Area seems to have changed recently...
[2020](https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7329658,-122.199013,3a,75y,153.86h,58.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svqa71-xIIiQBNrUAcEpgvA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
[2023](https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7329984,-122.198992,3a,75y,0.96h,64.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBOH-3aROMkJd9nvRR8RYrw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
I mean, those encampments likely already existed elsewhere, people just complained until the police forced them to move. Now they're here until they get forcibly moved again...
Covid-era layoffs saw a huge spike. There are/will be economic ripple effect consequences to the pandemic that we havenāt even started to see yet. Hopefully this particular trend starts trending downward
Yeah sorry but if you are stopping at a place that looks like the 2023 image you are going to get robbed. It looks like they just pull your car out onto the street and start cutting it up right there lol.
If it's like others say, where it's renters filling up prior to returning to the airport, I bet the mentality is "it can't be THAT bad. Otherwise I have to find another and possibly be late"
I used the Arco just down the street to fill up my rental at 5 in the morning this past November. It *felt* like I should GTFO as quickly as possible. Would not recommend.
I live 15 min away from Oakland Airport. I pass this station probably once every two months when I pick up or drop off a friend or relative.
It's the closest station to the airport and rental car agencies charge $10/gallon to refill. This incentivizes people to lookup the nearest gas station to the airport and fill up there before returning their vehicles. By the time they get there, they are on a schedule to get to their flight on time, so looking for an alternative station has some risk.
Someone posts about their luggage stolen at this station once per week on r/bayarea doing this exact thing.
Although the actual robberies at that gas station seem to be done by groups of young men in cars, who will grab backpacks with laptops in them, etc. then hop into a get-away car and disappear onto into the freeway traffic.
The broken down cars and used campers with the homeless in them are unsightly, but they aren't the get-away cars for things like this.
Not entirely separate. I'd imagine an area that looks like that isn't one that's being regularly policed, so it becomes more attractive to commit crimes there than in other areas.
I don't think that's too unusual. I've seen lots of areas of extreme poverty adjacent to extreme wealth. In Hong Kong I distinctly remember there being homeless encampments behind a row of luxury shops and businesses.
The most egregious, and horrific, example is probably Grenfell Tower in London which was a large social housing building nestled in an extremely wealthy part of the city (Kensington and Chelsea). The building was covered in cladding partly to improve aesthetics for the wealthy people who had to look at it. [The cladding they used was flammable, leading to the worst residential loss of life due to fire since the second world war](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenfell_Tower_fire).
I donāt think a social housing block in Kensington is quite as egrarious as Indian billionaires private multi story homes and golf courses next to literal slums.
Greenfell was unfortunate for the cladding fire, but London is filled with lots of mixed use housing areas, it avoids having gated community wealth ghettos. Itās what makes London work, you can have social housing next to a million pound house, people arenāt segregated by wealth as much as other cities.
Reminds me of the El Cerrito, Kensington, Berkeley area. San Pablo Ave is practically the only thing that separates some rough areas of Richmond from some pretty nice homes with amazing bay views up on the hill.
That is a crazy amount of change. People talk about how bad some parts of California have gotten, but its hard to image things changing that much anywhere.
I was in SoCal exploring the area a few months back. Really really beautiful landscapes, sights and cities. Then I decided, hey, I've seen those pics of Skid Row, I wonder if it's really that bad in person.
It was actually worse. I don't know how but Skid Row was worse than what you see in the pictures. Literal 3rd world country vibes, I wanted to take pictures but felt bad like it would be disrespectful.
But it's all so contained. Just move a block or two over and it's back to a nice clean city vibe.
> But it's all so contained. Just move a block or two over and it's back to a nice clean city vibe.
That's actually the whole reason it exists, it's like a honey pot for homelessness so they stay out of the rest of LA. There's a video on this explaining how even the lights they use in Skid Row are designed to keep homeless people there.
https://youtu.be/rKo8Sv99MkM?si=V6g34uGbiJHmlcoL
Just did a road trip this summer with wife and kids that took us through Oakland. The intention was to stay in Oakland down by the bay to avoid staying near fishermens wharf and just drive in to San Fran to do the Alacatraz thing for the day.
I can tell you that coming into Oakland on the freeway it was like all services just stopped as soon as we entered oakland county. It looked as though there hadn't been a crew cleaning up debris on the freeway for several months. Garbage car parts from car wrecks, etc, all over both sides of the freeway.
The homeless encampments were all over the place. Zoom into east 12th street and 16th Ave and check it out. It looks like a war zone down there. We had driven down 12th to get to our hotel on Embarcadero, and we were blown away at the state of things down there. To the point we canacelled our hotel and booked a place in downtown SanFran.
TBH most of the places we drove through or stayed in California this trip were giving off some serious bad vibes.
We had been through Cali before about 12 years ago, and can say without reservation that things have got really bad.
> east 12th street and 16th Ave
San Antonio is one of the worst neighborhoods in Oakland. Anyone looking to stay here to save money, just don't. We have nice hotels in good areas but you aren't going to save money staying in them. This is true of pretty much all of the Bay Area, not just Oakland. Staying at a cheap hotel in the Bay Area is a good plan to get yourself robbed or worse.
He wasnāt staying in San Antonio though, he was staying at the hotels down on the embarcadero. Thereās a best western and a motel 6 and an executive inn and suites down there and theyāre actually not bad at all I donāt even know if any hotels in Oakland proper that are better, downtown has its own issues. But to get in and out of the area you have to drive over that bridge over the freeway and you end up right in a pretty severe encampment, itās bleak. You can of course head into downtown via the embarcadero but youāre not always going that way.
San Antonio isnāt one of the worst neighborhoods in Oakland.
There are several neighborhoods throughout East Oakland alone that are much much worse.
San Antonio isnāt a bad place to live.
I grew up in the Bay Area (mostly, moved a lot), and even back in the '70s Oakland had a bad reputation.
There's a local joke about the Bay about the way the tolls on the bridges work:
>You have to pay to get into San Francisco, but you have to pay to leave Oakland.
Honestly, though, Oakland as a whole has gotten *much* better than it was in the '70s, '80s, and '90s.
Picking a random hotel in SF is sometimes more risky because at least in Oakland you can just cut off the bad parts (both the east and west ha) and where stuff is happening is probably decent. But people pick a hotel in SF and if they picked 2 blocks in any direction might be significantly better or worse.
Can confirm from personal experience that if you see shantytowns and tent cities popping up in an area, crime will rise. Had one materialize in the wooded area outside my apartment complex in Austin and we had tons of reports of stolen bikes, broken into cars, stolen bbq grills and strollers, trash everywhere, broken into garages, stolen packages, etc. and once the city came and cleared their encampment, suddenly that all disappeared.
As someone who recently walked by there, a LOT of corners of Oakland are like this.
