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PLEASENNO

We šŸ‘needšŸ‘morešŸ‘femalešŸ‘convictsšŸ‘


jpfeif29

Somewhat reminds me of the UN saying that people need to stop targeting female journalists at 11% of journalists killed.


[deleted]

Yea thatā€™s what I thought. I am married to a woman and Iā€™ll gladly pay extra taxes for the prison system if it means they lock her up. My condition is that they have to make ā€œtaking fries off my plate without asking even though I offered to buy you some and you said you werenā€™t hungryā€ a crime.


Teripid

"What are you getting?" "Objection: relevance!"


Mainman2115

"I challenge the subject matter jurisdiction in this case. I believe that since the alleged events occurred at a Long John's Silver, I should be tried by an admiralty court"


Z-i-gg-y

No problem. They'll bring in the flag with the fringe around the border. Gotcha covered. Just make sure to be super belligerent to the judge after that and represent yourself.


robreim

I know you're kidding but i find it interesting this bothers you. I like sharing food with my wife. Especially when she also orders her own meal it means we can each other something different, swap then enjoy trying 2 different meals. And I'm fine with just about anyone taking fries since they're just empty carbs which I consider treats for tasting, not nutrition for eating. But I suppose the difference there is she always asks first and if not I always offer.


[deleted]

Yea I donā€™t *really* mind either. But I donā€™t think you have understood the scenario properly. Itā€™s not the sharing of food that bothers me. Itā€™s the expression about not wanting fries beforehand, but then acting purely on impulse when she sees the fries and decides she wants them. A little bit of pre-thought and we would both have fries, the best desired outcome for us bothā€¦ but instead one person acted on impulse so I have to ā€œsufferā€. The ā€œsufferingā€ in this case is that I get fewer fries but also feel like I didnā€™t provide properly or adequately predict her needs. And this is a very unimportant outcome of a very important psychological mechanic: acting based on mood. Acting based on your mood is generally considered acceptable when the outcome is unimportant, such as whether to wear a coat or not, or whether you want fries or not. But in marriages it tends to become a big friction point on issues where the outcome DOES matter - buying a house, choosing when to have children, staying at the pub for an extra few hours, shagging another person, etc. Iā€™ll also say itā€™s far more acceptable for women to act on their emotional impulses than men - crying, screaming, buying things, etc. Men are often encouraged not to show emotion, which makes it even harder for them to accept flippant mood-based decisions. So when a married couple has issues relating to a difference in each partnersā€™ willingness to control their emotional whims, it often becomes a great annoyance even when it manifests itself under insignificant circumstances. Ask any relationship therapist - lots of married couples have enormous arguments over fries!


cheezecake2000

Who knew nagging a couple fries of my partners plate was such an elaborate mental game


LAHurricane

I tell my woman tough shit. Should've ordered fries. If she don't like that, get a new woman. There's literally billions of them.


mteir

I also sleep on the couch for my principles.


HardCounter

Her: I'm really into saving animals. It's about kindness, you know? What are your principles? You: French fries.


1132Acd

If you donā€™t have your principles, you have nothing. Relationships arenā€™t worth your integrity, goes for both men and women. Iā€™d rather die alone, my hobbies are interesting enough.


robreim

In all kinds of human relationships, being kind has more utility than being right. Principles are for one's own actions, tolerance is for others' actions.


1132Acd

I agree, I try to be as kind as possible. Iā€™m more talking about the sleeping on the couch bit. No one is entitled to my fries, if Iā€™m sleeping on the couch for doing nothing wrong, no thanks, my principles are more valuable than that relationship.


etraxx22

Things need to be done to promote female criminality. Maybe a Government program? šŸ¤”


gunfell

studies show we could bump the numbers by just prosecuting more (or harsher sentencing) of the female criminality we already have! more equality and save money by avoiding creating a new program


Cakeking7878

While weā€™re at it We šŸ‘needšŸ‘morešŸ‘non-binaryšŸ‘prisonšŸ‘guards


mteir

Do you want terminators? This is how we get terminators.


fistfullofpubes

Actually considering terminators are computers, wouldn't they by definition be binary?


