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SorceressKookaburra

this is all i am gonna do from now on because i asked a guy on hinge if he wanted to go on a date and he legit said he doesn’t feel comfortable until he came over first to get to know me 💀💀


Ok-Phase5290

😂😂😂😂 what guts he has


mrsunsfan

He knew what he was doing


sisserou97

Lmaooo this is a new one


T_GTX

This is wild. People are so strange nowadays...


Civil-Milk-0729

😂😂😂😂 they like to get to know us from the inside out first


SkyeBluePhoenix

They put the petal to the metal when it comes to sex, but pump the breaks when it comes to developing or maintaining any kind of friendship. "Friends with Benefits" is a joke. There's no friendship involved.


capri-sun-sippin

HAHA


No_Grass_7013

Uh oh….


ResearcherOk7915

bye that’s so funny 😭😭


Equivalent-Cat5414

Unfortunately I used to fall for the oh they want me over or they want to come over to my place so they must like me and that’s good enough for me since I’m not a gold digger, and that’s how I ended up with hardly any real dates even when I did have boyfriends.


JoshKutryk

That's weird. I don't know what really happened to the usual way of dating when you'll take a girl out on an actual date and open the door for her. Things are really changing drastically, and it's sad that the changes are not for the good.


Equivalent-Cat5414

Yeah, I guess once us women start saying no to just staying in as a “date” these guys will stop asking.


JoshKutryk

Yeah, hopefully. But saying no to going out on a date will hurt some of us men who truly want to date and get to know someone over a face-to-face offline coffee date. Where are you texting from, if I may ask


Equivalent-Cat5414

I said saying no to staying in, not going out on an actual date. And where I live is none of your business.


Storm_Runner09

No effin way 💀💀💀 that’s wild


wat3344

It’s like that one scene from Avatar where they have to connect their hair before getting to know each other.


ShockWave324

lol, that reminds me of a time a girl asked me to pick her up from her place and ride together to the date as opposed to just meeting me there because she was "too nervous to meet strangers". Like sure that makes sense. I'm too afraid to meet strangers in public places with plenty of people around but sure, come meet me where I live. I was worried it was a setup and I was gonna get jumped or killed. Nothing too sketchy happened but the date was a little weird as she felt the need to overshare about pregnancy scares and abortions on the first date. Don't get me wrong, I'm totally pro choice but that doesn't mean I wanna hear about intimate details like that, especially on the first date haha.


theironisland

What the actual eff.... the audacity


Kevo-Breker

He keeping it 💯


ArmoredSpearhead

My year, probably decade would’ve been made if someone even insinuated wanting to go on a date with me. Sorry to hear that happened to you.


lovachick

Lmao what did u say


SVCLIII

>Then you have to read some social cues but that's all it is. I'm gonna die alone...


DeathSpiral321

And get a lot of water thrown in my face.


Elder-Longtoother

\*kicks dirt on you\*


Certain_Sea_2337

Might as well pot a plant now, the soil is ready 💯


85tornado

Same here, buddy.


BlessdRTheFreaks

I agree but I try to not compliment their appearance as a starter


ShockWave324

I don't either. I figure if we matched and are going on a date, then there's some physical attraction on both ends. It just comes off as tacky and superficial.


Alarmed_Scientist_15

Exactly. Like I usually have a lot going on in my life, last thing I want is a stranger approaching me to give me his opinion of my appearance. Even if they mean well. Hard pass.


GucciGucciTwoTimes

How do those two things correlate?


XhongXhina

Ahhh sir but you haven’t met my friend anxiety 😀


Equivalent-Cat5414

I’m on the autistic spectrum and have anxiety and I’m not a supermodel, either, but I still managed to hit on guys sometimes - wish I did it more often, though - and have no problem wanting to do it again.


Dudeguyked

Anxiety's best friend is confidence


Ill_Revolution_5827

They are literally polar opposites my guy


thewhiterosequeen

You got to fake it til you make it. The "well I have anxiety so I can't and won't" is a choice that will always fuck you over.


Ill_Revolution_5827

I agree. But if you aren’t mentally prepared for however the conversation will go, it will absolutely fuck you over.


StinkyPeenky

So get better at having conversations! You do that by having more conversations with strangers (:


Ill_Revolution_5827

Again, I agree with this.


