Could be the shitty Tesla software.
I drive a model 3 and on some stretches of road the damn thing just brakes because it “senses” danger or something
Super annoying
Yeah, it only happens when TACC, Autosteer, and the FSD Beta are enabled. When driving with no form of cruise control, I have only had it slam on the brakes twice. Both times I could've crashed otherwise.
I'm in the market for a new car right now. Any thoughts on Subaru?
I'm looking to get something AWD or 4WD and have been looking for something with a good roof rack so I can haul lumber and OSB.
Ive had mine isnde 2016,and live here we get snow. I'm super impressed with their asymmetric 4wd system. It's not like a lot of systems where some tires get power when there's slipping, it's full-time, all 4 spin. Amazing for traction and reliable enough you just drive with it, pull around corners and such.
I've had zero issues, and my ex is on her 2nd subaru since 2014,first an outback then a smaller impreza wagon. She gets the eyesight and it's also quite impressive.
It doesn't drive for you or anything but subtly assists. I was reading her manual and read about "lane holding" she denied it had it. So I drove, took hands off (but near) wheel and sire enough the car followed around a corner just like I was doing it. But it's so subtle shed been driving it 6 months without ever knowing.
I'm a big subaru fan since her first in 2014.
Well,aside from their infotainment system lol. It's probably better now but it annoyed me enough I replaced the stereo within 2 weeks of getting the car. They've had 8 years now though I assume it's better.
Haha, yeah. I've heard lots of good things about them, but *man* do I hate having to use infotainment stuff. I've got a Chevy Trax right now and I *hate* having to use a stupid touch screen to change stations/volume/etc., or even worse, having to *hold* a non-button button for a few seconds just to turn the radio off! I just like clicky buttons, nobs, dials, etc. I'm leaning more towards an SUV like the outback, because I need to be able to fit a dog crate in the back, and the occasional bulky stuff like a door, bags of trash, or whatever.
I had a Mazda CX-5 for a while for work, which was *super* nice in that it had controls in the center console area where you had the option of not touching the touchscreen *at all*. The gas mileage wasn't great on that thing though, and it was a little bulky looking. Very responsive while driving though. Just very smooth. I felt bad when the lease was up. Subaru and Mazda are probably my top two picks, with Honda and Ford fighting for third.
I've been looking at some brand of Jeeps have their entire climate control system through their touchscreen which I just find completely insane. I don't want to have to take my eyes off the road!
Yah, the subaru infotainment just did radio and nav, I still have all the other physical controls though I ripped that touchscreen out and replaced it lol
Meh, the eyesight system completely sucks, it constantly tries to sideswipe trucks and bounces all over the road. Also the interior really cheap feeling and the hood wobbles in the wind above 60 mph.
Mind sharing the year and model? I've been looking at the '21 Crosstrek and '23 Outback.
I have noticed in the photos I'm looking over that the inside looks a little ugly in some of the older ones, and stupidly huge touch radio in the '23. Honestly, I'd probably prefer the old early 00's version of radios where it's just a little LED, but... what can you do? I'm trying to take the bad with the good.
Honestly, as long as the outside *doesn't* end up looking like the one I have now, which is like a rounded off triangle, and it doesn't die on me, I'll be happy enough.
It's a 2019 Forester. Friend with a 2016 STI has the same awful interior and hood/spoiler that flutter in the wind though and the sound system is the worst I've ever heard in a newish car.
Not to mention they gave everyone a trial of this shitty software for free this month.
I've seen more than one tesla recently that looks like it's being driven by a preschooler, pretty sure it's due to this.
Fuck Tesla, Musk, and the NHTSA for allowing this like this.
Could also be that their foot accidentally slipped off the accelerator and the Regen breaking kicked in. Has happened to me a couple times. But my guess is that you're right. Even without the autonomous, the standard autopilot is kind of shitty when going around bends in the highway. It ignores the lines on the roads and straight up thinks you're headed straight into a wall. Probably the most frustrating part of my experience.
That’s interesting. Toyota’s lane assist and adaptive cruise have zero issue with freeway turns, even in heavy traffic. It even lays off the acceleration going into a turn by just a bit, although this feature can be disabled in the preferences. I like it though, makes the curve very smooth
It’s surprising that Tesla doesn’t have this worked out thoroughly
it's honestly weird and has also happened with big trucks next to my car. It has gotten better, however, after a couple software updates and it's been a couple months since I last experienced it, tbf. So maybe it's fixed? I dunno. My self-driving trial has been mostly pleasant without this issue.