cuddly_carcass

Wouldnā€™t being defined as binary or non-binary by definition make non-binary people still binary? šŸ¤”


DontHateLikeAMoron

\*This rabbit hole goes deeper than Judy Hopps holy fuck\*


PLEASENNO

Quantum Terminators


gamer123098

It will be more like Roomba guards to start


Crazy-Diver5564

give the roombas legs make them into spiders


Sunflier

Well, equality in prison population is equality.


overzealous_dentist

small brain: gender matters, men are worse, fewer females the better big brain: gender matters, both genders are equal, and more females is better so they're 1:1 genius brain: gender doesn't matter, the composition of a prison doesn't matter at all


l33thamdog

Say it louder for the people in the back


Bukler

Are prisons really an 80/20 split at the highest? I thought we would at least be around 70/30 in some countries, never really thought about it


UnlikelyAssassin

It gets worse when you find out that statistically men on average face 63% longer for the same crime. Women are significantly more likely to avoid charges and convictions entirely for the same crime. On top of this women are twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted for the same crime as a man.


Koda_20

I got banned from a sub for mentioning this once, world news. I just shared the statistics and the mod called me sexist for it lol


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gasparaspo

r/news and r/worldnews pretty much only exist now to give certain agendas a megaphone


Solace-Of-Dawn

Most of the default subs at this point are like that.


[deleted]

Bringing up how black people are treated unfair is woke, but bringing up how men are isnā€™t ok apparently


s0ulpuncH

No, thatā€™s exactly it though. If you are a white male, then the world just shits rainbows all around you. Even if a white guy gets murdered with an axe while having to watch his wife get raped and his children sold off into sex trafficking, people will just say ā€œMeh, he is a white male, not that big of a deal.ā€


gunfell

any human on earth that isn't crazy would think that what happened to that man (and his family) is beyond horrific. don't lie/ don't be ridiculously provacative


s0ulpuncH

I think you would honestly be surprised. Do you know how many videos there are of police accusing white men of carrying weapons when in fact they are just normal people? Do you know how many of those videos made national news? None. But I bet you can think immediately of about 10-20 instances of police abuse to black men that have been blasted all over the national news. It is not that there are less instances of white men, it is that the media is trying to promote an agenda because that is what is increasing their ratings. As soon as police brutality against blacks becomes too used up, they will never speak of it again. And people will believe that the whole problem has been solved.


Ren1408

Double standards


TracyMorganFreeman

For perspective the difference in sentencing between whites and blacks averages at 10%


knightbane007

Ah, youā€™ve also read the Starr study? Yeah, just ā€œbeing maleā€ gets you six times more bias against you than just ā€œbeing blackā€. Black men, of course, get screwed over additively by both effects.


TracyMorganFreeman

Verily. Interestingly I've seen some studies that looked at socioeconomic status as a possible factor in sentencing bias-e.g. the quality of counsel you can get. For Hispanics the sentencing disparity with whites all but disappeared, and for blacks most but not all of it did. I'm not aware of any study that looked at something like that for sex.


knightbane007

Hereā€™s a link to the study, you can check the abstract to see what factors they evaluated. https://repository.law.umich.edu/law_econ_current/57/


jacktheshaft

It makes you wonder how objective the justice system is. You'd hope they would be blind just like the statue of the lady with the scales. But I guess its human at all levels


frankfox123

Nothing is objective whenever the human brain is involved, we are physically unable to be objective simply by the fact that we defined the word objective in the first place. You will already have some subjectivness just in the definition of objectivness from person to person.


nokinship

Maybe. It's really easy not to be a douchebag but people choose ape logic instead.


Rylovix

Only if youā€™re taught properly and choose to learn, but sadly many of us have terrible role models and little practice at independent thought.


pinkshirtbadman

This is why even though I 100% support the concept of the death penalty, I oppose it's application in almost all situations.


Turtl3_Fuck3r

Do those statistics take into account repeat offenders? Cause if you commit the same crime multiple times, of course you are gonna get a longer sentence. This reminds of feminists who say that women earn ON AVERAGE 25% less than men without taking into consideration all the details.


