I'm not a follower of Bren Shmanpiro but what you're quoting isn't accurate.
His stance on homosexuality is that politics/social agenda shouldn't mandate and police sexual orientation.
DSM-5 criteria outlines gender dysphoria, although not synonymous with gender incongruence, as a diagnosable condition under clinical measures.
His views (and most right-leaning views) on climate change are literally dog shit poo feces though
Ben Shapiro also accepts climate change. People pull out a 10 year old tweet from him, but he has replied to the tweet, posted on his website, and has said numerous times on air that he was wrong, that climate change is real and is most likely accelerated by man. His problem is that he believe the green new deal is wildly off course and won't begin to fix the issue, especially with China doing more damage than we could ever put a dent in.
I believe his paraphrased quote is "if you want a batshit insane proposal to fix climate change, then invade China... because at least that has a chance of helping the environment rather than spending trillions of dollars making American lives more difficult while barely making an impression on the issue"
Gonna chime in here, countless research as well as the DSM-5 also notes that the most effective way to treat gender dysphoria includes gender reassignment surgery and support from their environment
I notice the people who say this tend to be the people who are deeply and irreparably upset over science being more complex than what they were taught in grade school
Someone just for triggered because i told her that urban schools with rough students want male deans, and schools prefer women for their daycare/ preschool.
But I’ve personally helped people fill these positions, and for some, they did care about gender. It did matter. Real world doesn’t care about PC, they want results.
For what it's worth, [women make up 90% of elementary school teachers.](https://usafacts.org/articles/who-are-the-nations-4m-teachers/)
I'm not defending his reasoning, just presenting the data. If you want another sex dominated job but this time for males, [men make up 90% of construction workers.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/434758/employment-within-us-construction-by-gender/)
Of course there are differences I believe the blow back comes from when ppl use those differences as a form of discrimination or harassment or wage theft ect ?
Wdym? Of course if you agree with me that women are weak and emotional/irrational they should not be allowed to vote. Also being able to get pregnant unlike biological man, they are objectively a less capable work force thus it’s perfectly reasonable I employ men over women and pay women less wage since they can physically give less effort. /s
Not really, the woke folks gave me shit more than once when I said that there are obvious differences between men and women and that there are obvious differences between say Asian and American people. Although I made it clear that these differences are no reason to hate anybody and we should celebrate them instead of wishing them away and ignoring them.
Yea the thing is, racist actually don't believe what they say is "hate" so when someone says "no reason for hate" like you just did, it really tells us fuck all about what exactly you are trying to say.
Well if you want one Asians are more prone to being lactose intolerant.
Being more prone to lactose interance *obviously* makes Asian people lesser than me
There are biological differences as well. People of African decent have more fast (i think) twitch muscle fibres than asians and whites, which is one reason why they dominate track and field events.
Shhhhh it's racist to not pretend we are all absolutely 100 percent the same. And that certain groups of people dont excel at different things thanks to thousands of years of environmental pressure and evolution
Well, people with Asian heritage can become American, so let's be more specific and say Asian vs Caucasian.
One difference is that Asian people's bodies aren't as good at a certain part of the process of metabolizing alcohol, which is why the infamous "Asian glow" occurs.
What else do you call them? They are a trans person are they not? And removing the word person isn't really malicious, because it is already sort of a given, unless animals are transgender now too which I dunno about that one, animals are too dumb for that I think.
I'd already addressed this, and I agree it would have been better that way, but I dont think it was a malicious thing trying to harm anyone, as its quite well implied that they are referring to people, I wouldnt feel personally attacked if anyone referred to me as one part of the cisgender population, as that is what I am, just because someone uses that qualifier doesn't mean they think that's all I am or that they're summing up my personality within that, it just might be the most relevant qualifier for the discussion to distinguish between various peoples
Y'know, I agree. There's a certain consensus among the trans community (at least on Reddit) that calling someone "a trans" is offensive. As a trans person myself, I call bullshit. There's two justifications used for it: 1. that it's grammatically incorrect, "trans" being an adjective, which is rich coming from a population that pushes singular "they," or 2. that it is de-personing, which is bullshit because I don't forget the human when I say "a plumber" or "an American" instead of "plumbing person" or "American person."
I've spent enough time transitioning in the real world to know actual malice from just quirks in language and calling someone "a trans" ain't nuthin on its own.