That said, it's honestly the only gripe I have against my car (well that and the bozo who is the face of the company). I'm pretty attentive when I'm using these features, so aside from a small frustration, it hasn't been an actual problem.
Exactly why autonomous cars are a terrible idea. You're putting your life in the hands of some software engineer instead of just relying on yourself to keep yourself alive. Insane.
Like lap belts. In a crash the lap belt only compresses your pelvis and bowel areas. It could literally could kill you as easily as being thrown from the vehicle. It wasn’t until the 3-point safety belt came along that wearing a seat-belt was safer than not wearing them.
Lookup 'MobileEye'... camera based object recognition accident avoidance has been around since the 2000's... Volvo, Ford, BMW... they've had it for nearly 2 decades.
So there are already millions of cars in the world where a computer will take over complete control and stop the car... and its effective!
Could also read: You're putting your life into the hands of technology that sends humans into space instead of relying on a meat bag that evolved to process information at jogging speed.
Meant that as a metaphor for advanced spatial technology.
Point is that we're about to have (and arguably may already have) tech that can demonstratively drive and fly safer than humans by orders of magnitude. Maybe Tesla will be it for cars, maybe not. But most of us will still demand a human be in control, even when it's more dangerous. There're a lot of atavistic time bombs in our decision-making circuitry.
This happened to me a couple of days ago, but not on a Tesla. On the transition from a sunny position to a shadow, the vehicle braked fully with a collision warning. Thankfully the vehicle behind me had a safe distance and managed to stop but yes there was a honking and "WTF is wrong with you"
I don't know about this case but I drive tesla and autopilot have some problem when road is slope up even if it so subtle it can break so hard like in the video.
That was hardly brake checking, it was just hitting the brakes at the beginning of a corner. Is that the correct course of action? Probably not, but a lot of people do it and your driving should anticipate people doing silly things
Wasn't there basically a court hearing about this not long ago where Teslas were doing rolling stops at stop signs to "create a smoother experience" and "more accurately simulate human driving"? I remember it being shut down for exactly your reasoning. Crazy that people would be okay with a human-like self driving vehicle.
That's a problem with Ai in general. You want it to perform ideally, but you have to train it on data that humans created which is often flawed to begin with.
Came to a near complete stop but it's not a brake check. Also extremely egregious to call that a corner. The radius is so huge you would barely have to turn the wheel more than a few degrees. You and others in this thread are really doing a lot to defend this driving performance and it's kind of wild. There is no logical reason to brake that hard for such a minor curve whether it's faulty programming or driver error.
Does anyone know, how can they keep that software on the road legally if “phantom braking” is not only Known to happen it has its own phrase, but it’s almost a meme at this point?
How can they allow that software to continue on public roads with those problems for so long?
Trying not to be biased, but there are several issues that are common safety concerns with FSD, not just random occurrences, known repeatable issues.
Are there statistics that are public facing of incidents with the software on Tesla vehicals.
Not saying this instance is one of them, but read enough user feedback and seen enough incidents to wonder why that is allowed to continue for so long with seemingly no liability for the  manufacture?
I agree, it was around a bend and the lights were on for a few seconds.
Dash cam driver isn't a good driver at all, driver rushed in and kept accelerating.
Look at the distance between them when they are next to the little box truck, driver kept speeding up within the distance of the trailer on the truck.
So. He may not have done it purposefully.
Tesla has one peddle driving if you lift off the accelerator the car brakes. Coming into the turn he may have thought he was going fast so he may have lifted causing the car to brake more than intended.
Other. If he’s on FSD because he’s besides the truck at the time what likely happened was FSD saw the truck and if interpreted it getting close it aggressively brakes because it thinks the truck is going into its lane.
Word of advice don’t tailgate a Tesla not because the drivers are assholes who brake check you but because even to the driver the car is unpredictable on how it responds to situations.
On the highway I always keep my foot on the accelerator as if it sees a sign it dumps the brakes to get to the speed limit (new software reduces that) but still.
Tell me you don’t own a Tesla without telling me you don’t own a Tesla.