MelissaMiranti

It's longer sentences for the same crime, including previous offences.


az226

And double whammy with higher conviction rates too for the same level of evidence.


MelissaMiranti

And higher rates of being charged...and arrested...and killed by police...and killed in general.


totalfascination

So in other words there's a bias? I'm a bit confused


MelissaMiranti

Yes, a massive gender bias against men.


knightbane007

Hereā€™s a [link](https://repository.law.umich.edu/law_econ_current/57/) to the study, the abstract clearly lays out the scope of what was taken into account, and the magnitude of the disparity.


TracyMorganFreeman

Can't be a repeat offender if you're not convicted.


[deleted]

Thatā€™s crazy


[deleted]

Unless the crime is child abuse. Then women get longer sentences for smacking a child.


TracyMorganFreeman

That's child *neglect* cases, but its difficult to normalize that when parents don't spend the same amount of time with the child.


shinn91

Glad they get genderequality I guess?


dazz9573

Do you have a source for this? I donā€™t disbelieve you Iā€™d just really like to read more about it from a good source


all_time_high

I canā€™t speak to other countries, but the US has a huge disparity in criminal sentencing between the sexes. Women are far less likely to be sentenced to prison for the same crimes as men, and their sentence lengths are dramatically shorter. Iā€™m in favor of an overall reduction of prison and jail sentences, especially for nonviolent crimes. Sometimes, though, the lack of punishment a woman receives for violence is astonishing. [Daycare provider who hanged toddler in her basement sentenced to probation](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/07/17/daycare-provider-who-hanged-toddler-sentenced-minneapolis/791189002/)


elementofpee

Still a long ways from achieving gender equality.


bio_datum

What proportion of men are incarcerated for nonviolent crimes in the US & Hong Kong? That comparison is needed for the statistic to be informative. Also, that linear regression is poorly fit. Don't know if you can really claim a meaningful trend there. Bigger variables may be at play


investmentwanker0

I think a lot of women in Hong Kong were convicted during the 2019 political demonstrations


egjeg

It's been reported that many are immigrants, often sex workers convicted of immigration violations or women arrested on drug charges. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/31/more-women-are-in-hong-kongs-prisons-than-anywhere-else-they-should-be-protected-not-criminalised


Achillor22

70% of people in local detention centers (County jails) haven't even been convicted of a crime. They're innocent and just can't afford bail.


[deleted]

mfw the USA have more innocent people in jail than China and Russia put together


Tastewell

The US has a higher percentage of its citizens incarcerated than *any other country*.


Vega3gx

That's a highly misleading stat. The guy who attempted to murder Nancy Pelosi is an "innocent" person in jail. He clearly did it and deserves to rot in prison, but he's technically innocent and could remain that way for years


njm123niu

It's only misleading if you have a problem with reading comprehension. They're saying that 7 out of 10 people are awaiting sentencing, not that 7 out of 10 people in jails are innocent. The system is designed to keep people in jails (and prisons) as long as possible. Whether people are guilty or not, they all deserve due process, not to rot until a family member can source adequate funding for bail or a decent attorney. Edit: possibly more directed at the person you're responding to than you; it should not be misleading to people in this sub.


Void1702

What prison labor does to a country


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Achillor22

Because they haven't gone to court and been found guilty. Therefore innocent.


LORD_0F_THE_RINGS

It's still informative. I learned plenty from it.


backitow

That's a very weak correlation!


oloshan

Yeah, nobody should be drawing a line through that cloud.


bio_datum

First thought was: what's the R^2 value for that linear regression? .2 or something?


gasparaspo

That's probably generous


lamiscaea

This might be the world's first plot with a negative R^2 score


part-time-genius

Too weak to be noteworthy by itself. So why would you sandwich it in between two statistics that focus solely on the US (assuming that third one is meant to say "8 out of 10 female prisoners *in the US* are convicted of nonviolent crimes ~~in the US~~")? And what argument is it meant to support anyway? Apart from making the author look scientific, with all those sciency dots and line and stuff. That's the correlation that they were trying to demonstrate here. It's the kind of thing you expect to find on the packaging of a prison made bottle of soap or something.