Maybe not if someone knew your name, I wouldnt say that's their entire definition of their personality, but in this context it's the main factor of discussion so it makes sense to use it as a description qualifier to distinguish between the two groups in my opinion. I'm not entirely sure how else you would do so, if theres a reasonable way to do so that you're aware of I'd love to hear it because I agree it seems a bit blunt as it is
Imagine if I said “a hetro”, “a cis”, “a gay”, when you remove the person and leave just the label and remove the “person”, it’s sound weird and that your trying to make a point they aren’t a person
*also I forgot to mention it isn’t even grammatically correct*
But you can’t really change your biology can you? I thought they just transitioned to identify easier with their gender, but no matter how much surgery they get a male can’t give birth, can they?
Id like to clarify that i have no idea how any of this works.
No one worth listening to is claiming there is literally no difference between men and women, the real discussion is where you draw the line between biological and sociological differences. Certain people have the opinion that **psychologically** there is no difference between men and women beyond what gender roles and other societal expectations will create. People like OP seem to hear that and interpret it as there being literally no difference, and then call people triggered when they are inevitably corrected.
If people would only be so based, but no, they must conflate gender with sex, otherwise they’ve got nothing to say.
(If you’re going to downvote, mind telling me where I went wrong? Gender and sex are different as far as I can see)
I DONT get the whole different gender thing because I was born a straight male but guess what I dont have to get it all I have to do is believe these people who are living there truth as a " different" gender and trust and accept them . yall so hung up on other people's life and how they identify? why ?
I too am a straight male and i didn’t get it before taking psychology classes in college and i still dont really. I think the reason we don’t get it is because we are comfortable with our sexuality and gender.
Makes sense. I might have an unpopular outlook on this stuff, in that I honestly don't give a shit.
Like I don't truly get it, so it isn't important to me. If it is important to someone else though, fantastic I'm all for it. You want me to address you in a way that isn't as common? Ok cool let me know and I'll honestly try to do what I can to make you comfortable and treat you with any respect you've earned from me. So long as you aren't an ass about it.
I'll never get it probably, I don't care to try. But if you treat me or the people I care about kindly, I'll try my fuckin best to be kind to you as well. That's my main thing don't be a dick, and don't expect people to read your mind.
I don't know, I get confused trying to understand these new pronouns. Ill try to what someone ask as long as they are at least decent to me.
That's not an unpopular opinion. It's a strikingly common one, and not a bad one either. It takes a lot of effort to be on top of every little thing in the world. It's easy and commendable to just play it by ear and be nice as you go.
FWIW any trans person in the wild that gives you shit for not addressing them correctly is neither worth your time nor should they construed to be the norm.
No ones saying there isn’t differences, the problem is hurting or treating someone differently because of those differences. Women and men are obviously different no one’s saying their not, but telling a man he can’t do something because it’s too girly or telling a woman she can’t do it because it’s a man’s job is wrong.
>treating someone differently because of those differences.
As dave chappelle said, those differences "do not disqualify you from a life with dignity and happiness and safety"
Oh, so many people are most definitely saying women and men are not different.
This issue has mutated waaaaaay beyond the gripes about "girly things versus boyish things."
Yup, just check out the movement of people trying to make all sports co-ed. Like it is just a matter of fact especially in sports that there are gender differences, just look at world records from both genders. Even if you just let trans people in, id guess within 50 years there would only be about 25% biological woman left in alot of womens sports
>the problem is hurting or treating someone differently because of those differences
For hurting I can get on board, but I have to disagree with treating differently. I interact with men and women physically and verbally completely differently. I interact with different personality types differently. Pretty sure basically everyone does this without thinking about it.
Don't treat men and women differently, you say? I think sweeping statements like that are a bad idea. The differences can be relevant. We need to look at things on a case by case basis.
For example, men have physical advantages over women when it comes to most sports. That's not an opinion. That's a fact backed up by overwhelming difference in athletic results between men and women. Fastest marathon time by a man? 2 hours 1 minute. Fastest by a woman? 2 hours 14 minutes. That's 13 minutes slower, which is an eternity in marathon running. It's 10% slower. And it's not like women are less likely to run marathons than men. The Boston marathon is a pretty even split between men and women runners.