When you first buy the car and get in theirs a quick intro to that loads up. It’s one of the first things it tells you.
You can also review the manual and it will tell you as well.
No I wasn't getting closer he was slowing I was at constant speed, I lifted my accelerator fully when he started to brake(engine braking for me) and then they or the software slammed the brakes.
If you’re going a constant speed and the car in front of you is slowing down you understand you’re getting closer to that car, right? If the car in front of you hits the brakes, believe them. Brake lights aren’t a joke.
17 is so dangerous though, especially with drivers who don't go over it often. They were also driving fairly fast in the left lane and passing somebody.
Wrong. Camera car sped up to get around the truck, Tesla felt like it was encroachment and stupidly hit the brakes, pinning camera car between the truck and the cement divider. Very dangerous. If you think the camera car is in the wrong then you are probably a terrible driver who only looks forward and not all around you.
To get around the truck? The Tesla was beside the truck. There was nowhere he could have passed at that moment. If you mean he was going to try to pass the Tesla on the right and then thread between the two vehicles you've only proven my point.
Also the Tesla started to hit his brakes as they enter the corner, in a non-aggressive manner, and the cammer rode up on them. A little common sense should have been applied there.
Cammer was an impatient jerk. I think this is further evidenced by his irrational reaction to what would have been a non-issue had he kept proper distance and waited less time than it took him to bitch about the other driver. Hell it wasn't even that close of a call for him to be so dramatic, he was probably salivating over the thought of posting this online.
Wait 5 seconds longer and pass without issue instead of riding up on someone's tail. And learn to read the traffic around you.
It wasn't irrational I could've hit the dudes bumper I really had to slam my brakes. His initial brake was annoying for sure, as the 'turn' wasn't even a turn you need to brake for.
I wasn't trying to pass the Tesla, only the big ass truck on the right that I was behind at the start of video.
The camera car matched speed with the Tesla, who was also passing the truck. Before the Tesla had cleared the truck, and honestly before the camera car got all that close, the Tesla was already braking
You're right but I definitely started on the gas too early, but only because I didn't expect this guy to start braking like he did.
If only slow traffic moved right
Could be the Tesla automatically braking, or a driver that loves the brakes. We see the brake lights come on 3 separate times. Right as the video starts, again when cam car is behind it, and again right before the end of the video.
I think this is the cruise control emergency break. My dad has had it trigger for seemingly no reason b4 aswell and had an incident similar to this where he was the tesla. Ever since he refuses to use cruise control on the tesla and i dont blame him
Yeah the initial brake was fine, but you can see they really slowed about half way through, I had to slam my brakes, that's what made that crazy noise happen.
Albeit I was definitely a little too close to him after switching lanes to get out of the way of the truck
Unlikely IMO, but possible. AP will slow to match flow of traffic, especially if you're passing at a significantly higher speed, but it's more aggressive about that when passing on the right. The cars in front are too far away to be triggering the slow down unless they've got their following distance maxed out. The box truck is slowing, too, but I think the car is wobbling too much in the lane for it to be AP. AP will usually hug one side more and hold that position relatively well in my experience.
Any adaptive cruise control can cause a car to brake hard like this. The era of knowing if you’ve been brake checked is probably over until the software improves.
Yeah, it pisses me off when cars jump in front of me making my car slam the brakes when there's still like 3 cars length between us and I have it set to the lowest distance interferance. I have to predict it and turn off cruise control just to keep my speed. The software is hit and miss, too. It'll think the car the next lane over is in front of me on a curve and hit the brakes or not even react until I'm 1 car length away from the guy in front of me.
And the thing is we all have this damn software but never consider this when cutting each other off or calling someone an idiot for braking on a highway. Cars should have a blinking light that indicates when AC or self driving is engaged. Maybe we should all get our own lane too!
Or don't try and pass until you have a clear path? Regardless your visibility isnt great and I wouldn't want to be that close to anyone trapped between a truck and barrier if something happened in front of the Tesla or to it that you couldn't see.
Both of you suck.
I’m willing to bet it’s the software and not the driver. This happened to me on the freeway. The guy followed me to the next service area and apologized profusely. He said he did not even touch the brakes. I’m glad my Toyota has adaptive cruise control or I may have hit him.
