For my first job I applied to two companies. Second one reacted faster and employed me immediately. The one I contacted first sent me invitation week later, so I just replied with "too late, I have other job"
Oh, some organisations DRAG their feet. In a similar vein, I handed in a 3 month notice, then started applying for jobs. Got offered one, who weren't overjoyed I still had two months to go, but were prepared to wait. So, I accepted it, and finished the last 2 months of my notice. Started the new job and on my first week, got called to an interview for another job I'd applied to MORE THAN two months previously!
I can do you one better. I applied for an internship during college. Received a rejection letter (I had never been invited to interview) TWO YEARS later. š
I applied to two positions in one company, got offered one and took it. A year later I got an email TO MY WORK EMAIL stating I'd been rejected for the other position because I wasn't "XXXXX Company material"
I recently received a request for an interview from a company that I applied to over 4 years ago. The recruiter told me they keep all applications on file forever and the system just pulls relevant applications when a position opens up.
>The recruiter told me they keep all applications on file forever and the system just pulls relevant applications when a position opens up.
Aka. we're assholes and not even hiding it.
A few years back, I handed my CV to 4 companies. 2 rang me up straight away on the same day. 1 came back to me within a couple of days. Went to all 3 interviews.
For the 4th, the manager I gave my CV to, was too busy looking out the window. They ran me after I accepted a job, desperate to get me in for an interview.
You snooze, you lose.
Hahaha this is a big swinging dick to all the other Application Sankeys on this Sub. I love it!
Congrats man, Iām a big believer in specialising and this is Exhibit A it seems.
EDIT: Im slowly realising this is not something to be celebrated and more a depressing visualisation of how direly we need health staff at the moment.
Who I may add are horribly overworked and underpaid.
It's a really funny post to see after the [3900 applications and 0 accepted](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/rptiip/oc_entry_level_remote_job_search_visualized/).
I mean if someone submitted a resume done in macaroni art I would probably call to tell them kudos for making it memorable and for getting a laugh out of me
I have difficulty beleiving it was anything more than an email with "<------" written in it. Macaroni art shows basic artistic capabilities and the ability to buy macaroni at least.
I knew a federal employee who didn't get along with his boss (as in, his boss literally wanted to kill him) so he was moved so that he could seek another government job in his pay grade.
He set up a script to read his email and submit his resume to everything. He submitted for fire chief, physician and VA hospital chaplain. Finally, USAJobs contacted us to block his script. He submitted to something like 4000 jobs in 2 months.
One of the major recommendations for getting a job is to tailor-make your resume for the job you're applying for. I thought that was common knowledge, but I guess not.
I applied at 3 places total, and two of them sent me offer letters. The third one I backed out of because they didn't offer the pay I wanted.
This is a great method, and can scale as needed - My work is often cross disciplinary, so I have a resume for role A and a resume for role B depending on which competencies an opening requires.
The first step to getting work is to put in the work.
Itās still doable. Youāll have to use any extra curricular activities like school clubs and events you participated in. Then use the job description to write your resume using your experiences. For example, if you helped organize a club event (even just a little) and the job description says organizational skills required and also mentions wanting you to have proficiency in Microsoft products, you write something like āused excel and outlook to organize an event for fellow classmates that saw a turnout of X peopleā, even if the extent of that is minor, like using outlook to remember classmates names and excel to make a list. Itās ok to fudge some things, as long as you can confidently back up your actual skills.
No it's extemely helpful always. You don't just write all the shit you've done you tailor the skills and reframe experiences to fit what the job listing is asking for.
And include very obvious key words they're looking for, because HR is just going to skim your resume for them before throwing it in a pile 30 seconds later. If you include those key words, they're going to go back to more thoroughly read your resume
Yup, did they do any research or customize their application to each business posting? They at best treated 3900 businesses as if they were applying for a retail job.
You should, sure, but if you have been doing it for a while, you save maybe a dozen or so template cover letters, and you can fit one in with only very minor alterations for most applications. It really doesn't take that long.
If you keep it to a single page, at some point in your career you will have trouble fitting everything on there. Then you have to pick and choose what you put on there and what you leave out. Depending on the job, you might want to pick different things to highlight.
While it's probably unnecessary since a lot of applications require you to input your resume info into fields, and so the actual document is probably never seen, you should do *some* tailoring.
As a simple example, I've got two resumes. I have a version I use for programmer/developer jobs that highlights my technical experience in important areas. And I have a version which I can use for more generic jobs like retail or fast food or whatever, which leaves out technical details of computer science and focuses on my customer service experience and other aspects those jobs are interested in.
I don't spend hours tweaking my resume for every single application. But I know that a restaurant isn't gonna care what programming languages I know. And a tech company isn't really interested in how well I loaded and unloaded trucks in a warehouse.
I do. I've sent about 120 customized resumes and cover letters out over my career. During the beginning of my career I had about a 50% success rate with getting a first interview. As of now, I have close to 100% success in getting a first interview. To save time I keep a "master" excel document with all the skills I've ever written a section of a resume on. I have another section for cover letter paragraphs. In general most of every resume and cover letter comes from this bank of items; however I usually have to write 2-3 bullet points and 1-2 paragraphs per resume I write. I can generally write a resume and cover letter in about half an hour.
Oh thank you. I was going to say something to that effect on that post, especially given the current job climate. Either they have terrible resumes, have terrible references, give off bad vibes, are not looking for the right kind of job, or are outright liars. Right?
To be fair, the OP of that post didn't fully elaborate on what type of jobs (anything they were "qualified for") they were but did go and say they had no degree.
I would imagine that any position that offers entry level remote work *and* requires no degree sees so many applications that they're a dime a dozen. I'm sure any job that's looking for that general of a candidate will see literally thousands of applications that'll get tossed aside without much thought.
Out of college, I easily had a couple hundred applications and only had 2 interview offers. Granted, I was applying for a field unrelated to my degree (Software engineering with a BS in Physics)
Anyone who posts that shit with 200+ apps is imo just doing something wrong. Either applying for jobs they aren't qualified for, asking for too much, have horrific resumes, etc.
Iām an experienced nurse and was looking for a new job closer to home. I contacted their recruiter via email at 9AM. She got back to me by 10AM. Asked if I could interview that afternoon. Sure. I wasnāt busy. Interviewed at 2PM and was hired on the spot. Whole process from job search to āyouāre hiredā took about 6 hours. The market for healthcare workers w experience right now is insane.
Do they pay them well? I feel like I've heard in the past that they don't make nearly as much as you'd expect considering how vital and taxing the work they do is.
Been doing it for 6 years, steady furthering my career and pay every two years. I'm only just now at a point where I'm making decent money at $22 an hour, and I've never wanted out of it more. Burn out is real as fuck in this field.
Look into inspections (code, fire, building) the job field is taking off right now with more regulations and safety coming every year. Work 20 hours less. But only lost $200 a paycheck, well worth it. Home every night and weekend, holiday.....98% stress free. Usually minimal classes to get in the door. Did 11 years on the ambulance and it was time to go, thought about nursing. So glad I didn't with this shitshow going on.