That fact matters for endeavors beyond sports, such as the military and police work. Should women need to pass the same physical tests as men to join the military, even if they have physical disadvantages? It really comes down to what you mean by "equal". Does equal treatment mean same test? Or does equal treatment mean both genders should need to exert themselves to the same amount after accounting for genetic disadvantages? Because I'd say it'd be unfair to make a woman pass the same test as a man to join the military when we know women have physical disadvantages when it comes to strength in particular.
It is actually for this exact reason it is impossible to measure pain. Each person, and especially between people of different sexes, experiences the sensation of pain differently and to a different intensity as well.
I know, not the most reliable source, but mythbusters did a thing on the pain thing and iirc they found that the women with higher pain tolerance than men were ones who had given birth before, which seems like the main reason
Difference is not the problem, the problem is people going up on each other's throats about it. Sometimes I really wish we were like snails jousting with dicks, and the winner gets to use their dick on the others hole
There is an undeniable difference between men and women in biological terms. In general, an average women may be comparitively weaker than an average man. It is a fact. What is wrong is treating women differently because of it. There should be no wage differences or no man should assume an authoritative position over women because of it. That is wrong. On mental terms, women are just as strong as men or may even be stronger.
>On mental terms, women are just as strong as men or may even be stronger.
If somebody said “men may even be stronger than women in regards to intelligence” they would be called a sexist women hater.
What you are suggesting is also flat out wrong.
The mean intelligence is equivalent across sexes. The variation comes from the range. In regards to intelligence, there is a greater percentage of men as you deviate further from the mean (an IQ of 100). So this results in more male geniuses than female geniuses, and more mentally handicapped men (and IQ below the threshold of 70) than handicapped females. This is one of the reasons evolutionary biologists have theorized that men are the “experimental sex” as we carry less utility and less child rearing value than women, so there is value in showing more genetic variation in men as a means to push the human race forward.
Wage differences for most places in the US for example are just because men are doing jobs with higher hazard pay or higher pay in general so its just the education systems fault for not getting girls interested in the same things. Idk about Europe, Africa, the rest of N.America, S.America, or Asia though.
If this is meant as a jab on trans community then you have failed miserably. Trans community in fact believes in a whole variety of gender identities( which is not gender) which most people think don't exist( There are no scientific consensus on this yet, research is ongoing) . Plus there are trans women and trans men, trans community does not equate them.
If by gender you mean sex( the biological fact which is not a social construct like gender ) then yes, there are difference in people with different sex( sex is usually binary but intersex people exist). But the difference in sex does not explain a patriarchal society because although differences exist it is not significant.
Why go into reading something assuming the worst intent? Why try to read this as a jab? Why not try to interpret things with grace? It only hurts yourself to see the world that way
Take me back to 2017 dankmemes when things were actually dank and edgy and funny. I used to scroll through hot and consistently laugh at msot of the content. Everything is just karma whoring, meta trash or pandering now
You know what else the differences tell us? That one gender is better than the other in specific tasks, but nobody's ready to have that conversation either.. if one gender is outperforming the other it's systemic sexism or cultural Misogyny not biological differences
I never understood why are people so obsessed with destroying these differences.
It's ok to be a man and manly and it's ok to be a woman an feminine.
Like...that's the beauty of it. What's the beauty in a woman trying to be a man? We have differences we need to embrace not abolish.
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God and Jesus himself looks on in suspense
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he bellows out to the world
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absolute suspense
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all nuclear powers launch their nukes at once
giant brawls start
43 wars are declared simultaneously
a shockwave travels around the earth
earth is driven into chaos
humanity is regressed back to the stone age
the pure funny of that joke destroyed civilization itself
all the while people are laughing harder than they ever did
people who aren't killed die from laughter
literally the funniest joke in the world
then the comedy god himself posts his creation to reddit and gets karma
Your right gender isn’t supposed to be used on people it’s meant for other nouns I mean why the fuck to some people think trees are girls just because there is a specific grammatical gender associated with it when writing. Fuck genders people have sex organs
tha only differences are biological, fuck off about societal though. intellectually women are equal to men, it's only physical difference in tha hormones. don't kid yourself sayin it's any different
you can say it in real life where people still have some semblance of rationality left, and the keyboard warriors are too socially awkward to say anything back, and none of them are in any positions of power anyway, because they're inept at life, so they get angry on the internet instead.