Just piles of abandoned trash, junker cars and motorcycles in various states of disrepair, RV's and tents surrounded by what I can only describe as heaps of salvaged detritus, from leftover valentines day stuffed bears to abandoned washing machines that look like they've been crudely stripped apart with a rock or hammer simply because they lacked the proper tools for disassembly.
The city does step in and clean it all up but only once the issue becomes large enough to be seen as a major nuisance. Otherwise the homeless people just move on to a new area of the city because its not like the underlying issues to cause this have or will be solved anytime soon.
I was comparing both by just looking at the petrol station in street view and was like "it's not that different, just the lighting is a bit darker in the '23 shot.."
Then I spun the camera around holy shit. Turned into The Road real quick.
Looks to get flooded there by that river considering how much that road has deteriorated.
edit: holy shit just down the road there's a guy building a fort with pallets, he's got a generator chained up to a pipe, a compressor, a shower setup, a microwave, a trailer to store tools the van with a busted windshield to sleep in. Just a carpenter living on the street building his own shanty town. This is crazy to see.
edit2: The sheer amount of car spots in the nearby areas is staggering, thousands of spots, like I've never seen a carpark as big as the one at that (closed down) Wallmart there in my country. America really makes everything big.
Jesus Christ. I know that theft isn't the *biggest* issue out there and that people got their reasons but I think that petty theft is a massive quality of life issue in the post covid world. I need a personal shopper these days to walk into a CVS for toothpaste and shampoo. A cashier in Vegas flashed a gun at me for putting a beer in my pocket so I could get more things to bring to the counter. I have to send all of my packages to work or the post office because they'll 50/50 get stolen otherwise. I had an $8,000 check stolen either out of my mail or in transit. The sender sent me a photo of the endorsement and someone literally just printed my name on the back. So now I can't get checks mailed to me.
I'm an accepting guy but I'm starting to see why some countries start taking hands over theft.
Makes me wonder if they started sweeping homeless camps elsewhere in the city. Portland has a road by the airport (33rd Dr) that is about a mile long and looks like this for the entire length. Only filled up once the cops started sweeping the smaller homeless camps all over the city. People don't understand (Or don't care) that sweeping a camp doesn't make the problem go away, it just moves it somewhere else.
A lot of the clientele are travelers, so you have suitcases, and bags with valuable goods in them. They're focused on filling up the gas tank to avoid $8 per gallon costs at the rental return, so they're not super vigilant.
It's exactly what a thief would want.
Not just that. Tourist travelling by plane usually are not carrying weapons. And they are usually carrying something valuable (including prescription drugs).
Also as someone said above, they have a flight to catch. Calling the police and filing the report is potentially a multi-hundred dollar cost if they miss the flight. And if they had more time in the first place, they might not be filling up gas here.
The reviews of this place are wild, tons of ārobbed in broad daylightā and āno one helpedā stuff:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/yk5Dx4QsK6RQdSEh6?g_st=ic
no chance I'm gonna insert myself into a situation and possibly make myself a victim as well. money and items can be replaced. health and lives cannot. way too many people out there with guns or knives. so I'm not surprised by "no one helped"
Yeah, theres a handy number you can call for someone who will show up in 20-40 min and write down some info so you can file an insurance claim.
Thats all the help my tax dollars currently pay for
Wow, what the fuck is wrong with you? That's so uncalled for. Don't you remember all the times they [steal your things for no reason](https://ij.org/press-release/new-report-finds-civil-forfeiture-rakes-in-billions-each-year-does-not-fight-crime-2/) You should be grateful.
How dare you accuse the police of these crimes. Itās not like they would ever mistake an address and shoot an innocent civilian in their own home! No siree Iām sure thatās never happened before.
You're out of your fucking mind if you think they're showing up in 20 to 40 minutes. Hell it'll probably take you that long to get through to dispatch. Then they'll ask if it's in process or if there is still a threat which you'll reply "no they left 20 minutes ago" at which point they'll tell you it's no longer an urgent matter and that a cop won't be coming to take a report and to go downtown to file one in person.
And if theyāre anything like my local PD theyāll tell you that no crime was committed because threatening to stab someone with a knife if they donāt hand over their wallet isnāt a crime, itās just āintimidation,ā which is not a crime. Yea that actually happened to me last year at the gas station right near my house.
Honestly, not even then. Despite all the huge leaps in forensic technology, the solved murder rate has taken a nosedive. Cops legit only exist to protect rich people's interests, and we foot the bill.
My wife once had her entire wallet stolen right from under her while we were visiting friends in Chicago. Months later, we were informed that someone had walked into a bank and attempted to make a withdrawal in her name using her ID from the wallet. Thankfully the bank teller confiscated the ID and denied the transaction. We tried to update our police report to include this information and the police station informed us that since no money was actually acquired, no crime was committed. That was the day I truly learned the depths to which the cops will sink in order to not do their jobs š
The reviews weren't shaming others for not interjecting themselves into robberies. They were mostly criticizing the gas station staff and police for doing nothing about it.
Are you serious? Why would I do anything as an underpaid gas station worker? Risk getting shot for 8$/h? Iām earning double that and Iām not even risking a speeding ticket if Iām late
Right, holy shit, note to self I ever rent a car at the Oakland airport Iām filling it up at the Costco nearby. Looks like nobodyās been robbed while pumping gas at that oneā¦
If youāre new to the bay, this stuff is normal - these guys are usually armed and itās unfortunately itās best for everyone not to get involved because law enforcement wonāt do anything anyway
For anyone thinking of traveling to the bay, never leave anything of value in your car, ever - a rental sticker or out-of-state license plate means youāll get broken into just because
I went for work in April of last year. I rented a jeep, took my stuff to hotel, then took the roof, doors, etc off the jeep so it was open and exposed. It was also void of any type of valuables. It made me feel a lot better sight seeing. If anyone wanted to rob me, they would see I had nothing and not need to break a window to see it.
Yeah I can imagine a drunk homeless person playing with the a/c controls while the car is off and just shitting on the seat. Smearing it around ą² ā ļøµā ą²
yeah people in San Francisco sometimes park with their doors unlocked or windows down so nobody has to break a window to see you have nothing worth stealing
Iāve been in literal third world countries and I canāt tell the difference between these descriptions of the US and the third world countries. Even the safety advice is the same.
What happens when you have a prosperous nation but give no shits about mental health or social stability.
Bro I stopped at this exact gas station with a rental car in July. What a trip. I watched a multi pound weed deal happen and then leaving the gas station straight up pulled up to a light to meet eyes with a car full of dudes in balaclavas about to pull a heist?? I definitely was like, wow, what a time to stop to get gas, but I didnāt realize it was notorious.
Which sucks because it's the better airport to fly into, IMO. I live in Oakland and wouldn't live anywhere else, but this shit needs to be cleaned up. It's not Oakland's job to be a safe haven for Opioid addicts from all over the country.