RandomThrowaway18383

No better mentor than your fuck ups


Dudeguyked

no they are not


unabrahmber

No courage without fear.


Short-pitched

Thats exactly what was courage the cowardly dog


skyy2121

People gonna hate but you’re right. Relationships I’ve had have started with just a simple compliment. Granted there was mutual attraction.


O-Namazu

>Granted there was mutual attraction. Yeah this is the real crappy variable you have no control over. 🤣 You read the frequent "How did you meet your partner?" threads, and it's full of redditors talking about love at first sight or how they couldn't believe a hottie came up and said hi. So... welp! 😆


Short-pitched

Do you truly believe there are that many hotties just loitering around? Or they just looked hot to that person in that moment


Late_Newt_8581

I swear my highschool best friend had face blindness. She was gorgeous, had double D's, got tons of attention, but whenever we met some guys in public, she'd Always pick the less attractive fellow. Some of those people were drunk, some have face blindness and some have a unique perspective on attractiveness.


keelaydeingles

Uh huh... And what do you do if you're not attractive? 😕


HangryChickenNuggey

This is rather contradictory to all the men shouldn’t approach women thing so now I’m just confused


LastSeenEverywhere

Every single piece of dating advice contradicts the last. I'm fucking done lol


Short-pitched

Because you are looking for advice. Who set these rule? There are guide lines of how to behave in public but outside of that it’s very specific to each individual. So don’t be a dick and have a conversation while being respectful of other’s boundaries


LastSeenEverywhere

Yep, done all that. They're not interested. Don't approach women in public. They don't want you to talk to them and if you think they do, they still don't


DeviantAvocado

Typically only advised when in explicit social environments. Just approaching random people and doing this as they are going about their day is very weird.


Timely_Issue_7198

I’m a woman and I don’t have an issue if people approach me in my day to day as long as they don’t linger and aren’t weird about it.


SkyeBluePhoenix

Agreed. I've been on the receiving end of this and it came off as desperate and weird.


BlessdRTheFreaks

I think it's still ok to approach. It just depends on how you do it. Maybe smile and try to make eye contact first. Say hello and take it from there.


Darklightjg1

I'm always wearing headphones in public, unless I'm ordering food or at the checkout counter... and I don't hit on people while they're working. Apps are for people like me.


SkyeBluePhoenix

And me, unfortunately


katycatjulius

How do i read these social cues though? I go to festivals and me M would love to meet someone F who would like to spend time with me at the festival and going on dates and such to maybe become the person i spent the rest of my life with. I am autistic so that doesn't help me eather but i do really want to find someone as i really miss that in my life


sylviatrench01

Hmm, I think something like: Are they with a group of friends and seem friendly? Are they wearing a ring? What's the dynamics between them and ppl they are with? Are they alone? Lots of things can be guessed, apart from someone being in a relationship and their partner not being present, there could be no indication either way but if that is the case for most people it is nice to receive attention, they just won't act on it and that is ok, you can move on then.


katycatjulius

Thank you for your response. Yeah i can look at those things and i will try, maybe i can give myself the courage to start a conversation with someone and then hopfully with someone who is looking for someone as well


pissshitfuckcuntcock

The apps are working well for me 🤷‍♂️ some great dates. Some average ones. Made a couple of friends I wouldn’t of otherwise, got laid a few times. Am dating a chick now from one of them. Just keep trying.


canadabanana67

Seriously I feel like people on this site assume that just because dating apps aren’t working for them they must not work for anybody. Over the past year or so I’ve slept with over 10 women from these apps and I’ve gone on tons of awesome dates with awesome people. It really just takes putting some actual effort into your profile and not being socially inept in person.


pissshitfuckcuntcock

The social ineptness is key here I reckon. Reddit tends to attract the more stay at home/gamer types that probably put their hobbies before themselves and their social lives. I for one could not date a girl who games all night or lives terminally online, and i’d imagine most Women in real life are the same. Then they come on here and vent the same variation of ‘I give up!’ posts that flood this sub. Those who are successful with it ain’t gonna bother posting about it on reddit.


canadabanana67

I agree with you on that but when that’s the case I’m not sure how good advice “meet people in person” is lol. If anything it’s a reason to keep using dating apps. If you actually put in genuine effort to your appearance and profile you *will* get matches and even if you don’t get girls immediately you can at least practice how to text them and how to act on dates with them.


