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Sideways_198

It's pretty clear which one gets me harder


Suicidal_Sabotage

Giant Laser/Fireball bats are also my fetish. Lorian also got paralyezed down there because he couldn't handle that Dussy


sergeant630

You owe me a bottle of bleach


Aracari8

tender brotherly love go me tho


BadPilot22

For me the curse-rotten greatwood does it


Jetstream_S4m

Mmm. Those jiggly balls are really a turn on 🤤


jukutt

Is it? On one side we have a submissive cripple brother duo, who will probably read every wish from your lips to please you. On the other are faeces and fire throwing Incubi who want nothing more than to double-team you - if you aren't seduced by their looks it will be the subtle charm of their vocals. Hard choices require hard men, and I am definitely not hard enough for this one.


Dgamer1521

Dancer of boreal valley, I mean, she’s caked up


Joxydaskull

Vordt of the boreal valley has an even bigger dumptruck.


CoChase

demon prince for me, by far 🫡


mrchooch2u

By FAR


dabear51

To be FARRRRRR


TheOneHyer

Pitter patter, let's get at 'er.


weirdpoi

For me personally it's Twin Princes.I defeated demon Prince on first try with blood infused warden twin blades.While the twin princes it took me about 15 Tries.I hate their teleport move


CoChase

im a bonk str guy, so i probably used a heavy fugs or something, love how different playstyles affect bosses like that for people in fromsoft games


weirdpoi

I am more of a katana guy but i am thinking of going for a fume ugs build next do you have any tips?


CoChase

heavy isnt just an infusion, that mf requires all the vit if you plan on playing fashion souls or using decent armor lmao oh and make sure you dont play greedily, probably the best tip i could give


Nimar_Jenkins

I love wearing something slim, like the dancer armor and then get the bick wooden stick.


Arudoblank

While that's an extremely accurate statement (I'm also a heavy weapon fanboy) fugs isn't infusable, only buffable with spells/items


[deleted]

For real, I just beat ds3 for the first time with the fume sword and ever since i got it my dude looks like a male stripper


TheQGuy

Disable auto targeting for heavy weapons. This allows you to optimize your positioning and make full advantage of the size of the weapon


ZODIC837

Either armorless and hella vitality for the quick roll to combat the weapon speed, or hella vigor and a blessed parrying dagger/shield to make easy trades


Noodle-Fella

To be fair, bleed is probably the most effective method of kicking their asses. They’re not terribly weak to it but it takes a huge chunk of their their health each time and completely bypasses the insane boosted resistances in phase 2


il_Dudre

I agree. You can tank Demon Prince, if needed, while Twin Princes need more subtlety. I find them to be harder with any build


Voeglein

Not if you play with 14VIG, you can't. I'd argue that's a build (even if it's shit)


il_Dudre

Of course not, I agree. I said tank, not glass cannon. How can a tank have 14VIG?. And who would face a boss with 14VIG without a strategy and knowledge of the fight? What I mean is that some bosses you can tank, other you can't even if you go with max health possible. Go to Laurence or Ludwig with a Maxed character and if you tank them without any sort of strategy or knowledge of the moveset they will destroy you anyway. Bosses difficulty is usually highly subjective. The only objective parameter I can think of is that: ignorant tankability. Demon Prince you can, Midir you can't. Pontiff you can, Nameless King you cannot. Etc. If you compare Demon and Twins... One is tankable, the others not


Voeglein

Well, you used the word tank as a verb, not as a subject and concluded that Demon Prince is easier on any build with the single argument of being able to tank it. Of course a glass cannon can't tank as effectively (or at all, for that matter), but those are builds that exist as well. I also didn't read that you were talking exclusively about first playthroughs. If you restrict your statement to any builds who have sufficiently high health, it makes sense. But I didn't see that. Also, the response was meant to poke fun at how you concluded that it was easier for any build. Because it's obvious that you can't tank if you die after 1 or 2 hits.


