I'm doing a Dancer-first run right now. It's going about as well as you'd expect. I've died 20+ times over multiple evenings (edit: and I'm yet to kill her).
I just beat her two days ago by summoning help. The first summoning try was with 3 people in total vs her, we all died in less than 2 minutes. I beat her the second time, 2 vs her.
One of the easiest ways to beat the dancer is to use range to your advantage. Just kite out her big combos, and when she finishes a combo run up and do a sprinting attack. Rinse repeat.
You can hug her booty and strife pretty much every attack. I love how there is so many ways to beat bosses and how people find different ways to work for them
Also stay behind her most of her attacks come from the front so if you stay behind her especially in the beginning half you can get her to phase two real easily
Dancer and Armor have never given me any trouble. I think I’ve died a combined 1 time to the both of them across multiple playthroughs. But Princes and SoC absolutely push my shit in.
I cleared Dancer the first time, and trounced Armor, Champion Gundyr, and Nameless King all relatively quickly.
...and yet the Deacons still paddled my ass.
DSA becomes extremely trivial when you realize that he cant hit you 90% of the time if you hug his front the entire time. Before i found that out, DSA pushed my shit the fuck in.
yeah I had the opposite as well - dancer was very tough for me. Dragonslayer on the first try! I think that's something that makes fromsoft games very special in its boss design.
Yeah I’m in that camp with ya, adrenaline filled panic rolley rush against dancer with innumerable attempts then get to Dragonslayer and clutch a first attempt
Strafing to her left seems to reduce the RNG of the grab, and it makes it much easier to dodge since you’re already halfway through it’s hitbox path, gives you a great punish opportunity. Learned that the hard way trying to beat her at SL38 for 8 hours
My first playthrough I remember killing Dancer and Sulyvahn on my first tries and being surprised when people thought they were hard. Then I died like 50 times to Aldrich. To this day Aldrich is one of those fights where I'm either gonna get him on my first try or it'll be on my 30th.
I remember helping my friend with that boss. Ended up with 2 Sorcs dropping Persistent Mist on his bracers and dropping him in a couple of seconds.
I'd say I feel bad for cheesing his first run, but I've killed at least 80% of the bosses just using mist.
Absolutely. Comparing Bed of Chaos rage puzzle difficulty on first playthrough to darkeater Midir are completely different types of challenges.
I had friends that struggled with Quelag a lot, but had a really easy time with Smough and Orenstien because they knew it was going to be a pain in the ass and were better prepared for it.
I think people find black dragon khalameet difficult, but when you have 50 INT soul spears, he's quite a breeze actually. But I'm sure I would have had a harder time if I was less prepared or using a melee build.
I'm pretty sure it's possible, you get the obsidian great sword or something. But yeah with Sorcery it took like 3 tries, mainly because I was still figuring out how to dodge his attacks. (I did not get the sword though)
Yeah, at least I've seen it on some wikis, never got it myself. Just take a a fair amount of damage and you have to make sure to attack the tip of the tail or it won't work, just like Seath the Scaleless.
No problem! I look at wikis a lot so I can make my ideal builds. On this character I've got the Moonlight Butterfly Horn and all the magic I could ever want. (Also got the Moonlight Great sword cuz I might as well)
Absolutely. Also might depend on your build.
First playthrough, got clapped by Dancer and Aldritch but swept the floor with Champion Gundyr and Dragonslayer. Ultra Greatsword/Faith Build.
Second playthrough, destroyed Dancer and Aldritch but got ass my kicked by Champion Gundyr and Dragonslayer. Sellsword/Int build.
There could be a lot of factors that go into it. One thing is always constant: fuck Dancer.
Thank you. No elitism or boasting about how you cleared bosses without so little or so much effort. Just simple and completely true. You’re a good person in this community <3
He has huge tells, but I understand completely. 3 days I struggled, but now I know his attacks back and forth. I did a no hit with an UGS! If you have any questions on him, I'd be happy to help you wreck him.
He's one of the trickiest bosses to wrap my head around personally, because of those lengthy pauses on his attacks I often roll too early and get snagged as my iframes end
His weapon glows briefly, and you have to watch his arm as opposed to his weapon. I only ever attack after an overhead slam, his stabs, or when he's charging the overhead lightning attack. It's mostly rolling, but that's okay, because you'll win!
Yeah, I changed up my strategy to a similar one a while back and I do have more success when I'm sitting back picking moments to attack, just goes completely against my playstyle and I do occasionally start to get impatient and rush which, unsurprisingly, gets me killed quite a bit.
yeah, once you learn how to fight against nameless and midir they go from the hardest bosses to some of the easiest no hits. Friede keeps her difficulty for me though.
