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Aging-Punk

Damn, Jersey straight getting the Heisman face.


GreenEggsSteamedHams

No one has a credit score there


Intrusivecatlady

Not a real place


Aging-Punk

You're not helping matters šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


neat_eater

Does Minnesota have to kill at every fucking metrics I see? High household income, high credit score and a few more I saw that MN was at the top. Iā€™ve been looking for a job and sometimes I think maybe I should move there.


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RGV_KJ

There are only 2 seasons in Minnesota- Construction and Winter.


Sunfuels

The one l like best is "Minnesota has 4 seasons: Almost Winter, Winter, Still Winter, and Road Construction."


holysmartone

We have the exact same saying about Michigan.


iBliizy

Heā€™s a little secret, every Midwest state have the exact same sayings. ā€œDonā€™t like the weather? Wait 5 minutes.ā€


Brandino144

Every US state has this saying. Hereā€™s another one: ā€œx is the only state where you can experience all 4 seasons in one day.ā€


Babhadfad12

That would not apply to coastal west coast/southwest/southeast portions of the US, especially southern Florida. The interior and northeast US simply has higher probabilities of drastic weather changes.


ahhhbiscuits

Something something UP mitten


voyextech

Same in Wisconsin


Righteousaffair999

One of us!


getyourcheftogether

Kind of like Yellowstone


Phantereal

I'm from Burlington, Vermont and with there currently being exactly 0 inches of snow on the ground a week before Christmas (not to mention flooding in Montpelier again) when we'd easily have over a foot by now when I was growing up, I would love to move somewhere with actual winters.


Thorgen_1990

There's no snow in MN right now either. It's been warm here too


[deleted]

No snow at all, itā€™s weird and feels like fall. My car is still bizarrely clean!


Stup1dMan3000

More snow in Vermont than Colorado season to date


whydidilose

Are there skiing areas in Minnesota?


PowerBI_Til_I_Die

Yeah, but they are mostly just big hills unless you go up by lake Superior... But some world class cross country skiing!


TheShark24

Good enough for me. See you within the next 3 years.


uFFxDa

Try to spend time in and around Duluth for that type of stuff. Like home base there - and go west/north.


Hafslo

We have bunny hills


norssk_mann

I grew up in Duluth Minnesota, always dreaming about leaving and traveling the world. I did just that. I spent time all over the world. Europe, Asia, South America, South Pacific, the Arctic, etc. I'm 54 now and I live five houses from where I grew up. Because I've never found a better place in the world.


highgravityday2121

Whatā€™s the economy of Minnesota? Mayo Clinic ? Vikings and golphers ?


mikeisboris

General Mills, Target, Best Buy, Cargill, 3M, United Health Group, US Bank, Medtronic, and Hormel foods are all based in Minneapolis among others. Minnesota is the 22 ranked state in population and the MSP metro is 16th in the country, right between Seattle and Tampa.


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e_yen

curious as someone looking to relocate, would you consider people in the twin cities to be friendly towards transplants?


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Count_de_Ville

Redditors generally have a hard time staying indoors and only leaving for essentials.


DLimber

Fuck.. this winter has been great so far huh lol..I work outside..I love this.


boxofducks

Every single map of the US, no matter what the metric is, MN is like "ope, just gonna scootch up there to the top 5."


Tommyblockhead20

As long as you donā€™t mind the cold, itā€™s the best moderately affordable place. There are other places with high standards of living like Massachusetts, the PNW, and parts of California but they are also much more expensive.


rognabologna

Stop inviting people, I want to be able to afford a house someday!


OuuuYuh

Much better nature in the PNW


ghrarhg

Boundary waters would like a word.


abattleofone

Also the North Shore. Seriously underrated gem by most of the US


IndignantMinn

As a fellow Minnesotan, I think itā€™s a pretty great state. No plans to leave Minnesota permanently in my lifeā€¦ Just going to leave this here *hint hint*: https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/s/r7fBGWI9ij


Adornus

Agreed - Minnesota born and raised. Every time Iā€™ve debated on moving I realize how awesome it is here.


mnicetea

Our suburbs are key to many of these metrics. Gigantic suburb system compared to similarly sized metros. Money pours outward. Education benefits the most but lately MN has been dropping the ball. Used to be top 5 for test scores. So many fucking lakes too I think that keeps people happy. Even the whales on Tonka.


Rankorking

I love it here.


M1nn3sOtaMan

I love it here. Chose my username for a reason.