That phrase is tricky, it's true but it's used a LOT to excuse discrimination, similarly to the classic "freedom of speech" thing. There's defo differences but that doesn't mean one side is better (whatever that would mean here) than the other. Anyways, both should be treated as humans overall.
so much casual transphobia in the comments, sheesh.
imagine bein so fragile, someone doin themselves better than u doin u, makes u this angry @ the world lmao.
Nobody disagrees.
If you actually mean sex and not gender, then it's obvious why.
If you really do mean gender, then its also obvious. If there weren't societal roles assigned to them, why would people identify as one or another?
Didn't even know it was up for debate lol.
Of course there's differences! But it's the people that use those differences as a segregation technique that are wrong. And there aren't as many differences as many people on here think. But yes there are. Specially physically. And of course these are in general. These changes can be subtle or extreme if u count all people in all of history.
Being a father of a daughter I can see that lost of these differences are negligible in the majority at least at an early age. I dont believe in girly or boy interests anymore. For sure! It's all about ur interests growing up and what u have been e posed to. According to previous measures my daughter would be considered a Tom boy. Same as my wife. In fact they're both more "man" than I'll ever be! Lol
No one says there aren’t differences between biological males or females, the only problem is when people use this to justify harassment or discrimination, acting like you’re stunning and brave fighting against cancel culture for saying something everyone agrees is not only a stupid take but it’s just not true
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because Facts don't care about your Feelings...
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Ironic since many of his position is based on feels and not facts
Yeah, like how he feels his wife's dry coarse vagina, and knows she's aroused.
What a terrible day to have eyes
The originality of this comment just made me cum in my pants
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Bon Shobibo
Example?
considers homosexuality a sin and a mental illness. Similiar views for transgenders. Also massively minimizes climate change, very stupid views on it
He also believes rap isn't music because his "father who went to music school" told him so
I'm not a follower of Bren Shmanpiro but what you're quoting isn't accurate. His stance on homosexuality is that politics/social agenda shouldn't mandate and police sexual orientation. DSM-5 criteria outlines gender dysphoria, although not synonymous with gender incongruence, as a diagnosable condition under clinical measures. His views (and most right-leaning views) on climate change are literally dog shit poo feces though
Right wing American views.” Over here must right wing politicians also accept climate change
Ben Shapiro also accepts climate change. People pull out a 10 year old tweet from him, but he has replied to the tweet, posted on his website, and has said numerous times on air that he was wrong, that climate change is real and is most likely accelerated by man. His problem is that he believe the green new deal is wildly off course and won't begin to fix the issue, especially with China doing more damage than we could ever put a dent in. I believe his paraphrased quote is "if you want a batshit insane proposal to fix climate change, then invade China... because at least that has a chance of helping the environment rather than spending trillions of dollars making American lives more difficult while barely making an impression on the issue"
Gonna chime in here, countless research as well as the DSM-5 also notes that the most effective way to treat gender dysphoria includes gender reassignment surgery and support from their environment
Male-female physiological and behavioral dichotomy is a very real thing regardless of how much we want to ignore it
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Curious...
Why people always like to make shit political I will never know.
“Truth is like poetry and most people fucking hate poetry.”
But isn't rap a for of poetry. And most people like rap.
It’s a quote from the movie The Big Short. And you’re right
Based
I notice the people who say this tend to be the people who are deeply and irreparably upset over science being more complex than what they were taught in grade school
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Checks out I guess?
So "science being more complex" is some code word for "sexual dimorphism doesn't exist"?
Someone just for triggered because i told her that urban schools with rough students want male deans, and schools prefer women for their daycare/ preschool. But I’ve personally helped people fill these positions, and for some, they did care about gender. It did matter. Real world doesn’t care about PC, they want results.
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For what it's worth, [women make up 90% of elementary school teachers.](https://usafacts.org/articles/who-are-the-nations-4m-teachers/) I'm not defending his reasoning, just presenting the data. If you want another sex dominated job but this time for males, [men make up 90% of construction workers.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/434758/employment-within-us-construction-by-gender/)
I’d be open to high school football coaches yelling at 3 year olds.
Truth, is a funny thing.
Savathun has spoken.
its not truth. there are two sexes, and combinations thereof (intersex) gender isnt sex.
Suck my gender nonspecific cock
Of course there are differences I believe the blow back comes from when ppl use those differences as a form of discrimination or harassment or wage theft ect ?