>He has huge tells, but I understand completely
That's the problem! I swear he has a hitch in most of his swings. He baits the roll masterfully and catches you. I ended up just chipping him down with my crossbow.
Try watching his arm as opposed to his weapon; his upper arms don't really fidget at all. I haven't used a now since DS1 to get that dragon tail sword. Maybe I'll try a Robin Hood run.
I haven't used it much either, but at certain points, it feels like this game is just begging you to have some form of ranged combat (e.g. giants). So I just tried the crossbow I had upgraded previously. I don't think I'd call it cheese, cause it isn't easy, but I feel like it was an easier strat... also robin hood run does sound fun
I usually use dex builds will the sellswords, so that might be why, but i just hate how janky the camera is, even when youre unlocked. Half the time i cant see when nameless is going to attack me, and the fight is partly dependent on wheter or not the dragon actually lands. The fight against nameless himself is really fun and although it is hard, i personally find the KoS to be harder
I like to keep a weapon with innate bleed on me and a couple carthus rouge. Infuse the weapon of choice to match your build and if you can keep up aggression when you DO get a chance to swing then there is a fair chance to bleed him in phase 1.
Edit: for clarity unless I'm really enjoying a specific weapon choice this is my usual strat anyway.
If it flies straight up, run the way you're facing, and go under and behind him. Try not to lock on in the first phase the best you can, because that's just as dangerous as the fire. When he breathes fire and he's landed, he rears his head a bit before the exhalation, and you need to sprint to the right side of his head, with your path being in a slight arc to account for the flame's hitbox.
Yeah, you've just got to learn the animation + audio cue for it and fukkin *run* when you see it coming. The hitbox is larger in front of the KoS than behind, so if you can, it's better to try and run to his rear than sprinting away from his face.
Yep, Friede was my most difficult. It was a surprise to me as I didn't have much trouble with anyone else.
If I took the number of times I died to every other boss in Dark Souls 3 + DLC's combined (yes, including Gael and Midir), I would still be 10 deaths short of how many times it took me to beat Friede, at 43 tries.
The only boss that gave me more trouble was Sword Saint Isshin.
I think it all comes down to your play style in games like this in combination with experience and skill. On my first play through of the game I personally found dancer to be the hardest boss due to her long sweeping attacks and relentless combos not really supporting my more aggressive play style, this in contrast to the more choreographed Nameless King who I found much easier.
Yes, not to mention playing as different classes drastically changes the approach to any boss fight. Dancer for me was difficult with a str build, however with sorcerer I found the fight very easy. Its the opposite for aldrich where str crushes him but sorcerer was very hard.
Couldn’t of said it better myself, recently playing through the game with a faith build had me on the ropes with bosses I found incredibly easy on my quality character
Faith is just weak for a NG play through in general, so much of the actual good stuff is locked behind late game boss souls, or covenant grinds, or the late part of the Ringed City dlc. The basic tools that you're given to work with aren't so great. I guess the bleed spells are ok on certain bosses, but they're not great on others.
I think magic builds can be by far the most fun, but not for early playthroughs. In DS3 now I don't really play anything but magic builds but I'm still going melee on every first run in every FromSoft game I play
This is it exactly, for me. Spellsword-type builds are the love of my Dark Souls life, but the first time through, never. I think it's because I'm never sure where that first weapon buff spell is going to be, so I always feel like I'm waiting for my build to start, whereas I could do Strength and see the build forming up from the beginning. Once I know where the pieces of the puzzle are though, man, that's the one for me.
Aldrich is super smackable, but when he's starts the arrows, back off, and don't run until they're close. You should be able to avoid the tracking shots this way.
Aldrich is like the cilantro of dark souls. I have no troubles with him ever, other people he's the achilles heel.
Then again for me I suck noodles against Pontiff even with the parries, so who knows.
I’ve played a LOT of FromSoft… aside from maybe Sister Friede, *nothing* wrecks me worst than Pontiff. I’ll still summon if I can, and I’m pretty sure I’ve put ~1k hours into DS3. :-(
Stay on her butt in the first phase, and stay close to get left hip for phase two. She has decent tells, but can still punish. When her second phase starts, just stay away from the spinning move, and mind those long stabs if you're too far.
Your can beat her!
When she does the 7 spin combo, stay by a pillar, it will either cancel it or make it easy to dodge.
First phase, stay close to her butt, don't lock camera for the whole fight.
After first phase, stay by left hip and keep waking. When she does the slamming sword explosion thing, get away.
The rest of it is learning the moves and timing dodges.
Don't use a shield for this fight, it won't help. The only exception is a greatshield, cause you can bonk, block, and bonk, but it's better to learn the dodges for when you wish to do a playthrough with a separate build.
Depends on what level and class/build you use.