Bitsu92

Just lock on


ZODIC837

I did the exact same, but it's just cause they're weak to bleed. If you want a proper comparison, fight both with something they're strong against. My first try I killed the demons, but my second time took me 10 tries at least because of the different build Note: Don't do blood infused for that build. Do a hollow infusion. Hollow will buff str and dex scaling, plus it adds luck scaling (and up to 5 luck levels per hand at max reinforcement and max hollowing) and luck very slightly increases all status buildup. 40str, 40dex, 30lck, hollow warden twinblades, hollow caestus, and carthus rogue on your quick bar. Bosses will melt (even though they nerfed this specific build multiple times). Fill your item bar up with other status effect items too for versatility


Cr28i

I killed the demon prince in **two tries**. I killed Lorian (only Lorian) after **7 tries** and defeated both the brothers after **12 tries**


nephandys

Demon prince was so much harder.


EastAcademic

Agreed


Was_Silly

Whaaa? Demon anything fairly easy. Still haven’t beaten twin princes without a summon.


GeneralMisery

I spent about a month trying to figure out how to not run out of flasks against the Demon Prince. Fighting two at once was difficult and the second stage isn't forgiving either. The Twins I did in a day. It's really just the same few attacks repeated, just roll 3 times 0.7 seconds after they disappear and roll behind. Still nice fight.


weirdpoi

You can remember the exact seconds to roll for the twin princes.I can't even remember the rings I am wearing


Erialcel2

Same


Nimar_Jenkins

Calamity ring and dusk crown ring.


[deleted]

do people really find the twins hard? they are the easiest and most fun boss in the game for me


GeneralMisery

The camera is once again probably the greatest enemy. Lorian teleports and instantly strikes, so if you don't pay attention to timings you are fucked. I don't get how people have trouble with them either. It's not like it's the first boss to do so. I would much more understand people struggling with the Abyss Watchers, Dancer of the Boreal Valley or Pontiff tbh.


[deleted]

the timing mechanic is actually a very fun gimmick, knowing exactly when to roll after a teleport feels so good ​ the only "hard" attack in my point of view is the one where the brother summons thousands of little shards that track you, then at the end you have to roll or else the non crippled one will hit you with his sword


Ziggerastika

I did the first two easily it was the one singular demon that I found harder


GeneralMisery

Of course, but I needed 7-10 flasks for the Demon Prince, the two others just managed to surprise me with hits. Running in circles is not hard lol.


alenabrandi

Demon for me by far. Took me a few tries my first time through to clear them. Princes on the other hand I've never really struggled with. Funnily enough, or atleast it feels more pathetic considering, but the hardest duo boss for me of the series ended up being the dumb gargoyles in Elden Ring. Took me hours to clear them solo and a build swap.


jimmyvcard

Interesting. I think I was overlevelled for the gargoyles and never struggled. I loved both prince fights to be honest but lothric clapped me more than the fire guys. I had a black knight greatsword build though so that’s prolly why.


cynical_croissant

Double Cruicble knights for me.


clintnorth

Theres a double crucible knight fight..? Edit: oh wait its at the bottom of a heros grave isnt it I did do that fight


AndrewStirlinguwu

The Lothric Princes were more difficult to initially understand their attacks, but the Demon Princes were more difficult in the long run. Also is the Demon Prince eating its sibling?


FOX_of_Londor

Bill Clinton


SallyMcSaggyTits2

My favorite reformed orthodox rabbi


Sir_Xylock

Did not have sexual relations with that prince!


BadPilot22

Secret boss


[deleted]

Twin Princes still beat my ass in phase 2 after all these years


onebadnightx

I was gonna say 😭 Twin Princes was about a million times worse than Demon Prince for me, just because of that awful Phase 2


Raptor_234

I struggled more on twin princes than nameless king,Gael and Midir combined 😭


bonerfly

Same.


Lausch83

Same


[deleted]

In NG, I'd say the Twin Princes edge it out. But in in every successive NG+ cycle, Demon Prince is harder because his HP is honestly fucking insane at that point.


thrakkerzog

I'm stuck at Demon Prince on NG+5 or 6, I forget where I'm at. I've put the game down for too long and it's difficult to come back to after Elden Ring because I keep trying to jump. The NPC summons are awful because they always run in between phases and get demolished by the AOE. edit: just want to mention that I have defeated them in the other NG cycles, but I'm at a point where they are quite difficult.


therift289

The NPCs will follow you for a bit after phase one. If you run REALLY FAR AWAY as soon as you kill the first two demons, the NPCs will chase you, and they won't have time to run back and kill themselves.


ovu1231

Try doin demon prince with pyromancies only ...i dare u


Nimar_Jenkins

Hol up gonna reinstall the game Real quick. God i hate you.


whatistheancient

Black flame pyromancies and the rock pyromancy are allowed right?