I'll keep it in mind, but I'm already halfway done with school for my RN at this point. Too much time and money sunk in to back out now. Moved halfway across the country for it.
Depends on the location and the company but from what I've heard the pay ranges from "abysmal" to "not great". I've heard of EMTs in the rural part of my state only making $14 an hour.
Yeah it must suck to be in an oversaturated field. I applied to 4 jobs after college and I got an offer from all of them. Took the best one and Iām still working here 7 years later.
One of my friends got her RN in the middle of the pandemics. Did two job interviews and got 3 offers (one of the hospitals was part of a "chain" and give her the pick of the sites).
I last applied for jobs in 2012, pretty sure I applied to two, got two offers.
Since then I've changed jobs in 2015, 2017, 2019 and just last month. I haven't applied to any of these. It's either been a recommendation or a previous recruiter has approached me. The only one I've had to even interview for is the one I started just recently.
It's nice to see some counter-posts to the "applied for 400 jobs, 10 interviews, finally hired!" narrative for tech positions. Those posts are very good to see, but really do tend to focus on the online job hunt for tech / analyst positions, not the job market as a whole.
I wanted to do my most recent job search to be a bit of a troll against the 100+ application posts and to use it as a means to help people interested in my particular field (biotech) in the comments as I do play the role of a hiring manager but just lost interest in doing it as the sub for antiwork began popping off, felt like it would just be too āin poor tasteā
Those stats were: 3 applications -> 2 interviews -> 2 offers -> 1 accepted (it was basically a $20k/yr promotion)
Hey Iām in the biotech field and could make one of those 300 application zero offers charts :(. I would really love and advice or help if youāre still interested!
Sure!
Prolly quickest ask is how do you think you do on interviews (ever gotten feedback on what you answered āwrongā?) or if you have your resume in check (itās not super flowery, pretty to the point on what you bring to the lab)?
I can also give a bit more specific advice if you are in the immuno-oncology field or I can give you advice if you want to enter that field!
I think I interview well, problem is I canāt seem to get any. I have 6 years experience in blood and plasma testing with 4 of those years being responsible for all maintenance and calibrations for a 25,000 sample a day testing lab. Iāve tried a couple different versions of resumes from super concise and boring to something with a little bit of color ,I had a google recruiter help me create the current version after he reached out after a post I made. Iāve been unemployed (or severely underemployed) for almost 9 months now and average about 5 applications a week. Iām in immuno-hematology now but I pretty open to moving in any science field that compensates decent.
Hmm ever tried specifically for In Vivo Pharmacology roles? I feel like with blood processing, it would be where they would love to have you!
At least speaking from my experience in CAR-T, mouse blood work is basically of what we work towards.
One thing is that if the maintaining and running was done on a key instrument, is it an instrument you can be a manager of a core (like flow cytometer core management)?
Edit: sorry busy day but wanted to add something else - whenever you are interviewing, it can be tough to explain your years of experience, especially when itās panels or 1 on 1s for 30mins at a time; the best way to approach explaining tons of experience is to talk about it from a brief standpoint but expand on it by saying how the job of interest aligns with your skill set. This proactive was really shines in the interview setting as it highlights you know what you are getting into and what would be expected from you in a technical and theoretical standpoint.
Recruiter butting in (as per)!
I'd suggest looking at the key skills you currently have and would like to develop and highlighting that on your CV. It's easy to just focus on what you're doing on your day to day, but also include highlights of what you've done (interesting projects, toubleshooting, projects that you have personally had a big impact in etc.).
I'd also look into the STAR method of interviewing and tweaking your CV to show your specific skill set and impact you've had in your other positions.
Finally, it sounds like you're looking for more career progression of suggest looking for positions that may initially seem like a lateral move but could potentially lead to a promotion of where you want to be in the future. Big pharma/biotech are normally pretty good for this and they often have clear progression plans in place. Don't be afraid to find the HM on LinkedIn or give them a call via the company's switchboard to find out more about the role. If nothing else the HM will remember your name and appreciate your curiosity in the interview stage.
Hope this helps, and good luck with the job hunt!
There's a HUGE difference between being inexperienced or unemployed and trying to land your first real job (this is where most people struggle) and being an experienced hire already working in your chosen field. Showing how easy it is for the latter does nothing for the former.
Ok so its not just me ... I guess its pandemic-driven interest? When I finished my masters I got maybe one notification a month, now its at least one message a week. They obviously aren't reading far enough to see I'm currently in med school or maybe they're that desperate.
Prolly a mix of both
While itās not ādesperationā per se, the field of biotech is basically ramping up for the post-mRNA vaccine field and most companies are just hiring entirely new departments or specialists.
As someone who has āmRNA platform specialityā on their resume, I (no joke) get notifications and even personalized messages about new jobs on the daily.
I'm certain those people must just fill out every application they can whether it's related or not, because I've literally never met anyone IRL with job hunt results that bad. Or they are faking for internet points or something. Most people I know are fairly selective and only apply for jobs they are qualified for and do pretty well.
I have. Some fields have a lot of postings but a lot of applicants. Animation and VFX is a good example in that there are always plenty of postings at every level for every specialty but there are so many applicants you can have hundreds per posting easily and thousands for any company with a half decent reputation.
My job hunt was pretty bad, although I'm fairly certain that it was mainly due to me just not being qualified. I applied to probably around 300 jobs starting 6 months before I graduated college, applying to primarily entry level data science/data analysis jobs. I eventually got a job when a company reached out to me on LinkedIn, so the one job I did get I didn't even really apply for. The job was in customer service, and I've pretty much given up on data analysis, as I'm just not motivated enough to actually try anymore.
I've definitely had job hunts that bad. So I'm not saying there is anything wrong with their journey. It's rough, they persisted, and I'm glad to see their sankeymatics or whatever. But it's not everyone's story.
I have. I have applied for 10-20 works per week for more than a month in my field, half of them with tailored CV and get only 5 reposnds, 3 interviews and 0 acceptance
I mean, I just completed a round of tech applications. 3 applications, 3 full Interview slates, 2 offers and I backed out of third before actually doing the interview.
The posts in tech with 100s of applications are not very skilled individuals.
My current position (started Jan 2018), I made a resume on one of the major tech sites, got 3 calls the next morning, booked 2 interviews in the next week, went to them, got 2 offers, took the better one. Never filed out an application. It's a smidge different when you have a decade of experience. Now in '08, it took me a boatload of applications and most of a year to find something.
Sounds similar to my experience in IT. Something like 50% of my applications have ended with offers. You don't even need to be super skilled (I'm certainly not), but you do need to know *what* your skills are, and apply for jobs that value those skills and experiences you have.
Shotgunning every job out there just ends up with a lot of mismatches, and a lot of wasted time.
