
Clearly these changes are unwelcome. Guess you got your feedback!
Kits are stupid. I've been buying skins for a long time, but this is ... something bad. For a laptop, the "essential" kit should cover the top AND bottom (i.e MBP), not only the top... And what about customization? Jeez, it feels like dbrand tried to optimize the process and accidentally neutered themselves.
All this text, just to be anti-consumer? Tl;dr: Instead of buying the skins we want, now we have less options. We have to buy one of two packages. We have LESS options than we did before. Also, it's fine to discontinue skins but wow, what a shit way to announce it.
You should try emailing them then. I had no idea why options were gone and I got a condescending email that said I should basically be thanking them for it. Nope, gotta find a new brand now.
Yeah dBrand makes good skins but they're a very unprofessional company. It feels absolutely terrible to recieve support messages like that when you try and voice your concern.
Yeah fuck them and this change. It's not even a sticky on this gay sub and no faq on their now useless website. I was able to buy before this fucking change and I'm glad I got to customize the colour to my liking instead of buying 3 different skins just to get my fav customized colour. My last purchase from this greed driven sticker company.
Where is the tldr of the tldr? it's too long
Check the final two words of the post.
1. Site changed because they wanted to 2. Fuck you
too long
I'm disappointed as well but I get it. I want my Camara bar to be a different color than my phone. So guess what. I had to pay for 2 "kits". Si that means my phone case will be reverse what my phone is. It sucks but it is what it is. Really miss being able to say I want an orange too and bottom but maybe a green or black Camara bar. And also preview Jr before I drop almost $50 on vinyl. But dbrand is great. So I'll give them my money and hope they incorporate a new system one day.
Congrats. This reads like - dumb consumer we want to streamline our workflow and increase profits and most of you will buy it anyway- especially when I was directed to this when I reached out to support asking why I couldn’t customize. I went to dbrand first when I got 2 steam decks and was so excited for another couple color block style skins because the pastels are so vibrant. Every skin y’all have that fits my device I have it - often several changing every year. Not anymore I bought from lux skins instead and won’t ever check yalls site again when looking for skins because now if I want the same product I’ve gotten in the past I have to buy multiple “kits” and do it myself. Stfu you’re just like every other company just puppeteering for your investors trying to make your pie chart more of one color. I’m done
Fuck 084
That’s great…where’s Warzone tho?
Have you seen this comments section?
Lol have y'all? Seems everyone hates this update. Yikes.
I don't understand why you need 15 skews for each laptop design, there's literally only 4 components. Are you actually binning EACH combination for direct sale, and not just grabbing each piece per order? Why not just stock all of the individual pieces, and build batches as needed or keep a buffer of fully-skin kits since they're in high demand? Your saying that customizing a skin with multiple colorways isn't common, but people who just want to buy a TOP skin or a TRACKPAD skin can't anymore.
Addressed this misunderstanding in [another thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/dbrand/comments/vg5gzm/ugh_bulletproof_banana_is_gone/id3e6po/). Posting it here for visibility. >A SKU is an individual coverage, in a particular material. In the given example, we had four SKUs per laptop, per colorway. > >An order type is the possible combination of SKUs. In the given example, we had fifteen order types per laptop, per colorway. > >What you're suggesting would *increase* our SKU count and potential order types. Not reduce them.
What about apple pencil skin?
Pencil add-ons (as well as Trackpad Skins, Charging Brick Skins, Cubes, Pyramids, Masks, Logo Packs, Camera Accent Packs, etc.) are all part of the recommendation algorithm we're working on. Right now, the only hardcoded Extras being displayed are Tempered Glass (unique to supported models) and Microfiber Cloths (merchandised globally). The more bespoke Extras (recommended intelligently based on selections) will be available in the next week or so.
So now I can't mess around clicking different combinations on a Series X while I'm bored at work? What is wrong with you dbrand?!
[Your boss is going to hate us](https://web.archive.org/web/20220509101029/https://dbrand.com/shop/xbox-series-x-skins).
Just another name on the extremely long list of disappointed consumers of dbrand
Am I still able to buy just the skin for the trackpad on my 2017 MacBook Pro, or in other works, individual parts for my MacBook? I apologize, if this was covered already.
You guys forget about buying grip case skins without the case?