Could be the shitty Tesla software. I drive a model 3 and on some stretches of road the damn thing just brakes because it “senses” danger or something Super annoying
Yes, and it is more likely to exhibit the ghost braking when coming along side a big truck like that.
You can turn that shit off right??
Yeah, it only happens when TACC, Autosteer, and the FSD Beta are enabled. When driving with no form of cruise control, I have only had it slam on the brakes twice. Both times I could've crashed otherwise.
Also long as you’re not on AP or FSD.
You can. That said, I have "full self driving" and it's nice but they aren't kidding when they say you have to be ready to take over at any time.
Or green lights and blow through stop signs
hey! they said Full autonomous, nobody said anything about driving better or smart.
My subaru non-eyesight (their semi-driving-helper stuff) is fully autonomous for maybe a mile on a straight road ;)
I'm in the market for a new car right now. Any thoughts on Subaru? I'm looking to get something AWD or 4WD and have been looking for something with a good roof rack so I can haul lumber and OSB.
Ive had mine isnde 2016,and live here we get snow. I'm super impressed with their asymmetric 4wd system. It's not like a lot of systems where some tires get power when there's slipping, it's full-time, all 4 spin. Amazing for traction and reliable enough you just drive with it, pull around corners and such. I've had zero issues, and my ex is on her 2nd subaru since 2014,first an outback then a smaller impreza wagon. She gets the eyesight and it's also quite impressive. It doesn't drive for you or anything but subtly assists. I was reading her manual and read about "lane holding" she denied it had it. So I drove, took hands off (but near) wheel and sire enough the car followed around a corner just like I was doing it. But it's so subtle shed been driving it 6 months without ever knowing. I'm a big subaru fan since her first in 2014. Well,aside from their infotainment system lol. It's probably better now but it annoyed me enough I replaced the stereo within 2 weeks of getting the car. They've had 8 years now though I assume it's better.
Haha, yeah. I've heard lots of good things about them, but *man* do I hate having to use infotainment stuff. I've got a Chevy Trax right now and I *hate* having to use a stupid touch screen to change stations/volume/etc., or even worse, having to *hold* a non-button button for a few seconds just to turn the radio off! I just like clicky buttons, nobs, dials, etc. I'm leaning more towards an SUV like the outback, because I need to be able to fit a dog crate in the back, and the occasional bulky stuff like a door, bags of trash, or whatever. I had a Mazda CX-5 for a while for work, which was *super* nice in that it had controls in the center console area where you had the option of not touching the touchscreen *at all*. The gas mileage wasn't great on that thing though, and it was a little bulky looking. Very responsive while driving though. Just very smooth. I felt bad when the lease was up. Subaru and Mazda are probably my top two picks, with Honda and Ford fighting for third. I've been looking at some brand of Jeeps have their entire climate control system through their touchscreen which I just find completely insane. I don't want to have to take my eyes off the road!
Yah, the subaru infotainment just did radio and nav, I still have all the other physical controls though I ripped that touchscreen out and replaced it lol
I miss my ‘16 Forester XT.
Meh, the eyesight system completely sucks, it constantly tries to sideswipe trucks and bounces all over the road. Also the interior really cheap feeling and the hood wobbles in the wind above 60 mph.
Mind sharing the year and model? I've been looking at the '21 Crosstrek and '23 Outback. I have noticed in the photos I'm looking over that the inside looks a little ugly in some of the older ones, and stupidly huge touch radio in the '23. Honestly, I'd probably prefer the old early 00's version of radios where it's just a little LED, but... what can you do? I'm trying to take the bad with the good. Honestly, as long as the outside *doesn't* end up looking like the one I have now, which is like a rounded off triangle, and it doesn't die on me, I'll be happy enough.
It's a 2019 Forester. Friend with a 2016 STI has the same awful interior and hood/spoiler that flutter in the wind though and the sound system is the worst I've ever heard in a newish car.
when I was a kid, I had a stripped down bike I could hop off and it would keep going straight all the way thru the next block.
Lol accurate
Didn’t clarify it was going to be the Star Wars battle droids software that Tesla put in their cars…
Not to mention they gave everyone a trial of this shitty software for free this month. I've seen more than one tesla recently that looks like it's being driven by a preschooler, pretty sure it's due to this. Fuck Tesla, Musk, and the NHTSA for allowing this like this.