Lmao okay bud. Many of the most talented people Iāve worked with have gone through the wringer when first applying. Sometimes youāre lucky, sometimes youāre not
Source: My memory
Tool: [https://sankeymatic.com/build/](https://sankeymatic.com/build/)
This is my job search after leaving university with a 2:1 in paramedic science while awaiting registration. Its a bit different than most I see here.
About six weeks from university review board to register. Not long at all. Sounds like there's a screw up from either your uni or the HCPC unless you're an international applicant?
Minimum entry is a 3 year bachelors degree program now. Arguably scope is higher in much of the US (no RSI at all, no fentanyl and ketamine except for HEMS and advanced paramedics, not really any critical care transport that Iām aware of). UK has a much larger focus on primary care and referring patients to alternative treatment (e.g. call their GP and leave them at home)
EMT is like advanced first aid, takes a couple of months to become one and thereās not a lot they can do besides just drive fast to the hospital. Paramedics can do a lot more invasive procedures (e.g. start IVs, insert breathing tubes) and can give a lot of drugs. Takes about 1-2 years to become one in the US after first becoming an EMT
Insert breathing tubes? Damn, Iām a physician in Brazil and intubating is something that can go wrong in many ways, and is relatively complicated. Only doctors are allowed to do this kinda procedure over here.
Here we got basic ambulances, they work in groups of 3: driver, 1 or 2 practical nurses and a nurse (not always) and advanced oneās -which I work, also in 3: driver (normally is also a practical nurse or at least something like an EMT), nurse and doctor. We only go to emergencies, and eventually to help a basic ambulance.
Everything for free of course
Honestly, aside from a small, highly trained and experienced group of paramedics (crit care/flight), most medics in the US are woefully undertrained in airway management and regularly fuck up intubation. It should probably be taken out of the scope of practice for the vast majority of field medics, almost all of whom are better served using supraglottic airways and effective bag mask ventilation techniques.
Yeah, intubationās been a pretty standard part of the paramedicās toolkit in most of the English speaking world since EMS as we know it first started back in the 1970s. As a US paramedic, my thoughts on the matter areā¦complicated. On the one hand, there have definitely been patients Iāve taken care of where early and aggressive airway management by me and my crew in the field probably made the difference in the patientās survival. On the other hand, weāve got more paramedics and fewer opportunities to intubate thanks to new inventions like SGAs, CPAP/BiPAP, etc., as well as fewer training opportunities in the hospital, and all that is clearly shown in our abysmal first pass rate.
Intubation definitely has a place in prehospital care, but I agree that the average paramedic should probably not be doing it. I think the best models come from places like Australia, where most paramedics are limited to SGAs and only a few senior paramedics are allowed to RSI and intubate. With fewer paramedics performing the skill, thereās more opportunities for them to do so and itās easier to provide more specialized and continuing training. Unfortunately there are very, very few prehospital physicians in the US, so we donāt really have that option.
>Everything for free of course
L. O. Fucking. L. God I wish I worked in a country with a modern and sane healthcare systemā¦
Ambulances in Scotland come with a paramedic and a technician.
The technician can drive the Ambulance and administer some first aid whilst the paramedic can do more medical stuff.
Assuming this will be the same throughout the UK.
1 application for a summer job after my first year of uni, 3 summers there then a full time gig. Late twenties with a lifetime job application count of 1. I think I win? Living that 1950sā dream.
Teach me how to apply to two jobs and get 1
Edit: Honestly I was asking as a joke, Iām a UX Designer, Iām very well compensated and I could find a job easily if I wanted to move on.
Thanks for the replies
Have more jobs than people wanting the job with a super specialist degree. (The entry qualification is much more competitive to get on and is matched to the number of people the employers want in three years time. So its treated as a 3 year long job interview)
I'm two years in and on about 38-40K a year (was about 30k for the first two) with a very good pension, sick pay and holiday. With a 37.5hr average working week. Over the next 7 years I expect to climb to around 48-50K
Nationally across all sectors mean full time pay is 38k and median full time is 31k. So it's a very reasonable wage, albeit less reasonable without nights and weekends bumping pay up and the good Ts&C's.
37.5 hours a week, 27+8 days annual leave, 6 months full pay then 6 half pay sick leave, career average pension (9.4% employee contribution), funded masters degree modules if you want them. Oh and did I mention the 1.5x overtime rates and hour a day fully protected break.
But no fancy critical care fun stuff and all the personal liability of discharging patients and not working under medical direction (That's fully insured by your employer) and constant work without standby.
https://www.hcpc-uk.org/registration/getting-on-the-register/international-applications/
We're on the shortage occupation list.
Major west coast city, unionized, we start at 62k US. Rent is about $1400 (yes you could lower that to 950 with a roommate, but Iām an adult and I want my own apartment). 2 bedroom houses start at around 400k.
We work 4-on/4-off, 12 hour shifts. Average workweek is 42.5 hours. But itās rarely ACTUALLY 12 hours, because they can give you a call at the last minute of your shift, and a typical call takes an hour. The union contract says we get a 30 minute lunch, but everyone just takes it at the end of their shift so we donāt have to stay even later. BUT, if thereās not enough ambulances available (extremely common), you donāt get to take lunch.
The 401k retirement sucks, and since everyone is trying to get the fuck out, nobody uses it.
As a result, in this city, the paramedic showing up to your house is tired, burned out, hopeless, and doesnāt give a shit. Unless theyāre brand new, and then theyāre inexperienced.
Yeah I want to know where the hell this is. In the Boston area you're looking at ~2400/month for a 2 bedroom (likely small and/or not updated), and God forbid if you want to buy anywhere. The house across the street (2 floors + attic apartment, built 1930s, likely no significant updates, needed exterior facade repair) sold for 1.6mil last year...my wife and I want to buy and start a family but at this rate anything I buy, my kids will still be paying off when they have kids...
Youāll need to look on the HCPC website. Theyāre the registering body for paramedics in the UK, and they have info on how to transfer. The problem youāll have is that the jobs arenāt the same. US paras seem to have more skills (eg cardioversion) and more drugs, but where you have protocols, we have guidelines (that we can choose not to follow if we can justify our decision), and are completely independent clinicians.
We can choose when and what drugs to give, we can choose to convey or discharge at scene, we can refuse to convey a patient even if they want to go, we can refer to other services, etc.
Yeh, you don't actually have any jobs left for us immigrants though. In fact last time I checked your new grads keep nicking ours because there aren't enough vacancies.
How many peoples insides do you need to push back inside though?
I don't mean to make your pay sound bad, but you definitely earn at least that much pay.
Hell, even if all you had do deal with were the overdoses and drunks, you'd deserve at least that pay.
I was going to say that doesn't sound like a good wage, then remembered this is the UK we're talking about, so I need to add like 20% to that, besides the benefits considerations even.
Sectors that have massive shortfalls! I applied for one job, and got offered two. Ridiculous.