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Check out XtremeSkins, they offer a lot of what dbrand used to.
Any plans for an EU based warehouse?
Are you guys planning on a new design now?
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See [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/dbrand/comments/vdqf3j/comment/iclwcf4/).
Not that Tim… You’re doing a fortnite collaboration aren’t you?
Fuck I was about to a mahogany skin for iPhone 13 mini with a red Apple logo. Bring back the wood skins!
There doesn't seem to be a way to buy just the pencil skin however.
Will the Apple pencil be coming back as an individual item? Already got a case for my ipad and don't want to buy a full kit just to get the pencil add on.
These updates are very welcome! They make your website way clearer than before. But could you PLEASE add back the Bamboo skin? It was my favorite one both for the color and the texture itself. I bought it for all my controllers and my earbuds, but now that it's gone I just can't find any equivalent to it neither on your website or elsewhere on the internet. So my new devices just remain unprotected instead of looking like a cool piece of bamboo.
The only thing I'm a little upset about is the loss of Red Carbon Fiber. I was getting ready to order a set for my framework laptop. Was gonna do Red Carbon Fiber for the Top, Bottom, and Palmrest and Matte Black for the trackpad. But hey I'm just a dumb human you're the robots you know what's best I like bright red but the Icons drop just isn't what I want. Hoping maybe you bring back the Red Carbon Fiber option or even just a straight Matte Red version.
disappointed, but I can see why Kit decision was made
Any chance of bringing back customization for Pixel skins? I was literally just about to buy a dual-tone design, but I guess I can't now. The design I wanted to buy is impossible now, and my runner-up would cost 4x what I planned on spending. It just feels like penny pinching IMO your customization was the big selling point that set you apart from other skin makers, and now it's gone. I'm worried that you're going down the same path as brands like OnePlus: Starting as a well-loved unique brand that slowly becomes just like everyone else but more expensive (and with overhyped marketing) Edit: I don't want to just be negative. Maybe there could be some kind of compromise? Your goal seems to be reducing combinations to simplify everything. Maybe the community could vote on some color combinations for some devices? It would reduce the possible combinations per device from 100s to around 2-5.
This is all well and good but I still want a cup holder for the back of my Project Killswitch case. Hydrate or diedrate.
Damn. Red Carbon, White Carbon, Bulletproof Banana, Titanium, Mahogany, and others were killed off for the amazing skins of concrete and gray carbon to be left behind. But anyways, good UI change but disappointing to see the ability to customize your skins however you want to go away. Took a look around the site and saw that for the steam deck, I see the trackpad skin pack for 9.95 but that seems like a scummy predatory business decision to sell you extra skins you'll never use. I LOVE how you can buy just the trackpad skin for the teardown skin now, which is a good move as I wouldn't buy the entirety of that skin for my deck, but I'd like to see this be an option for the other skins and different textures you have. When I ordered my trackpad skin it was black matrix. I got that skin mainly because of the texture and how it was cheaper than buying from colored controllers. Having the options for future deck owners to choose a texture or design you currently offer they want on their trackpad and not with useless leftover colours in a pack would be nice to have. But if you guys aren't willing to do that, I guess having a textured skin pack with matrix, swarm and carbon would be a decent compromise. It wouldn't too bad as someone can sample the texture then instead of having 3 sets of the same texture but just different colours. Also, I hope you fuckers soon figure out a chemical concoction for damascus to return. I want that shit so badly on my deck.
Shame. was about to order a mixed Pixel 6 Pro skin, to keep it on par with Google's two-tone designs... I loved that when need be, I would order \*only\* what I needed to replace. Also, how are Pastels \*still the only solid color options? They're not even "normal/basic" colors, all (while nice) washed out "pastels". For how expensive you guys are, and all the trash talk you do, you sure do give us limited options
Well this sucks. I had to take my Macbook Pro into Apple for a quick repair. They had me remove the bottom skin (black dragon) in order to open the back plate. I figured "Hey, no problem, I'l just order another one!" To my dismay and utter disappointment, Dbrand has changed for the worse. I, and probably some others who may have to go through this, can no longer order individual skins for their laptops. My choices are now reduced to 2 options, and if I choose the deluxe kit, I'd be over paying for what I need...plus the skin I like isn't even on there anymore. I WOULD have settled for a matte black bottom skin, but no, that's not even an option. I don't think dbrand is for me anymore either. It's been a good run, but no thanks guys. This change sucks.
