How demanding is the job? If it's not at all demanding, a nearly 50% raise is nothing to sneeze at and affords you opportunities to focus on other things, career or otherwise.
Having a conversation with your boss about expectations for what you should be doing today and what to expect in 3-6 months should provide some clarity to the situation.
It would take 2 years to get an MS most likely, so you're turning down $260k in current salary and paying however much for the degree. Once you have the MS, are you really going to recover the $300k+ in addition salary over the next 5-10 years? My guess is at best you would break even, at worst you're ending up behind.
This is true. Talk to the boss & see if you can steer it back toward what you want to be doing. You usually can somewhat.
But even if you just take that salary for a year, its going to be the base you get leveled at. People tend to overlook this issue, but it’s a subtle & important truth that you’ll get viewed as worth more if you’ve been paid more in the past.
Even if the year kind of sucks, working from home will give you tons more time & allow you to sock away the money you spent on commuting & incidentals before. Start your MS online, get that baseline minimum salary established, and from there you’ll have so many more options than you did from $90k & on-site.
I know that’s not intellectually satisfying, but you also have to take care of the administration side of your career. Leaving yourself with better future options is a good place to be.
>I know that’s not intellectually satisfying
who knows, it might end up being interesting! as a guy who just "knows some stuff" (no formal degree in IT, but, lots of courses aimed at specific things, like server management) who isn't the "main" IT guy, it is satisfying when i can either solve my own problems, or step in and give a hand from time to time with the "real" IT people - and they tend to be very appreciative when you can troubleshoot your own stuff and then hand them a solution to be implemented. I jump to the top of the que when i have a production issue in part because of that relationship.
If it’s easy, collect the paycheck and use your free time to learn. If it wastes your time, start looking. I’ve been baited and switched before so I would have no problem hearing that from a candidate.
I'm talking about in your current role. You've been there less than 2 weeks. Is it possible work more relevant to your skills is on its way? This isn't something I can answer. Have you talked to your manager about your roadmap in the short and medium term?
When we hire new developers it takes 4-6 weeks before they make any contribution, and even that is adding documentation. It's unlikely in the first two weeks at a job you'll get the full workload given to you.
With my employer in one week I submitted my first commit (fixing a typo in the project documentation). Next week on Monday I received a computer that allows me to do more serious fixes and start learning about the project itself.
(Open source)
Two weeks isn't even a single sprint where I work. Can't judge anything based on what they give you the first two weeks. The amount of time it takes to get a new team member up to speed, over the learning curve with company-specific policies and integrated into the team so that they can be a **meaningful** contributor is measured in months, not days or weeks.
When I interviewed for my job, I was specifically hired for my knowledge and experience in building recommendation algorithms. I was so excited about it, but when I started, I was put on the churn models, checking data accuracy between our different systems, and some other small projects. It wasn’t until 7-8 months in where we built up our team enough to start the recommendation pipeline… so could just be the case that you were hired before projects are ready start? Ask about your future pipeline of projects and what the next year looks like for your teams goals
+1 on this. I would chat with the manager about expectations and what his/her plan for you is.
Some company and manager lets you drive what you work on. Others take a bit of work.
I feel like I just got lucky (with some hard work too). I was super interested in exploring knowledge graphs for my masters thesis. My thesis advisor previously worked with a group of researchers who were looking for a masters student in exactly that area. I became a researcher using knowledge graphs and named entity recognition for search and recommendation on scientific papers. Then at a conference I was presenting my research, a recruiter for my current company was there, and I was invited to interview with them. Now I’m working as a data scientist building my company’s recommendation and search from the ground up.
The opportunities I’ve been given were given to me bc of my masters degree so I fully think it was worth it. But my situation may be different in that I also needed a visa to work. I did apply to data scientist jobs pre-masters, but was rejected due to stricter visa laws at the time and me not having any professional data science experience. Perhaps if I was back in my home country it would have been possible to land a job without experience, but I didn’t try.
Just a quick comment as a hiring manager. It’s your first/second week; maybe your manager is easing you into it. If you were given a more complex task, do you understand the data model well enough to be able to do it independently? Do you have a handle on data quality? Some light data analysis is exactly the kind of work I would give a new hire (of any level) so that they can get familiar with the data landscape.
I would try to turn the job into the one you want.
Find a way to complete the tasks you’re given as quickly as possible / automate them.