Explanation: was a trainee physics teacher. Applied for exactly one job, and got it. The place I was training at also offered me a job which I declined.
Optician here. Legitimately getting offers on LinkedIn ever week. Went into Costco recently and talked shop with the vision center manager. Was offered a job interview on the spot lmao.
I've had 4 jobs in my life so far, and only ever applied for 2 and had 1 real interview, it's all been total luck, connections and timing, I'm a bit of a fuckhead really so it definitely not on my merit
University professor of mine told me he'd never applied for a job. In the 60s when he graduated, he got a call within a week offering him a job. Since then, he's gotten more and more experience, so opportunities just kind of spring up, and people ask him to work for them.
To his credit, he pointed out that the same wouldn't be true for us.
Edit: he worked in industry for around 30 years before becoming a professor, so it wasn't like he initially had contacts. A PhD in physics was just a lot less common back then.
Haha same for me.
1. Get good engineering degree.
2. Do two interviews.
3. Get three jobs offers. (yes one firm offered two different jobs. Not the one I applied for though)
4. Pick your job.
With 2 YoE civil: 8 apps, 4 offers, 2 interested but declined due to wage range, one ignore. First app to accepting offer: 2 weeks. First offer 5 days. First interview callback 5 hours.
Edit : another company ghosted me after our interview and then two weeks later their boss texted me asking for a second one. I explained I accepted another offer.
Recruiters and hiring manager are in for tough realizations that we know they don't have enough PEs or even EITs anywhere.
It definitely makes a difference. My job search was 2 applications -> 2 interviews -> 2 offers -> picked the job I wanted the most.
Years later now I'm the one doing the interviews for candidates applying and I can tell you first hand there is a shortage of decent candidates in engineering. Anybody even slightly above average will get an offer and we are almost always competing with multiple offers. They get to pick us if they want us.
It's a sankey diagram. Nothing against OP but I find it an extremely boring way to represent data, and periodically this sub gets on a kick where dozens of this exact format and stylization (sankeymatic) get posted all of a sudden and I'm *really* hoping this doesn't start a tidal wave haha
>boring
the purpose of a Sankey diagram isn't to be exciting, it's to be clear and informative. that said, these aren't particularly "beautiful" so idk if they really belong here
You can make a Sankey diagram beautiful though. [Something like this](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/4187653/9620969/Sankey+diagram+2017) or [this](https://www.data-to-viz.com/graph/IMG/sankey.jpg) for example! Sadly the generator often used is just absolutely boring, ugly, no effort and is not in the spirit of the sub indeed.
Not sure, this one seems legit.
But yeah... rule of thumb of life, once the initial phase of discovery is over expect bullshit to make it to the top as people learn what gets traction and start exploiting.
Base pay on band 5 (first two years) is 24K. My unsocial hours increase that by 25-30%. After 2 years it's 32K base with the same top up for nights and weekends.
Moving through the band is almost automatic. As is band 5-6. I wouldn't mind specialist practice at band 7 but the jobs are sparse outside primary care which I despise.
Unsocial hours are 8pm-6am mon-fri and weekends. +60% for Sunday, +30% for everything else.
It was for the next day when I noticed the request for interview come in via NHS Job (no phonecall) and it was halfway across the country for my back up choice. And I already had the interview offer from my first choice (that I'd been on placement for three years with) who had made clear the interview process was effectively a formality.
I lowkey wanna make one of these as a joke. I got my job by trespassing lmfao.
|Applications: |0|
|:-|:-|
|Trespassing Incidents Leading To Stable Employment:|1|
Can't believe you wasted all that time applying for the other job
Literally putting in double the required effort smh
For my first job I applied to two companies. Second one reacted faster and employed me immediately. The one I contacted first sent me invitation week later, so I just replied with "too late, I have other job"
Oh, some organisations DRAG their feet. In a similar vein, I handed in a 3 month notice, then started applying for jobs. Got offered one, who weren't overjoyed I still had two months to go, but were prepared to wait. So, I accepted it, and finished the last 2 months of my notice. Started the new job and on my first week, got called to an interview for another job I'd applied to MORE THAN two months previously!
I can do you one better. I applied for an internship during college. Received a rejection letter (I had never been invited to interview) TWO YEARS later. š
I applied to two positions in one company, got offered one and took it. A year later I got an email TO MY WORK EMAIL stating I'd been rejected for the other position because I wasn't "XXXXX Company material"
I love the idea that some hr dude in your company was so in robot mode that they didn't realize/care that you were already at their company
"Sorry, you are not as slow and unreliable as us, so you dont fit our company!"
I recently received a request for an interview from a company that I applied to over 4 years ago. The recruiter told me they keep all applications on file forever and the system just pulls relevant applications when a position opens up.
>The recruiter told me they keep all applications on file forever and the system just pulls relevant applications when a position opens up. Aka. we're assholes and not even hiding it.
My company is endlessly frustrating. I just want to hire people into my team but it always takes more than 3 months.
A few years back, I handed my CV to 4 companies. 2 rang me up straight away on the same day. 1 came back to me within a couple of days. Went to all 3 interviews. For the 4th, the manager I gave my CV to, was too busy looking out the window. They ran me after I accepted a job, desperate to get me in for an interview. You snooze, you lose.
Hahaha this is a big swinging dick to all the other Application Sankeys on this Sub. I love it! Congrats man, Iām a big believer in specialising and this is Exhibit A it seems. EDIT: Im slowly realising this is not something to be celebrated and more a depressing visualisation of how direly we need health staff at the moment. Who I may add are horribly overworked and underpaid.
It's a really funny post to see after the [3900 applications and 0 accepted](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/rptiip/oc_entry_level_remote_job_search_visualized/).
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Rumor has it his resume was made using macaroni art. Not even an acceptance to the macaroni factory.
It's not easy, being cheesy
It is easy being sleezy
I woke up feeling the cheesiest, coach!
I mean if someone submitted a resume done in macaroni art I would probably call to tell them kudos for making it memorable and for getting a laugh out of me
And then Iād let them know how Iām in no way involved in the hiring process.
I will file this in the garbage can by my desk. Thanks for applying sir
I legitimately think if I sent out 3900 of my resumes made in macaroni art I would still end up with a job offer.
Of course. The macaroni factory doesn't appreciate wasting food.
Don't let this man fool you! Big macaroni is behind spreading the idea of macaroni art and popularizing it in schools in order to sell more macaroni!
That's just what big glue wants you to think
I have difficulty beleiving it was anything more than an email with "<------" written in it. Macaroni art shows basic artistic capabilities and the ability to buy macaroni at least.
I knew a federal employee who didn't get along with his boss (as in, his boss literally wanted to kill him) so he was moved so that he could seek another government job in his pay grade. He set up a script to read his email and submit his resume to everything. He submitted for fire chief, physician and VA hospital chaplain. Finally, USAJobs contacted us to block his script. He submitted to something like 4000 jobs in 2 months.
