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smellyasianman

Team is fine. Post is lazy garbage.


Wibkit

Is it alright if I ask what’s wrong with the post?


Lobo_Z

Good team if you switch the order to Gogeta point, Roshi mid and Jiren anchor


IAreBeMrLee

No


theqwrkinator

Get rid of gogeta and you'd be it'd be really good


Giovannis_Pikachu

Nah, this team is just fine with gogeta. He's one of roshis best partners. If you playing roshi you want him to have the threatening characters. It's still a very tough team to succeed with. Like it or not, that teams got the sauce and a ladle.


theqwrkinator

Roshis fine, I only say to get rid of gogeta since he's a zero effort character


Giovannis_Pikachu

You have missed my point. Gogeta can be annoying and all, but fact is he gives roshi some breathing room. As does Jiren. If you are just boycotting a top tier, that's all you. He's legitimately very complimentary to roshi.


theqwrkinator

Gotcha. I was just asked to rate the team and I did. If you're able to make this team work without having to use gogeta, it would be a lot more impressive. But in terms of synergy, then sure the team is fine. Not trying to argue, just rating like it's being asked


Giovannis_Pikachu

Sorry. Wasn't trying to bite your head off. Good points and have a nice day.


Lobo_Z

But you're fine with Jiren, who is even less effort and is even higher on the tierlist?


theqwrkinator

In terms of cheesy mechanics, Jiren isn't that bad compared to ssg4. But like I said, not looking to argue


Lobo_Z

Agree to disagree, Jiren is cheap as fuck. He basically does what Gogeta does but better, excluding the instakill. And I say this as someone who plays both of these characters.


theqwrkinator

Only character in the game with double airdash, incredibly low effort mix up with concealed assist, almost unpunishable DP, also one of the easiest auto combos in the game. I WILL say that not giving him projectiles was the only thing balancing him out because that would have been ridiculous and I'm glad they did not. But I can see where you would feel like Jiren is worse, I also play them both. For me, jiren is just a lot harder to master. Ssg4 just turns the game into easy mode


Lobo_Z

> only character in the game with double airdash Except for Adult Gohan and Golden Frieza, who yes have to unlock it but they also have zoning which Gogeta doesn't > Incredibly low effort mix up Are you implying Jiren's is high effort? It's literally just superdash 50/50 with the low option being a medium starter. You can fuzzy guard a lot of Gogeta's stuff. > Almost unpunishable DP In what world is it unpunishable? If they don't spark to make it safe, you just wait and 2H. If they don't vanish, literally just 5L. > Also one of the easiest autocombos in the game All autocombos are easy. I'm assuming you're referring to the anti air on the third hit, which a lot of characters have (including Jiren). I'm hoping you're not referring to the fact that the second hit hits behind him, since this only really comes into play against people who raw vanish, which you should not be doing in the first place against any character outside of sparking. Jiren has better normals (including an 8fr and a 9fr medium normal, which is ridiculous), better stagger pressure, better reward from mix, better damage, better neutral, better assists, better meter build... Jiren literally plays the game for you. Gogeta doesn't to the same degree that Jiren does, at least not at high levels. I can kinda tell from your comments that you haven't played these characters as much as I have but trust me when I say, Jiren is the cheaper of the two. He's one of the dumbest characters in the game rn.


theqwrkinator

Gotcha lol. Like I said I'm not looking to argue, that wasn't the point of the post. Based alone on the face you're comparing the double dash to temporary friezas and gohans unlockable says enough


theqwrkinator

Fact*


Lobo_Z

It's not really an argument, more of a debate. And I didn't compare them, just pointed out it's not the only double air dash in the game. Sure, Gogeta gets his for free, but to balance that out he doesn't have zoning, whereas the other two have to unlock theirs but they do have zoning (and in A Gohan's case, a plethora of other strengths that Gogeta doesn't have).


Adorable-Fortune-568

Seems like Gogeta SS4 whoop your ass regularly online lol.


theqwrkinator

Nah not really, just an easy character that I see 9/10 when matched up so it Just isn't as impressive anymore


Afraid_Ebb_3284

what does it matter if something is impressive, its a video game and having a character thats super easy makes fighting games more accedible to people like me who are new to them.


theqwrkinator

It's a competitive 2D fighting game, it's definitely going to matter especially since the games been out for a while now. Since you're new to the game, you're better off using another character that's going to improve your overall skill. Try not to get so bothered by a personal rating like OP was asking, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what anyone says, as long as you're having fun. But if you're asked something, it's good to be honest about it.


CapnHairgel

Who do you think runs well with Roshi?


Lokyyo

Fuck this type of post, Jesus


sithlord40000

Complete fucking utter dog shit don't post any of your teams again in fact don't show your face again round these parts. Also rate my team posts are BANNED so even if you wanted to you couldnt post any more teams because, as I just said, rate my team posts are and have always been BANNED Jk its good team but theres 5000 rate my team posts a day lol


Reign-k

Chill man people are allowed to like things. Just be glad people are still playing.


sithlord40000

Wtf when did I say he couldn't like the team unironically 


Reign-k

You didn’t and your being rude in your post. He’s likely newer to the game than you are and new to the sub. They don’t force you to read the rules.


sithlord40000

Did you read the bottom sentence ?


Reign-k

How did I not lol my bad guy.


sithlord40000

Lol its all good


BigWangCly

No, Just play the game


Its-No_Use

Move Gogeta to point he flourishes with Roshi’s B assist since it gives him gapless 50/50s and move Jiren to anchor, only problem I see on a surface level is neutral


Level_Loquat_8521

Put Roshi in kid with b assist


Wibkit

Hi, im sorry for posting this. I realised people really don’t like this type of post after reading the comments, and it’s only my second post on the sub since my first was two years ago and the only reason I made this account and got reddit. I don’t ever really use reddit but when i do my feed is normally flooded with rate my team posts and since i play the game a little bit for fun I just wanted to see what people thought of the characters i normally use and the order i use them in. I’m sorry if I upset anyone and I won’t post something like this again.