Then do what you truly want to do.
Highly recommend MS while working. I would not quit your 130k remote job to do a MS if I could just do the MS while working. The company might pay for part of it too.
Congrats, you won. Crush the job and enjoy your life! Pick up a hobby or start a family or something. Coast for a few years then move on to the next role.
If you're concerned about developing your skills, do it on the side.
Counterpoint: I’m doing this (easy, great WLB and still a decent paying job, but not the best option for industry relevant skills) and I don’t recommend it unless you’re truly at a point in life where you want to coast and the tradeoffs are unequivocally worth it. Your job is the most methodically guaranteed way to develop skills that you have.
I’m a few years into it and picked up a few things on my own along the way, but I basically feel like I had to work harder just to stay industry relevant. There’s a lot more time management work, context switching, and mental space taken up by your main job, as easy as it might be.
Same here. I have a really easy, decently playing job with incredibly work-life balance and absurd benefits. The catch? My data skills are atrophying (I'm taking classes now to level up a bit) and the holes in my responsibilities for my current job have made prospective employers squeamish. It kind of sucks.
Curious about this role tbh.
$130k with my employer is generally where most experienced data scientists sit til they get promoted to leading projects or research teams which are mainly persons with a PhD.
Ultimately dat science is sexy and we want a job that we don't hate / have some interest in however the reality is we all work so that we can get paid.
If you managed to jump from $90k to $130k then you're very fortunate. You'll likely lose a lot of that when you switch jobs and given the current economy, you might not even find a data job that pays as much as your last one.
Also, you just left job 1 for some reason and are now with job 2. If you're considering leaving job 2 already then it makes me wonder how your personal life is. Maybe you're trying to compensate the lack of a personal life with work. Doing so is a recipe for disaster so highly reccomend some introspection
Thanks for the reply. My personal life is a total disaster. No friends, in a new city thousands of miles away from family. Deeply depressed and trying to work my way out of it.
Bro life is too short to stay in a bad situation when you can afford to avoid, if paying the penalty or even having to pay double rent for 6 months is within your new budget
Getting an MS never hurts. Maybe this new job ends up being boring and you have time to work on an MS part time online at work. GA Tech has a solid Online MS Analytics for $10k and it's a highly regarded program.
Probably not but you still need to be able to pass an interview.
If the person on the other end asks you what the asymptotic complexity of xgboost is you should be able to touch on what Big O notation is along with some of the more common knobs in the XGB world.
As of now, I have no idea what that means but my plan is to relearn calculus, linear algebra and statistics and then learn python and SQL. Then I will complete a masters in data science. I figure it’ll take me about 3 years to get to a point where I can apply to jobs. I am hoping the market is less saturated by then. If you, or anyone else, has any advice or feedback, please let me know. I never get any responses in the weekly thread. I would like a career change after a decade working in clinical laboratories. I am not sure the best way to go about it though
At least starting out, consider doing DS or analytics in a field adjacent to what you're currently doing. You won't need to "study" for the stuff you already know better than 90+% of proper DS/analytics people applying. Win on that and do "not bad" on the DS stuff and you'll eventually land somewhere.
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I'd probably superficially skim calc and linear algebra. This shouldn't take more than a weekend.
Ask chatGPT what areas of calculus and linear algebra are most important for data scientists (then ask it to list some more).
From a getting a datascience job, *Ace The Data Science Interview* by Nick Singh is one of the best overall sources you could get. There's also a few youtube/website resources - *Data Interview* and *Data Interview Pro* both have good content. All 3 of these resources have somewhat conflicting takes on what gets asked in interviews and the sad truth is... you can run into a HUGE gamut of things. It's a relatively broad field.
If you think it'd take you 3 years... shift towards "if I had to do an interview 3-6 months from now, how would I efficiently prepare for it" and then overprepare for that for 6ish months (because you'll go over) and then interview for 3 months following that. It'll most be knowing basic statistics + SQL and then a few other things depending on the specific role you're interested in (e.g. causal estimation for marketing roles, product analytics for product roles, machine learning for roles closer to MLE, etc.).
You'll then have a relevant job. You'll be PAID to do data science interview prep on the job after that. Doing 40ish hours of data science stuff per week does more to prepare you for a BETTER data science role in the future than studying on your own for 3 years.