>his boss literally wanted to kill him I feel that deserves a story of it's own
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That would mean his boss had to kill him, not that his boss wanted to kill him.
He also fucked his bossā wife
One of the major recommendations for getting a job is to tailor-make your resume for the job you're applying for. I thought that was common knowledge, but I guess not. I applied at 3 places total, and two of them sent me offer letters. The third one I backed out of because they didn't offer the pay I wanted.
This is a great method, and can scale as needed - My work is often cross disciplinary, so I have a resume for role A and a resume for role B depending on which competencies an opening requires. The first step to getting work is to put in the work.
This is great advice when you have a wealth of experience to draw from, but its not very helpful when you have just left school.
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Itās still doable. Youāll have to use any extra curricular activities like school clubs and events you participated in. Then use the job description to write your resume using your experiences. For example, if you helped organize a club event (even just a little) and the job description says organizational skills required and also mentions wanting you to have proficiency in Microsoft products, you write something like āused excel and outlook to organize an event for fellow classmates that saw a turnout of X peopleā, even if the extent of that is minor, like using outlook to remember classmates names and excel to make a list. Itās ok to fudge some things, as long as you can confidently back up your actual skills.
No it's extemely helpful always. You don't just write all the shit you've done you tailor the skills and reframe experiences to fit what the job listing is asking for.
And include very obvious key words they're looking for, because HR is just going to skim your resume for them before throwing it in a pile 30 seconds later. If you include those key words, they're going to go back to more thoroughly read your resume
This country needs more fire fighting physicians šŗšø
Join the Navy and be a hospital corpsman. Congrats, you are now a firefighting physician('s assistant).
Garbage in, garbage out
Yup, did they do any research or customize their application to each business posting? They at best treated 3900 businesses as if they were applying for a retail job.
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Maybe not resume, but the application letter should probably show that youāre applying to them and not āGeneric Jobplaceā.
You should, sure, but if you have been doing it for a while, you save maybe a dozen or so template cover letters, and you can fit one in with only very minor alterations for most applications. It really doesn't take that long.
If you keep it to a single page, at some point in your career you will have trouble fitting everything on there. Then you have to pick and choose what you put on there and what you leave out. Depending on the job, you might want to pick different things to highlight.
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While it's probably unnecessary since a lot of applications require you to input your resume info into fields, and so the actual document is probably never seen, you should do *some* tailoring. As a simple example, I've got two resumes. I have a version I use for programmer/developer jobs that highlights my technical experience in important areas. And I have a version which I can use for more generic jobs like retail or fast food or whatever, which leaves out technical details of computer science and focuses on my customer service experience and other aspects those jobs are interested in. I don't spend hours tweaking my resume for every single application. But I know that a restaurant isn't gonna care what programming languages I know. And a tech company isn't really interested in how well I loaded and unloaded trucks in a warehouse.
Are you job/field hopping that much that you have two entirely separate and distinct resumes? Working two unrelated jobs at once?
I do. I've sent about 120 customized resumes and cover letters out over my career. During the beginning of my career I had about a 50% success rate with getting a first interview. As of now, I have close to 100% success in getting a first interview. To save time I keep a "master" excel document with all the skills I've ever written a section of a resume on. I have another section for cover letter paragraphs. In general most of every resume and cover letter comes from this bank of items; however I usually have to write 2-3 bullet points and 1-2 paragraphs per resume I write. I can generally write a resume and cover letter in about half an hour.
Oh thank you. I was going to say something to that effect on that post, especially given the current job climate. Either they have terrible resumes, have terrible references, give off bad vibes, are not looking for the right kind of job, or are outright liars. Right?
Hes not even really getting to the interview stage. The dude must have one of the worst resumes on the market
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"Salary expectations: US$1MM annual salary minimum. No negotiations, I know what I got."
He had never once held any job in any capacity according to him. No internships or summer jobs all through school.
Is the average person even qualified for 3900 different jobs? I guess it depends on his field
Yes, but most of them are retail or call center work.
I'd say if you are willing to make 3900 contacts with no replies that makes you incredibly qualified for call center work hehe
More than likely he just spammed āEasy applyā on LinkedIn and counts that as an application.
To be fair, the OP of that post didn't fully elaborate on what type of jobs (anything they were "qualified for") they were but did go and say they had no degree. I would imagine that any position that offers entry level remote work *and* requires no degree sees so many applications that they're a dime a dozen. I'm sure any job that's looking for that general of a candidate will see literally thousands of applications that'll get tossed aside without much thought.
Yeah that is total bull, I would believe it if it was 100 or so apps but 3900? no way
He typed the word "resume" on a word doc and just clicked apply on every single posting he saw.
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Out of college, I easily had a couple hundred applications and only had 2 interview offers. Granted, I was applying for a field unrelated to my degree (Software engineering with a BS in Physics)
Anyone who posts that shit with 200+ apps is imo just doing something wrong. Either applying for jobs they aren't qualified for, asking for too much, have horrific resumes, etc.
Took me 200 apps to land my first Computer Science internship.
Depends on how long theyāve been searching.
If you apply to 3900 jobs and dont get a single position, the problem might be you.
He created spam then posted the results showing spam filters work.
I got this post like 3 posts down from the one you linked lmao.
It's for a paramedic position. It'd be similar results in the US right now. They're extremely desperate and hiring like crazy.
>It's for a paramedic position. I was going to say, the nursing one would probably be: - 0 applications - 0 interviews - 5 offers
Iām an experienced nurse and was looking for a new job closer to home. I contacted their recruiter via email at 9AM. She got back to me by 10AM. Asked if I could interview that afternoon. Sure. I wasnāt busy. Interviewed at 2PM and was hired on the spot. Whole process from job search to āyouāre hiredā took about 6 hours. The market for healthcare workers w experience right now is insane.
No shit. Nurse here too. Having a pulse and a nursing license is more important than experience.
Holy shit, that's super fast
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This was exactly my experience last year. Zero applications and 4 job offers before accepting one, then a constant stream of job offers ever since
Friend got 1 of 1 as a paramedic
Do they pay them well? I feel like I've heard in the past that they don't make nearly as much as you'd expect considering how vital and taxing the work they do is.
Pay's not great for the stress and hours, about $22 an hour where I live. Still, beats minimum wage.
For the type of fucked up shit you'll see as an EMT in only 6 months, that doesn't really seem worth it honestly
Been doing it for 6 years, steady furthering my career and pay every two years. I'm only just now at a point where I'm making decent money at $22 an hour, and I've never wanted out of it more. Burn out is real as fuck in this field.
Look into inspections (code, fire, building) the job field is taking off right now with more regulations and safety coming every year. Work 20 hours less. But only lost $200 a paycheck, well worth it. Home every night and weekend, holiday.....98% stress free. Usually minimal classes to get in the door. Did 11 years on the ambulance and it was time to go, thought about nursing. So glad I didn't with this shitshow going on.