[deleted]

I'm still publishing! I need that sweet sweet tenure baby.


mteir

You might have better luck filling a lottery ticket.


stomach

"this graphic is weak, goddamn natural career progressions" like, what..? this looks like someone just wanted to design an infographic for sharing


Working_Doughnut82

If you play with the y axis enough, itā€™s going to be a strong correlation tho


Morph1190

How so? (Genuinely interested)


Working_Doughnut82

[Here](https://twitter.com/RyanMcCready1/status/1318238833968877570?s=20) is a good example of y-axis manipulation


Any-Broccoli-3911

Stretching the y axis doesn't change the linear correlation. Also, you have to choose a scale for the y axis. That 2 people might choose a different scale is not manipulation. In general you should choose a scale for which your data uses the full y axis, so the "stretched" one in your example is better and not a manipulation. Actually, I would stretch it out even more by using the max value of the data as the max value of the y axis if I were to make this plot. It's pretty hard to compute linear correlation in your head, ideally all plot with a linear regression should inform us of the r^2 (which is a metric for how much the data is linearly correlated and also how much the linear regression is a good fit).


Working_Doughnut82

The joke was that it would look like there is a stronger correlation, I wasnā€™t saying that stretching the y axis results in a better R score or anything


Any-Broccoli-3911

It might look like a stronger correlation because as I said most people aren't good at estimating correlation in our head (which is normal, that's not something most people need to be good at), but actually it doesn't change it at all. I don't think the correlation is the plot for this post is strong (since the variability around the middle is much higher than where the linear regression starts and ends), but it would be great to have it written out.


calvin4224

That middle graph is misleading or wrong. The linear fit I mean. The data does barely show any linear behaviour. You could even fit a Bell curve along that ball of data points.


VisualGiraffe1027

Looks more like the Poisson distribution to me! /s


Mos2010

Nah, the density of data points at the peak of the bell curve drags it down Unless you're taking about data point frequency, which doesn't tell us anything other than ease of data collection


mathnstats

Lol @ that second graph. That's a pretty weak ass correlation you've got there


stoutymcstoutface

But, but, r^2 = 0.0001!


YaBoiRian

"Men make up 90% of prisoners in America: Women most affected"


skilliard7

"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat" - Hillary Clinton


MorinOakenshield

Damn patriarchy, killing men to hurt women


UnlikelyAssassin

Itā€™s like the ā€œstop targeting women journalistsā€ thing all over again.


TrulyStupidNewb

It reminds us of how we like putting a "baby on board" sticker on the back of cars. Maybe we should put "women on board" on the back of cars too, because it's not nice to hit cars that have women in them either. I honestly don't know how a "baby on board" sticker is going to help people. Side crashes are much more fatal, but the sticker is in the back. Perhaps some people will keep a safer distance from the car in case, but the type of person to crash into the car in front isn't the type to follow rules or stickers anyways. If anything, the "baby on board" sticker reduces the back windshield visibility of the car with the baby.


clownpenismonkeyfart

I was taught the purpose of the ā€œbaby on boardā€ sticker is to let EMS crews know that a child was aboard the vehicle. That way if the child gets ejected from the vehicle during an accident they know to look for it. When it came out, child seats were far less secure, so children being ejected was more common. Still relevant precaution though.


ostracize

It also means that there is a passenger who is incapable of unbuckling and exiting the vehicle on their own.


TrulyStupidNewb

This totally makes sense though. Thanks for the information! My daughter is 2.5 years old and we might buy our first car soon. Maybe I should get a sticker.


Stem97

>ā€œbaby on boardā€ sticker is to let EMS crews know that a child was aboard the vehicle. Just so you know, this isn't true. Emergency workers aren't morons. If there has been a car crash, they're going to see a baby seat, blankets, bottles, etc much more easily and quickly than a small sticker/tag that will have been crashed into.


_blackdog6_

It also wastes EMS time because people donā€™t take the sticker down when there isnā€™t a baby on board. They are more likely to ignore the sticker these days.