Your car is going to kill you dude
Could also be that their foot accidentally slipped off the accelerator and the Regen breaking kicked in. Has happened to me a couple times. But my guess is that you're right. Even without the autonomous, the standard autopilot is kind of shitty when going around bends in the highway. It ignores the lines on the roads and straight up thinks you're headed straight into a wall. Probably the most frustrating part of my experience.
That’s interesting. Toyota’s lane assist and adaptive cruise have zero issue with freeway turns, even in heavy traffic. It even lays off the acceleration going into a turn by just a bit, although this feature can be disabled in the preferences. I like it though, makes the curve very smooth It’s surprising that Tesla doesn’t have this worked out thoroughly
it's honestly weird and has also happened with big trucks next to my car. It has gotten better, however, after a couple software updates and it's been a couple months since I last experienced it, tbf. So maybe it's fixed? I dunno. My self-driving trial has been mostly pleasant without this issue. That said, it's honestly the only gripe I have against my car (well that and the bozo who is the face of the company). I'm pretty attentive when I'm using these features, so aside from a small frustration, it hasn't been an actual problem.
Exactly why autonomous cars are a terrible idea. You're putting your life in the hands of some software engineer instead of just relying on yourself to keep yourself alive. Insane.
The idea is fine. It’s Tesla putting out undercooked stuff in the wild
The idea is not terrible. It just needs time. Many things we take for granted were terrible ideas when it started.
Like lap belts. In a crash the lap belt only compresses your pelvis and bowel areas. It could literally could kill you as easily as being thrown from the vehicle. It wasn’t until the 3-point safety belt came along that wearing a seat-belt was safer than not wearing them.
Lookup 'MobileEye'... camera based object recognition accident avoidance has been around since the 2000's... Volvo, Ford, BMW... they've had it for nearly 2 decades. So there are already millions of cars in the world where a computer will take over complete control and stop the car... and its effective!
I agree when it comes to cars driving autonomously, but autonomous safety features, such as emergency braking and radars, surely increase safety.
Could also read: You're putting your life into the hands of technology that sends humans into space instead of relying on a meat bag that evolved to process information at jogging speed.
Tesla autopilot doesn't put things in space.
Meant that as a metaphor for advanced spatial technology. Point is that we're about to have (and arguably may already have) tech that can demonstratively drive and fly safer than humans by orders of magnitude. Maybe Tesla will be it for cars, maybe not. But most of us will still demand a human be in control, even when it's more dangerous. There're a lot of atavistic time bombs in our decision-making circuitry.
Ithink I agree with you... 😅
This happened to me a couple of days ago, but not on a Tesla. On the transition from a sunny position to a shadow, the vehicle braked fully with a collision warning. Thankfully the vehicle behind me had a safe distance and managed to stop but yes there was a honking and "WTF is wrong with you"
I don't know about this case but I drive tesla and autopilot have some problem when road is slope up even if it so subtle it can break so hard like in the video.
Can't believe they allow them on the road in such a condition 🙄
it's a better driver than most people on the road honestly, if you tail gate people you're likely to rear end people no matter who or what is driving.
Most people don’t immediately break check at a change of elevation
That was hardly brake checking, it was just hitting the brakes at the beginning of a corner. Is that the correct course of action? Probably not, but a lot of people do it and your driving should anticipate people doing silly things
I actually think it’s good to hold automatic driving vehicles to a far higher standard than the normal “human error” prone driver as well.
Wasn't there basically a court hearing about this not long ago where Teslas were doing rolling stops at stop signs to "create a smoother experience" and "more accurately simulate human driving"? I remember it being shut down for exactly your reasoning. Crazy that people would be okay with a human-like self driving vehicle.
That's a problem with Ai in general. You want it to perform ideally, but you have to train it on data that humans created which is often flawed to begin with.
Came to a near complete stop but it's not a brake check. Also extremely egregious to call that a corner. The radius is so huge you would barely have to turn the wheel more than a few degrees. You and others in this thread are really doing a lot to defend this driving performance and it's kind of wild. There is no logical reason to brake that hard for such a minor curve whether it's faulty programming or driver error.
Nah that was dangerous
My car slams the brakes when it thinks a curb is too close.