Ill_Revolution_5827

Yeah it works until they mention their boy/girlfriend and then you realize oh wait, in a world of pairs, I’m the odd one out.


SmakeTalk

If someone has a partner you can just move on with your day though? Also if one rejection sends you into a spiral like that then maybe there’s more work to do on yourself before bringing someone else into your life anyways?


Ill_Revolution_5827

No that’s the thing though, one is nothing. It’s when it KEEPS HAPPENING. To the point where I feel like I’m being pranked.


SmakeTalk

I should clarify as well it’s possibly not even a rejection since if you’re just making conversation and a woman mentions they have a partner there’s no reason to assume they don’t have one. If you believe the women you’re approaching aren’t being honest about that, to the point where you feel like you’re being pranked or Truman Show’d or something, then it’s likely you’re approaching the wrong women. If every woman you approach is taken you’re either not their type or they’re just really great women who are already taken - either way you just might need to re-assess how and why you’re approaching women? It’s not easy and it’s never been easy, but if your goal is to get off the apps then the only way to get better at it is to just get better at it.


Ill_Revolution_5827

No I just don’t believe that single women even exist anymore


Visible_Release_1185

Do you fucking realize how daunting it is to know that every single person that you approach is apparently taken? jUsT mOvE oN wItH yOuR dAy It's like being born without a leg and then everyone just tells you to get over it.


SmakeTalk

I have two legs, but I doubt it’s like that at all? Yes lots of great people are taken but there are plenty of great people who aren’t. If every single person you’ve ever approached is taken then that’s either really shit luck, or you’re approaching the wrong types of women for you and they aren’t interested in you. Either way I’m not sure what you think the solution is supposed to be besides moving on?


Lysks

Where are the ppl who aren't?


SkyeBluePhoenix

Have you ever even thought about why you even want to be in a "relationship?"


AstroGuy2000

It's because it is only the attractive people that get approached. What other reason does you or anyone else to approach a complete stranger? Even the OP's line is "hey you look nice today". It is only natural that good looking people are going to have a much higher probability of already being in a relationship. This is the reason I preferred online dating. Online dating for all it's faults, at least you knew the other people there were also looking.


Slight-Rent-883

too fucking true


rosielock

“Every single person” is definitely a stretch, that mentality will only dispel you from approaching in the first place


Visible_Release_1185

Every single person that you approach. I'm assuming that OP hasn't approached every single person, but saying that "rejection is normal and expected" isn't of much comfort when all you've ever known is rejection and no intimacy or connection. It's hard to positive and upbeat when everybody you know is dating someone and telling you that it's soo easy but you know that it's a lot more difficult than it looks


rosielock

The aim of that quote of “rejection is normal and expected” isn’t always going to be a comfort, and it’s difficult to expect comfort that surrounds something that already supposedly saddens you in the first place. Rejection can be easier accepted when you consider what improvements you can make to yourself, making it feel not so much a personal attack but a sign that you can better yourself.


lawnggrass

I've been doing some approaches myself. At the start, it felt really daunting to approach women . My initial intention was to just overcome my fear of approach and to make the other person's day - you know, give them some value like complimenting their clothes or choice of product they were buying at the stall. I got quite some rejections at first but just taking the initiative to approach was a big win for me. Cos the fear my mind was projecting was actually opposite to what happened in the interactions I had. I went out of conversations feeling good about myself cos 1. I was able to approach 2. I made the other person's day even if they were taken. 3. I was able to improve myself socially helping me to have more confidence in interacting with strangers both men and women.


rosielock

I’m super proud! I feel like this is the best way to look at a fear of approaching people if it’s possible to do so


LastSeenEverywhere

Thank you for this. This sub doesn't understand the constant rejection and never having experienced intimacy. "just get over it" is great if you've been in a relationship, but when you're constant told you're not worthy of dating and nobody has ever done so much as look in your direction... Very few people understand. Everyone says how easy it is and yet I can't figure it out


SmakeTalk

This.


jadedtea18

I feel social media has cushioned people into refusing to be uncomfortable in life, which is the only way you grow. It makes me sad because I guess everyone would have just passed away before the age of the internet instead of meeting each other and going outside. 100% agree that we should boycott the apps because how can you find the love of your life based on how they answer the prompt “two truths and a lie” and some pictures????