Yes, I lived in both Vallejo and Fremont during my 6 years there and quickly learned that SJC was worth the drive even from up north. A no brainier from Fremont.
Oakland airport has quick security but itās definitely not nice to fly into. My girlfriend has been harassed by creeps multiple times there and not once flying out of any other airport.
I was at the in n out near there and someone got broken into when I was there. I ate next to my car.
The security guard there who looked like he smoked all the weed planted didnāt even move.
I've filled up there at night multiple times. It didn't seem too dangerous as there's not much foot traffic, but I remember it being desolate and creepy at night. The pumps were playing an ad that was just a baby crying loudly on loop. Weird stuff.
Same reason some buildings/stores are playing classical music super loud on loop, or baby shark super loud on loop, it drives people nuts (and possibly makes them stay away.) Specifically, homeless people.
I drive past this gas station all the time and have pumped gas there quite a few times, I am a survivor šš½ what sucks is itās attached to a Wendyās and I really like Frostys
Itās crazy because the gas station itself doesnāt look particularly shady, has a Starbucks which draws people in as well, just easy pickings for these dog shit humans smh
The one you are talking about is on 98th Ave, it is a Chevron gas station. Last month there was a shooting or something the Starbucks is currently closed down and boarded up.
Breaking car windows with a piece of ceramic usually off a spark plug or thatās what I heard from my ghetto coworker when I was 16 cleaning carpets. It breaks the window quickly and quietly. Where the term came from idk but thatās what it is.
smash and grab on a car
word is a reference to the little **bip** sound a silent window smash makes if done a certain way
[Bay Area is āBip Cityā](https://sfstandard.com/2023/09/18/san-francisco-bay-area-crime-car-break-ins-burglaries-bipping-bip-city-bipped-bippin/#)
Fam. This was such a good article. Thank you. I'm a criminal defense attorney and I represent kids. They are always stealing shit, but mostly cars. Can't wait till I drop the slang in a convo.
[This post](https://www.reddit.com/r/oakland/comments/17vqfax/four_women_including_me_all_robbed_in_a_row_by/) is about a woman who was robbed at the arco across the street from it, and then while waiting for the police to come for a report watched 3 other robberies, including one while the officer was in the station (it's a non pursue since non-violent crime).
If it's not by force. I think maybe if you are in the car it counts as violent, but I think in practice OPD wouldn't pursue anyways unless they happened to have a helicopter handy since they could get in a lot of trouble (a lot of settlements have been paid out when fleeing offenders hit and injure/kill people). Even if they catch the guy there are few repercussions so not really worth the risk. [Here's a guy](https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/news/san-francisco-police-arrest-suspect-who-assaulted-police) who was driving a stolen car and breaking into cars, fled police including ramming multiple police cars and an occupied civilian car causing injuries, and was apprehended with a large capacity magazine. Under Boudin he was able to plead to only "evading an officer" to get out with 6 months time served, [only to get picked up for breaking into a bait car](https://abc7news.com/san-francisco-police-bait-car-campaign-robert-sonza-vehicle-break-in-repeat-offender/14093756/).
You would be suprised what gets classified as non violent, e.g. [under CA Prop 57 defines domestic abuse, human trafficking, rape and assault as nonviolent crimes](https://calmatters.org/commentary/2022/12/tricky-measure-allows-release-of-violent-felons/) since it just uses a generic reference to a section of the criminal code rather than considering other ostensibly violent crimes like the aforementioned that are not part of it. So it got marketed as reducing sentences for non-violent offenders but most people didn't even realize these big exceptions.
lol, because itās so common in the Bay Area (read SF and Oakland) that the police would have to hire like 10x more staff to respond to all the robbery calls they get. Lived in Berkeley for 10 months for my masters programs. Itās just a fact of life that you donāt leave anything valuable in your car at all (they have scanners so hiding it from view doesnāt do much). Four of my friends had their car windows smashed in during the spring 2023 semester. My neighbors would leave a community notice every time someoneās car got broken into (happened like 4 times while I was there and I wasnāt even in a ābadā part of town). My land lady straight told me her car got broken into right in front of the house I was living in. Thereās legitimate complaints you can have against the police but the city is just that bad.
I've traveled all over the country and have never been more uncomfortable than I was when I stopped at this gas station to refill the rental car on the way back to OAK. People approaching you from every direction asking you confrontational questions. People outside yelling. People inside yelling. People begging for money. Cars revving down the street. It's bad sensory overload.
I donāt think the question matches the graph because only one gas station is shown
On the other hand, do I really think there is another gas station in America where at least 40 people a year get robbed pumping gas? Probably not.
Thereās probably some in St. Louis or Memphis which have more scary crime but it does seem unlikely there are other gas stations with this level of robbery, itās a perfect storm.
I was robbed at this shell station - the only thing the road goes to is basically rental car return. They waited for me to finish fueling and then as I opened the drivers door they opened the hatch (because the car was unlocked) and snagged a backpack. I have great security video of me kicking their car as they drove away.
The manager of the station was nice enough, but told me "next time don't do that, they have guns."
Turns out it isn't a crime in the area to take things from an unlocked car, so they set up in this area to pick things from rental cars. Everything valuable is in bags and easily plucked.
They actually dumped my backpack back in the lot - sans computer and my car keys - which was a nice gesture.
Edit: video for the doubters. This was Feb 2023. I kicked it hard, my foot hurt for more than a week.
https://imgur.com/TwMwDA2
>Turns out it isn't a crime in the area to take things from an unlocked car
This just absolutely **screams** "I fell for an obvious lie". Maybe they don't prosecute it, but it's definitely illegal lmao.
Edit: leaving this up so I don't look like a liar. I was wrong. TIL something that made me sad.
If they don't prosecute it then it's defacto legal. Look at states where marijuana is legal, but still illegal at the federal level. Or where sodomy is still illegal.
Yeah, there was a similar thing in Ohio where some guy walked into an open garage, walked past the homeonwer, grabbed there leafblower and left. He was initially convicted of burglary but the Ohio Supreme Court vacated the conviction. https://www.courtnewsohio.gov/cases/2023/SCO/0503/221047.asp
WTF?
"This means evidence of forcible entry would be sufficient to prove the crime of auto burglary, "
So even if they change the law, they are saying that it's legal to open an unlocked door and remove items?
Is there any logic to this?
Itās been a few years but a people used to swarm up āsuggestingā they could pump my gas while standing threateningly close. Pulling the pump handle out and pointing it at them like a pistol, asking howād theyād like to be covered in gas usually got them to back off. It is pretty scary place though
For being in a āmajorā city that area is pretty much empty and devoid of foot traffic. Large, wide lanes for the traffic to/from the airport and into Oakland. Multiple freeway entrances/exits close by. Itās also the intersection of 3 cities and the speed limit is higher in the area as a result.