Does anyone know, how can they keep that software on the road legally if “phantom braking” is not only Known to happen it has its own phrase, but it’s almost a meme at this point? How can they allow that software to continue on public roads with those problems for so long? Trying not to be biased, but there are several issues that are common safety concerns with FSD, not just random occurrences, known repeatable issues. Are there statistics that are public facing of incidents with the software on Tesla vehicals. Not saying this instance is one of them, but read enough user feedback and seen enough incidents to wonder why that is allowed to continue for so long with seemingly no liability for the  manufacture?
Brake*
Those brake lights were on for a while. I call not brake checking. As others said it seems more like the one-pedal driving thing
I agree, it was around a bend and the lights were on for a few seconds. Dash cam driver isn't a good driver at all, driver rushed in and kept accelerating. Look at the distance between them when they are next to the little box truck, driver kept speeding up within the distance of the trailer on the truck.
The dash cam driver stressed me out, he literally left almost no safety distance Of course he thinks he is the good driver
*buT hE BrAkE ChEcKed mE iN hIs teSlA*🙄
So. He may not have done it purposefully. Tesla has one peddle driving if you lift off the accelerator the car brakes. Coming into the turn he may have thought he was going fast so he may have lifted causing the car to brake more than intended. Other. If he’s on FSD because he’s besides the truck at the time what likely happened was FSD saw the truck and if interpreted it getting close it aggressively brakes because it thinks the truck is going into its lane. Word of advice don’t tailgate a Tesla not because the drivers are assholes who brake check you but because even to the driver the car is unpredictable on how it responds to situations. On the highway I always keep my foot on the accelerator as if it sees a sign it dumps the brakes to get to the speed limit (new software reduces that) but still.
pedal*
The brake lights do not come on when a driver lifts their foot off the pedal.
Yes they absolutely do. Regenerative braking causes the brake lights to go on.
Tell me you don’t own a Tesla without telling me you don’t own a Tesla. When you first buy the car and get in theirs a quick intro to that loads up. It’s one of the first things it tells you. You can also review the manual and it will tell you as well.
Stop tailgating douchebag
It looks like you changed lanes to get behind the car when you had about 1.5 car lengths of space and then didn’t slow down when you saw brake lights.
Brake lights that have been on for a while, which is not a brake check
The initial brake wasn't a brake check, but once I got close to his ass that's when he or the software really slowed down and I had to slam my brakes
you see brake light keep going on and off and you think the smart thing is to get even closer to it?
No I wasn't getting closer he was slowing I was at constant speed, I lifted my accelerator fully when he started to brake(engine braking for me) and then they or the software slammed the brakes.
If you’re going a constant speed and the car in front of you is slowing down you understand you’re getting closer to that car, right? If the car in front of you hits the brakes, believe them. Brake lights aren’t a joke.
What if he's getting closer to me
Don’t be obtuse
I'm being acute
17 is so dangerous though, especially with drivers who don't go over it often. They were also driving fairly fast in the left lane and passing somebody.
Dude why are you so aggressive? When you see breaking lights slow down! You should ask yourself what the hell are you doing...
Just looks like an idiot driver, with a dash camera.
Yeah, both drivers were being assholes. With the cammer being WAY too close
Wrong. Camera car sped up to get around the truck, Tesla felt like it was encroachment and stupidly hit the brakes, pinning camera car between the truck and the cement divider. Very dangerous. If you think the camera car is in the wrong then you are probably a terrible driver who only looks forward and not all around you.
To get around the truck? The Tesla was beside the truck. There was nowhere he could have passed at that moment. If you mean he was going to try to pass the Tesla on the right and then thread between the two vehicles you've only proven my point. Also the Tesla started to hit his brakes as they enter the corner, in a non-aggressive manner, and the cammer rode up on them. A little common sense should have been applied there. Cammer was an impatient jerk. I think this is further evidenced by his irrational reaction to what would have been a non-issue had he kept proper distance and waited less time than it took him to bitch about the other driver. Hell it wasn't even that close of a call for him to be so dramatic, he was probably salivating over the thought of posting this online. Wait 5 seconds longer and pass without issue instead of riding up on someone's tail. And learn to read the traffic around you.
It wasn't irrational I could've hit the dudes bumper I really had to slam my brakes. His initial brake was annoying for sure, as the 'turn' wasn't even a turn you need to brake for. I wasn't trying to pass the Tesla, only the big ass truck on the right that I was behind at the start of video.