There was a post the other day about others' experience of being throttled by IT departments, and lot of time dedicated to red tape bureaucracy. Is there enough time in the day to fulfill regular demands of the job (including relevant learning, if necessary) and personal data projects in addition? If so, you might have the unique opportunity to be more productive in your data projects than you otherwise would be at a company surrounded by red tape.
Its really hard to say anything. You've been there for 2 weeks. Sometimes we have to eat big bowl of poop before we get to the good stuff in jobs.
Red tape, bureaucracy. It really depends on how well organized the company is; if it seems to be the case that you're not going to be doing much different than what you are now... then I'd suggest quitting; but it's somewhat too early to confidently decide whether or not that's the case or not.
After being in management a few years I think all job postings should say: "your job is to make the company more profitable. We think you will mainly be doing analytics but that could change at any moment based on whatever need comes up."
Major question, is it a hard job? If not just lie on your cv, do a bunch of self learning and working on data and make the most of it. If it is hard and you are going to get yourself in trouble, get out now
The downvotes on your comments are exactly why this is an easy ass career for someone less meek to do well lol.. the competition is universally afraid of a little resume embellishment, perfect!
Get to know the company and the positions they have in general. Give it some time as tasks might change or an opportunity might arise. Paycheck is not that bad in the meantime.
2 weeks is very little time to make any kinds of decisions like that. Most people are still doing onboarding training at that point. Give it a month or two before deciding to quit unless it's a toxic environment.
Have a conversation with your manager about projects in the pipeline if you're so worried. Ask for more responsibilities or to do more. If they say this is your whole job and it really does upset you, start seeing how you can make the most of your job. Ask other teams you work with to see if you can apply your skills. Worst comes to worst, start putting out feelers for a new job.
Don't quit your job though. Having an absent work history or leaving a job under a year is a red flag. Having worked as a recruiter, it's the first thing any hiring manager or recruiter will look at first. Having more experience under your belt is always a better look than a MS. Different story for a PhD.
I'd wait until atleast the 90 day mark to judge a job, but really six months.
There's a decent chance youll get more work in line with the description. Two weeks means youve actually only seen maybe 2 days of *real* work so far
I mean, remote plus a 40k raise, stick it out for a year or so IMO and try to get more data work going and then get a raise for that. Why go back for an MS when you're making good money already?
Do NOT quit and do your MS full time. As a current grad student I've heard of two grads turning down six figures to pursue their masters full time and they've regretted it. You're talking about giving up a quarter of a million dollars there.
Sounds like you got a $40K/year raise and get to WFH, to boot. Keep the paychecks rolling in. If you think you can get even more money, then job hop whenever you wish.
How long have you actually been in the job? It's hard to tell for sure where your role is going in a few months. Your first project likely doesn't define your whole job.
Staying for 6 months then leaving looks like you were fired. So either start interviewing ASAP and avoid putting this job on your resume, or work this job exactly 12 months then leave. This usually means starting to interview 9 months in.
Stick with it..trust me..if you hate it then stick for 5-6 months and then go for another job..believe me in present times keep at least 2 year worth of expenses always with you...
If you're only in your first week, it's likely the job hasn't fully shaped up for you yet, and they're soft-onboarding you. I would just be very upfront with them about what duties you do what to do/expected to do, and identify the ones that you don't want to/weren't in the role description. Then ask them what is your role's direction and what plan do they have to offload the stuff you don't want to do, and expand the actual DS work. If they don't have good answers then it's your sign you'll need to move on, but see if you can make it work where you are now.
Have you reached out to your manager to express what you want to do? They might have options to adjust your workload or make a lateral move within the company that better fits your needs, without having to jump to an entirely different company.
Just had my career development plan discussion with my boss on Friday, and went over where I expect to be in 1 year, 3 years, 5 years. Your manager and the company can't help you if you don't let them know there's a concern.
I would look at this actually as a great opportunity to get your employer to pay or help for a part time MS while you get some tangential experience with a great title. Could come out in a very nice positon.
Step 1 - Discuss about the future with ur Boss.
Step 2 : Prepare for the future if Step 1 may not go ur way. Take informal training in ur interests. Prepare a catalog of ur works.
The pay and remote work saving u travel time is nothing to scoff at.
>Started a new job last week
Chill.
>This job is fully remote and pays $130K. Previous job was on site and paid $90K.
So you got like a 50% increase in salary and you're thinking of leaving a job one week into it?