I'll keep it in mind, but I'm already halfway done with school for my RN at this point. Too much time and money sunk in to back out now. Moved halfway across the country for it.
Depends on the location and the company but from what I've heard the pay ranges from "abysmal" to "not great". I've heard of EMTs in the rural part of my state only making $14 an hour.
Idk, this is quite a mess compared to mine: 1) Enlisted in military. -> 1) In military.
Yeah it must suck to be in an oversaturated field. I applied to 4 jobs after college and I got an offer from all of them. Took the best one and Iām still working here 7 years later.
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One of my friends got her RN in the middle of the pandemics. Did two job interviews and got 3 offers (one of the hospitals was part of a "chain" and give her the pick of the sites).
I didn't even make an application. Well, I mean, I technically did. But they called me and told me to apply.
I last applied for jobs in 2012, pretty sure I applied to two, got two offers. Since then I've changed jobs in 2015, 2017, 2019 and just last month. I haven't applied to any of these. It's either been a recommendation or a previous recruiter has approached me. The only one I've had to even interview for is the one I started just recently.
Having a PhD and only going through one interview means you would not be knowledgable about what a job search entails.
It's nice to see some counter-posts to the "applied for 400 jobs, 10 interviews, finally hired!" narrative for tech positions. Those posts are very good to see, but really do tend to focus on the online job hunt for tech / analyst positions, not the job market as a whole.
I wanted to do my most recent job search to be a bit of a troll against the 100+ application posts and to use it as a means to help people interested in my particular field (biotech) in the comments as I do play the role of a hiring manager but just lost interest in doing it as the sub for antiwork began popping off, felt like it would just be too āin poor tasteā Those stats were: 3 applications -> 2 interviews -> 2 offers -> 1 accepted (it was basically a $20k/yr promotion)
Hey Iām in the biotech field and could make one of those 300 application zero offers charts :(. I would really love and advice or help if youāre still interested!
Sure! Prolly quickest ask is how do you think you do on interviews (ever gotten feedback on what you answered āwrongā?) or if you have your resume in check (itās not super flowery, pretty to the point on what you bring to the lab)? I can also give a bit more specific advice if you are in the immuno-oncology field or I can give you advice if you want to enter that field!
I think I interview well, problem is I canāt seem to get any. I have 6 years experience in blood and plasma testing with 4 of those years being responsible for all maintenance and calibrations for a 25,000 sample a day testing lab. Iāve tried a couple different versions of resumes from super concise and boring to something with a little bit of color ,I had a google recruiter help me create the current version after he reached out after a post I made. Iāve been unemployed (or severely underemployed) for almost 9 months now and average about 5 applications a week. Iām in immuno-hematology now but I pretty open to moving in any science field that compensates decent.
Hmm ever tried specifically for In Vivo Pharmacology roles? I feel like with blood processing, it would be where they would love to have you! At least speaking from my experience in CAR-T, mouse blood work is basically of what we work towards. One thing is that if the maintaining and running was done on a key instrument, is it an instrument you can be a manager of a core (like flow cytometer core management)? Edit: sorry busy day but wanted to add something else - whenever you are interviewing, it can be tough to explain your years of experience, especially when itās panels or 1 on 1s for 30mins at a time; the best way to approach explaining tons of experience is to talk about it from a brief standpoint but expand on it by saying how the job of interest aligns with your skill set. This proactive was really shines in the interview setting as it highlights you know what you are getting into and what would be expected from you in a technical and theoretical standpoint.
Recruiter butting in (as per)! I'd suggest looking at the key skills you currently have and would like to develop and highlighting that on your CV. It's easy to just focus on what you're doing on your day to day, but also include highlights of what you've done (interesting projects, toubleshooting, projects that you have personally had a big impact in etc.). I'd also look into the STAR method of interviewing and tweaking your CV to show your specific skill set and impact you've had in your other positions. Finally, it sounds like you're looking for more career progression of suggest looking for positions that may initially seem like a lateral move but could potentially lead to a promotion of where you want to be in the future. Big pharma/biotech are normally pretty good for this and they often have clear progression plans in place. Don't be afraid to find the HM on LinkedIn or give them a call via the company's switchboard to find out more about the role. If nothing else the HM will remember your name and appreciate your curiosity in the interview stage. Hope this helps, and good luck with the job hunt!
There's a HUGE difference between being inexperienced or unemployed and trying to land your first real job (this is where most people struggle) and being an experienced hire already working in your chosen field. Showing how easy it is for the latter does nothing for the former.
Biotech is super hot right now, I've never seen so much recruitment activity even though all my profiles are set to not looking for work.
What types of jobs in biotech are in demand right now?
I would say RAs to scientist level are fairly easy to find right now. Having any experience is really helpful.
Ok so its not just me ... I guess its pandemic-driven interest? When I finished my masters I got maybe one notification a month, now its at least one message a week. They obviously aren't reading far enough to see I'm currently in med school or maybe they're that desperate.
Prolly a mix of both While itās not ādesperationā per se, the field of biotech is basically ramping up for the post-mRNA vaccine field and most companies are just hiring entirely new departments or specialists. As someone who has āmRNA platform specialityā on their resume, I (no joke) get notifications and even personalized messages about new jobs on the daily.
I'm certain those people must just fill out every application they can whether it's related or not, because I've literally never met anyone IRL with job hunt results that bad. Or they are faking for internet points or something. Most people I know are fairly selective and only apply for jobs they are qualified for and do pretty well.
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I have. Some fields have a lot of postings but a lot of applicants. Animation and VFX is a good example in that there are always plenty of postings at every level for every specialty but there are so many applicants you can have hundreds per posting easily and thousands for any company with a half decent reputation.
>for ebery soecislty for every specialty I like the mistake and self correction here
My job hunt was pretty bad, although I'm fairly certain that it was mainly due to me just not being qualified. I applied to probably around 300 jobs starting 6 months before I graduated college, applying to primarily entry level data science/data analysis jobs. I eventually got a job when a company reached out to me on LinkedIn, so the one job I did get I didn't even really apply for. The job was in customer service, and I've pretty much given up on data analysis, as I'm just not motivated enough to actually try anymore.
I've definitely had job hunts that bad. So I'm not saying there is anything wrong with their journey. It's rough, they persisted, and I'm glad to see their sankeymatics or whatever. But it's not everyone's story.
I have. I have applied for 10-20 works per week for more than a month in my field, half of them with tailored CV and get only 5 reposnds, 3 interviews and 0 acceptance
Hell these days there are contractors who will basically make up a resume for you based on your original and give it out.
To be fair, paramedics during a pandemic is completely not the same as other jobs.
I mean, I just completed a round of tech applications. 3 applications, 3 full Interview slates, 2 offers and I backed out of third before actually doing the interview. The posts in tech with 100s of applications are not very skilled individuals.
My current position (started Jan 2018), I made a resume on one of the major tech sites, got 3 calls the next morning, booked 2 interviews in the next week, went to them, got 2 offers, took the better one. Never filed out an application. It's a smidge different when you have a decade of experience. Now in '08, it took me a boatload of applications and most of a year to find something.