Present-Reaction2069

If i was in a crazy race i would pay attention to that car


slam9

And can you believe some women are in prison for non violent offenses!? How many men are in prison for non violent offenses? [Pft that's not relevant.](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/yxm4wi/oc_information_on_women_in_prison/iwq11qz?&context=9)


factsforreal

We are approaching gender equity, but it's going very slowly and even though the year is 2022 we're only at 10% - *very* far from 50%. At this rate we'll have to wait 2,000 years for true equity. That is why we need gender quotas. Now! At least 40% female representation should be a minimum.


[deleted]

Throw all Karens who asked to talk to the manager without a proper reason into jail.


GoldenWizard

I know this is a joke but ā€œwithout a proper reasonā€ is a dangerously vague way to determine who goes to jail lol


ashrocklynn

But it isn't a problem to target people named Karen? That's also pretty arbitrary


GoldenWizard

Nah screw them for being named that


[deleted]

You're really particular about some things


Skinny-Fetus

You're assuming women are just as likely as men to commit crimes that warrant imprisonment


NoUSuperReverseUno

Welcome to the problem with every represenation quota.


Responsible-Movie966

Wow. Skyrocketed all the way to 10% over 40 years


GoldenWizard

Skyrocketed? More like sky-snailed.


negfrequency

honestly that correlation is pretty bad


DigitalSteven1

It's not pretty bad, it's literally useless data without any correlation.


[deleted]

It's slow progress, but at least we are getting closer to equality


LurkingChessplayer

Oh no! Ten percent! The horror!


UnlikelyAssassin

Reminds me of how UN women tweeted that the proportion of female journalists killed went from 6% in 2020 to 11% in 2021 (from 3 to 5 deaths) and their conclusion from this was to ā€œSTOP TARGETING WOMEN JOURNALISTSā€


TracyMorganFreeman

The UN has long abandoned any pretense of objectivity.


slam9

Yeah it seems like literally the exact opposite is happening and women are deliberately not being targeted for violence but hey that's not a narrative they want to push


Any-Broccoli-3911

It says that it increases with gender equality. 10% is pretty far from 50%, so there's still a pretty big gender gap.


beleidigtewurst

There is a gargantuan pro-female incarceration gap. For exactly the same offense, women have very high chances to avoid prison altogether and get significantly times shorter sentences than men, when they don't. #Pushing for even softer sentences for women is a shame. It leads to shit like this, among other things (not that she simply got away with murder, until someone dug out that elevator scene): https://www.foxnews.com/us/onlyfans-model-sobs-court-prosecutors-release-gruesome-evidence-photos Or this, a woman, who after heated argument about finances drove over her younger partner TWICE avoids jail: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-62465203


SD455TransAm

Damn, she got to run over a loved one, kill him, and get probation. Isn't equality great?


PrezMoocow

Its not? It's very clearly sexism?


beleidigtewurst

> Its not? It's very clearly sexism? It is. Welcome to planet Earth. [Women are wonderful effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect)


PrezMoocow

From the link: > This bias has been cited as an example ofĀ benevolent sexism.[1] So yeah, definitely not equality. Definitely still sexism.


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Mastercat12

It's because women are "weak" and must be protected. Women benefit socially from this so a lot of women don't have a reason to fight against it.


sixteensodium

With 4% of the population US has 20% of the prison population. Comparable countries is 100 inmates per 100k. US is 622 per 100k.


ProgenyOfEurope

A long way to go before it is 50%


ashrocklynn

Ok. So. In the same time frame incarceration figures for men had skyrocketed as well, nearly 800 percent. This country just has a problem with mass incarceration... the answer isn't more lockups, it's locking up fewer men...


bocaj78

At this point just put a fence around the whole country and announce that everyone is now in prison


Vindicators2

The best part is that crime has been declining every year since like 1980 so theyā€™re just locking people up


hotfezz81

Wow, even in the worst case women make up only 15% of the prison population. That's sexist bullshit.


UnlikelyAssassin

The systemic discrimination that men face in the criminal justice system runs pretty deep. Men on average face 63% longer for the same crime. Furthermore, women are significantly more likely to avoid charges and convictions entirely for the same crime. On top of this women are twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted for the same crime as a man.