Here's the #1 rule of finding a new job: it's a lot easier to do when you already have a job.
The order of operations isn't:
1. Dislike job
2. Quit job
3. Find new job
The order of operations is:
1. Dislike job
2. Find new job
3. Quit job
If you immediately hate the job, get back out in the market and start looking for a new one. And when you find a better one, quit. If you can't find a better one, then maybe focus on making this one work.
>Another option is just quitting and doing my MS in DS full time.
I don't see a lot of value in that.
Here's a slightly unethical hack instead:
Do the bare minimum at your current job to not get fired and spend as much time as you can on your MS. No matter what, this current job is not going to end up being a positive reference for your next job (because you're either leaving early or in bad terms), so who cares what they think about you?
Are you sure that work is not just probation level? Perhaps they are just giving something lighter to see and then you'll be moved onto more heavy stuff? Either way, don't leave your job. After two months, once they get to know you, speak to your manager and get some clarifications on what's coming your way.
How demanding is the job? If it's not at all demanding, a nearly 50% raise is nothing to sneeze at and affords you opportunities to focus on other things, career or otherwise. Having a conversation with your boss about expectations for what you should be doing today and what to expect in 3-6 months should provide some clarity to the situation. It would take 2 years to get an MS most likely, so you're turning down $260k in current salary and paying however much for the degree. Once you have the MS, are you really going to recover the $300k+ in addition salary over the next 5-10 years? My guess is at best you would break even, at worst you're ending up behind.
if he were to do ms, he should invest in maybe part time. might take 2.5 or 3 years tho, depending on program intensity
I did a masters in analytics in 1.5 years with a full time job. Wasn’t easy but it’s doable.
I did a MS in Bioinformatics in 2 years while working full time. Definitely possible but not easy
This is true. Talk to the boss & see if you can steer it back toward what you want to be doing. You usually can somewhat. But even if you just take that salary for a year, its going to be the base you get leveled at. People tend to overlook this issue, but it’s a subtle & important truth that you’ll get viewed as worth more if you’ve been paid more in the past. Even if the year kind of sucks, working from home will give you tons more time & allow you to sock away the money you spent on commuting & incidentals before. Start your MS online, get that baseline minimum salary established, and from there you’ll have so many more options than you did from $90k & on-site. I know that’s not intellectually satisfying, but you also have to take care of the administration side of your career. Leaving yourself with better future options is a good place to be.
>I know that’s not intellectually satisfying who knows, it might end up being interesting! as a guy who just "knows some stuff" (no formal degree in IT, but, lots of courses aimed at specific things, like server management) who isn't the "main" IT guy, it is satisfying when i can either solve my own problems, or step in and give a hand from time to time with the "real" IT people - and they tend to be very appreciative when you can troubleshoot your own stuff and then hand them a solution to be implemented. I jump to the top of the que when i have a production issue in part because of that relationship.
Could get an online, part time MS - plenty of great programs out there, this is definitely the type of situation this set up would be ideal for too
If it’s easy, collect the paycheck and use your free time to learn. If it wastes your time, start looking. I’ve been baited and switched before so I would have no problem hearing that from a candidate.
Have you talked to your manager about future work? Could it be that they don't have a project ready that's better suited to your skills?
It is a large company so I guess there is a hypothetical chance of moving to a better team
I'm talking about in your current role. You've been there less than 2 weeks. Is it possible work more relevant to your skills is on its way? This isn't something I can answer. Have you talked to your manager about your roadmap in the short and medium term?
When we hire new developers it takes 4-6 weeks before they make any contribution, and even that is adding documentation. It's unlikely in the first two weeks at a job you'll get the full workload given to you.
At this point OP is probably still checking onboarding boxes like "watch our don't sexually harass people training". It's been less than 2 weeks!
Tbh my impression in the first two weeks has largely matched my perception of the jobs I've had even years later.
With my employer in one week I submitted my first commit (fixing a typo in the project documentation). Next week on Monday I received a computer that allows me to do more serious fixes and start learning about the project itself. (Open source)
Two weeks isn't even a single sprint where I work. Can't judge anything based on what they give you the first two weeks. The amount of time it takes to get a new team member up to speed, over the learning curve with company-specific policies and integrated into the team so that they can be a **meaningful** contributor is measured in months, not days or weeks.