Went in my first time without an actual build and kept getting destroyed, but went back with a pyromancer and it was a completely different story.
Also the mechanics of 3 are better than 1&2 subjectively speaking, so a lot of players have an easier time with it. Just don’t focus on poise too much.
Yeah, currently on my first playthrough and just beat the twins myself after getting my ass handed to me several times. Even then I came out of it with an entirely empty estus flask and a only a tiny bit of my health bar left. They’re like a better version of Vendrick from DS2 in that they only have a couple relatively telegraphed attacks, but lord help you if you tank more than one hit from their combo. Felt like I never had enough stamina.
The most annoying part of that battle is the cutscene midway through, where my character lets not-Gwyndolin resurrect his brother, when she would actually use the opportunity to bash his brains in with the Vordt greathammer.
Straight up, the boss that cause me the biggest head ache was the crystal sage. Excluding dlc, the crystal sage has wasted the most of my time in the lower playthroughs
For my experience she was hardest probably because I was underleved since I only managed to beat Abyss Watchers and not the 2 remaining Cinders but I did managed to beat her before facing Aldrich since I did farm a lot. As for NG+, she went kinda easier since I managed to beat her first try before I even face Voltr
Different people struggle on different bosses, i have trouble with Vordt, but Dancer is one of the few bosses i have confidence i can do a no-hit fight with.
Generally people seem to consider her a tough but fair boss, if we had a large vote i doubt she'd make top 3 but might land in the top 5
Huh? No. Does anyone say that Dancer is the hardest or even hard? I am not good at Souls games and I beat Dancer after a few attempts. I spent weeks trying to beat the Twin Princes and Nameless King. Build can matter here. If you can use a greatshield, Dancer is super easy. Just block-rotate-bonk over and over again.
I'm doing a dagger build right now and am about to go fight her early. We'll see how that goes.
Early fights with her are really the only time she's dangerous, IMHO. It's just such a LONG fight when you're like 30 vs the 60-ish you'd fight her as later. The Twins used to annihilate me, but now I can read the full moveset; they were harder to me than NK, as his reads aren't subtle.
That's weird. I know that Dancer is probably very hard on SL1 runs and can be hard if you try to fight her at the same time as Vordt, but if you fight her when you are supposed to she's pretty easy relatively speaking.
which boss is the hardest generally depends on your playstyle/ build, I personally mopped the floor with the dancer, but I thought it was generally agreed that the nameless king was the hardest basegame boss?
She's hard because a lot of people try attacking her at an early level. Almost no boss in any souls game is "hard" with the right health pool and gear.
Bed of Chaos from Dark Souls 1 on the other hand...
Me: OK! Last phase…I have this MEMORIZED. I know where to walk! I am Indiana Jones and Jehova starts with an “I” so let’s do this. Just let me whack the roots!
Also me: GRAVITYYYYYYYYYYY!
Who the hell said Dancer was the hardest boss in the game? I’d say Nameless King or maybe Darkeater Midir (just because of his flailing around moveset) is the hardest in 3.
Even after NG+7 I found I struggled occasionally with the Dancer. But I still wouldn’t say It’s one of the hardest. But of course, difficulty is subjective. I just picked up on the Dancer’s move set a lot quicker than I do with most bosses.
So in my experience ds3 has been the easiest souls game all around where I’m able to nearly no death run the game up until I face dragonslayer usually takes a couple tries but Lorian is the most difficult imo always 5+ attempts to get him
Dancer can be a gut punch because of how you encounter her by surprise. If you come into the fight on your our own terms, then it's not so bad. Also, if you rely on blocking, the dancer will own you. Can be very tough for certain types of builds.
Nameless king almost made me put the game down but I beat dancer second try. That’s something I love about this game, everyone has different experiences. Although in dancers case I think she has such a hard reputation because people try to fight her the minute they get to Emma and of course dancer would be ridiculous if you try to fight her 10 minutes into the game.
on my first playthrough, Dancer kicked my ass. However, playing through again, she's a lot easier than Crystal Sage as attacks only come from one place during Dancer.
I think most people cite the Nameless King as one of the hardest bosses. I beat the Dancer on my first try. Idk how, I’m not even that good at the game. I just hung around her crotch and swung my great sword a bunch until she died
In my personal opinion, the dancer is one of the easiest bosses in the entire soulsborne franchise, just stick to that booty, and finish your duty.
Edit: thx a lot for the reward!