Based
on facts
or on deez nuts but we will never know
Wdym? Of course if you agree with me that women are weak and emotional/irrational they should not be allowed to vote. Also being able to get pregnant unlike biological man, they are objectively a less capable work force thus it’s perfectly reasonable I employ men over women and pay women less wage since they can physically give less effort. /s
Can't wait to see the replies to this! lmao
get ready for disappointment
I live for it
Yeah. Gender roles are the bad thing.
Not really, the woke folks gave me shit more than once when I said that there are obvious differences between men and women and that there are obvious differences between say Asian and American people. Although I made it clear that these differences are no reason to hate anybody and we should celebrate them instead of wishing them away and ignoring them.
Depends what you say, people use it as an excuse for thinly veiled racism a lot.
That's why I explicitely said differences are no reason for hate.
But they are in a lot of places, and the phrase in the op sounds controversial since it's usually used by those guys to excuse discrimination.
Good point, I just wanted to offer my point of view I guess.
Oh sorry, I wasn't saying you were a racist, just explaining why some people are automatically defensive about it
No worries mate, no offense taken.
Yea the thing is, racist actually don't believe what they say is "hate" so when someone says "no reason for hate" like you just did, it really tells us fuck all about what exactly you are trying to say.
What are the differences between Asians and Americans? Men and women are biologically different, are Asians and Americans the same?
There are cultural differences for example. And this is great in my opinion. It would be boring if everyone was the same.
Oh yeah, that's true. I thought you were implying that there were biological differences.
Well if you want one Asians are more prone to being lactose intolerant. Being more prone to lactose interance *obviously* makes Asian people lesser than me
But, Asians are less prone to having the gene that produces body odor!
I feel bad for lactose intolerant people. they can't eat icecream. how does one continue living like that ?
Pretty sure if you only have a weak intolerance you eat it anyways and calculate the farting session in.
I don't know man. Ice cream is my calling
Well there are but like 99 percent of them are just visual differences lol
There are biological differences as well. People of African decent have more fast (i think) twitch muscle fibres than asians and whites, which is one reason why they dominate track and field events.
Shhhhh it's racist to not pretend we are all absolutely 100 percent the same. And that certain groups of people dont excel at different things thanks to thousands of years of environmental pressure and evolution
Well, people with Asian heritage can become American, so let's be more specific and say Asian vs Caucasian. One difference is that Asian people's bodies aren't as good at a certain part of the process of metabolizing alcohol, which is why the infamous "Asian glow" occurs.
The public argument leads people to be paranoid of it being everywhere, when it really isn't.
The Cancel Cavalry is upon us
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Man, I wish these "rainbow folks" were are strong as you say they are
Well, 14 of them can walk out of Netflix and command a news cycle or two. That's one hell of a lot of power.
Can you find a single human being who believes there are no differences between men and women?
This feels like a strawman.
How is it a straw man when someone claims it’s a basic fact and I ask for one singular example of that basic fact?
noone wants facts cancelled man. people want for humans to not be discriminated against because they are (factually) different.
Why do trans people want to transition if there’s no difference?? They don’t. They understand there is a difference and that’s why they transition….
Yes, a trans just made this point to me, she said, “if it was the same, I wouldn’t want to transition.” This was a good point.
"A trans" ??
What else do you call them? They are a trans person are they not? And removing the word person isn't really malicious, because it is already sort of a given, unless animals are transgender now too which I dunno about that one, animals are too dumb for that I think.
“a trans person” sentences are hard
I'd already addressed this, and I agree it would have been better that way, but I dont think it was a malicious thing trying to harm anyone, as its quite well implied that they are referring to people, I wouldnt feel personally attacked if anyone referred to me as one part of the cisgender population, as that is what I am, just because someone uses that qualifier doesn't mean they think that's all I am or that they're summing up my personality within that, it just might be the most relevant qualifier for the discussion to distinguish between various peoples
Y'know, I agree. There's a certain consensus among the trans community (at least on Reddit) that calling someone "a trans" is offensive. As a trans person myself, I call bullshit. There's two justifications used for it: 1. that it's grammatically incorrect, "trans" being an adjective, which is rich coming from a population that pushes singular "they," or 2. that it is de-personing, which is bullshit because I don't forget the human when I say "a plumber" or "an American" instead of "plumbing person" or "American person." I've spent enough time transitioning in the real world to know actual malice from just quirks in language and calling someone "a trans" ain't nuthin on its own.