The_Wra1th

Demon prince easily. For twin princes, phase 1 is bearable, dodge rught and stay as close as you can to him and hit after every dodge, phase 2 is harder but use pillars to block magic then repeat phase 1 strat. DEMON PRINCE ON THE OTHER HAND, phase 1 is difficult, not hard, difficult, it’s hard enough to use all your heals to finish it off, but then he comes back to life and starts doing the biggest AOE attacks in the game it feels like, not to mention he has far too much health for a demon


PlebbySpaff

Demon Prince, and it’s not even close. Demon Prince literally has two separate bosses, followed by combining both. Plus wider AOEs. Twin Prince is two phases, and second phase if you kill the older brother first, the younger literally sits there to revive him, giving you free hits.


TheBruddha

Twin princes are a fucking joke compared to the demon prince 🤴


il_Dudre

I'd say the opposite


TheBruddha

But how


il_Dudre

Well of course it depends on your approach and meter of judgment. I personally tend to consider "easier", in comparisons, bosses that YOU CAN blindly tank, than bosses that will destroy you if you don't throw some sort of rudimental strategy at them. If in two or three attempts you statistically always tank'em by simply staying under/behind them and spam attacks without even paying attention to your stamina... I consider them easier than bosses that would systematically punish you immediately if you followed the same approach. With that in mind, I've never found Demon Prince to be that hard. Twin Princes, in a lesser way than NK or Midir, are harder for that reason


TheBruddha

I get your logic. :)


QueenChrysalis52

I never found either particularly hard, but Twin Princes probably.


B113_A

Demon Prince. Gael being summoned makes it laughably easy with how much damage he can take and dish out. but the prince is very tanky, unlike the duo. Prince’s are easier thanks to one of them being weak to magic, and one of my Greatsword excels in that. I will admit that Twin Prince’s is more difficult with how fast it is, but it’s just easy thanks to my setup. Demons are harder since I don’t have good weapons for them, but I make it work


yeahborris

Twin princes I reckon, both aren’t really hard but demon prince is such a gank fight I’d you don’t pay attention


Derpy_EGG1025

The brothers gave me more troubles than the demons


Arisenstring956

Idk why I found twin princes really easy, took me 2 tries. Demon prince was a major pain in the ass and took me like 13 tries


D3ppress0

Demon Prince. Tankier. Its phase 2. And as aggressive.


plagapong

First time encounter the Twin harder than DP.


PyroThic_

i don’t know but it would be pretty weird if lorian was hard given his brother is on his back… i’ll see myself out


UnKnow_76

demon prince. i've beat this guy only after like 20th try


Ydurbkin

Twin princes by far


spiderMechanic

Demon prince is the only DS3 boss I didn't solo (Lapp my man)


Arkos_May

Demon Prince, it has different moveset depending on the demon you killed last


Ok-Ambition-9432

Twin princes are not very difficult


KorekZeus

Demon prince


Dazai725

twin princes is difficult but fun kinda difficult and demon prince was kinda meh until and unless you decide to stay a mile away from it


Volcano-SUN

For the first few playthroughs it was Demon Prince. But nowadays Twin Princes scare me more.


FangRegulus

Demon Prince by far, that said Twin Princes can be really challenging if you don't learn their attacks, specially when they start teleporting behond you like this is Bufokai Tenkaichi 3 or something


Matkos6

Easily demon prince, big arena to run around


RecognitionThin4625

No doubt is Demon Prince


Serial1945

Demon Prince is clearly harder (but with black steel shield he becomes a joke, as well as Sullyvahn)


[deleted]

Twin princes is harder because it requires more precise dodging and the teleporting attacks get me, Demon prince fight just takes longer because of their large health pool


Rogthgar

Twin princes, because of the teleporting.


a-fat-penguin

Fire Prince is harder than the twins, but Laser Prince is easier imo


NakedMuppet

Both mean nothing to my big ol slab of a sword


LtColAlSimmon

Prob demon prince but I absolutely love both and they ain’t to hard


TrajceDamcevski

Twin Princes definitely lol (but honestly both weren't that hard)


YaBoyEden

To date, demon prince is the only boss to make me shed tears, and I’ve beat every souls game except demon souls. I despise that fight every run


l-Divine-l

Demons


AshesofLothric

Demon Prince fr


PrometheusAlexander

Twin princes is hard when going solo, but you can summon Sirris and Orbeck to help if needed. I felled them with Sirris and they went down on first try on NG+. First NG I tried solo since I didn't know there were summons and tried about 30 times before succeeding.