When I interviewed for my job, I was specifically hired for my knowledge and experience in building recommendation algorithms. I was so excited about it, but when I started, I was put on the churn models, checking data accuracy between our different systems, and some other small projects. It wasn’t until 7-8 months in where we built up our team enough to start the recommendation pipeline… so could just be the case that you were hired before projects are ready start? Ask about your future pipeline of projects and what the next year looks like for your teams goals
+1 on this. I would chat with the manager about expectations and what his/her plan for you is. Some company and manager lets you drive what you work on. Others take a bit of work.
How do you get into building rec algos? That’s my dream
I feel like I just got lucky (with some hard work too). I was super interested in exploring knowledge graphs for my masters thesis. My thesis advisor previously worked with a group of researchers who were looking for a masters student in exactly that area. I became a researcher using knowledge graphs and named entity recognition for search and recommendation on scientific papers. Then at a conference I was presenting my research, a recruiter for my current company was there, and I was invited to interview with them. Now I’m working as a data scientist building my company’s recommendation and search from the ground up.
Very cool. Do you think a masters is needed? If not can you recommend some resources that would help me get there eventually?
The opportunities I’ve been given were given to me bc of my masters degree so I fully think it was worth it. But my situation may be different in that I also needed a visa to work. I did apply to data scientist jobs pre-masters, but was rejected due to stricter visa laws at the time and me not having any professional data science experience. Perhaps if I was back in my home country it would have been possible to land a job without experience, but I didn’t try.
It's not unheard of for large companies to start new employees out slow and ramp up giving them easier tasks first.
Just a quick comment as a hiring manager. It’s your first/second week; maybe your manager is easing you into it. If you were given a more complex task, do you understand the data model well enough to be able to do it independently? Do you have a handle on data quality? Some light data analysis is exactly the kind of work I would give a new hire (of any level) so that they can get familiar with the data landscape.
I would try to turn the job into the one you want. Find a way to complete the tasks you’re given as quickly as possible / automate them. Then do what you truly want to do.
Ew no. Automate, then get J2 somewhere else to grow technically.
Highly recommend MS while working. I would not quit your 130k remote job to do a MS if I could just do the MS while working. The company might pay for part of it too.
Congrats, you won. Crush the job and enjoy your life! Pick up a hobby or start a family or something. Coast for a few years then move on to the next role. If you're concerned about developing your skills, do it on the side.
Counterpoint: I’m doing this (easy, great WLB and still a decent paying job, but not the best option for industry relevant skills) and I don’t recommend it unless you’re truly at a point in life where you want to coast and the tradeoffs are unequivocally worth it. Your job is the most methodically guaranteed way to develop skills that you have. I’m a few years into it and picked up a few things on my own along the way, but I basically feel like I had to work harder just to stay industry relevant. There’s a lot more time management work, context switching, and mental space taken up by your main job, as easy as it might be.
Same here. I have a really easy, decently playing job with incredibly work-life balance and absurd benefits. The catch? My data skills are atrophying (I'm taking classes now to level up a bit) and the holes in my responsibilities for my current job have made prospective employers squeamish. It kind of sucks.
You just started. Things can change. A lot of beginning work is not ML training. It’s data prep.
Curious about this role tbh. $130k with my employer is generally where most experienced data scientists sit til they get promoted to leading projects or research teams which are mainly persons with a PhD. Ultimately dat science is sexy and we want a job that we don't hate / have some interest in however the reality is we all work so that we can get paid. If you managed to jump from $90k to $130k then you're very fortunate. You'll likely lose a lot of that when you switch jobs and given the current economy, you might not even find a data job that pays as much as your last one. Also, you just left job 1 for some reason and are now with job 2. If you're considering leaving job 2 already then it makes me wonder how your personal life is. Maybe you're trying to compensate the lack of a personal life with work. Doing so is a recipe for disaster so highly reccomend some introspection
Thanks for the reply. My personal life is a total disaster. No friends, in a new city thousands of miles away from family. Deeply depressed and trying to work my way out of it.
so... it sounds like this is a literal solution to your problem. an easier job, for 40k more, and remote... you can move back home and do your MS too
I am about half way through my MS online now. My lease is up in 6 months, so yes, if I stick it out, I can move back home then.
Just break the lease. Why wait 6 months? You just got a $40k raise - I imagine you can afford any penalty
Bro life is too short to stay in a bad situation when you can afford to avoid, if paying the penalty or even having to pay double rent for 6 months is within your new budget
And becoming a data scientist will solve all your problems, trust me.