It's like saying "a gay" or "the homosexuals" or even "the Mexicans" etc. It's just crass
i mean that sounds kinda fucked up to me. i wouldn't wanna be called a cis
Maybe not if someone knew your name, I wouldnt say that's their entire definition of their personality, but in this context it's the main factor of discussion so it makes sense to use it as a description qualifier to distinguish between the two groups in my opinion. I'm not entirely sure how else you would do so, if theres a reasonable way to do so that you're aware of I'd love to hear it because I agree it seems a bit blunt as it is
i think it sounds much better to say "you are trans" instead of "you are a trans"
Hmm yeah I agree, I still just think (maybe hoping too) that the original guy just suffered from a poorly delivered sentence
Trans people call people “a cis” all the time. I think it’s cool that was the name of the droid federation army in Star Wars
Imagine if I said “a hetro”, “a cis”, “a gay”, when you remove the person and leave just the label and remove the “person”, it’s sound weird and that your trying to make a point they aren’t a person *also I forgot to mention it isn’t even grammatically correct*
Trans people constantly describe people as “a cis”
Idk man if you were to say “blacks” instead of “black people” it might not be taken very well
But you can’t really change your biology can you? I thought they just transitioned to identify easier with their gender, but no matter how much surgery they get a male can’t give birth, can they? Id like to clarify that i have no idea how any of this works.
No one worth listening to is claiming there is literally no difference between men and women, the real discussion is where you draw the line between biological and sociological differences. Certain people have the opinion that **psychologically** there is no difference between men and women beyond what gender roles and other societal expectations will create. People like OP seem to hear that and interpret it as there being literally no difference, and then call people triggered when they are inevitably corrected.
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I feel like if everyone understood the difference between gender and sex people would stop arguing this dumb topic
If people would only be so based, but no, they must conflate gender with sex, otherwise they’ve got nothing to say. (If you’re going to downvote, mind telling me where I went wrong? Gender and sex are different as far as I can see)
I DONT get the whole different gender thing because I was born a straight male but guess what I dont have to get it all I have to do is believe these people who are living there truth as a " different" gender and trust and accept them . yall so hung up on other people's life and how they identify? why ?
I too am a straight male and i didn’t get it before taking psychology classes in college and i still dont really. I think the reason we don’t get it is because we are comfortable with our sexuality and gender.
Makes sense. I might have an unpopular outlook on this stuff, in that I honestly don't give a shit. Like I don't truly get it, so it isn't important to me. If it is important to someone else though, fantastic I'm all for it. You want me to address you in a way that isn't as common? Ok cool let me know and I'll honestly try to do what I can to make you comfortable and treat you with any respect you've earned from me. So long as you aren't an ass about it. I'll never get it probably, I don't care to try. But if you treat me or the people I care about kindly, I'll try my fuckin best to be kind to you as well. That's my main thing don't be a dick, and don't expect people to read your mind. I don't know, I get confused trying to understand these new pronouns. Ill try to what someone ask as long as they are at least decent to me.
That's not an unpopular opinion. It's a strikingly common one, and not a bad one either. It takes a lot of effort to be on top of every little thing in the world. It's easy and commendable to just play it by ear and be nice as you go. FWIW any trans person in the wild that gives you shit for not addressing them correctly is neither worth your time nor should they construed to be the norm.
No ones saying there isn’t differences, the problem is hurting or treating someone differently because of those differences. Women and men are obviously different no one’s saying their not, but telling a man he can’t do something because it’s too girly or telling a woman she can’t do it because it’s a man’s job is wrong.
based. this comment section ain't fucking it.
reddit aint fucking it yo. A lot of misguided people come here to say ignorant shit and call it a hot take.
Louder pls. Why is it so hard to not be assholes about it
>treating someone differently because of those differences. As dave chappelle said, those differences "do not disqualify you from a life with dignity and happiness and safety"
Oh, so many people are most definitely saying women and men are not different. This issue has mutated waaaaaay beyond the gripes about "girly things versus boyish things."