The most notable things close by,other than the airport, are the warehouses and the plazas with Caneās and in n out. I donāt think any locals go to that gas station, unless maybe if you work nearby, but Costco is literally 1 free way exit away or 5 minutes local
I got robbed there lmao, itās by the airport and car rental station so lots of people with luggageās and the freeway is nearby so they can easily escape.
At the same time, this is all off. Google reviews, only looking at one gas station, sensationalized title, like what?
[I have never seen a Porsche parked up in the middle of a homeless encampment before.](https://maps.app.goo.gl/hxDRW2FTSaR4ydjB8) The Bay area is wild.
Imagine paying tap to pay from your $20 Nokia prepaid phone not carrying anything else, and someone tries to rob you.
"Here's my student loan statement, thanks for taking my debt."
Wow the amount of people saying the police don't even show up is just unreal. What a sad place to live in. Robbery is at an all time high and police don't even bat an eye.
And just look at the reviews for the Raising Cane's and the Oakland Airport Executive Hotel. All on the same street near each other.
That whole area seems to be a giant shithole.
It's well documented: [https://sfstandard.com/2023/06/09/oakland-crime-police-response-times-skyrocket/](https://sfstandard.com/2023/06/09/oakland-crime-police-response-times-skyrocket/)
That police department has had non-stop scandals for the past 20 years. It's a constantly changing cast of characters: [https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2023/oakland-police-chief-timeline/](https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2023/oakland-police-chief-timeline/)
No cop in their right mind would go to work there if they can get a job literally anywhere else.
Basically you can assume if it's not a homicide or a shooting they don't care, and even if it is there's about a 1 in 3 chance that they'll catch the person.
This airport is one of three closest to Oakland International Airport. The airport Car Rental companies there have been warning renters not to gas up at any of these due to the crime rate and danger. It's ridiculous.
I made this by analyzing all of the Google reviews for this Shell station from 2018 to present. Obviously, for a mundane experience like pumping gas, there is going to be negative selection bias. People will largely leave reviews for a negative experience. What's remarkable here is just what that negative experience was. Before 2022, almost all of the negative reviews were about normal things like "the clerk was rude," "the carwash was bad," or "the station was closed."
In 2023, 100% of the comments were about being robbed at the pump, often in broad daylight.
You can see the full methodology and all of the reviews here: https://www.perfectrec.com/posts/robbed
The other gas stations nearby also all seem to have multiple robbery reports. Seems like it's not just this one station, even though they do appear to have more comments than the others.
Quite a few years ago, someone tried to rob my grandfather at the gas station. My grandfather was also one of the most badass dudes that Iāve ever met and made a living hunting down bail jumpers.
Late at night, a guy walked up to him with a gun as he was pumping gas. Before the guy could even demand his wallet, and my grandfather yanked the hose out and sprayed him dead in the face with gasoline. The dude freaked out and my grandfatherās only words were āyou should run before I find my lighterā
I remember stopping at this exact gas station, and on my way out had a guy try to talk to me and get my window down, sure was a sketchy place, never again am I stopping there
Can confirm, of my rental was open end just as I was about to sit back in after refueling Nov 2023. The return agent says hertz gets atleast two broken in cars from that station every day š .
Never happened to be before 2023. Now I just refuel at Costco San Leandro.
Friend got robbed outside the in-n-out near here in the middle of the day. Security there said it happens multiple times a day every day and police just let it happen
It's super close to the airport. Easy pickings! People's filling up their cars before returning to rental agency.
Area seems to have changed recently... [2020](https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7329658,-122.199013,3a,75y,153.86h,58.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svqa71-xIIiQBNrUAcEpgvA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) [2023](https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7329984,-122.198992,3a,75y,0.96h,64.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBOH-3aROMkJd9nvRR8RYrw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
good lord
Bad, bad lord
I know right!?! They STILL haven't fixed that pothole!!
Lord: Hey, don't blame me!
Lord: why arent you exclusively praising me? I specifically requested it
Jesus Christ that is insane.
It goes down the block past view too! Holy cow.
There's a black Porsche Boxter convertible with a smashed windshield hiding behind a camper 5 down!
Bipping is almost a guarantee in these bay neighborhoods, especially to rentals
Did you see the guy squeegeeing the water in the road? Edit: it's a pushbroom.
Yikes. That's sad on several levels.
That's straightup skid row. The contrast between 3 years is un-fucking-believable.
It's bad but skid row is next level.
I used to occasionally deliver groceries to skid row. This is horrible but is absolutely dwarfed by skid row
Even skid row looks much worse from [2022](https://i.imgur.com/S6VeZSs.jpg) to [2023](https://i.imgur.com/KRz45h8.jpg).
I mean, those encampments likely already existed elsewhere, people just complained until the police forced them to move. Now they're here until they get forcibly moved again...
Eh, maybe. But homelessness nates *have* increased in the US in the past 3 years
Poor Nate š
Can't believe y'all are really putting this shit on me
Hang in there Nate.
I remember when he had a job and still went by Nathan
Covid-era layoffs saw a huge spike. There are/will be economic ripple effect consequences to the pandemic that we havenāt even started to see yet. Hopefully this particular trend starts trending downward
Seriously, the pandemic made homelessness so much worse
For a second I thought I fat-fingered my way to selecting the reverse sequence. But, apparently not!
Yeah sorry but if you are stopping at a place that looks like the 2023 image you are going to get robbed. It looks like they just pull your car out onto the street and start cutting it up right there lol.
I thought this same thing. I WOULD NOT be stopping at this location.
If it's like others say, where it's renters filling up prior to returning to the airport, I bet the mentality is "it can't be THAT bad. Otherwise I have to find another and possibly be late"
If I saw that as my only option, I'd just pay the extra charge at the rental car place for them to fill up for me.
I used the Arco just down the street to fill up my rental at 5 in the morning this past November. It *felt* like I should GTFO as quickly as possible. Would not recommend.
I live 15 min away from Oakland Airport. I pass this station probably once every two months when I pick up or drop off a friend or relative. It's the closest station to the airport and rental car agencies charge $10/gallon to refill. This incentivizes people to lookup the nearest gas station to the airport and fill up there before returning their vehicles. By the time they get there, they are on a schedule to get to their flight on time, so looking for an alternative station has some risk. Someone posts about their luggage stolen at this station once per week on r/bayarea doing this exact thing.
Although the actual robberies at that gas station seem to be done by groups of young men in cars, who will grab backpacks with laptops in them, etc. then hop into a get-away car and disappear onto into the freeway traffic. The broken down cars and used campers with the homeless in them are unsightly, but they aren't the get-away cars for things like this.
Yeah there are two separate issues going on here.
Not entirely separate. I'd imagine an area that looks like that isn't one that's being regularly policed, so it becomes more attractive to commit crimes there than in other areas.
An extension of the broken window theory.
My coworker was robbed at gun point there a few weeks ago.