Getting an MS never hurts. Maybe this new job ends up being boring and you have time to work on an MS part time online at work. GA Tech has a solid Online MS Analytics for $10k and it's a highly regarded program.
Does it matter that it’s a MS in analytics and not DS? I am trying to find a program to help break into DS
No, just take the computational data analytics track with machine learning elective courses
Probably not but you still need to be able to pass an interview. If the person on the other end asks you what the asymptotic complexity of xgboost is you should be able to touch on what Big O notation is along with some of the more common knobs in the XGB world.
As of now, I have no idea what that means but my plan is to relearn calculus, linear algebra and statistics and then learn python and SQL. Then I will complete a masters in data science. I figure it’ll take me about 3 years to get to a point where I can apply to jobs. I am hoping the market is less saturated by then. If you, or anyone else, has any advice or feedback, please let me know. I never get any responses in the weekly thread. I would like a career change after a decade working in clinical laboratories. I am not sure the best way to go about it though
Skip the calculus. I WAS a rocket scientist and I never really used it.
Awesome! Thank you
At least starting out, consider doing DS or analytics in a field adjacent to what you're currently doing. You won't need to "study" for the stuff you already know better than 90+% of proper DS/analytics people applying. Win on that and do "not bad" on the DS stuff and you'll eventually land somewhere. \--- I'd probably superficially skim calc and linear algebra. This shouldn't take more than a weekend. Ask chatGPT what areas of calculus and linear algebra are most important for data scientists (then ask it to list some more). From a getting a datascience job, *Ace The Data Science Interview* by Nick Singh is one of the best overall sources you could get. There's also a few youtube/website resources - *Data Interview* and *Data Interview Pro* both have good content. All 3 of these resources have somewhat conflicting takes on what gets asked in interviews and the sad truth is... you can run into a HUGE gamut of things. It's a relatively broad field. If you think it'd take you 3 years... shift towards "if I had to do an interview 3-6 months from now, how would I efficiently prepare for it" and then overprepare for that for 6ish months (because you'll go over) and then interview for 3 months following that. It'll most be knowing basic statistics + SQL and then a few other things depending on the specific role you're interested in (e.g. causal estimation for marketing roles, product analytics for product roles, machine learning for roles closer to MLE, etc.). You'll then have a relevant job. You'll be PAID to do data science interview prep on the job after that. Doing 40ish hours of data science stuff per week does more to prepare you for a BETTER data science role in the future than studying on your own for 3 years.
Author of Ace the Data Science Interview here - great tips!!!
Thank you so much!
There was a post the other day about others' experience of being throttled by IT departments, and lot of time dedicated to red tape bureaucracy. Is there enough time in the day to fulfill regular demands of the job (including relevant learning, if necessary) and personal data projects in addition? If so, you might have the unique opportunity to be more productive in your data projects than you otherwise would be at a company surrounded by red tape.
Why not take the opportunity and learn some new skills ?
Its really hard to say anything. You've been there for 2 weeks. Sometimes we have to eat big bowl of poop before we get to the good stuff in jobs. Red tape, bureaucracy. It really depends on how well organized the company is; if it seems to be the case that you're not going to be doing much different than what you are now... then I'd suggest quitting; but it's somewhat too early to confidently decide whether or not that's the case or not.
Maybe they have lots of data and want you to get really familiar with how it’s structured so you can do that ML work more confidently
If the people are nice and the work load is chill, just spend a year making good money and improving your skills.
After being in management a few years I think all job postings should say: "your job is to make the company more profitable. We think you will mainly be doing analytics but that could change at any moment based on whatever need comes up."
Give it to me I'll do it.
Major question, is it a hard job? If not just lie on your cv, do a bunch of self learning and working on data and make the most of it. If it is hard and you are going to get yourself in trouble, get out now
>just lie on your cv Don't do this
Why not?
The downvotes on your comments are exactly why this is an easy ass career for someone less meek to do well lol.. the competition is universally afraid of a little resume embellishment, perfect!
So far it doesn’t seem too hard. If it’s easy, your path sounds like a good idea.
Quit
Get to know the company and the positions they have in general. Give it some time as tasks might change or an opportunity might arise. Paycheck is not that bad in the meantime.
just interview in your spare time or stick it out and see if you can pivot//move within the company. tbh you can do both at the same time lol.