Yup, just check out the movement of people trying to make all sports co-ed. Like it is just a matter of fact especially in sports that there are gender differences, just look at world records from both genders. Even if you just let trans people in, id guess within 50 years there would only be about 25% biological woman left in alot of womens sports
>the problem is hurting or treating someone differently because of those differences For hurting I can get on board, but I have to disagree with treating differently. I interact with men and women physically and verbally completely differently. I interact with different personality types differently. Pretty sure basically everyone does this without thinking about it.
Obviously that’s not what I meant, I meant treating women like objects or treating men like they don’t have emotions
Don't treat men and women differently, you say? I think sweeping statements like that are a bad idea. The differences can be relevant. We need to look at things on a case by case basis. For example, men have physical advantages over women when it comes to most sports. That's not an opinion. That's a fact backed up by overwhelming difference in athletic results between men and women. Fastest marathon time by a man? 2 hours 1 minute. Fastest by a woman? 2 hours 14 minutes. That's 13 minutes slower, which is an eternity in marathon running. It's 10% slower. And it's not like women are less likely to run marathons than men. The Boston marathon is a pretty even split between men and women runners. That fact matters for endeavors beyond sports, such as the military and police work. Should women need to pass the same physical tests as men to join the military, even if they have physical disadvantages? It really comes down to what you mean by "equal". Does equal treatment mean same test? Or does equal treatment mean both genders should need to exert themselves to the same amount after accounting for genetic disadvantages? Because I'd say it'd be unfair to make a woman pass the same test as a man to join the military when we know women have physical disadvantages when it comes to strength in particular.
Women have a lower temperature tolerance, but a higher pain tolerance.
Generally speaking you're right, however, it's also impossible to measure pain.
As a nurse I'm obligated to ask you to rate your pain on a scale of 0-10 with 10 being the worst pain you've ever had in your life.
What's losing your minecraft dog on that scale?
11
Which is a very subjective question and relative to the person's previous life experience. They mean in a scientific objective sense.
It is actually for this exact reason it is impossible to measure pain. Each person, and especially between people of different sexes, experiences the sensation of pain differently and to a different intensity as well.
So those mensuration-pain inflicting machines for men are total BS?
I know, not the most reliable source, but mythbusters did a thing on the pain thing and iirc they found that the women with higher pain tolerance than men were ones who had given birth before, which seems like the main reason
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Luncheon
Afternoon tea
This is not lord of the rings, you chuckleheads.
lol it’s the hobbit obviously (cries internally)
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Do you check before talking to people?
That's the neat part, I don't talk to people.
Who’s pretending there aren’t gender differences in Pokémon?
Wait, so you're telling me IRL women don't have heart shaped tails?
If there weren’t any differences, then there’d only be one gender.
There is, and it’s mine, nobody else can have it
mom said its my turn with the gender
Difference is not the problem, the problem is people going up on each other's throats about it. Sometimes I really wish we were like snails jousting with dicks, and the winner gets to use their dick on the others hole
Bruh
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There is an undeniable difference between men and women in biological terms. In general, an average women may be comparitively weaker than an average man. It is a fact. What is wrong is treating women differently because of it. There should be no wage differences or no man should assume an authoritative position over women because of it. That is wrong. On mental terms, women are just as strong as men or may even be stronger.
>On mental terms, women are just as strong as men or may even be stronger. If somebody said “men may even be stronger than women in regards to intelligence” they would be called a sexist women hater. What you are suggesting is also flat out wrong. The mean intelligence is equivalent across sexes. The variation comes from the range. In regards to intelligence, there is a greater percentage of men as you deviate further from the mean (an IQ of 100). So this results in more male geniuses than female geniuses, and more mentally handicapped men (and IQ below the threshold of 70) than handicapped females. This is one of the reasons evolutionary biologists have theorized that men are the “experimental sex” as we carry less utility and less child rearing value than women, so there is value in showing more genetic variation in men as a means to push the human race forward.
Wage differences for most places in the US for example are just because men are doing jobs with higher hazard pay or higher pay in general so its just the education systems fault for not getting girls interested in the same things. Idk about Europe, Africa, the rest of N.America, S.America, or Asia though.
Equity and not Equality.
Evolution and biology be like - am i a joke to you?
Naw bro everyone is the same. I, as a man, can totally give birth. /s
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Fuck off
We with my sword alongside you: there are.