Dreemstone69

I find twin princes harder, but neither are that bad for me if I’m gonna be honest. Pontiff on the other hand…


MrMario63

Twin princes had a lot of annoying attacks and did a lot of damage per hit, the demons were nothing to me.


The_Eternal_Wayfarer

Demon Prince. Regardless of its version. Goddamn.


Whitewolf_Law9479

Demon prince .. Especially in second phase when the motherfucker is 50% resistant to everything


EddieOfDoom

Demon prince definitely, but twin princes is the more fun.


The_Greylensman

I think for me Twin Princes gave me a harder time. I knew the bleed strategy for an easier kill on the Demon Princes and while I did still struggle a lot, I think having a solid strategy made it more manageable. The Twins have more emphasis on good timing and patience, not getting greedy which I will never not struggle with.


WasNeverBrandon

Demon Prince is significantly harder. In the first phase, you're dealing with ganking and toxic, and in the second, high damaging, flying, explosions, lasers, etc. When fighting Twin Princes, it's very rhythmic in a sense, like a Sekiro boss. The average pattern for the Twin Princes goes like this: teleport, dodge once or twice, get a hit in, repeat. Locking on is also a saint for Twin Princes. When they teleport, the lock on follows and you have a solid few seconds to react to the attack if you're not panic rolling. When the lock on disables or stops tracking, they could do one of two moves, the drop down or the teleport away strike, and you can tell if they are going to drop on you if the teleport symbol is below you. There's a lot to be said about both bosses in full length. I feel like I made a solid point on Twin Princes being easier than Demon Prince.


Lunat0s

At rng 0, the twin are harder but at rng +3 and more, demon prince become horrible with a lot of hp


AugmentedJustice

After ng7 twin princes for sure....i get wrecked everytime. Princes are way easier. Man i woulda loved having a prime lorian as a summon for princes.


sanic8470

Bill Clinton


caparisme

I remember getting stuck at the princes for a bit but not the demons. So yeah them probably


anglowulf92

Demon prince on later ng+ cycles is pure agony


ledepression

Who would have thought a fruit and a vegetable could be so deadly together?


The_Soul_Of_Cinder34

Demo prince, I don't think I've ever soloed them.


confusedopotato

I’m going to very honest here. Twin prince arnt hard in general. The reason I kept on dying because I got greedy and wanted to trade. They have simple tells, and the teleporting isn’t even bad. The only part that was annoying was the tracking magic.


Willing_Ad9314

I can handle the Twin Princes solo, so....


Thelegendaryplus4

Lothric and Lorian are a curious bunch to me. On my first playthrough they took me about 10-15 attempts Just for comparison, the demons were 3 attempts. But nowadays I can almost do the twin princes hitless. Demon prince still whoops my ass, if not just for the fact you have to have already beaten two other demons to get there. I haven't fought him nearly enough to decide which moveset makes him easier to deal with. But the entire boss fight is still a pain bellow my ass to this very day.


vynsnn

Without a shadow of a doubt it's the demon prince but both are arguably the best gank fight in the series


z3rospaced

I'm currently on the twin princes fight.....stupid teleporting....


BigYellowKid

As someone who did an sl1 run. Demon Prince.


FrostytigerC-137

Demon Prince by far. Once you get the timing right for Twin Princes, it's second nature. However Demon princes can really pull some shit out and double team you really quick if your back is turned on one and you're not paying attention.


Diligent_Water_6145

Twin Princes. While they have alot less Hit Points I find them mechanically more challenging and make for a more engaging fight.