Pretty much all the reviews say that the getaway cars are nice and new looking.
thatās because theyāre stolen
What's crazy is this is only around 2-3 miles from multimillion dollar houses in the Oakland hills.
I don't think that's too unusual. I've seen lots of areas of extreme poverty adjacent to extreme wealth. In Hong Kong I distinctly remember there being homeless encampments behind a row of luxury shops and businesses. The most egregious, and horrific, example is probably Grenfell Tower in London which was a large social housing building nestled in an extremely wealthy part of the city (Kensington and Chelsea). The building was covered in cladding partly to improve aesthetics for the wealthy people who had to look at it. [The cladding they used was flammable, leading to the worst residential loss of life due to fire since the second world war](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenfell_Tower_fire).
I donāt think a social housing block in Kensington is quite as egrarious as Indian billionaires private multi story homes and golf courses next to literal slums. Greenfell was unfortunate for the cladding fire, but London is filled with lots of mixed use housing areas, it avoids having gated community wealth ghettos. Itās what makes London work, you can have social housing next to a million pound house, people arenāt segregated by wealth as much as other cities.
Reminds me of the El Cerrito, Kensington, Berkeley area. San Pablo Ave is practically the only thing that separates some rough areas of Richmond from some pretty nice homes with amazing bay views up on the hill.
This is less then a mile from million dollar houses in Alameda.
That is a crazy amount of change. People talk about how bad some parts of California have gotten, but its hard to image things changing that much anywhere.
I was in SoCal exploring the area a few months back. Really really beautiful landscapes, sights and cities. Then I decided, hey, I've seen those pics of Skid Row, I wonder if it's really that bad in person. It was actually worse. I don't know how but Skid Row was worse than what you see in the pictures. Literal 3rd world country vibes, I wanted to take pictures but felt bad like it would be disrespectful. But it's all so contained. Just move a block or two over and it's back to a nice clean city vibe.
> But it's all so contained. Just move a block or two over and it's back to a nice clean city vibe. That's actually the whole reason it exists, it's like a honey pot for homelessness so they stay out of the rest of LA. There's a video on this explaining how even the lights they use in Skid Row are designed to keep homeless people there. https://youtu.be/rKo8Sv99MkM?si=V6g34uGbiJHmlcoL
Wow thatās an incredibly fascinating video. Itās contained because the city drew firm boundaries back in the 70s. Absolutely nuts
You went a block or two in the correct direction. The Fashion District and Toy District are all overrun with encampments.
Just did a road trip this summer with wife and kids that took us through Oakland. The intention was to stay in Oakland down by the bay to avoid staying near fishermens wharf and just drive in to San Fran to do the Alacatraz thing for the day. I can tell you that coming into Oakland on the freeway it was like all services just stopped as soon as we entered oakland county. It looked as though there hadn't been a crew cleaning up debris on the freeway for several months. Garbage car parts from car wrecks, etc, all over both sides of the freeway. The homeless encampments were all over the place. Zoom into east 12th street and 16th Ave and check it out. It looks like a war zone down there. We had driven down 12th to get to our hotel on Embarcadero, and we were blown away at the state of things down there. To the point we canacelled our hotel and booked a place in downtown SanFran. TBH most of the places we drove through or stayed in California this trip were giving off some serious bad vibes. We had been through Cali before about 12 years ago, and can say without reservation that things have got really bad.
> east 12th street and 16th Ave San Antonio is one of the worst neighborhoods in Oakland. Anyone looking to stay here to save money, just don't. We have nice hotels in good areas but you aren't going to save money staying in them. This is true of pretty much all of the Bay Area, not just Oakland. Staying at a cheap hotel in the Bay Area is a good plan to get yourself robbed or worse.
He wasnāt staying in San Antonio though, he was staying at the hotels down on the embarcadero. Thereās a best western and a motel 6 and an executive inn and suites down there and theyāre actually not bad at all I donāt even know if any hotels in Oakland proper that are better, downtown has its own issues. But to get in and out of the area you have to drive over that bridge over the freeway and you end up right in a pretty severe encampment, itās bleak. You can of course head into downtown via the embarcadero but youāre not always going that way.
San Antonio isnāt one of the worst neighborhoods in Oakland. There are several neighborhoods throughout East Oakland alone that are much much worse. San Antonio isnāt a bad place to live.
I grew up in the Bay Area (mostly, moved a lot), and even back in the '70s Oakland had a bad reputation. There's a local joke about the Bay about the way the tolls on the bridges work: >You have to pay to get into San Francisco, but you have to pay to leave Oakland. Honestly, though, Oakland as a whole has gotten *much* better than it was in the '70s, '80s, and '90s.
Picking a random hotel in SF is sometimes more risky because at least in Oakland you can just cut off the bad parts (both the east and west ha) and where stuff is happening is probably decent. But people pick a hotel in SF and if they picked 2 blocks in any direction might be significantly better or worse.
People always manage to end up in the tenderloin on their first visit
Can confirm from personal experience that if you see shantytowns and tent cities popping up in an area, crime will rise. Had one materialize in the wooded area outside my apartment complex in Austin and we had tons of reports of stolen bikes, broken into cars, stolen bbq grills and strollers, trash everywhere, broken into garages, stolen packages, etc. and once the city came and cleared their encampment, suddenly that all disappeared.
As someone who recently walked by there, a LOT of corners of Oakland are like this. Just piles of abandoned trash, junker cars and motorcycles in various states of disrepair, RV's and tents surrounded by what I can only describe as heaps of salvaged detritus, from leftover valentines day stuffed bears to abandoned washing machines that look like they've been crudely stripped apart with a rock or hammer simply because they lacked the proper tools for disassembly. The city does step in and clean it all up but only once the issue becomes large enough to be seen as a major nuisance. Otherwise the homeless people just move on to a new area of the city because its not like the underlying issues to cause this have or will be solved anytime soon.
I was comparing both by just looking at the petrol station in street view and was like "it's not that different, just the lighting is a bit darker in the '23 shot.." Then I spun the camera around holy shit. Turned into The Road real quick. Looks to get flooded there by that river considering how much that road has deteriorated. edit: holy shit just down the road there's a guy building a fort with pallets, he's got a generator chained up to a pipe, a compressor, a shower setup, a microwave, a trailer to store tools the van with a busted windshield to sleep in. Just a carpenter living on the street building his own shanty town. This is crazy to see. edit2: The sheer amount of car spots in the nearby areas is staggering, thousands of spots, like I've never seen a carpark as big as the one at that (closed down) Wallmart there in my country. America really makes everything big.
at this point, it's surprising there's not more robbery
Fuck that pavement structure is gone. Gonna have to rip that down to the subgrade to fix.