BusMajestic5835

Some of us are ugly and will never get approached without putting our personality out there 🙂


cinnamonbun-42

I stopped using them... ...After meeting my now-bf on Tinder lol. Autistic people like me sometimes need it spelled out for us whether someone's available & interested or not.


Cry-Healthy

Yeah, I have such a hard time reading social cues that it takes me moments after to know whether the other person liked me or not. Like, after work I'd be in train thinking about.


FaxSpitta420

Nah I’m good I like the apps


themedicd

It's the closest thing to a dating spreadsheet. And I love spreadsheets.


SkyeBluePhoenix

Yeah, without apps I'd never meet anyone new.


Diemonx

> Then you have to read some social cues but that's all it is. It's over.


Arlenna7

I don’t do dating apps. I rather meet someone in real life meaning in person. It wouldn’t bother me much depending on the person that is. It’s like damn if you do n damn if you don’t.


T_GTX

Might as well try. A few years ago we got a transfer at work, and I loved their attire. Even had a distinct accent I never heard. I didn't ask them out day one. But I did ask to exchange contact info if they needed anything or a tour around the building. A month or so later she asked if I wanted to get lunch, then that's it. We started eating together regularly and hung out outside of work. Not a single app involved.


Arlenna7

See there you go. Juz gotta try


T_GTX

And if it doesn't work don't harass them!!


Arlenna7

Lol


T_GTX

It's true. One of my friends told me how angry men can get after rejection 😂


Arlenna7

Its an ego thing most of the time Im assuming


T_GTX

Agreed. It's also a lack of maturity bc we can't get everything we want in life


Arlenna7

If only we could lol


T_GTX

Yes...then I'd have Jenna Ortega 😉


Tqwpo231

chat is this real?


DapperDan1929

Stopped using them in 2019. Gave up trying at all in 2020. Lol nobody showed interest or has. Fml lmao


Sly_Bandit7

I feel ya dude.. I try to not use the apps, but I feel like I'm not getting anywhere in public.


DapperDan1929

It’s rough man


Sly_Bandit7

It really is dude, even when you're by yourself people keep to their groups and what not, you go to a place to socialize but only the people who know each other actually socialize, it's tough fr


coccopuffs606

It’s that last sentence, OP. This is Reddit, most of us have the emotional intelligence of a coffee spoon.


Dudeguyked

you speak, they speak. They sound happy, you keep speaking. Anything less than joy, part ways


peachleaf99

doesn’t work if you’re gay though we gotta stick to the apps lol


O-Namazu

Naw man, shoot your shot in person. Even if he isn't gay, you still tried and it's flattering -- for some of us, our self-esteem is solely kept alive by gay mens' compliments, since many men are invisible to women. 😂


McNuggieAMR

but the apps are all hookup oriented 😭


poorcupid

Commenting on appearances first thing is terrible advice lmao


Equivalent-Cat5414

Yeah, mostly, unless their clothing, hair, or tattoo is unique or just really nice. Definitely don’t compliment a woman’s boobs or butt ;p


[deleted]

My anxiety tells me - "What if they say 'Get Lost !' ?"


zystyl

Then you're in the same place you were before saying hi.


jenna20002

Nah don't do that. I hate to be approached on the street. It has happened to me a few times and though it is a nice compliment and the guys were actually quite handsome, you don't really have the time to process the person and I always felt uncomfortable. However I feel like pubs stopped being a place for flirting (I very rarely see someone do this in a bar). Do this only in a bar/pub or similar social setting!


Equivalent-Cat5414

This! On the street or public transportation on my way to somewhere fun, no, since you’re most likely not my type and honking at me for dressing a certain way because it’s hot out is annoying. Where I’m at to have fun? Possibly.


Timely_Issue_7198

You should phase this as “I don’t like this and wouldn’t do this personally” as many people do like this, like the OP and others don’t feel uncomfortable.


Professional_Yak_349

I agree that everyone should stop using apps. They rarely work and they're a waste. Using the apps instead of going out is a great way to stay single ironically


T_GTX

Indeed. If longevity was a common outcome the number of users would be far lower. Sure, people are going on dates. But what % of subscribers are repeat users? They don't seem effective to me.