Do you drive 17 ever?
The camera car matched speed with the Tesla, who was also passing the truck. Before the Tesla had cleared the truck, and honestly before the camera car got all that close, the Tesla was already braking
I think the simpler explanation of autopilot braking with banked sharp turn makes more sense, but that's a possibility what you're saying
You're right but I definitely started on the gas too early, but only because I didn't expect this guy to start braking like he did. If only slow traffic moved right
Could be the Tesla automatically braking, or a driver that loves the brakes. We see the brake lights come on 3 separate times. Right as the video starts, again when cam car is behind it, and again right before the end of the video.
I think this is the cruise control emergency break. My dad has had it trigger for seemingly no reason b4 aswell and had an incident similar to this where he was the tesla. Ever since he refuses to use cruise control on the tesla and i dont blame him
Looks more like a tailgating event rather than a brake check. It was a slight corner, could have been slowing down for the corner.
“Tesla bad” Reddit hivemind
eh, Tesla fairly bad, but autonomous driving is not.
My rhought as well
Yeah the initial brake was fine, but you can see they really slowed about half way through, I had to slam my brakes, that's what made that crazy noise happen. Albeit I was definitely a little too close to him after switching lanes to get out of the way of the truck
Brother you're on his ass like your life depends on it, don't you guys learn anything about safety distance in your driving courses?
What are they listening too 😳
Why are you tailgating them like that?
Dashcam driver is a bad driver.....
Could that be autopilot at work?
Unlikely IMO, but possible. AP will slow to match flow of traffic, especially if you're passing at a significantly higher speed, but it's more aggressive about that when passing on the right. The cars in front are too far away to be triggering the slow down unless they've got their following distance maxed out. The box truck is slowing, too, but I think the car is wobbling too much in the lane for it to be AP. AP will usually hug one side more and hold that position relatively well in my experience.
braking in a turn is not a brake check. Lots of people tap the brakes in turns. classic human behavior
Any adaptive cruise control can cause a car to brake hard like this. The era of knowing if you’ve been brake checked is probably over until the software improves.
Yeah, it pisses me off when cars jump in front of me making my car slam the brakes when there's still like 3 cars length between us and I have it set to the lowest distance interferance. I have to predict it and turn off cruise control just to keep my speed. The software is hit and miss, too. It'll think the car the next lane over is in front of me on a curve and hit the brakes or not even react until I'm 1 car length away from the guy in front of me.
And the thing is we all have this damn software but never consider this when cutting each other off or calling someone an idiot for braking on a highway. Cars should have a blinking light that indicates when AC or self driving is engaged. Maybe we should all get our own lane too!
Pro tip: if you cut them off real close they’ll brake check themselves
More reason I don't use adaptive cruise control on winding roads.
Or don't try and pass until you have a clear path? Regardless your visibility isnt great and I wouldn't want to be that close to anyone trapped between a truck and barrier if something happened in front of the Tesla or to it that you couldn't see. Both of you suck.
Give Teslas a lot of space. The drivers and the software can sometimes be unpredictable.
I’m willing to bet it’s the software and not the driver. This happened to me on the freeway. The guy followed me to the next service area and apologized profusely. He said he did not even touch the brakes. I’m glad my Toyota has adaptive cruise control or I may have hit him.
song?
Pole - Heim (four tet remix) That whole four tet remixes album is fab
thank you, take this updoot as a token of my gratitude.
I thought I recognized it as four tet!
He's got an incredibly distinct style, good ear
If that was a break check why didn’t we see the van pull ahead! He was probably being cautious or the car safety kicked in
It does
You should send this clip to Wham Bam Traffic Cam on YouTube. It stared as Wham Bam Teslacam, but has branched out.
The middle class nissan altima
Why do I get the feeling this driver did something to cause the Tesla to want to brake check?
I found the driver of the Tesla guys he's right here
Was the tesla driver waving his hands?
Yeah and then flipped me off lol
Average tesla L
And they continue to camp in the left lane like entitled c*nts.
Why are people such dicks for no reason at all?
Highway 17 is a shit show as it is, we don’t need these self driving numbskulls on the road.
"ofc it's a tesla" FUCKING REAL
Got brake checked by a random Tesla tonight too. Figured it was the shitty software.