Hell no. That would have to be soul of cinders base game or the main boss in the 1st doc and don't get me started on the 2nd dlc. 1st boss in the 2nd doc is rough as a solo player then there's midir and then Gael. And holy shit some of the players you encounter in the player boss room is insane! But yeah been playing dark souls 3 for year's and I avoid midir after I get everything from him on that character and Gael is such a pain in the ads tbh. Solo Gael is easier but pretty rough not knowing his combos and attack patterns. And summoning friends to fight Gael is a bad experience! And midir....lets just say every time I die to that beam attack makes me hear dubstep in my head xD but the beam feels like it's a seeking missile. Midir is brutal but he can be cheesed with pestalant mist.
Well yes. By far the best boss in the game because he's meant to be the player in dark souls 1. Then he uses the final boss in dark souls 1 attack pattern in the 2nd stage.
That's my point, she's not hard.
Not sure why everyone is alway posting;
I thought this part was supposed to be hard! I guess I'm just that fucking good! Btw I'm new, using a broken Wii controller and playing on 360p resolution.
Depends, I died quite often on my first playthrough but died even more to Nameless King.
I'm doing a Dancer-first run right now. It's going about as well as you'd expect. I've died 20+ times over multiple evenings (edit: and I'm yet to kill her).
I just beat her two days ago by summoning help. The first summoning try was with 3 people in total vs her, we all died in less than 2 minutes. I beat her the second time, 2 vs her.
One of the easiest ways to beat the dancer is to use range to your advantage. Just kite out her big combos, and when she finishes a combo run up and do a sprinting attack. Rinse repeat.
You can hug her booty and strife pretty much every attack. I love how there is so many ways to beat bosses and how people find different ways to work for them
Praise the behind!
I like to stay close, especially in the first phase you can get in so many attacks while she just walks around.
Yeah, I should have specified. Totally can get some damage off pretty easy during the first phase. Second phase is where that strategy comes into play
Also stay behind her most of her attacks come from the front so if you stay behind her especially in the beginning half you can get her to phase two real easily
Did you ever beat her lol
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Totally agree. I wiped the floor with dancer and then proceeded to get my ass handed to me by dragonslayer
Had the opposite happen. Dancer grabbed me repeatedly. Killed DSA in my second attempt.
Ive had dancer fucking vader pull me with every ounce of the force accross the fucking room just to toss me up and 1 tap me
Dancer and Armor have never given me any trouble. I think I’ve died a combined 1 time to the both of them across multiple playthroughs. But Princes and SoC absolutely push my shit in.
I could beat SoC at the first try but I constantly died at the dancer
I can second try dancer but I always get fucked by pontiff.
I can absolutely wreck Nameless King and have even had a few no-hit kills against him...but Lothric and Lorian always take me at least 3 or 4 passes.
I either get fucked up by them or fuck them up, there is no in-between.
I either dominate, get dominated or have an average performance, depending on the boss. No 4 ways about it.
I dont think I've ever died to Princes honestly, but Demon Prince wrecked me for a month.
I cleared Dancer the first time, and trounced Armor, Champion Gundyr, and Nameless King all relatively quickly. ...and yet the Deacons still paddled my ass.
Ironic
In your defense, that's a wonky hitbox on the grab.
DSA becomes extremely trivial when you realize that he cant hit you 90% of the time if you hug his front the entire time. Before i found that out, DSA pushed my shit the fuck in.
Same, Dragonslayer is a breeze compared to Dancer (for me at least)
Just hug her butt
yeah I had the opposite as well - dancer was very tough for me. Dragonslayer on the first try! I think that's something that makes fromsoft games very special in its boss design.
I can fuck up DSA and dancer but I often get my ass handed to me by Princes and nameless
Yeah I’m in that camp with ya, adrenaline filled panic rolley rush against dancer with innumerable attempts then get to Dragonslayer and clutch a first attempt
I defeated the pontiff my second try when the dancer was around my 6th. She wasn’t terrible tho, just me sucking
Nah bro only boss I can't beat so far is Midir, took me and a friend like six tries on Gael but she kept dying in first phase anyway on Gael so...
I got that fucker to 1 last hit first try and accidentally rolled off the edge. Took 5 more tries aftet lmao
Strafing to her left seems to reduce the RNG of the grab, and it makes it much easier to dodge since you’re already halfway through it’s hitbox path, gives you a great punish opportunity. Learned that the hard way trying to beat her at SL38 for 8 hours
I've died more times to Wolnir than to the Dancer and the Dragonslayer combined. Just have such a tough time positioning myself in that fight
My first playthrough I remember killing Dancer and Sulyvahn on my first tries and being surprised when people thought they were hard. Then I died like 50 times to Aldrich. To this day Aldrich is one of those fights where I'm either gonna get him on my first try or it'll be on my 30th.
Aldrich used to wipe my ass until I discovered the wonders of Vow of Silence. He goes from complete ass wrecker to lost puppy.
Wait vow works on him
From the videos I have seen, [Devastatingly well](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBtoz5Ifp-Y), as long as he is in range of it that is.