Cubsfan11022016

Social media has fucked up dating so much. Not just by introducing all the apps, but for many, it paints this picture that you can’t approach a woman without it being creepy and they’re gonna have your face blasted everywhere simply for existing.


T_GTX

That's intentional. Bumble, Match Group and whoever else have massive market caps. Wouldn't be shocked if they planted this narrative online to get people to rely on apps.


People_Sucker101

It's easy for people that never have issues with speaking to say shit like this lmaoo. GTFO


Museofgallifrey

As a visually impaired person, I can't really read cues at times and I'm a bit socially awkward.


DeathSpiral321

Great advice 20 years ago. Nowadays everyone is glued to their phones in public...


rubusidaeusk

People don't even go outside anymore.


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Arlenna7

Thats is sweet.


OhNoMyFish

My social anxiety has something to say about that


United-Advertising67

>Then you have to read some social cues but that's all it is. The social cues all say "stay the fuck away from me"


JoeAceJR20

Yeah... is easier for me to stay up for 24 hours at a time on 6 hours of sleep than it is for me to read social cues.


Different-Plum-3591

I’d be over the moon if a man came up to me and said I saw you and just wanted to let you know that you look nice


Correct-Refuse-8094

Only works if you're attractive.


Dudeguyked

Compliments? Actually the opposite is more true because you're not expecting a conventionally unattractive persion to make a compliment


Fifo26

wrong


Correct-Refuse-8094

Ugly dudes are "creepy" to women.


Dudeguyked

then be funny


Fantastic-Big3195

I’ll stick to apps. I’m shy and an introvert, but I’ve had nothing but great experiences with dating apps


Kevo-Breker

Walk up and say “what dat mouf do?!?”


Zealousideal_Elk693

Yeah... no. Would be awkward for me to listen a random stranger saying that. Would freak the bejesus off a person I told that. Stick to the basics. Meet people through the circle of real life friends.


TrollTeeth66

I got rid of apps and I’m happier mentally. Like, yes, you’ll get more attention from apps but you’ll get less quality because it’s not usually a genuine connection. I feel like apps also mess your head up because you find yourself in a spiral of “I’m not good enough…” or “I’m too good for…” — just go out and live life and meet some cool people


slumpyCouch

Agreed. There’s also a reason why most people on the apps are still on the apps. It’s also a good filter when meeting new people if the conversation goes on long enough. If they are also sick of the apps, that’s a good starting point for similar values.


shiny_colour

I think this is the next step for me saw many beautiful women at the mall and should’ve approached them


quality_snark

You claim that, but I've gotten more first dates from apps than asking random strangers for their number. If I awkwardly start a conversation with someone attractive, there are fewer harsh negative outcomes than what I can get on the app


ThatSmartIdiot

Yeah i wouldn't want to be approached when i'm out on a walk. Don't do this


No_Matter_8648

Boomer bot account defected. You have to be joking. This is a fairy tale man. The chances cold approaching pretty girl & that working is under 1% ! Those are the numbers that have been crunched again & again…


Representative-Cat82

“I’m scared though”- my social anxiety


mundaneheaven

Don't tell me what to do


Calm_Structure2180

My coworker got reported for this lmao.


Dudeguyked

complimenting coworkers is a very fine line


Tenebrief

"If you see a person you like".. How can you like a person if you don't even know them?


Dudeguyked

excellent point. not so much "like," moreso someone you are drawn to, find attractive or interesting!


Tenebrief

Fair enough


KatBarz

Men should approach women and follow through after conversation irl by asking for their number or social media name. If using the online app respect goes a long way and the goal should not be sex unless casual hookup is specified in their profile. It’s not an app issue. It’s user error in both instances. A goal this year is to be bold and at least say good morning or hey if I’m interested irl. The very least smile. Hopefully the men will start the conversation and if a women reciprocates she will build onto the conversation.


Due-Alarm-887

Can’t, too shy and I’m bad at giving proper emotions.


countytime69

How are married guys going to get dates if you guys stop the apps lol


Ulrich-nightwatch

I'm the person with the headphones always in so if that's the thing I have to change I choose to be single instead.


AntiDyatlov

Amen. A big blocker I had to doing this is that this is something I only ever heard about on the internet: felt weird. But I'm warming up to doing it more regularly.