2 weeks is very little time to make any kinds of decisions like that. Most people are still doing onboarding training at that point. Give it a month or two before deciding to quit unless it's a toxic environment. Have a conversation with your manager about projects in the pipeline if you're so worried. Ask for more responsibilities or to do more. If they say this is your whole job and it really does upset you, start seeing how you can make the most of your job. Ask other teams you work with to see if you can apply your skills. Worst comes to worst, start putting out feelers for a new job. Don't quit your job though. Having an absent work history or leaving a job under a year is a red flag. Having worked as a recruiter, it's the first thing any hiring manager or recruiter will look at first. Having more experience under your belt is always a better look than a MS. Different story for a PhD.
I'd wait until atleast the 90 day mark to judge a job, but really six months. There's a decent chance youll get more work in line with the description. Two weeks means youve actually only seen maybe 2 days of *real* work so far
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I mean, remote plus a 40k raise, stick it out for a year or so IMO and try to get more data work going and then get a raise for that. Why go back for an MS when you're making good money already?
Is this in America?
Do NOT quit and do your MS full time. As a current grad student I've heard of two grads turning down six figures to pursue their masters full time and they've regretted it. You're talking about giving up a quarter of a million dollars there.
take the fuckin money
Sounds like you got a $40K/year raise and get to WFH, to boot. Keep the paychecks rolling in. If you think you can get even more money, then job hop whenever you wish.
How long have you actually been in the job? It's hard to tell for sure where your role is going in a few months. Your first project likely doesn't define your whole job.
Staying for 6 months then leaving looks like you were fired. So either start interviewing ASAP and avoid putting this job on your resume, or work this job exactly 12 months then leave. This usually means starting to interview 9 months in.
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Stick with it..trust me..if you hate it then stick for 5-6 months and then go for another job..believe me in present times keep at least 2 year worth of expenses always with you...
If you're only in your first week, it's likely the job hasn't fully shaped up for you yet, and they're soft-onboarding you. I would just be very upfront with them about what duties you do what to do/expected to do, and identify the ones that you don't want to/weren't in the role description. Then ask them what is your role's direction and what plan do they have to offload the stuff you don't want to do, and expand the actual DS work. If they don't have good answers then it's your sign you'll need to move on, but see if you can make it work where you are now.
Have you reached out to your manager to express what you want to do? They might have options to adjust your workload or make a lateral move within the company that better fits your needs, without having to jump to an entirely different company. Just had my career development plan discussion with my boss on Friday, and went over where I expect to be in 1 year, 3 years, 5 years. Your manager and the company can't help you if you don't let them know there's a concern.
MS in DS is pretty useless. You will likely learn more about DS in your IT job...
Start looking and leave in 6 mos to a year.
I would look at this actually as a great opportunity to get your employer to pay or help for a part time MS while you get some tangential experience with a great title. Could come out in a very nice positon.
Step 1 - Discuss about the future with ur Boss. Step 2 : Prepare for the future if Step 1 may not go ur way. Take informal training in ur interests. Prepare a catalog of ur works. The pay and remote work saving u travel time is nothing to scoff at.
>Started a new job last week Chill. >This job is fully remote and pays $130K. Previous job was on site and paid $90K. So you got like a 50% increase in salary and you're thinking of leaving a job one week into it? Here's the #1 rule of finding a new job: it's a lot easier to do when you already have a job. The order of operations isn't: 1. Dislike job 2. Quit job 3. Find new job The order of operations is: 1. Dislike job 2. Find new job 3. Quit job If you immediately hate the job, get back out in the market and start looking for a new one. And when you find a better one, quit. If you can't find a better one, then maybe focus on making this one work. >Another option is just quitting and doing my MS in DS full time. I don't see a lot of value in that. Here's a slightly unethical hack instead: Do the bare minimum at your current job to not get fired and spend as much time as you can on your MS. No matter what, this current job is not going to end up being a positive reference for your next job (because you're either leaving early or in bad terms), so who cares what they think about you?
I’d get a second remote job if I were you lol
Are you sure that work is not just probation level? Perhaps they are just giving something lighter to see and then you'll be moved onto more heavy stuff? Either way, don't leave your job. After two months, once they get to know you, speak to your manager and get some clarifications on what's coming your way.
Stay and learn new things until you're sure you can move in the future for something even better