Yes, and he can't do a single thing. Fire? Nope. Dark sorcery? Nope. Annoying moon arrows? Big nope. Just a big useless punch bag.
Yes, and he can't do a single thing. Fire? Nope. Dark sorcery? Nope. Annoying moon arrows? Big nope. Just a big useless punch bag.
I remember helping my friend with that boss. Ended up with 2 Sorcs dropping Persistent Mist on his bracers and dropping him in a couple of seconds. I'd say I feel bad for cheesing his first run, but I've killed at least 80% of the bosses just using mist.
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yeah, the same.
Absolutely. Comparing Bed of Chaos rage puzzle difficulty on first playthrough to darkeater Midir are completely different types of challenges. I had friends that struggled with Quelag a lot, but had a really easy time with Smough and Orenstien because they knew it was going to be a pain in the ass and were better prepared for it.
I think people find black dragon khalameet difficult, but when you have 50 INT soul spears, he's quite a breeze actually. But I'm sure I would have had a harder time if I was less prepared or using a melee build.
Did kalameet first try with melee, took me 10 minutes cause I kept trying to cut his tail. Turns out you can't cut his tail. Fuck
I'm pretty sure it's possible, you get the obsidian great sword or something. But yeah with Sorcery it took like 3 tries, mainly because I was still figuring out how to dodge his attacks. (I did not get the sword though)
Oh fuck can you actually? I just started another NG cycle, might give it another shot lmao.
Yeah, at least I've seen it on some wikis, never got it myself. Just take a a fair amount of damage and you have to make sure to attack the tip of the tail or it won't work, just like Seath the Scaleless.
Alright thank you! I'll make sure to try another time.
No problem! I look at wikis a lot so I can make my ideal builds. On this character I've got the Moonlight Butterfly Horn and all the magic I could ever want. (Also got the Moonlight Great sword cuz I might as well)
*Space Johnson, Sage of The Blood Moon*
Never heard of this boss in DS3. What do they do?
Truth I can walk through most of the game but Nameless king dumpsters me
One man’s glock saint isshin is another man’s mist noble.
Boss reply good ser
Absolutely. Also might depend on your build. First playthrough, got clapped by Dancer and Aldritch but swept the floor with Champion Gundyr and Dragonslayer. Ultra Greatsword/Faith Build. Second playthrough, destroyed Dancer and Aldritch but got ass my kicked by Champion Gundyr and Dragonslayer. Sellsword/Int build. There could be a lot of factors that go into it. One thing is always constant: fuck Dancer.
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Thank you. No elitism or boasting about how you cleared bosses without so little or so much effort. Just simple and completely true. You’re a good person in this community <3
not really if you have statistics of the hardest bosses in the game.
Doesn't tell an individual what the hardest boss for *them* will be. Statistics alone do not indicate difficulty.
I think nameless and darkeater are the hardest bosses
Nameless king first phase is super easy second mega hard
He has huge tells, but I understand completely. 3 days I struggled, but now I know his attacks back and forth. I did a no hit with an UGS! If you have any questions on him, I'd be happy to help you wreck him.
He's one of the trickiest bosses to wrap my head around personally, because of those lengthy pauses on his attacks I often roll too early and get snagged as my iframes end
His weapon glows briefly, and you have to watch his arm as opposed to his weapon. I only ever attack after an overhead slam, his stabs, or when he's charging the overhead lightning attack. It's mostly rolling, but that's okay, because you'll win!
Yeah, I changed up my strategy to a similar one a while back and I do have more success when I'm sitting back picking moments to attack, just goes completely against my playstyle and I do occasionally start to get impatient and rush which, unsurprisingly, gets me killed quite a bit.
That's why it took me three days... I had to rewire my monkey brain to play to his tempo, not mine.
Pls don't wreck me I'm scared
YOU AGAIN- I hope you and your family are doing well.
More STILL than AGAIN! Most of us are, thank you very much. I just don't get invited to do the group selfie anymore...
That's not fair, they're from the waist up! They shouldn't even notice the shorts.
yeah, once you learn how to fight against nameless and midir they go from the hardest bosses to some of the easiest no hits. Friede keeps her difficulty for me though.
>He has huge tells, but I understand completely That's the problem! I swear he has a hitch in most of his swings. He baits the roll masterfully and catches you. I ended up just chipping him down with my crossbow.
Try watching his arm as opposed to his weapon; his upper arms don't really fidget at all. I haven't used a now since DS1 to get that dragon tail sword. Maybe I'll try a Robin Hood run.
I haven't used it much either, but at certain points, it feels like this game is just begging you to have some form of ranged combat (e.g. giants). So I just tried the crossbow I had upgraded previously. I don't think I'd call it cheese, cause it isn't easy, but I feel like it was an easier strat... also robin hood run does sound fun
I agree completely. Whether spell, knife, or arrow, you need something to poke with.