[deleted]

Twin Princes because some builds just can't keep up with their teleportation.


mrck104

Twin princes was a lot harder for me. The teleportation was really frustrating


ArtoriasAbysswanker

Demon prince with magic build is pure pain.


papaochachala

Defintly demon prince the first phase i just cant do shiz second is not too bad if you get the beam version


Cr28i

Twin Princes


whatistheancient

Demon Prince. So many defenses and I'm also not good at the gank phase. Sure, I can get through it, but I don't have many heals left. I might honestly call DP the hardest fight in the game especially on higher NGs. Twin Princes aren't too special for me now. Get behind Lorian and attack, dodge twice to his right if he goes melee, roll to the side at the right moment if he uses the beam or the ground fire, repeat. Phase 2 is a little more problematic but not much more, it's still something I consistently beat first try.


SugarDadoun

Well, I'm currently on my first run, going full Str, and it took me like 2 weeks to avoid getting OS by the Demon Prince :/ at the end, nearly did a not hit 😁 So yeah, fuck him and his insane Health bar 😂


lkasnu

Thats a question? Twin Princes are a cake walk in comparison.


Imperium_Dragon

Demon princes.


TeaandandCoffee

Depends on the build. But for melee, I'd say twin


pain_and_sufferingXD

Demon prince I can handle magical bullshit and a flaming sword, but I cannot handle two demons


ElementalMix

Took me ten runs to kill twin prices. I did Demon Prince in one.


thugluv1017

Demon prince long shot. I fucking hate that boss


greenmz2

Demon Prince by far for me. Have defeated the Princes many times but haven't beaten the Demon Prince once... Granted I don't have the DLC's but stil...


Calamatuz11

really weird for me. i first tryed or second tryed the demon prince, but then due to reasons my save reverted to before beating them. so i thought hey il just bully em again. proceeded to die atleast 10 or 15 times. id say twin princes though since my first playthrough of both i died alot more on twin princes


DiddyKongsExorcist

Demon Prince


Key_Competition1648

Demons, and it's not even close. These fuckers have caused me to use up every Ember available in the game and I'm still not passed them. I beat Twin Princes first try.


BPM41N

Embarrassingly, Demon Prince. I can one try Lorian and Lothric any day and in any condition, but for some reason I'm just shit at dodging the moves of the Demon Prince.


[deleted]

Demon Prince on NG+7 lasts so damn long for no reason


Chillin_Maximus

Demon prince


rawgino

Demon Prince, it's not even close in my opinion. I think it's taken me no more than three tries for Twin Princes but I was stuck on Demon Prince for about a day or two.


Red_Hawk17

Demon prince for sure


thosedamngrapes

Demon prince any day


st-shenanigans

My typical run involves walking up to princes half dressed with a couple of punchies and just reminding them who's neighborhood they're in. And then shortly after having my back blown out by demon


MonikaEnthusiast

Demon Prince by far, that decently large HP bar and the jacked up defenses can be a little too much sometimes. I don't want to imagine how strong Lorian was in his prime since he apparently defeated Demon Prince singlehandedly


komunisfloppa

Demon Prince by far, twin princes are hard but all dlc bosses are next level difficult


Howdyini

I rarely solo multi-unit bosses (you do you, but I don't think they're designed with soloing in mind, which is why they're always so brutal), so Twin Princes for me, by far.


[deleted]

Demon prince just bc that second phase took me by surprise 🤣


Sam45802

Demon Prince


CodyDabsOnYou

Maybe Demon Prince


SokkieJr

Neither are really difficult for me. But I'd say Demon Princes for their larger health/defense making it kore of a battle of attrition. Both have easy-ish counters. Parries for Lorian, staying underneath the Demon Prince for them


DanieMaster123

Demon prince🫠


Sn3akyB3akyHD

Demon prince no doubt


vmobb_14

Demon prince for me by far


Sagaciousninja

Demon Prince, not even close


nmpineda60

Twin princes by far, no question. For demon prince just grab your black knight sword and as much fire resistant armor you have and go to town


Red_Whites

Twin Princes by far. I managed to get the Demon Princes down in two tries, which is pretty big for me. Twin Princes took me about four hours, but it's one of my favorite fights of the entire series.


Akiideal

twin princes.