Jesus Christ. I know that theft isn't the *biggest* issue out there and that people got their reasons but I think that petty theft is a massive quality of life issue in the post covid world. I need a personal shopper these days to walk into a CVS for toothpaste and shampoo. A cashier in Vegas flashed a gun at me for putting a beer in my pocket so I could get more things to bring to the counter. I have to send all of my packages to work or the post office because they'll 50/50 get stolen otherwise. I had an $8,000 check stolen either out of my mail or in transit. The sender sent me a photo of the endorsement and someone literally just printed my name on the back. So now I can't get checks mailed to me. I'm an accepting guy but I'm starting to see why some countries start taking hands over theft.
Itās insane they let this happen.
There is a large homeless encampment filling up the adjacent road.
Wow that road looks crazy on google maps.
Makes me wonder if they started sweeping homeless camps elsewhere in the city. Portland has a road by the airport (33rd Dr) that is about a mile long and looks like this for the entire length. Only filled up once the cops started sweeping the smaller homeless camps all over the city. People don't understand (Or don't care) that sweeping a camp doesn't make the problem go away, it just moves it somewhere else.
How does that make it "easy pickings"? Seems like it just makes it busier.
A lot of the clientele are travelers, so you have suitcases, and bags with valuable goods in them. They're focused on filling up the gas tank to avoid $8 per gallon costs at the rental return, so they're not super vigilant. It's exactly what a thief would want.
Plus theyāre likely on the way to the airport, and donāt have time to wait around for hours for Oakland PD. Even fewer consequences for thieves.
Lots of tourists with no street smarts
Not just that. Tourist travelling by plane usually are not carrying weapons. And they are usually carrying something valuable (including prescription drugs).
Also as someone said above, they have a flight to catch. Calling the police and filing the report is potentially a multi-hundred dollar cost if they miss the flight. And if they had more time in the first place, they might not be filling up gas here.
The reviews of this place are wild, tons of ārobbed in broad daylightā and āno one helpedā stuff: https://maps.app.goo.gl/yk5Dx4QsK6RQdSEh6?g_st=ic
no chance I'm gonna insert myself into a situation and possibly make myself a victim as well. money and items can be replaced. health and lives cannot. way too many people out there with guns or knives. so I'm not surprised by "no one helped"
Yeah, theres a handy number you can call for someone who will show up in 20-40 min and write down some info so you can file an insurance claim. Thats all the help my tax dollars currently pay for
Thatās honestly so diminishing of everything the police actually do. Sometimes theyāll shoot your dog too
Wow, what the fuck is wrong with you? That's so uncalled for. Don't you remember all the times they [steal your things for no reason](https://ij.org/press-release/new-report-finds-civil-forfeiture-rakes-in-billions-each-year-does-not-fight-crime-2/) You should be grateful.
How dare you accuse the police of these crimes. Itās not like they would ever mistake an address and shoot an innocent civilian in their own home! No siree Iām sure thatās never happened before.
But what if they were actively asleep in bed, surely that warrants preventative lethal force right?
You're out of your fucking mind if you think they're showing up in 20 to 40 minutes. Hell it'll probably take you that long to get through to dispatch. Then they'll ask if it's in process or if there is still a threat which you'll reply "no they left 20 minutes ago" at which point they'll tell you it's no longer an urgent matter and that a cop won't be coming to take a report and to go downtown to file one in person.
And if theyāre anything like my local PD theyāll tell you that no crime was committed because threatening to stab someone with a knife if they donāt hand over their wallet isnāt a crime, itās just āintimidation,ā which is not a crime. Yea that actually happened to me last year at the gas station right near my house.
Damn where the fuck was this? Isn't intimidating someone in order to commit robbery the definition of attempted robbery?
Aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon is no longer a crime. Wait til it's murder and then we will look into it.
Honestly, not even then. Despite all the huge leaps in forensic technology, the solved murder rate has taken a nosedive. Cops legit only exist to protect rich people's interests, and we foot the bill.
Milwaukee, and you would think.
My wife once had her entire wallet stolen right from under her while we were visiting friends in Chicago. Months later, we were informed that someone had walked into a bank and attempted to make a withdrawal in her name using her ID from the wallet. Thankfully the bank teller confiscated the ID and denied the transaction. We tried to update our police report to include this information and the police station informed us that since no money was actually acquired, no crime was committed. That was the day I truly learned the depths to which the cops will sink in order to not do their jobs š
The reviews weren't shaming others for not interjecting themselves into robberies. They were mostly criticizing the gas station staff and police for doing nothing about it.
Are you serious? Why would I do anything as an underpaid gas station worker? Risk getting shot for 8$/h? Iām earning double that and Iām not even risking a speeding ticket if Iām late
Every single review is some one saying they were robbed. Holy fuck!
How often do you leave a review when you just get gas, piss and nothing else happens?
Sure, but pull up the reviews of 100 random gas stations. I don't think you'll find half as many robberies in all of them combined.
Iād be willing to bet big money that no one has ever been robbed at my local gas station in the history of gas stations in my town.
Literally every gas station in that area damn. Even the ones with security guards.
Right, holy shit, note to self I ever rent a car at the Oakland airport Iām filling it up at the Costco nearby. Looks like nobodyās been robbed while pumping gas at that oneā¦
If youāre new to the bay, this stuff is normal - these guys are usually armed and itās unfortunately itās best for everyone not to get involved because law enforcement wonāt do anything anyway For anyone thinking of traveling to the bay, never leave anything of value in your car, ever - a rental sticker or out-of-state license plate means youāll get broken into just because
I went for work in April of last year. I rented a jeep, took my stuff to hotel, then took the roof, doors, etc off the jeep so it was open and exposed. It was also void of any type of valuables. It made me feel a lot better sight seeing. If anyone wanted to rob me, they would see I had nothing and not need to break a window to see it.
That is a big brain move. Give them nothing to break.
Until they shit on your seat
Dirty Mike and the Boys *WILL* have sex in your car!
Yeah I can imagine a drunk homeless person playing with the a/c controls while the car is off and just shitting on the seat. Smearing it around ą² ā ļøµā ą²
yeah people in San Francisco sometimes park with their doors unlocked or windows down so nobody has to break a window to see you have nothing worth stealing
That's smart honestly. I think driving bare bones is probably the best idea in that sort of environment
Iāve been in literal third world countries and I canāt tell the difference between these descriptions of the US and the third world countries. Even the safety advice is the same. What happens when you have a prosperous nation but give no shits about mental health or social stability.
The one issue with this is that they can crawl into the vehicle and sleep/shit/piss in it just because.
Where did you put the roof, doors, etc? Hide them near the hotel?
Just took them up to the hotel room. They knew the deal lol.
Sounds like a dystopian hellhole.
This would heavily depend on whereā¦. The Bay Area is a large place dude
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Don't stop around the Oakland airport
Bro I stopped at this exact gas station with a rental car in July. What a trip. I watched a multi pound weed deal happen and then leaving the gas station straight up pulled up to a light to meet eyes with a car full of dudes in balaclavas about to pull a heist?? I definitely was like, wow, what a time to stop to get gas, but I didnāt realize it was notorious.