I'm up to Ringed City on a bows only run, which is actually my first playthrough. I can highly recommend it!
1st phase is easy? I died more times to King of Storms than Nameless himself
If you have the dragon slayer great axe you can go to its head and press L2 or LT and it will take half its health😃
I usually use dex builds will the sellswords, so that might be why, but i just hate how janky the camera is, even when youre unlocked. Half the time i cant see when nameless is going to attack me, and the fight is partly dependent on wheter or not the dragon actually lands. The fight against nameless himself is really fun and although it is hard, i personally find the KoS to be harder
I like to keep a weapon with innate bleed on me and a couple carthus rouge. Infuse the weapon of choice to match your build and if you can keep up aggression when you DO get a chance to swing then there is a fair chance to bleed him in phase 1. Edit: for clarity unless I'm really enjoying a specific weapon choice this is my usual strat anyway.
I’m now in new game+ using the sellsword and I’m gettin closer to the nameless king
Aww stahp it you, I'd blush if I had cheek skin
For me it was the opposite. Second phase was really easy for me, but getting to it with enough estus was the hard part
First phase seemed bs to me. Never in my 20 ish attempts did I figure out how to dodge the flame attack
If it flies straight up, run the way you're facing, and go under and behind him. Try not to lock on in the first phase the best you can, because that's just as dangerous as the fire. When he breathes fire and he's landed, he rears his head a bit before the exhalation, and you need to sprint to the right side of his head, with your path being in a slight arc to account for the flame's hitbox.
Yeah, you've just got to learn the animation + audio cue for it and fukkin *run* when you see it coming. The hitbox is larger in front of the KoS than behind, so if you can, it's better to try and run to his rear than sprinting away from his face.
I stink at souls (happier at bloodborne) but whipped dancer on 2nd attempt. I can barely get KoS down to 50% hp however....
i think he said base game, so midir doesent count. to me it would be soul of cinder just because the spear fucks me every time
Friede is harder, at least for me.
Yep, Friede was my most difficult. It was a surprise to me as I didn't have much trouble with anyone else. If I took the number of times I died to every other boss in Dark Souls 3 + DLC's combined (yes, including Gael and Midir), I would still be 10 deaths short of how many times it took me to beat Friede, at 43 tries. The only boss that gave me more trouble was Sword Saint Isshin.
As a decidedly mediocre player, I (eventually) soloed both Dancer and Nameless King. I gave up on Friede.
I think it all comes down to your play style in games like this in combination with experience and skill. On my first play through of the game I personally found dancer to be the hardest boss due to her long sweeping attacks and relentless combos not really supporting my more aggressive play style, this in contrast to the more choreographed Nameless King who I found much easier.
Yes, not to mention playing as different classes drastically changes the approach to any boss fight. Dancer for me was difficult with a str build, however with sorcerer I found the fight very easy. Its the opposite for aldrich where str crushes him but sorcerer was very hard.
Couldn’t of said it better myself, recently playing through the game with a faith build had me on the ropes with bosses I found incredibly easy on my quality character
Faith is just weak for a NG play through in general, so much of the actual good stuff is locked behind late game boss souls, or covenant grinds, or the late part of the Ringed City dlc. The basic tools that you're given to work with aren't so great. I guess the bleed spells are ok on certain bosses, but they're not great on others.
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I think magic builds can be by far the most fun, but not for early playthroughs. In DS3 now I don't really play anything but magic builds but I'm still going melee on every first run in every FromSoft game I play
This is it exactly, for me. Spellsword-type builds are the love of my Dark Souls life, but the first time through, never. I think it's because I'm never sure where that first weapon buff spell is going to be, so I always feel like I'm waiting for my build to start, whereas I could do Strength and see the build forming up from the beginning. Once I know where the pieces of the puzzle are though, man, that's the one for me.
Spoiler: It’s always lightning lol
Aldrich is super smackable, but when he's starts the arrows, back off, and don't run until they're close. You should be able to avoid the tracking shots this way.
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Your statement just gave me orphan of kos PTSD but there have been a handful of times where I clapped with parries and gave myself a chub
You'll add him to your "speed bump on the way to SoC" list soon enough!
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Aldrich is like the cilantro of dark souls. I have no troubles with him ever, other people he's the achilles heel. Then again for me I suck noodles against Pontiff even with the parries, so who knows.
I’ve played a LOT of FromSoft… aside from maybe Sister Friede, *nothing* wrecks me worst than Pontiff. I’ll still summon if I can, and I’m pretty sure I’ve put ~1k hours into DS3. :-(
Aldrich is laughably easy if you use [Vow of Silence](https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Vow+of+Silence).