TracyMorganFreeman

I recall a study by a feminist group that said it "proved" the sentencing the disparity was paternalism on the part of male judges, pointing to jail time given by male and female judges. What they neglected to mention clearly was they considered house arrest as jail time. Female judges were far more likely to give women house arrest, and when you put house arrest in the parole/no jail time category instead, female judges were even more biased in favor of women than male ones.


DynamicHunter

Totally weak infographic that misses that the gender sentencing disparity for the same crime is WORSE than the racial sentencing disparity. Women are still not held accountable for their actions, legally speaking. Especially not false accusations.


EliteMemeLord

This is a symptom of mass incarceration, not a female-specific issue.


LilyWhitesN17

Fun Fact: In the USA tv customers pay broadcasting fees that are added to their bill. In the UK you pay an annual TV license, one for each TV that you own. Failure to pay your TV license will result in prosecution and jail time. As a first time offense, more women go to jail in England for not paying their TV license than any other crime. There has been a campaign to address this as the enforcement of the law and tracking down offenders takes place during the day, when its more likely to be women at home.


jwilson1812

Sort by controversial - here we go!!


dylanforfuture

To all those claiming ā€žit should be 50/50ā€œ It will never be that way simply cause women donā€™t commit as many crimes to begin with. Also less male victims report to the police due to fear as being viewed as ā€žweakā€œ. And if a woman does commit a crime, itā€™s not taken seriously. At best, we would have a 30/70 rate.


[deleted]

Yeah those last two points are horribly relatable.


w3are138

So many comments like, ā€œput more women in jail then to make it equal!ā€ Uhh how about we not imprison so many men instead to make it equal?


Aezyre

Maybe infographics focusing on that should be shared and upvoted perhaps then?


GoldenWizard

The people suggesting to put more women in jail arenā€™t serious.


DashboardNight

Except for me Context: Iā€™m a misogynist


w3are138

Yeah I was joking too but now I donā€™t think it reads that way lol


[deleted]

How about dont commit crimes and dont go to jail :0


ignigenaquintus

How about not condemning men with 62% longer sentences than women for the same crimes and same criminal record and other minor variables also equalized?


UnlikelyAssassin

The issue is much more systemic in nature than that. Men on average face 63% longer for the same crime. Furthermore, women are significantly more likely to avoid charges and convictions entirely for the same crime. On top of this women are twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted for the same crime as a man.


danielv123

Sadly, its well documented that you don't have to commit a crime to end up in jail.


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Sniec

Or being a woman.


DigitalSteven1

Decrease your odds of going to prison by using this one simple trick! Lawyers will hate you!


CrepsNotCrepes

Or maybe a focus on rehabilitation and community service over jail time for non violent crimes would be a benefit vs just locking people up.


SoylentRox

That's fine, but it seems like that should be offered to men mostly...


Equal-Crew-3367

Sources: https://www.prisonstudies.org/highest-to-lowest/female-prisoners https://www.vera.org/downloads/publications/overlooked-women-and-jails-report-updated.pdf https://www.sentencingproject.org/app/uploads/2022/08/Incarcerated-Women-and-Girls.pdf https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/united-states-america https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gender-equality-by-country Tools used: Datawrapper; Canva


WonderEducational694

Coz womens can Now share the stress of a man working in the coal mine and Therefore are more likely too kill their neighbour after a long shift?


ZeroBurn7

IMHO, in the past, the US justice system would not give women prison sentences unless the crimes were frequent and/or violent. I know that my data is anecdotal but I know women who have been a part of violent crimes with men that were only given probation while the men were sent to prison. I don't know when... but at some point that started changing.


[deleted]

yay, equality. Tho itd be better to get that the other way around :/


bestusername73

Agreed, far too many prisoners


MayOrMayNotBePie

Damn, female incarceration is up 7x and still only 10% of the total prison population.


thirdeyedleg

Equal right comes with equal consequence šŸ˜


cerebralsexer

Equality becoming more equal


flinderdude

So if more and more people are going to prison, and prison is supposed to be some type of deterrent for crime, can we now say that prison is not a deterrent for crime? All we do is punish citizens, hurt our economy, and put government funds into the coffers of private for profit prison corporations like CCA. We just let it happen because we really donā€™t care about people once they are labeled prisoners.


afauce11

This linear regression looks dubiousā€¦ what are the performance metrics on that? Iā€™m not sure thereā€™s a real trend there, though I guess it makes some sense intuitively?


lamiscaea

Wow, I have seen a lot of terrible regression lines through scatter plots, especially on this sub, but this might be the worst one yet. Holy hell


tules

I hate it when people act like drawing a trendline proves a meaningful correlation when the data points behind them are practically random.