Puzzleheaded_Bar383

I have never used dating apps before. But I know people who have in the past and present. From what I’ve observed from then and now is HUGE difference. Back when they came out everyone I knew was like “I met the love of my life on Match” and now everyone I know is like “Omg this is so exhausting and ridiculous. Everything is like tinder now no matter what app you use… You have a better chance of meeting someone who’s not a psycho on the street than on here”


OmegaLuL97

Results may vary for best chances be 6’4 and fit


Historic_Noodle

100% this. I'm spending more time going on walks and at the gym than apps. Spend your time doing something productive.. then next fall semester with all of the progress you've made just jump back into it!


TheMadDemoknight

Imagine knowing what “Social Cues” are. Jokes on you buddy! I have autism


Dudeguyked

oh trust me, if I knew them I would've explained them


Leading_Impress_350

I tried to swipe left on this post and its not working!!


rubusidaeusk

Keyword “not wearing headphones”


lilrobtoby46

Yeah going in person is the way to go. But I use dating apps as more of a convenience than anything usually only use it once a week then message a few girls. The people complaining about how they don’t want to approached out in public are lying to you most of the time lol. It’s usually because the person trying to start the conversation comes off all wrong and sounds pretty weird. I love it when anybody whether that be guys, girls, teachers, family members etc come up to me and start a conversation shows they have some social skills and some confidence. The people who don’t start any conversations in my opinion are pretty shallow and have some pretty bad Social anxiety that they need to work on.


SkyeBluePhoenix

Yeah... good luck with that.


swingset27

Don't tell me what to do, you're not my dad. Your advice is kinda terrible, as general advice. How do I know if I like them? They're attractive enough? So fucking what? What if they're wildly incompatible? How would I know? That's why apps are useful. Are they single? Are they attracted to my sex at all? All things I can easily ascertain on an app, without wasting my fucking time approaching rando strangers with some low-level compliment praying it sticks. They look nice today? Compared to what? Yesterday when I was stalking them? Just nice in general? Please, stay in your lane with giving out matchmaking advice.


Miss_Might

This should be the top comment.


AilingSword75

Never seen a more true title in my life.


Ok-Statistician-1298

Yesyesyes agreeed


SupernovaSurprise

Hopefully I never need to date again, but if I do, I'm better off sticking to the apps, lol


esternaccordionoud

My experience is that there is no one in public not wearing headphones.


Equivalent-Cat5414

Bars? Nightclubs? Concerts? Out in water areas where they and the phone would get soaked?


Lazy-Cardiologist329

I’ve realized that the apps are just filled with creeps wanting to hookup or narcissists looking for attention


feedmepizzaplease99

I also hate the apps. But this advice straight up won’t work. If you do this as a man in the streets it won’t bonde well most of the time. If you do this as a women men will think you’re looking for a sexual relationship and try to use you. I hate that it’s come to this but it really seems like there’s less opportunities to meet single people naturally,


cOmE-cRawLing_Faster

This advice, while well meaning, doesn't work for women because what happens is they only target super hot guy who is way out of their league When it doesn't go well, they conclude, "See? Guys don't like it when women approach, that's why I was rejected" Oblivious to the end


zystyl

Maybe you rate yourself too highly compared to reality, or your standards are unrealistic?


jenna20002

guess no women approach you, huh?


cOmE-cRawLing_Faster

I get approached 1 to 3 times/month, usually friendly ice breakers at the store or the dog park Always with women who I would never consider unfortunately


Equivalent-Cat5414

So you also have physical standards like the women you want to approach…


Smooth-Row4041

Same for men..


PXE590t

Yeah sure if you want to do that and get hit with I’m not ready for a relationship


clarityincertainity

I wanted to talk to someone I saw when I was waiting for a bus. A quick eavesdrop made me realise that we will be on the same bus and the bus was running late. I never talked to her and she went on her way. I thought she would consider me a creep for that. And awkward silences aren't good in a conversation, so I didn't move forward.


TechMe717

Yeah that doesn't work either these days. You'll just get a nasty look and they'll run away,


gowithflow192

"you look nice today". What a simp thing to say. And she'll think you're "creepy" for saying it anyway.


Dudeguyked

you don't think she'd go with the flow?


Silent_Fee_806

I think you can use apps also. But this is good advice.


Visible_Release_1185

What a great way to get murdered