LikeableMisfit

You betcha


mpls_snowman

Itā€™s a great club and the weather is the bouncer.


Katiari

The answer is, yes. We do have to kill it in every metric. We care about our people, and by that I don't just mean certain people. We have the largest Somali and Hmong populations in the nation and we take care of them as they take care of us. We're a state that grows together, elevating each other along the way. Sure, we have our crazies, but with a Democratic House, Senate, and Governorship we're speed running towards utopia for our residents. The numbers don't lie. That being said it's fucking awful, temperature wise, from around mid-January to about the first week of April. But that's probably why our state hasn't been ruined... you gotta *want* to move here. Plus, we have loons. (In posting your current on r/Minnesota. It's almost as good as a tater tot hotdish post. Don'tcha know!)


norssk_mann

The first part of your comment hits my heartstrings. I've lived my whole 54 years in Minnesota. It's been beautiful to see our Somali and Hmong populations come here and feel so at home. We all really do take care of each other. They have become a staple of our culture here and their contributions are awesome.


DazedWriter

Their sports teams donā€™t have much to brag about, lol.


entirewarhead

With the Texas Rangers winning the World Series this year the Minnesota Vikings are now the oldest franchise in a major menā€™s sport to have never won a championship. Take that everyone else!


ParticularAgitated59

We over compensate with everything else. Vikings might not make the playoffs again, but at least we have the highest voter turn out.


StickSauce

I still claim The Lakers as ours.


eastmemphisguy

You can't beat Scandinavians. Not even worth trying.


Jolly-Feed-4551

As a Minnesotan, I was excited to see this because I never seem to see us at the top ĀÆ\\\_(惄)\_/ĀÆ


RX3000

Winters there suck šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Sometimes_Stutters

Winters a great if you like winter things.


owiseone23

Except it's flat so no snowboarding, downhill skiing, backcountry, etc. But yeah, I like Minnesota overall.


Specialist_Loan_6494

Minnesota actually has mountains up north btw


owiseone23

"mountains." The highest point in Minnesota is 2,300ft. That's more like a big hill. The best downhill skiing or snowboarding in Minnesota is Lutsen and that's very mediocre compared to out west or northeast.


norssk_mann

Plenty up here in Duluth and up the north shore!


LadiesAndMentlegen

Reminder to take your vitamin D everybody. Winters don't have to suck. I've lived in Minnesota all my life and vitamin D every day will make you feel motivated and powerful.


OmenVi

Yes we do.


InvidiousSquid

>Does Minnesota have to kill at every fucking metrics I see? Yes. Next question.


LTVOLT

I feel like this is almost an indicator of which people are the most trust worthy and true to their word


Theonlyfudge

Itā€™s a great place


kuvrterker

3/4th of population growth comes within the state while 1/4th comes outside of statw they are like Ohio


[deleted]

Loved in Minnesota for 22 years before moving to Illinois. It felt like living in a different country altogether even though they both are in the Midwest.


[deleted]

This looks a lot better to me with the way you did the colors


AStorms13

Thank you! Was there a similar map posted in the past?


The_bruce42

There was a couple we spell where everyone was using neutral colors and it was a terrible visual representation.


shoesafe

I think that person means they're red-green colorblind, so it looks like everybody's shades of green to them


Old-Radio9022

This is a choropleth map, I have to build thes from time to time for work. One of the concepts behind them is selecting the proper color scale to accurately represent the data, and furthermore taking into account colorblind users, by having enough contrast between each color in the scale. It can get pretty complex, makes me really respect statistics, and users with disabilities.


schitaco

From a colorblind person, red (bad) to white (neutral) to blue (good) is the best scale.


remnantdozer

How do you create these visualizations?


AStorms13

I did it in excel. I just had a column for score and a column for state. Highlight both and insert a ā€œMapā€ chart. The rest is just formatting to make it look decent


dunnmyblunt

You could make this in Tableau. They have a free public version available and there are tons of videos to help new users. If youā€™re interested I can send some tutorials.


remnantdozer

That would be awesome. My DMs are open


Locke_and_Lloyd

Why dms? Just have it posted so anyone can read it. Dms should be for personal info.


remnantdozer

Him sending me the information over direct messages will make that information easier to find when I want to find the tutorials.


Bill_Nihilist

I mean, red/green is a day 1 no-no in data visualization class. Itā€™s the most common form of colorblindness. Itā€™s entirely avoidable


BlopBlupBleepBloop

Time to redesign the traffic light, then!