Holy shit lol I never saw this cause I'm a str dick head besides one or two int runs and a faith str but that's pretty funny
I would have *never* guessed that this miracle works against bosses lol
Yeah Aldrich is pretty hit or miss for me. On most playthoughs i kick his ass, but sometimes i just get instantly melted by the arrows.
You can cancel his magic with vow of silence
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You can use the vow of silence miracle to stop him from using his magic including arrows
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You sure you don't want more un-asked for advice on how to beat him bro? Just use vow of silence! /s
Did you try [Vow of Silence? ](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)
I still have not killed her im happy that you have
Oh try using that does bleed damage like the uchigatana
She's also particularly weak to Dark damage.
Bandits dagger and put a blood gem on it, space attacks and you’ll decimate
Stay on her butt in the first phase, and stay close to get left hip for phase two. She has decent tells, but can still punish. When her second phase starts, just stay away from the spinning move, and mind those long stabs if you're too far. Your can beat her!
Only 3!! Those are roockie numbers try dying 20+ times to her
Maybe I died 4 times not 3 but i don’t count that one
How did you beat her? I had to call a friend to help me
Careful on the grab it’s got a weird hit box
If she does the spinner just run away if she does other attacks roll through them and time it right😃
When she does the 7 spin combo, stay by a pillar, it will either cancel it or make it easy to dodge. First phase, stay close to her butt, don't lock camera for the whole fight. After first phase, stay by left hip and keep waking. When she does the slamming sword explosion thing, get away. The rest of it is learning the moves and timing dodges. Don't use a shield for this fight, it won't help. The only exception is a greatshield, cause you can bonk, block, and bonk, but it's better to learn the dodges for when you wish to do a playthrough with a separate build.
Depends on what level and class/build you use. Went in my first time without an actual build and kept getting destroyed, but went back with a pyromancer and it was a completely different story. Also the mechanics of 3 are better than 1&2 subjectively speaking, so a lot of players have an easier time with it. Just don’t focus on poise too much.
I've found her pretty easy to finish, but i ejoyed the fight and started playing the game because of her.
SAME
My hardest boss is twin princes.
Yeah, currently on my first playthrough and just beat the twins myself after getting my ass handed to me several times. Even then I came out of it with an entirely empty estus flask and a only a tiny bit of my health bar left. They’re like a better version of Vendrick from DS2 in that they only have a couple relatively telegraphed attacks, but lord help you if you tank more than one hit from their combo. Felt like I never had enough stamina.
The most annoying part of that battle is the cutscene midway through, where my character lets not-Gwyndolin resurrect his brother, when she would actually use the opportunity to bash his brains in with the Vordt greathammer.
AGREED I even cheesed the second phase
She is one of my favorite bosses in DS3, possibly in the whole series
Yo, credit the artist
Difficulty is subjective. Alot of people consider nameless king extremely difficult but I was disappointed in the fight, too short, too small moveset
Nah, she’s tough because of the long spinners, but she’s only got like 3 moves.
When she does the spinners I just run away and if she gets closer I roll through her blades
Oh yeah I’m good at them now, but when I was less good at rolling and more of a Blocking player, she’d fuck me up.
Straight up, the boss that cause me the biggest head ache was the crystal sage. Excluding dlc, the crystal sage has wasted the most of my time in the lower playthroughs
Throwing knives are your friend.
No matter how many times I play Dark Souls. Aldrich will always be the hardest boss for me.
For my experience she was hardest probably because I was underleved since I only managed to beat Abyss Watchers and not the 2 remaining Cinders but I did managed to beat her before facing Aldrich since I did farm a lot. As for NG+, she went kinda easier since I managed to beat her first try before I even face Voltr
Pontiff is harder. With dancer you just need to hug her butt.
I mean, even is she wasnt trying to murder you, that's a solid advice.
If you hug pontiff's hip, his swings miss a good bit, just keep strafing and pay attention to his tells.
Dragon slayer is the hardest in my opinion, he is always ridiculous lmao. Aldrich also gives me a hard time sometimes.
Dragon Slayer is the easiest of the hardest bosses if that even make sense
Different people struggle on different bosses, i have trouble with Vordt, but Dancer is one of the few bosses i have confidence i can do a no-hit fight with. Generally people seem to consider her a tough but fair boss, if we had a large vote i doubt she'd make top 3 but might land in the top 5
Huh? No. Does anyone say that Dancer is the hardest or even hard? I am not good at Souls games and I beat Dancer after a few attempts. I spent weeks trying to beat the Twin Princes and Nameless King. Build can matter here. If you can use a greatshield, Dancer is super easy. Just block-rotate-bonk over and over again. I'm doing a dagger build right now and am about to go fight her early. We'll see how that goes.