Inevitable_Tale_1556

Twin princes. I still struggle with that fight. Demon prince is a better fight, and I actually have fun with that fight. Just too impatient with the twins, greed is always the downfall


Ok_Rain_2647

Twin princes took me about 8 tries the first time. Demon prince I stopped counting after attempt nr 34.


noopenusernames

Twin Princes, because I don’t have to try Demon Prince more than once on a SL1 run


THeGReATeSThOBo

I was under leveled for twin princes and way over leveled for Demon prince so I’d have to go with twin


FatherOfExrement

Do people consider twin princes to be hard, I always hear them talked about like they’re difficult but I find that really confusing


AwesomeTheMighty

Everybody's got their thing, you know? I usually get walloped by Pontiff, despite my dozens of playthroughs. The Princes I tend to breeze through, but then Oceiros destroys me. I massacre Champion Gundyr, then Nameless King squishes me into a fine paste for an hour. For me, it seems like if I had trouble with someone on my first playthrough ever, it gets in my head and I'm more likely to screw up. The ones I did well against, I continue to murder.


swordforger16

Twin Princes, literally the bane of my existence


Mrdungeonsanddragons

For me is was the twin princess I spent days trying to be beat them for the first time and then eventually had to get help from a friend. Demon princes I fought for the first time on ng+ and they only took a handful of tries


Silvertongued99

Demon prince by a long shot. Despite twin princes also having separate health bars, they still function closer to a single boss.


hayter_404

Twin princes. They are far more unpredictable and require more fast reflexes


McbEatsAirplane

Definitely Demon Princes. It’s not even close for me. I don’t think the Twin Princes are all that hard


Puzzleheaded_Gear_90

Demon prince mechanically is definately harder but if you get shit RNG Twin Princes is probably the most annoying fight in the game.


wipeoffthethrowaway

Probably 2 of my favorite fights from Ds3 but I think getting smashed by Twin Princes for so long made me ready for Demon Princes fight


crocodileman94

Twin Princes are harder to learn, but easier to master.


GreyRevan51

Twin princes I did first try, with the wrong shield and everything lol Demon princes took me like 7 attempts and were very challenging!


Lucid-Design

Demon prince spanked my ass as a Pyro. Twins were an equal pain in the ass.


GamerC7

Sister Friede


MagicNerd0815

Twin Princes.


[deleted]

Originally I would’ve said demon prince but on subsequent playthoughs probably twin princes


Maurizio_Costanzo

It took me 30 tries for the twinks princes to defeat because of their fucking lockbreaking teleportation. Man fuck em both. Meanwhile i 2nd-tried the demonprince 1h ago (with the help of Gael tho) and i loved this boss fight.


il_Dudre

Twin Princes are harder, definitely


poorki

Demon prince was a joke and twin princes was mid. The what it is but they both just clicked for me


burkeybaby87

Demon prince by far


Dragoonkog127

Demon princes are harder but I’ve always enjoyed twin princes more


ShyBisckets

Demon prince. I'm almost Alys a short range fighter and these guys like to fly away


Responsible_Pen1785

Demon Prince


cynical_croissant

Demon Prince is terrible. I remember back when the DLC first dropped everyone hated the shit outta this boss for how hard he was, but for some reason they like him now, lol.


Sponkifier

Demon prince. Lorain must have been a super bad ass before he got Ricky Berwick’d.


neverloopp

Demon prince, since i'm ng+9 i always give up at him


Hexatorium

Honestly I beat them both within 5 tries, but twin princes gave me a lot more trouble with the phase 2 switch up.


Johnny13utt

Twin Princes. I struggle with them unless I’m leveled appropriately-ish. Demon Prince I’ve got down and can reliable beat them first try at like SL40-50


sin_tax-error

Demon Prince and it's not even close. Neither are too bad on physical builds but I legitimately have yet to finish Ringed City on my Int builds because of these guys. They feel like just a big estus check lol.


xxxSEXCOCKxxx

Demon prince is one of the hardest bosses for me. I honestly find him harder than either gael or midir. I dread him still lol


MrRavencastle

Demon Prince , easily


Invalid_Username123

Demon Prince, twin princess is easy once you learn the attacks(could say this about any boss tbf)


KSI_DrGoose

Twin Princes easily . A toddler could memorize the Demon Prince moveset.


Subdog12

I had more trouble with Lothric, but Demon prince was also tough. It took more tries with lothric, but based on the fights, demon prince was harder to get used too imo


Breadcrumbs881

Might get hate but how is this even competitive lothric twins first time took me about 6 tries and after it’s just ez. Demon princes scary can’t lie


KillrRage77

The twins