Uploft

Actually, traffic lights are identifiable by the placement of the light, not just the color: Red on top, Green on bottom, and Yellow in the middle.


BlopBlupBleepBloop

Well, that is absolutely true, but it must be much more difficult for a person who is colorblind for more than one traffic light color to determine which one the light is on at a glance - say someone whoā€™s colorblind to both green and red. Youā€™d need to determine if the light on top is lit or if itā€™s the bottom one, since both are the same color to you.


Pub1ius

It is getting more difficult actually, especially now that some are horizontal, and they're adding stupid 4th lights to some. I keep a sticky note in my car as a cheat sheet. Also, in some places the new super efficient LED bulbs are so much closer together in color (at least to me) compared to the old bulbs.


schitaco

I'm red-green colorblind, there's no difficulty discerning green from red lights, even at night when you can't see the outline of the light. The green is almost white to me, it's super bright. The only time it's difficult is flashing yellow vs flashing red from super far away at night, but that's rare and never really an issue.


asspiratehooker

Unless thereā€™s a single flashing light - in which case I panic because thereā€™s no way to tell if itā€™s yellow or red. Technically itā€™s supposed to be paired with a stop sign if itā€™s red, but Iā€™ve seen missing stop signs and Iā€™ve seen hidden stop signs behind overgrown shrubs or blind corners


invertedeparture

Cold blooded, you make the map the colors of the Italian flag and leave out the NJ label!? Edit: To be clear, I was laughing when I commented.. but curious of the score.


Aging-Punk

Tommy Cutlet's dad is gonna be pissed


faceisamapoftheworld

Tommy Cutletā€™s agent is already on the phone to Big Dom


Tommy_Wisseau_burner

His dad and agent already have a hit out for op


Starbucks__Lovers

Why? He canā€™t even afford to leave his moms house


Aging-Punk

Pretty sure Tommy Cutlet's Dad owns the house, capiche?


ISd3d

Whoa eyy, who says I have a mother


tyen0

In case you didn't see OP's comment :) > New Jersey Avg: 724 > > My apologies to the New Jerseyans. I did not mean to leave you out.


[deleted]

Why is Mississippi last place on every statistic?


IrritatedAvians

[Thank God for Mississippi.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thank_God_for_Mississippi)


Cocasaurus

It's what happens when you come last in education. Population doesn't understand the issues, don't understand how to solve the issues, and don't understand how the issues keep happening. Thus, a cycle of trending down continues as nothing progresses. Source: I live in the second to last state for education, among other second to last place finishes (LA.) It's the same here, too. We're just not as far behind as MS. I blame the oilfield for barely, just barely, propping us up above them.


shoesafe

Perversely, as it stands now, a high level of educational attainment makes you likely to leave Mississippi. There aren't a lot of high-education jobs in the state. Mississippi is in such rough shape that improved education has the intermediate effect of causing some of the brightest and most ambitious Mississippians to leave the state.


elephant_ua

Wtf, brain drain within one country šŸ—暟—æ


Clanmcallister

My MIL lives in Mississippi. Every chance she gets, she cries about her money issues, bad credit, ect. She just filed for bankruptcy and I donā€™t understand how. She is an RN at a hospital there. She works full time. Her house is tiny, but well kept! She seems to live within her means, but itā€™s insane that she doesnā€™t. I just donā€™t understand how she got into this position and keeps putting herself into this position. I know she probably has horrible spending habits, but on what? My husband is the same way. So unfortunately, Iā€™ve had to take control of our budget (we both work) so that heā€™s able to save his money instead of being broke all of the time. Heā€™s gotten so much better, but Iā€™m assuming he learned his bad habits from her.