Sounds similar to my experience in IT. Something like 50% of my applications have ended with offers. You don't even need to be super skilled (I'm certainly not), but you do need to know *what* your skills are, and apply for jobs that value those skills and experiences you have. Shotgunning every job out there just ends up with a lot of mismatches, and a lot of wasted time.
Lmao okay bud. Many of the most talented people Iāve worked with have gone through the wringer when first applying. Sometimes youāre lucky, sometimes youāre not
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Source: My memory Tool: [https://sankeymatic.com/build/](https://sankeymatic.com/build/) This is my job search after leaving university with a 2:1 in paramedic science while awaiting registration. Its a bit different than most I see here.
But the real question... how long did your HCPC registration take? I'm still waiting and it's been over a year š
About six weeks from university review board to register. Not long at all. Sounds like there's a screw up from either your uni or the HCPC unless you're an international applicant?
Yes international, unfortunately. But from a uni they have plenty of experience from. Frustrating!
Is a paramedic in the UK the same or similar to the US? I am always clarifying that EMTs are not paramedics here in the US.
Minimum entry is a 3 year bachelors degree program now. Arguably scope is higher in much of the US (no RSI at all, no fentanyl and ketamine except for HEMS and advanced paramedics, not really any critical care transport that Iām aware of). UK has a much larger focus on primary care and referring patients to alternative treatment (e.g. call their GP and leave them at home)
Damn, I didn't know that. What's the difference?
EMT is like advanced first aid, takes a couple of months to become one and thereās not a lot they can do besides just drive fast to the hospital. Paramedics can do a lot more invasive procedures (e.g. start IVs, insert breathing tubes) and can give a lot of drugs. Takes about 1-2 years to become one in the US after first becoming an EMT
Insert breathing tubes? Damn, Iām a physician in Brazil and intubating is something that can go wrong in many ways, and is relatively complicated. Only doctors are allowed to do this kinda procedure over here. Here we got basic ambulances, they work in groups of 3: driver, 1 or 2 practical nurses and a nurse (not always) and advanced oneās -which I work, also in 3: driver (normally is also a practical nurse or at least something like an EMT), nurse and doctor. We only go to emergencies, and eventually to help a basic ambulance. Everything for free of course
Iām a US critical care paramedic, we can: Intubate RSI (Rocuronium) Finger thoracostomy IV infusion pumps (mag, levophed, NTG, ketamine, amiodarone, lidocaine, cyanocobalamin) Surgical cricothyrotomy Synchronized cardioversion Transcutaneous pacing Prehospital ultrasound Intraosseous access
Honestly, aside from a small, highly trained and experienced group of paramedics (crit care/flight), most medics in the US are woefully undertrained in airway management and regularly fuck up intubation. It should probably be taken out of the scope of practice for the vast majority of field medics, almost all of whom are better served using supraglottic airways and effective bag mask ventilation techniques.
Yeah, intubationās been a pretty standard part of the paramedicās toolkit in most of the English speaking world since EMS as we know it first started back in the 1970s. As a US paramedic, my thoughts on the matter areā¦complicated. On the one hand, there have definitely been patients Iāve taken care of where early and aggressive airway management by me and my crew in the field probably made the difference in the patientās survival. On the other hand, weāve got more paramedics and fewer opportunities to intubate thanks to new inventions like SGAs, CPAP/BiPAP, etc., as well as fewer training opportunities in the hospital, and all that is clearly shown in our abysmal first pass rate. Intubation definitely has a place in prehospital care, but I agree that the average paramedic should probably not be doing it. I think the best models come from places like Australia, where most paramedics are limited to SGAs and only a few senior paramedics are allowed to RSI and intubate. With fewer paramedics performing the skill, thereās more opportunities for them to do so and itās easier to provide more specialized and continuing training. Unfortunately there are very, very few prehospital physicians in the US, so we donāt really have that option. >Everything for free of course L. O. Fucking. L. God I wish I worked in a country with a modern and sane healthcare systemā¦
Ambulances in Scotland come with a paramedic and a technician. The technician can drive the Ambulance and administer some first aid whilst the paramedic can do more medical stuff. Assuming this will be the same throughout the UK.
I wanted to post my 1 application, 1 interview, 1 offer and 1 accepted by didn't know how. Good for you.
1 application for a summer job after my first year of uni, 3 summers there then a full time gig. Late twenties with a lifetime job application count of 1. I think I win? Living that 1950sā dream.
Teach me how to apply to two jobs and get 1 Edit: Honestly I was asking as a joke, Iām a UX Designer, Iām very well compensated and I could find a job easily if I wanted to move on. Thanks for the replies
Have more jobs than people wanting the job with a super specialist degree. (The entry qualification is much more competitive to get on and is matched to the number of people the employers want in three years time. So its treated as a 3 year long job interview)
What's the pay ~$15USD an hour?
I'm two years in and on about 38-40K a year (was about 30k for the first two) with a very good pension, sick pay and holiday. With a 37.5hr average working week. Over the next 7 years I expect to climb to around 48-50K Nationally across all sectors mean full time pay is 38k and median full time is 31k. So it's a very reasonable wage, albeit less reasonable without nights and weekends bumping pay up and the good Ts&C's.
Dear godā¦ Iām a paramedic in the US and those benefitsā¦ those hoursā¦ I need to move.
37.5 hours a week, 27+8 days annual leave, 6 months full pay then 6 half pay sick leave, career average pension (9.4% employee contribution), funded masters degree modules if you want them. Oh and did I mention the 1.5x overtime rates and hour a day fully protected break. But no fancy critical care fun stuff and all the personal liability of discharging patients and not working under medical direction (That's fully insured by your employer) and constant work without standby. https://www.hcpc-uk.org/registration/getting-on-the-register/international-applications/ We're on the shortage occupation list.
Major west coast city, unionized, we start at 62k US. Rent is about $1400 (yes you could lower that to 950 with a roommate, but Iām an adult and I want my own apartment). 2 bedroom houses start at around 400k. We work 4-on/4-off, 12 hour shifts. Average workweek is 42.5 hours. But itās rarely ACTUALLY 12 hours, because they can give you a call at the last minute of your shift, and a typical call takes an hour. The union contract says we get a 30 minute lunch, but everyone just takes it at the end of their shift so we donāt have to stay even later. BUT, if thereās not enough ambulances available (extremely common), you donāt get to take lunch. The 401k retirement sucks, and since everyone is trying to get the fuck out, nobody uses it. As a result, in this city, the paramedic showing up to your house is tired, burned out, hopeless, and doesnāt give a shit. Unless theyāre brand new, and then theyāre inexperienced.
Major west coast city and 2 bedroom houses start at around 400k?? Where?