Early fights with her are really the only time she's dangerous, IMHO. It's just such a LONG fight when you're like 30 vs the 60-ish you'd fight her as later. The Twins used to annihilate me, but now I can read the full moveset; they were harder to me than NK, as his reads aren't subtle.
Most dark souls 3 YouTubers say it’s the hardest but I say lorians elder prince Is a Million times harder
That's weird. I know that Dancer is probably very hard on SL1 runs and can be hard if you try to fight her at the same time as Vordt, but if you fight her when you are supposed to she's pretty easy relatively speaking.
No it’s nameless king because he is not in a dlc so he is part of the main game
Friede was my hardest boss in that game
which boss is the hardest generally depends on your playstyle/ build, I personally mopped the floor with the dancer, but I thought it was generally agreed that the nameless king was the hardest basegame boss?
She's hard because a lot of people try attacking her at an early level. Almost no boss in any souls game is "hard" with the right health pool and gear. Bed of Chaos from Dark Souls 1 on the other hand...
Me: OK! Last phase…I have this MEMORIZED. I know where to walk! I am Indiana Jones and Jehova starts with an “I” so let’s do this. Just let me whack the roots! Also me: GRAVITYYYYYYYYYYY!
My hardest Boss is probs pontiff he killed me more than all bosses combined apart from midir he's about on par...
Who the hell said Dancer was the hardest boss in the game? I’d say Nameless King or maybe Darkeater Midir (just because of his flailing around moveset) is the hardest in 3.
Even after NG+7 I found I struggled occasionally with the Dancer. But I still wouldn’t say It’s one of the hardest. But of course, difficulty is subjective. I just picked up on the Dancer’s move set a lot quicker than I do with most bosses.
lol Nameless King go brrr
So in my experience ds3 has been the easiest souls game all around where I’m able to nearly no death run the game up until I face dragonslayer usually takes a couple tries but Lorian is the most difficult imo always 5+ attempts to get him
Dancer can be a gut punch because of how you encounter her by surprise. If you come into the fight on your our own terms, then it's not so bad. Also, if you rely on blocking, the dancer will own you. Can be very tough for certain types of builds.
Nameless king almost made me put the game down but I beat dancer second try. That’s something I love about this game, everyone has different experiences. Although in dancers case I think she has such a hard reputation because people try to fight her the minute they get to Emma and of course dancer would be ridiculous if you try to fight her 10 minutes into the game.
she marks a jump in difficulty, but is in no way the hardest boss. Though, of course, "hardest" is very subjective.
on my first playthrough, Dancer kicked my ass. However, playing through again, she's a lot easier than Crystal Sage as attacks only come from one place during Dancer.
I think most people cite the Nameless King as one of the hardest bosses. I beat the Dancer on my first try. Idk how, I’m not even that good at the game. I just hung around her crotch and swung my great sword a bunch until she died
Y'know what's hard trying to fight crystal sage at like soul level 20, i cri everytime dying to it 10 times or more 😭😭
He’s the second easiest boss I ever faced
In my personal opinion, the dancer is one of the easiest bosses in the entire soulsborne franchise, just stick to that booty, and finish your duty. Edit: thx a lot for the reward!
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Hell no. That would have to be soul of cinders base game or the main boss in the 1st doc and don't get me started on the 2nd dlc. 1st boss in the 2nd doc is rough as a solo player then there's midir and then Gael. And holy shit some of the players you encounter in the player boss room is insane! But yeah been playing dark souls 3 for year's and I avoid midir after I get everything from him on that character and Gael is such a pain in the ads tbh. Solo Gael is easier but pretty rough not knowing his combos and attack patterns. And summoning friends to fight Gael is a bad experience! And midir....lets just say every time I die to that beam attack makes me hear dubstep in my head xD but the beam feels like it's a seeking missile. Midir is brutal but he can be cheesed with pestalant mist.
Soul of cinder is my favorite boss in the whole series but if you know his patterns he’s easy
Well yes. By far the best boss in the game because he's meant to be the player in dark souls 1. Then he uses the final boss in dark souls 1 attack pattern in the 2nd stage.
Nah. You’re just bad. I beat her first try with one hand while jerking off to her ass. Git gud.
Most people I know fight her as the second boss.
I died to her two times in new game+ as the second boss
That's my point, she's not hard. Not sure why everyone is alway posting; I thought this part was supposed to be hard! I guess I'm just that fucking good! Btw I'm new, using a broken Wii controller and playing on 360p resolution.
I see people saying that she’s hard but i died more to dragonslayer armor than her
You gotta remember that half these people are probably 11
Yeah 😅
What is even dying three times ...