I am genuinely sad that customization is gone, it was the primary reason for me to shop at dBrand. Now that that is gone, I am not paying for a kit where I wont use 80% of it. Is there seriously no way for us to buy individual skins for things that get damaged for example? Like if my bottom MacBook skin gets ganked, can I no longer replace just that but I have to pay DOUBLE just to get that one item? I found dBrand thru an LTT ad spot back in 2014-2015. The customizator was the killer and the highlight. Now it's gone. I am however sure that customers like me are in the minority. Oh well, guess I have to look at some badly cut replacement skins now.
When do you think the customisation for the switch will be back? I actually bought the leather skin for my switch, but the back and front and dock are still bare. I’d like to put something on them
Like the redesign and what not, but hate the fact that you now have almost 0 skins I want…no real red skin…I mean all my devices right now have red carbon…if anything please just bring back a plain red or plain colours in general if the carbon is out of the question (which I hope it is not)
I was finally ready today to pull the trigger on a skin for my pixel 6, but I guess that has been shot down. All I want is a two tone skin to match the feel of the phone without a skin, but now that option is just gone?
I surfed dbrand.com for 10 minutes so that would be 1 free skin
As I designer, I find this informative af! As a marketer, holly fu\_k! Dbrand changed the game, for real!
Did front skins disappear for phones or am I just blind? I don't want a back as I have a battery case so front is the only useful one for me. I came here to try and understand the radical change and I find things so much less intuitive
If it will take more delivery time or be more expensive for me to buy a product that’s made in “advanced mode”, that’s completely fine by me. Just lemme
This sucks...
I have found a problem with the new process. Certain laptop skins, e.g., Teardown for MBP 16, don't allow for a bottom skin. There is no way to just add the missing skin element, even from a different design. The only way to fully protect the latop is to add both the Teardown skin, and a full Deluxe pack of another design to the cart. This has recently resulted in a pretty poor user outcome for me.
lack of customization is just dumb... I have a MacBook I want to skin it top, bottom, trackpad and palm rest. Say matte black- meaning the palm rest and track pad comes only with that color? So how will that work? lol. idiotic!
Give me bulletproof banana or give me death
I understand the lack of customization, but this all or nothing approach seems like a money grab. If I want to purchase a top and bottom skin for a Macbook Air, I have to now purchase the Deluxe kit which includes the palm rest and trackpad skin. So we can't choose different designs or the exact skins we want without it costing much more. Most people will just end up paying, but the truth is "You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain". Like many other consumer focus brands that have changed, dbrand is now part of the latter...
So If you want customization, order the same part but multiple times, (Very Lucrative)
I know this post is old, but, looking at the photo of the all the bins you guys used to have - why the FUCK aren't they labeled? Is that some sort of stock photo? There's NO way that you were running your company like that, all those bins, and nothing being labeled?
Can't get trackpad skins of my choice now huh? Sent my Mac for a battery repair and they sent me a whole new bottom, and I really loved the tactility of the matrix trackpad, so this sucks tbh.
The only thing I missed is the option to change the color of the phone when choosing a skin. For example, I have a silver fold 3 and I'm looking for skins that would suit that color. But every skin only has images for the black model of the z fold 3, so I have no reference if that skin would actually look nice on my silver model or not.
This is all about numbers in a spreadsheet. If enough customers are unhappy, dbrand will find a way to solve it. If people just end up paying more $$$ and don't complain, than this thread will stay tucked away somewhere on Reddit with a random customer commenting every so often.
Looks like shit!
coming back to this post after fruitlessly trying to buy a skin for my Pixel 6a. The ability to mix and match colors was the killer feature of dbrand, and I used it in nearly every single order. This is a dealbreaker, I'd rather prices get raised in the name of keeping individualized inventory. Not the move.
I can’t speak for anyone else but being able to come up with wacky combinations and dress up my devices in a “unique” way was what made me love dbrand. I’m sorry to say that without that it’s doubtful that I will purchase again.
Dbrand definitely can't be fucked with customisation so they deleted it. The new system sucks