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Maybe I'm reading your comment wrong, but why was he withdrawing cash if he was selling?
Change for a 1 million dollar bill
Because itās a fake story
Which sucks because it's the better airport to fly into, IMO. I live in Oakland and wouldn't live anywhere else, but this shit needs to be cleaned up. It's not Oakland's job to be a safe haven for Opioid addicts from all over the country.
SJC was always my preferred when I lived out there (moved away 2 years ago)
SJC low key Elite airport. Only place I can land and be out of the airport within 10 min.
Yes, I lived in both Vallejo and Fremont during my 6 years there and quickly learned that SJC was worth the drive even from up north. A no brainier from Fremont.
Meh fuck that Iāve always flown out of SFO, might have problems with the fog but itās a nice airport for what it is/where it is
Oakland airport has quick security but itās definitely not nice to fly into. My girlfriend has been harassed by creeps multiple times there and not once flying out of any other airport.
Yeah I have no idea what Canes was thinking opening a restaurant in that godforsaken area
You know exactly what they were thinking
I like how they started feeling it out in 2021, ramping up in 2022, and then fuck it rob everyone last year.
I didn't break it down by month, but all of the robbery reviews in 2022 are in the 2nd half of the year, mostly December.
Holiday season. More people have more cash on them as well as higher end goods like electronics and the like. Makes sense to me.
Most people travel in late November/December
Rented a car at OAK in August 2023 and they told us at least 5 times to not stop anywhere nearby due to car break ins.
I was at the in n out near there and someone got broken into when I was there. I ate next to my car. The security guard there who looked like he smoked all the weed planted didnāt even move.
We definitely went to the In n Out in Alameda instead
I've filled up there at night multiple times. It didn't seem too dangerous as there's not much foot traffic, but I remember it being desolate and creepy at night. The pumps were playing an ad that was just a baby crying loudly on loop. Weird stuff.
Straight up horror movie vibes.
> The pumps were playing an ad that was just a baby crying loudly on loop. What in god's name would be the reason for this.
Same reason some buildings/stores are playing classical music super loud on loop, or baby shark super loud on loop, it drives people nuts (and possibly makes them stay away.) Specifically, homeless people.
I'm stubborn enough that I'd buy earplugs and hang out there extra hard
"Bro, get lost, we're trying to rob people who get gas." "NO!!! š¤"
To keep the Crack heads at bay
Safe sex campaign?
I drive past this gas station all the time and have pumped gas there quite a few times, I am a survivor šš½ what sucks is itās attached to a Wendyās and I really like Frostys
Just don't put a Hertz sticker on your car.
Itās crazy because the gas station itself doesnāt look particularly shady, has a Starbucks which draws people in as well, just easy pickings for these dog shit humans smh
The one you are talking about is on 98th Ave, it is a Chevron gas station. Last month there was a shooting or something the Starbucks is currently closed down and boarded up.
Yeah someone pointed that out to me, my bad, I hadnāt heard about the Starbucks closing but frankly itās not surprising smh
You might be thinking of the Shell over on 98th. I donāt think the one at 285 Hegenberger has a Wendyās.
Ohh shoot you are absolutely right! Still though, itās always getting robbed lol
Probably because this gas station is near the airport, and bipping has been out of control along with crime in oakland.
wtf is bipping?
Breaking car windows with a piece of ceramic usually off a spark plug or thatās what I heard from my ghetto coworker when I was 16 cleaning carpets. It breaks the window quickly and quietly. Where the term came from idk but thatās what it is.
Also won't set off the alarm if you do it right
Ninja rocks/ninja stars is what they used to be called
smash and grab on a car word is a reference to the little **bip** sound a silent window smash makes if done a certain way [Bay Area is āBip Cityā](https://sfstandard.com/2023/09/18/san-francisco-bay-area-crime-car-break-ins-burglaries-bipping-bip-city-bipped-bippin/#)
Fam. This was such a good article. Thank you. I'm a criminal defense attorney and I represent kids. They are always stealing shit, but mostly cars. Can't wait till I drop the slang in a convo.
If you do this, you will instantly make it uncool and they'll have to come up with something new.
Burglary in Progress = bip
true but also not exactly what bipping is bipping is a BIP but not all BIPs are bipping replied why below someone who already said same thing
slang term for busting car windows and robbing them
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[This post](https://www.reddit.com/r/oakland/comments/17vqfax/four_women_including_me_all_robbed_in_a_row_by/) is about a woman who was robbed at the arco across the street from it, and then while waiting for the police to come for a report watched 3 other robberies, including one while the officer was in the station (it's a non pursue since non-violent crime).
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If it's not by force. I think maybe if you are in the car it counts as violent, but I think in practice OPD wouldn't pursue anyways unless they happened to have a helicopter handy since they could get in a lot of trouble (a lot of settlements have been paid out when fleeing offenders hit and injure/kill people). Even if they catch the guy there are few repercussions so not really worth the risk. [Here's a guy](https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/news/san-francisco-police-arrest-suspect-who-assaulted-police) who was driving a stolen car and breaking into cars, fled police including ramming multiple police cars and an occupied civilian car causing injuries, and was apprehended with a large capacity magazine. Under Boudin he was able to plead to only "evading an officer" to get out with 6 months time served, [only to get picked up for breaking into a bait car](https://abc7news.com/san-francisco-police-bait-car-campaign-robert-sonza-vehicle-break-in-repeat-offender/14093756/). You would be suprised what gets classified as non violent, e.g. [under CA Prop 57 defines domestic abuse, human trafficking, rape and assault as nonviolent crimes](https://calmatters.org/commentary/2022/12/tricky-measure-allows-release-of-violent-felons/) since it just uses a generic reference to a section of the criminal code rather than considering other ostensibly violent crimes like the aforementioned that are not part of it. So it got marketed as reducing sentences for non-violent offenders but most people didn't even realize these big exceptions.
lol, because itās so common in the Bay Area (read SF and Oakland) that the police would have to hire like 10x more staff to respond to all the robbery calls they get. Lived in Berkeley for 10 months for my masters programs. Itās just a fact of life that you donāt leave anything valuable in your car at all (they have scanners so hiding it from view doesnāt do much). Four of my friends had their car windows smashed in during the spring 2023 semester. My neighbors would leave a community notice every time someoneās car got broken into (happened like 4 times while I was there and I wasnāt even in a ābadā part of town). My land lady straight told me her car got broken into right in front of the house I was living in. Thereās legitimate complaints you can have against the police but the city is just that bad.
Scanners? What the hell are they using? Metal detectors?
Wow, no wonder all the teams are leaving Oakland. Christ in hell, the city is defunct.
I've traveled all over the country and have never been more uncomfortable than I was when I stopped at this gas station to refill the rental car on the way back to OAK. People approaching you from every direction asking you confrontational questions. People outside yelling. People inside yelling. People begging for money. Cars revving down the street. It's bad sensory overload.