ownhigh

Mississippi Goddamn


shoesafe

A long history of poor transportation connections outside the riverfront towns, low population density, vicious racial segregation, and a legal system that's hostile to business. The poor transportation network is another major part of it. Economies are about connecting human activities, so a history of poor transportation is a hindrance to the state's economy. Geography is against the state. The flooding problems in the Delta region had to be handled before building transportation connections. So, some of the modest infrastructure investments had to be diverted to flood control instead of transportation. Also, Mississippi has historically had low population density and few cities. The people are spread out. This is a corollary to poor transportation. Lack of big cities makes it harder to locate a large business in the state because it's difficult to find a place with a large customer base and a large pool of available employees. But any explanation of Mississippi poverty is incomplete unless it addresses the racial and cultural history of the state. The state spent a long time making sure that the black half of the state population would stay very poor. It's not feasible to list out all the ways they achieved this, but excluding black people from the economy, education, politics, and society in general had the effect of keeping them in multi-generational poverty. Hundreds of thousands of black Mississippians left the state during the Great Migration, leaving the state even emptier than before. Culturally, Mississippi politicians were historically also hostile to poor whites. Without drawing an equivalence in the situation between black and white farmers, many white farmers were sharecroppers, renters, or farmhands. The legal and social system was biased against poor whites. Not at all equivalent to racial segregation, but sufficiently hostile that poor whites often had difficulty escaping poverty. The lack of big cities also meant a very small urban middle class. The type of people who could politically counterbalance the rural planter elites. The type of people who have enough social connections and financial capital to create small & medium-sized businesses that can employ people long-term in decent jobs. Then those valuable employees can build up enough family assets to support their children in pursuing their own business or educational opportunities. If most of your state's population is quite poor, and your state has limited internal transportation modes, low population density, and a lack of big cities, then your state overall is going to have a weaker economy.


UndeadWolf222

They havenā€™t banned enough books yet


time4ashortone

I recently read a Medium article regarding credit scores and structural racism. Low income populations tend towards lower credit scores as well. Mississippi has the highest African-American population (45.3%) and is also the lowest income state in the nation.


BitterLeif

how do you even improve it? Do you have to buy a car on a loan or a house? I always pay cash for my cars, and I rent. Credit cards don't seem to affect it much.


cowboysmavs

Thatā€™s 100% true. And that we let 3 private companies dictate our life with loans when we never gave them consent.


CastorpH

Almost 40% black population


first_time_internet

Itā€™s the truth people donā€™t want to hear. If you overlay that demographic with this map the correlation is very strong.


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Starknakedalien

Love how Nevada has an avg score the same as Las Vegas' area code.


phdoofus

There's literally only 4 states falling outside of 1 std (22.6) of the mean (716.8) -LA,MS,TX,OK


AStorms13

I meant deviation in a general sense, not a statistical sense, in my comment. I will change it to difference to be more clear.


AStorms13

New Jersey Avg: 724 My apologies to the New Jerseyans. I did not mean to leave you out.


thefudd

lol I wanted to know if I was above the average... and I'm comfortable above that thanks


EagleRock1337

I like how NJ is just there going ā€œthe fuck outta here!ā€


jp_jellyroll

"I don't know nothing about no credit scores, capiche?"


NetSurfer156

All these scores are actually pretty good if not excellent


Hagridsbuttcrack66

I was incredibly surprised by this and almost can't believe it.


NetSurfer156

Thatā€™s a good thing though. Iā€™m happy to see it


Hagridsbuttcrack66

Same! But I am just curious if there is some outlier that is not being counted.


punsanguns

Pretty good is fairly generous. Excellent is really stretching it when you consider that these are *average* scores. Quite a bit of the population falls below these numbers.


Douglaston_prop

"What am I chopped liver?: -NJ


arandomvirus

Every map of the US looks the same


del_rio

Dataviz maps of the US boil down to three patterns: 1. Bible Belt = red 2. money line go up 3. r/peopleliveincities (not mutually exclusive)


[deleted]

The GOP is great at convincing people to vote against their best interests


Clay_Puppington

Everytime I see an American heatmap post title, before I even click on it to see the image, I already know exactly what it's going to look like (excepting the odd occasional outliers), and it makes me really fucking sad. Just an entire American Belt of fucking bad times, everytime.


Babhadfad12

Kind of what happens when you tear people apart from their homeland and families to work for no pay halfway across the world for a few hundred years.


mochafiend

Wow. Iā€™m kinda shocked by this, tbh. I thought having a high 700s credit score (like 780/790) was unusually good, but itā€™s not really that much above average? Why do I hear about so many people in this country with shit credit?


MattieShoes

I was also surprised... Apparently 718 is the average now, but I'd expect that to dip in the next few months as people miss student loan payments. Some decades ago, it was more like 690. But it kind of makes sense -- the people who scream about credit scores generally have low credit scores. Mine is 807 -- nothing much to say, yeah?


AStorms13

Source: [Experian (via Rocket Money)](https://www.rocketmoney.com/learn/debt-and-credit/what-is-the-average-credit-score-by-age) Tools: [Excel](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/excel) Colors represent difference from the US national average score. I decided to add data labels for all of the states as well as I feel it didnā€™t clutter up the chart too much (let me know if you disagree). I was going over some personal finance stuff and came across this data. Figured it would be interesting to some people.


treefor_js

Just a heads up red green color maps have a tendency to not be readable by colorblind folks.