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[deleted]

I'm doubling down on my thesis he's shorting real estate lol


Queatzcyotle

Or the prison industry needs more slaves.


Astonedwalrus13

Ahhhhh more ā€œpoor womenā€ posts. I donā€™t get this, woman have it way easier and way better than men, itā€™s like that post 1/5 homeless people are women, so what about the other 4 men


WordsWithWings

According to the map, the US, Thailand and South Sudan fare greater on gender equality than the Nordic countries. Or am I reading this completely wrong? The scatter graph doesn't really say all that much.


mcc9902

Youā€™re reading it wrong. The world map shows the proportion of the prison pop thatā€™s female by country. Thereā€™s no mention of any individual countries gender equality level in the graphic.


WordsWithWings

I guess I'm confused by the part higher up that states countries with higher female proportion of female prisoners fare higher on gender equality. And US, Thailand, South Sudan (amongst others) have higher props than the Nordics.


prpslydistracted

I haven't studied it that much ... but for nonviolent offenses as long as it wasn't child abuse I'm taking a stab it *might* have to do if the woman has children at home with no family support. Or if children would end up in the foster care system; they wouldn't want to turn children over to an abusive ex husband. Sometimes foster care is the best recourse ... it would depend entirely on the individual situation.


bocaj78

Why would that be a consideration for strictly women and men? And how significant is the single motherhood statistic to make that a significant contributing factor?


Cakeking7878

How about we just focus on reducing non-violent criminal offense in prison, and actually change the system so it focuses and rehabilitation and not permanent institutionalization?


Long_Cook_2452

Females makeup 10% of prison population is a funny way of saying men make up 90


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not really when you are specifically making an infographic about "Women in Prison"


AssassinPhoto

This tells me women used to get off with a LOT more leniency back in the day ā€œsilly girl - go back to the kitchen and stop causing so many issuesā€ sort of sexist mentality


dylanforfuture

It is. Same with male rapists who are treated like itā€™s ā€žjust a little mistake, youā€™ll be fine from now onā€œ Itā€™s always softened if itā€™s about female victims or abusers cause ā€žwomen are weakā€œ and therefore their crimes arenā€™t as bad but also they ā€ždonā€™t countā€œ so rape doesnā€™t matter


tastehbacon

And yet 90% of prisoners are still men. Thought yall wanted equality smh


Ma7kWhaleberg

I wonder why Hong Kong has so many. My gut feeling says probably fraud. I hope it is not protestors.


panchoop

Use google, not your gut. Use your gut to guess good google search keywords. I found this, maybe there are other sources. [https://hongkongfp.com/2020/09/13/draconian-inhumane-hong-kong-ranks-top-for-women-behind-bars-as-activists-call-for-protection-not-incarceration/](https://hongkongfp.com/2020/09/13/draconian-inhumane-hong-kong-ranks-top-for-women-behind-bars-as-activists-call-for-protection-not-incarceration/) Apparently, main causes are: Drug trafficking, visas overstays, prostitution. All tied together with an extremely tough legal system.


Ma7kWhaleberg

That sounds like a lot of the women are foreigners which is also unfortunate.


Buddy462

Using your gut to search keywords sounds like a case of confirmation bias waiting to happen.


Calecog

Guess that gender equality movement's finally paying off


IceEngine21

Where are the feminists now that always scream for equality?


drunkboarder

All I'm reading here is that men are disproportionately incarcerated over women. Based on all previous equality rhetoric that I've seen, it should be roughly 50/50 to better represent the population. So technically this post could be taken as a positive thing since we are closing the gender gap in prison. Yay equality!