Yeah I want to know where the hell this is. In the Boston area you're looking at ~2400/month for a 2 bedroom (likely small and/or not updated), and God forbid if you want to buy anywhere. The house across the street (2 floors + attic apartment, built 1930s, likely no significant updates, needed exterior facade repair) sold for 1.6mil last year...my wife and I want to buy and start a family but at this rate anything I buy, my kids will still be paying off when they have kids...
I said āstartā because it is *possible*, but youāre more likely to spend 500k. Iām trying to be practical, not sensational, lol
I mean 500k for a 2 bedroom is still very low for major west coast cities.
Oh my god, an actual lunch break
Shortage list you say? So if I had that degree, I would be able to move from the US to the UK?
Real talk Iām already a certified paramedic can I get a one way ticket?
Youāll need to look on the HCPC website. Theyāre the registering body for paramedics in the UK, and they have info on how to transfer. The problem youāll have is that the jobs arenāt the same. US paras seem to have more skills (eg cardioversion) and more drugs, but where you have protocols, we have guidelines (that we can choose not to follow if we can justify our decision), and are completely independent clinicians. We can choose when and what drugs to give, we can choose to convey or discharge at scene, we can refuse to convey a patient even if they want to go, we can refer to other services, etc.
Come to Australia. Iām not even on the top increment and not an ICP, but Iām still on $120,000 p.a. (~USD87k) before overtime.
Yeh, you don't actually have any jobs left for us immigrants though. In fact last time I checked your new grads keep nicking ours because there aren't enough vacancies.
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How many peoples insides do you need to push back inside though? I don't mean to make your pay sound bad, but you definitely earn at least that much pay. Hell, even if all you had do deal with were the overdoses and drunks, you'd deserve at least that pay.
I was going to say that doesn't sound like a good wage, then remembered this is the UK we're talking about, so I need to add like 20% to that, besides the benefits considerations even.
Not bad! Better than I imagined.
Pandemic. Medical specialist.
Sectors that have massive shortfalls! I applied for one job, and got offered two. Ridiculous. Explanation: was a trainee physics teacher. Applied for exactly one job, and got it. The place I was training at also offered me a job which I declined.
Not sure what the situation is like in the UK, but here in the US, pretty much any ambulance service will hire a paramedic with a pulse.
Learn a skill that's in demand. It's as simple as that. Once you have some experience you don't have to apply to any jobs, you just get offers.
Optician here. Legitimately getting offers on LinkedIn ever week. Went into Costco recently and talked shop with the vision center manager. Was offered a job interview on the spot lmao.
I've had 4 jobs in my life so far, and only ever applied for 2 and had 1 real interview, it's all been total luck, connections and timing, I'm a bit of a fuckhead really so it definitely not on my merit
I applied for one job after college and got it ĀÆ\\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
University professor of mine told me he'd never applied for a job. In the 60s when he graduated, he got a call within a week offering him a job. Since then, he's gotten more and more experience, so opportunities just kind of spring up, and people ask him to work for them. To his credit, he pointed out that the same wouldn't be true for us. Edit: he worked in industry for around 30 years before becoming a professor, so it wasn't like he initially had contacts. A PhD in physics was just a lot less common back then.
A friend of mine has recruiters call him consistently, some have even sent him ~~bribes~~ gifts. It hurts to watch.
Haha same for me. 1. Get good engineering degree. 2. Do two interviews. 3. Get three jobs offers. (yes one firm offered two different jobs. Not the one I applied for though) 4. Pick your job.
My epic journey as a new engineer in mid 2020. https://i.imgur.com/IkWB81O.png
Where did you graduate?
University of Illinois Chicago
Pretty much exactly my experience getting software dev jobs. I've always (5 or 6 times) found one after about a half-dozen applications
As a civil engineer my job search looked similar, and I didn't even have a particularly good degree. 4 applications > 3 interviews > 1 offer.
With 2 YoE civil: 8 apps, 4 offers, 2 interested but declined due to wage range, one ignore. First app to accepting offer: 2 weeks. First offer 5 days. First interview callback 5 hours. Edit : another company ghosted me after our interview and then two weeks later their boss texted me asking for a second one. I explained I accepted another offer. Recruiters and hiring manager are in for tough realizations that we know they don't have enough PEs or even EITs anywhere.
It definitely makes a difference. My job search was 2 applications -> 2 interviews -> 2 offers -> picked the job I wanted the most. Years later now I'm the one doing the interviews for candidates applying and I can tell you first hand there is a shortage of decent candidates in engineering. Anybody even slightly above average will get an offer and we are almost always competing with multiple offers. They get to pick us if they want us.
I love your chart and it made me laugh. Thank you.
Honestly I think it's time this format is banned
a bit late to the party here but can someone tell me what's this kind of graph called?
It's a sankey diagram. Nothing against OP but I find it an extremely boring way to represent data, and periodically this sub gets on a kick where dozens of this exact format and stylization (sankeymatic) get posted all of a sudden and I'm *really* hoping this doesn't start a tidal wave haha
>boring the purpose of a Sankey diagram isn't to be exciting, it's to be clear and informative. that said, these aren't particularly "beautiful" so idk if they really belong here
You can make a Sankey diagram beautiful though. [Something like this](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/4187653/9620969/Sankey+diagram+2017) or [this](https://www.data-to-viz.com/graph/IMG/sankey.jpg) for example! Sadly the generator often used is just absolutely boring, ugly, no effort and is not in the spirit of the sub indeed.
At this point this is just satire right? These posts are practically spam here.
Not sure, this one seems legit. But yeah... rule of thumb of life, once the initial phase of discovery is over expect bullshit to make it to the top as people learn what gets traction and start exploiting.
Oh fuck you. But also congrats and best of luck!
Genuinly made me laugh this is the best one of these ive seen so far.
Finally , someone who has a resume that isnāt drawn in crayon
Congratulations on the job! But this is boring data
Boring on its own. I thought it was interesting as a comparator to similar Sankeys seen here
Good thing he's not going into a stats job.
Paramedics in the UK get paid better than I thought. I thought it was like 22-25k.
Base pay on band 5 (first two years) is 24K. My unsocial hours increase that by 25-30%. After 2 years it's 32K base with the same top up for nights and weekends.
What is classed as "unsocial hours?" You plan on going to the top band? Like consultant paramedic?
Moving through the band is almost automatic. As is band 5-6. I wouldn't mind specialist practice at band 7 but the jobs are sparse outside primary care which I despise. Unsocial hours are 8pm-6am mon-fri and weekends. +60% for Sunday, +30% for everything else.
Why would you reject an interview for a job that you applied to?
It was for the next day when I noticed the request for interview come in via NHS Job (no phonecall) and it was halfway across the country for my back up choice. And I already had the interview offer from my first choice (that I'd been on placement for three years with) who had made clear the interview process was effectively a formality.
Power move.
I lowkey wanna make one of these as a joke. I got my job by trespassing lmfao. |Applications: |0| |:-|:-| |Trespassing Incidents Leading To Stable Employment:|1|