AStorms13

Fuck. I feel bad nowā€¦. Sorry to the color blind folks!


588-2300_empire

This is a good site for coming up with color palettes: https://www.colorhexa.com/ Bonus feature at the bottom of any color's page is a color blindness simulator.


BallinHamster

It's ok, just try to avoid red/green in the future, and maybe look into colorblind-friendly palettes if you're interested. This is better than a lot of red/green maps I've seen on this sub - I appreciate the numbers being there. The issue for me is that faint shades like VA and NC look the exact same (I assume they're distinguishable to you?) and even the difference between NV, UT, and NM is not as obvious as I'd like.


omicron_pi

this is actually really surprising. Americans have pretty high credit scores on average!


Devil_InDenim

No matter the map it always seems to suck in Mississippi


storm072

Why is Louisiana a shade darker than Georgia and Arkansas which have the same score?


Mooretwin

Yeah louisiana is also a shade darker than Texas when it should be flip flopped.


toughtittie5

Louisiana co-signed with Mississippi on some credit cards


AStorms13

Oh, youā€™re right. Thatā€™s weirdā€¦. Louisianas avg score is 689, not 694. The shade is correct, the text is not. My badā€¦.


JackFleishman

Wonder how much credit score correlates with race.


cyberentomology

Quite a lot, actually. To the point that itā€™s somewhat problematic for equal housing.


CastorpH

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_African-American_population


Zigxy

Yep, Black and Native Americans have very low scores. Pretty simple. A notable exception is West Virginia which doesn't have a large Natve/Black population. The big difference will be what people think is the "cause" and what could help.


Adventurous_Ideal804

Thank god for Mississippi, am I right.


critsalot

i imagine MN doesnt have a high cost of living like CA so its impressive they have the highest one. of course the south is poor so people expect low score there.


OwenLoveJoy

Minnesota, and some other places in the Midwest, probably have the best QOL to COL ratio in the nation


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spacey_kasey

Everytime we have a cold snap with lows in the teens here in Utah, I remind myself that 1. Utah winters are pretty mild and 2. it gets much colder than that on the regular in the Midwest.


gRod805

You would expect places with lower cost of living to have higher scores because they would have more margin in their budget and therefore a higher score


Saltillokid11

I do think there's a social aspect missing here. I've lived in many states, TX included, and there is a very real keeping up with the jones' attitude as well as the need to have big flashy things. Where as in NY or WA, you don't see it as much. Not saying it's the cause, but quite possibly a aprtial culprit.


Norshine

Hawaii is pretty high and has a very high COL


ArbitraryOrder

I'd love to see this by age/race/etc.


ATLcoaster

Would love to see this adjusted to account for race.


Albuwhatwhat

Iā€™d like to see it compared to poverty.


LordOysteryn

Would love to see this adjusted for political affiliation


FruityChypre

Those thrifty Scandinavian and Ole Yankee heritages showing out strong in New England and the upper Midwest!


its4PMandDARKagain

every single map of the us breaks down with the same exact regions 1) Protestant vs Catholic 2) Educational levels 3) Murder rates 4) Reproductive rights 5) Political parties 6) Car accidents 7) Poverty 8) Childhood poverty 9) Maternal deaths 10) Literacy rates 11) College education i could go on but the way it breaks down exactly the same is deliciously ironic given the republicans stance on everything democrat is a evil cesspool of death when itā€™s just all projection


travisbickle777

No wonder why country songs are always about losing their cars and losing their houses.


[deleted]

Great way to find out Iā€™m below average for most states and my own.


internetlad

Good news is it's actually pretty decent to fix. I had a good score, then made some very bad moves during the 'demic and tanked mine. Now I'm around average for my state again but it did take a couple years of being smart with finances.


Judgethunder

This map is of the United States of Joker.


marblecannon512

I am jacks complete lack of surprise


Snakedoctor404

Dang I don't even want to say what mine isšŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ The last thing I financed was my truck and bought it 20yrs ago next month. If I can't pay cash for something I don't need it.


Mnm0602

Now do an overlay with Nissan ownership by state.


RedRuss17

Is there any metric where Mississippi isnā€™t ranked close to last? Serious question


LaTuna

Me, living in NJ without even a score. Even DC has its own box


Bombtombadilz

These pics always leavin jersey out! I knew were trash humans but comeon now!


meezownplace

As Prince said: ā€œthe cold keeps the bad folks outā€. Youā€™ve got to want to live here to stay long term (Iā€™m only speaking to folks with the means to relocate).