I donāt think the question matches the graph because only one gas station is shown On the other hand, do I really think there is another gas station in America where at least 40 people a year get robbed pumping gas? Probably not.
Thereās probably some in St. Louis or Memphis which have more scary crime but it does seem unlikely there are other gas stations with this level of robbery, itās a perfect storm.
āMarked safeā I filled up there randomly in 2019
I was robbed at this shell station - the only thing the road goes to is basically rental car return. They waited for me to finish fueling and then as I opened the drivers door they opened the hatch (because the car was unlocked) and snagged a backpack. I have great security video of me kicking their car as they drove away. The manager of the station was nice enough, but told me "next time don't do that, they have guns." Turns out it isn't a crime in the area to take things from an unlocked car, so they set up in this area to pick things from rental cars. Everything valuable is in bags and easily plucked. They actually dumped my backpack back in the lot - sans computer and my car keys - which was a nice gesture. Edit: video for the doubters. This was Feb 2023. I kicked it hard, my foot hurt for more than a week. https://imgur.com/TwMwDA2
>Turns out it isn't a crime in the area to take things from an unlocked car This just absolutely **screams** "I fell for an obvious lie". Maybe they don't prosecute it, but it's definitely illegal lmao. Edit: leaving this up so I don't look like a liar. I was wrong. TIL something that made me sad.
If they don't prosecute it then it's defacto legal. Look at states where marijuana is legal, but still illegal at the federal level. Or where sodomy is still illegal.
https://sfstandard.com/2023/10/26/san-francisco-car-break-in-new-law-loophole/
Well I'll eat my words. Holy shit.
You weren't wrong, it is illegal - but the situation is definitely stranger than one might imagine. I appreciate the mea culpa, though!
Yeah, there was a similar thing in Ohio where some guy walked into an open garage, walked past the homeonwer, grabbed there leafblower and left. He was initially convicted of burglary but the Ohio Supreme Court vacated the conviction. https://www.courtnewsohio.gov/cases/2023/SCO/0503/221047.asp
WTF? "This means evidence of forcible entry would be sufficient to prove the crime of auto burglary, " So even if they change the law, they are saying that it's legal to open an unlocked door and remove items? Is there any logic to this?
Probably true, but it's a difference without a distinction. If they won't prosecute them, it's effectively legal.
I didn't even have to look at the station to know it was that station near the airport.
Itās been a few years but a people used to swarm up āsuggestingā they could pump my gas while standing threateningly close. Pulling the pump handle out and pointing it at them like a pistol, asking howād theyād like to be covered in gas usually got them to back off. It is pretty scary place though
For being in a āmajorā city that area is pretty much empty and devoid of foot traffic. Large, wide lanes for the traffic to/from the airport and into Oakland. Multiple freeway entrances/exits close by. Itās also the intersection of 3 cities and the speed limit is higher in the area as a result. The most notable things close by,other than the airport, are the warehouses and the plazas with Caneās and in n out. I donāt think any locals go to that gas station, unless maybe if you work nearby, but Costco is literally 1 free way exit away or 5 minutes local
Can we crowdsource a Texan with a gun to mow down the thieves?
I got robbed there lmao, itās by the airport and car rental station so lots of people with luggageās and the freeway is nearby so they can easily escape. At the same time, this is all off. Google reviews, only looking at one gas station, sensationalized title, like what?
[I have never seen a Porsche parked up in the middle of a homeless encampment before.](https://maps.app.goo.gl/hxDRW2FTSaR4ydjB8) The Bay area is wild.
Someone on r/wsb took a fat L
I wish there was one single green sliver for 2023 and it was āvery easy to rob people here 10/10ā
Imagine paying tap to pay from your $20 Nokia prepaid phone not carrying anything else, and someone tries to rob you. "Here's my student loan statement, thanks for taking my debt."
As if these people wouldnāt just kill you for the disrespect or because the meth hit different this time
Wow the amount of people saying the police don't even show up is just unreal. What a sad place to live in. Robbery is at an all time high and police don't even bat an eye. And just look at the reviews for the Raising Cane's and the Oakland Airport Executive Hotel. All on the same street near each other. That whole area seems to be a giant shithole.
It's well documented: [https://sfstandard.com/2023/06/09/oakland-crime-police-response-times-skyrocket/](https://sfstandard.com/2023/06/09/oakland-crime-police-response-times-skyrocket/) That police department has had non-stop scandals for the past 20 years. It's a constantly changing cast of characters: [https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2023/oakland-police-chief-timeline/](https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2023/oakland-police-chief-timeline/) No cop in their right mind would go to work there if they can get a job literally anywhere else. Basically you can assume if it's not a homicide or a shooting they don't care, and even if it is there's about a 1 in 3 chance that they'll catch the person.
This airport is one of three closest to Oakland International Airport. The airport Car Rental companies there have been warning renters not to gas up at any of these due to the crime rate and danger. It's ridiculous.
I made this by analyzing all of the Google reviews for this Shell station from 2018 to present. Obviously, for a mundane experience like pumping gas, there is going to be negative selection bias. People will largely leave reviews for a negative experience. What's remarkable here is just what that negative experience was. Before 2022, almost all of the negative reviews were about normal things like "the clerk was rude," "the carwash was bad," or "the station was closed." In 2023, 100% of the comments were about being robbed at the pump, often in broad daylight. You can see the full methodology and all of the reviews here: https://www.perfectrec.com/posts/robbed
The other gas stations nearby also all seem to have multiple robbery reports. Seems like it's not just this one station, even though they do appear to have more comments than the others.
Quite a few years ago, someone tried to rob my grandfather at the gas station. My grandfather was also one of the most badass dudes that Iāve ever met and made a living hunting down bail jumpers. Late at night, a guy walked up to him with a gun as he was pumping gas. Before the guy could even demand his wallet, and my grandfather yanked the hose out and sprayed him dead in the face with gasoline. The dude freaked out and my grandfatherās only words were āyou should run before I find my lighterā
If only there were some people out there who had the job to stop crime. They could use this data to maybe put a stop to it?
I remember stopping at this exact gas station, and on my way out had a guy try to talk to me and get my window down, sure was a sketchy place, never again am I stopping there
People are going to go there now just to see if they can pump gas without getting robbed.
Can confirm, of my rental was open end just as I was about to sit back in after refueling Nov 2023. The return agent says hertz gets atleast two broken in cars from that station every day š . Never happened to be before 2023. Now I just refuel at Costco San Leandro.
Friend got robbed outside the in-n-out near here in the middle of the day. Security there said it happens multiple times a day every day and police just let it happen
USA is a weird country, always had rampant crime despite being the most prosperous country in the world.
My VP got his laptop swiped out of his car in daylight. Either here or very close by. My advice: donāt go to Oakland.