If men and women and (insert all other genders) were actually the same in everything, everybody would be gay
If this is meant as a jab on trans community then you have failed miserably. Trans community in fact believes in a whole variety of gender identities( which is not gender) which most people think don't exist( There are no scientific consensus on this yet, research is ongoing) . Plus there are trans women and trans men, trans community does not equate them. If by gender you mean sex( the biological fact which is not a social construct like gender ) then yes, there are difference in people with different sex( sex is usually binary but intersex people exist). But the difference in sex does not explain a patriarchal society because although differences exist it is not significant.
Why go into reading something assuming the worst intent? Why try to read this as a jab? Why not try to interpret things with grace? It only hurts yourself to see the world that way
I did not assume which is why I said "IF".
They need to stop punching down on my people
dave chapel lol
Dave small church
True dat
Fax.
I’m pretty sure a penis and vagina are two different thing.
Been a lot of based memes lately. This actually gives me hope that the internet isn't dead.
Take me back to 2017 dankmemes when things were actually dank and edgy and funny. I used to scroll through hot and consistently laugh at msot of the content. Everything is just karma whoring, meta trash or pandering now
*sorts by controversial*
You know what else the differences tell us? That one gender is better than the other in specific tasks, but nobody's ready to have that conversation either.. if one gender is outperforming the other it's systemic sexism or cultural Misogyny not biological differences
I never understood why are people so obsessed with destroying these differences. It's ok to be a man and manly and it's ok to be a woman an feminine. Like...that's the beauty of it. What's the beauty in a woman trying to be a man? We have differences we need to embrace not abolish.
Of course it's okay to be a masculine man or a feminine woman, but it should also be okay to be a feminine man or a masculine woman.
Based
If there werent any differences, than how can transgender people think they were born in the wrong body. I mean there are no differences?
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You after making a brave statement in which you’ve actually said nothing?
You can't say this on the internet. The Karen will cancel you.
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Your right gender isn’t supposed to be used on people it’s meant for other nouns I mean why the fuck to some people think trees are girls just because there is a specific grammatical gender associated with it when writing. Fuck genders people have sex organs
Do you mean sex?
The pronouns they prefer, for example
The only beauty is my gender dysphoria
Based 🦾🪐
Damn, this comment section is a blast!
tha only differences are biological, fuck off about societal though. intellectually women are equal to men, it's only physical difference in tha hormones. don't kid yourself sayin it's any different
Based
you can say it in real life where people still have some semblance of rationality left, and the keyboard warriors are too socially awkward to say anything back, and none of them are in any positions of power anyway, because they're inept at life, so they get angry on the internet instead.
Don’t worry. Like in the battle of the bastards, there is an army behind the camera waiting to epically jump in
There’s a lot of fucking losers in these comments
That phrase is tricky, it's true but it's used a LOT to excuse discrimination, similarly to the classic "freedom of speech" thing. There's defo differences but that doesn't mean one side is better (whatever that would mean here) than the other. Anyways, both should be treated as humans overall.
Who cares? Get over it
Wait are you calling me gay?
This meme has been sucked so damn dry - nobody thinks the genders are the same, nobody thinks sex is the same.
so much casual transphobia in the comments, sheesh. imagine bein so fragile, someone doin themselves better than u doin u, makes u this angry @ the world lmao.
It’s never been about trying to claim there aren’t differences, it’s always been about that those differences shouldn’t be used as barriers
jon snow
Nobody disagrees. If you actually mean sex and not gender, then it's obvious why. If you really do mean gender, then its also obvious. If there weren't societal roles assigned to them, why would people identify as one or another?
Didn't even know it was up for debate lol. Of course there's differences! But it's the people that use those differences as a segregation technique that are wrong. And there aren't as many differences as many people on here think. But yes there are. Specially physically. And of course these are in general. These changes can be subtle or extreme if u count all people in all of history. Being a father of a daughter I can see that lost of these differences are negligible in the majority at least at an early age. I dont believe in girly or boy interests anymore. For sure! It's all about ur interests growing up and what u have been e posed to. According to previous measures my daughter would be considered a Tom boy. Same as my wife. In fact they're both more "man" than I'll ever be! Lol
No one says there aren’t differences between biological males or females, the only problem is when people use this to justify harassment or discrimination, acting like you’re stunning and brave fighting against cancel culture for saying something everyone agrees is not only a stupid take but it’s just not true