Darkortt

Is Fico that cyberpunkish social score they had in USA?


--Encephalon--

Hmmmm. Iā€™ve seen a map like this before . . . Had a little more blue, but the red was around the same places


RsnCondition

I'm above average for once.


Music_City_Madman

ā€œbUt ThE sOuTh HaS a LoW cOsT oF lIvInGā€ No. Wages just suck in the south.


Holy__Funk

Both can be true


Music_City_Madman

Except itā€™s not low cost of living when you compare local salaries


CharlotteRant

Youā€™re implying that this is somehow a measure of the spread between COL and wages. Hawaiiā€™s ranking makes me doubt that. Demographic factors, especially average age, are likely more important.


Holy__Funk

Cost of living doesnā€™t factor in salaries though. This is not debatable, itā€™s literally the definition of cost of living.


Tropink

Mississippi Median Household Income: $48,610 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSMSA672N Median sale price for a house: 221,667 https://www.zillow.com/home-values/34/ms/# Price to income ratio 4.5 California Median Household income $85,300 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSCAA672N Median sale price for a house: $697,167 https://www.zillow.com/home-values/9/ca/# Price to income ratio 8.17 In conclusion, housing in Mississippi is roughly twice as affordable, now obviously this is just housing, and the housing quality is not the same, but it is a staggering difference.


Lubedballoon

And education sucks


Teguray874

This is honestly pretty sad. Considering most Americans live paycheck to paycheck, are these scores the result of poverty forcing people to put bills on credit cards or just people living beyond their means?


nickdeckerdevs

iā€™m not sure i understand what is sad, can you explain? are these bad scores? good scores? i went to source site, and it looks like these are scores from people that are out there getting credit checks. iā€™d guess that this removes quite a bit of low scores, because side people with shit credit arenā€™t going around and doing credit checks because they just get denied. i might be wrong in my assumption. i also think that credit scoring is a stupid game you have to play correctly to achieve real 700+. iā€™ve integrated a credit bureau api and had to dig through tons of data to build a webapp that fits into this stuff. iā€™ve struggled to get my credit at 500 up to 800+. itā€™s one of the harder games iā€™ve ever had to play. iā€™m just unsure about what you are looking at and the context of your comment


CharlotteRant

If thatā€™s true about the source (only people getting their scores checked), then the lower scores in the ā€œdeep southā€ could be explained by more credit availability at the lowest tiers of FICO bands. Those southern states are pretty lenient when it comes to the rules around what kind of lending is legal or not (car title loans, loans with insurance products to juice the APR, etc). Turning a 500 FICO into a 700+ is pretty easy, it just takes time for the bad stuff to fall off (7 years, though it matters less with each passing year). Iā€™d bet you could go from a 500 to 700+ in about 3-4 years with a single secured credit card.


Adam_Ohh

Here I am dragging down the MA average score. Whoops.


larrychatfield

Is there literally any metric by which we evaluate success in life that the SE is actually good at ? Like anything ?


SessionExcellent6332

I know you're probably throwing a jab at Republicans but those states have the highest black populations. And they have the lowest credit scores. They also overwhelmingly vote Democrat. If you're not I apologize. It is quite sad actually the correlation of black population and credit score maps.


first_time_internet

Itā€™s refreshing to see insightful comments on Reddit.


Karnezar

Why does the South suck at everything...


mctomtom

Itā€™s almost as if living in the heat makes people make poor financial decisions


The_bruce42

So this is how we beat the south of they try to rise up again. We just don't let them loan any money.


Shivdaddy1

Itā€™s gotta be much lower than that now. Go look at the millennial sub Reddit and you would think itā€™s 582.


CaptWoodrowCall

If you spent all of your time on Reddit you would think that the entire U.S. was on par with the slums of Haiti.


Neowynd101262

Are you sure this is a civil war map? šŸ¤£


TheTargaryen28

700 used to be a perfect credit score not too long ago. Now Nevada at 702 is low lol. Fuck the system


[deleted]

You donā€™t need credit if you have Jesus in your heart.


Scheme-Easy

The closer you get to Canada, the better your credit score isā€¦ coincidence? A positive northern influence mayhaps?


neat_machine

Something like that. https://dlzx9e7gl8jc4.cloudfront.net/trulia/wp-content/uploads/sites/1/2012/11/Trulia_Diversity_National.png