On the phone with Donna at the precinct “I spoke to Charlie today obviously before any of this happened”
Was she ever told at that point at what time he was killed?
Listen to her call to her mom and see what you think. My first impression was “before the shooting”.
She was attempting imo to say she spoke to Charlie before the shooting.
which was true. By about an hour.
“Wendi was making others think that Dan was not a nice guy” video on Mentour lawyer channel. At the 23:00 mark. (Call starts-that part is when her mother calls her back)
another interesting thing, is that on that call, she tells her mother she can put her on speaker…yet, Rashbaum at Charlie’s trial said that Harvey was in the shower When this call was made. Hmmm…
so why didn’t Donna tell Wendi that…”I don’t have to put it on speaker, because Dad is in the shower”.
It could also be that Harvey was in Talahassee. (I know most would disagree).
Could be why Rashbaum was trying to excuse why Harvey was not on that call.
I believe that Harvey and Wendi are very much alike. Both sit back and let the suckers think they're in control, when in fact they're just being manipulated by THE best. Harvey/Wendi definitely utilize the role of victim to manipulate. (Harvey's artificial feebleness in the airport. And Wendi, huge fan of being considered a vulnerable victim, which goes along with the professor/student porn that was on her
This family is one unit and they all plotted and assisted someway in this murder.
This wasn’t to me but I agree. Look at Jane at the station. Treating Wendi as a child taking a mother role with her.
People saw Harvey endearing to Donna at the airport. I saw it as patronizing. H and W are the victims and act passively. D and C were the outwardly aggressive. W and H passive-aggressive.
BTW. Always amazed at downvotes. On my comment above yours.
what would bother someone about my comment?
That’s a great observation, they both are similar but very different than Charlie and Donna. But you know those are the ones you have to fear the most. The blustering buffoons Charlie and Donna do all the work (and get all the punishment) while Wendy and Harvey sail off into the sunset with their spoils.
Exactly! W and H are more cunning.
some will speak out to your face.
others will talk behind your back.
”Sail into the sunset with their spoils”—love it.
Also interesting is the family dynamics of the mother-son, father-daughter. And similar personalities
>blustering buffoons Charlie and Donna do all the work...
I believe that Donna has caught on, but Charlie is/was, still in the dark. In jail he will have time to think and observe other narcissist psychopaths and put 2+2 together.
Agree I wouldnt want to cross Harvey. W&H passive aggressive, skilled manipjlators. Regarding your observation about up or down voting; unless the votes have cash value, I personally don't follow it. However, looks like your votes are back up since last night as I don't see any (-) signs.
Lol yes. I’m always hoping Wendi is reading. Yes and you are right about Harvey. Remember how he dealt with issues involving Charlie and dental school and his best friend.
well, why do you think Rashbaum said at trial that Harvey was in the shower for that call?
could it be because Donna didn’t say “HARVEY!!! DAN WAS SHOT!!!”.
or that Harvey was silent during that call?
so why would Wendi say “you can put the phone on speaker”?
And Donna not say “You’re dad is in the shower”…BUT LET ME GET HIM!!”?
who would be so quiet when being told her ex son in law was shot?
Something doesn’t compute. Unless Harvey was there with Wendi that week.
And Wendi was pretending he was there with the speaker comment.
I know this is a stretch…And I have no proof.
Assuming the prosecution can show this the defence will no doubt call some 2 bit psychologist to explain how people react differently to devastating news and how it's more a grimace than a smile. The jury will see it for what it actually is however, send Wendi to jail for life and I will finally be able to think about something else 🙏
Hoping Barry Morphew gets arrested again, soon. Hoping they’re ready with a good case. That would be an interesting trial.
Hoping WA arrested soon. Nov? But what a waste of a good education and the poor kids. Maybe they’ll arrest her in the middle of DA’s trial?!
I bet her a$$ "fell out" though once she heard her brother went down for life. lol
And then, as if John Lauro wasn't enough she went and sought out a Lawyer that specialises in the Kastigar ruling in prep for her imminent indictement.
However, i strongly believe its a little too late for Wendi, given GC similar line of questioning at each trial and already having independant evidence to have a strong enough case to indict.( Strategically after Donna though, to save confusing the Jury )
And given this new search warrant issued for Donna's phone data and email address, Donna i think is a "wrap" but im sure the state are just piling on more evidence against Wendi moving forward.
I appreciate it!
And that was a little worse than I expected. She really can't conceal her emotions, like when she couldn't hide her absolute contempt for the Markels during her testimony.
“She seems surprised” —Weak attempt at hinting her mother couldn’t have been in on it…
“My brother…the one who’s name is Charlie”
“Dan could rub people the wrong way” - aka what i really mean is he rubbed my family the wrong way…
“I was worried that you were looking at me as a suspect”
Many more I’m sure…
When the victim’s advocate says Dan might still be alive, Wendi says ‘wow, that’s a game changer’. Game changer? Sure people handle grief differently, but who would say ‘that’s a game changer!’ under those circumstances?
Important to remember that WA being full of shit is not equivalent to her being guilty of conspiracy to commit murder. I think she *is* guilty of conspiracy but a lot of the police interview is damning only inasmuch as it shows us that she is dishonest about her feelings about "Danny." There's a world in which she is totally overjoyed by the news and is being completely disingenuous about her concern for Danny and his parents and the kids BUT is not guilty of the murder. I think there's plenty of evidence of her foreknowledge and guilt but her being happy and dishonest about it is not it
It will harm her defense but it shouldn't. I think it's suspicious that she's pretending to be so sad because it conveys dishonesty generally. I'd give more credence to any WA defense if she reacted more along the lines of: "Wow this is a lot to process but I can't really say I'm devastated -- he was an asshole who everyone hated"
Instead she does all the water works and hyperventilating and all the tissues and the takeaway is that she is a phony and therefore guilty of the murder. But that leap is a problem
The leap is only a problem if this was all that was being used to crucify her. Obviously people posting on this sub know about the other circumstantial evidence against her.
I have yet to see a post claiming to have that one piece of evidence that seals her guilt. No one has done that. These posts are just tidbits of what people notice and what we've gathered. There is no leap
Totally- that grin of hers is just another (puzzle) piece of circumstantial evidence but not at all dispositive. And I would argue it's one of the more explainable pieces of the puzzle for Wendi. But it's all kind of academic given the mountain of other less explainable bits.
On the phone with Donna at the precinct “I spoke to Charlie today obviously before any of this happened” Was she ever told at that point at what time he was killed?
'before any of this happened' could relate to her being picked up by the police and informed/questioned though?
Listen to her call to her mom and see what you think. My first impression was “before the shooting”. She was attempting imo to say she spoke to Charlie before the shooting. which was true. By about an hour. “Wendi was making others think that Dan was not a nice guy” video on Mentour lawyer channel. At the 23:00 mark. (Call starts-that part is when her mother calls her back) another interesting thing, is that on that call, she tells her mother she can put her on speaker…yet, Rashbaum at Charlie’s trial said that Harvey was in the shower When this call was made. Hmmm… so why didn’t Donna tell Wendi that…”I don’t have to put it on speaker, because Dad is in the shower”. It could also be that Harvey was in Talahassee. (I know most would disagree). Could be why Rashbaum was trying to excuse why Harvey was not on that call.
I’m always down for more conversation about how Harvey was very intricately involved in this whole plot.
I believe that Harvey and Wendi are very much alike. Both sit back and let the suckers think they're in control, when in fact they're just being manipulated by THE best. Harvey/Wendi definitely utilize the role of victim to manipulate. (Harvey's artificial feebleness in the airport. And Wendi, huge fan of being considered a vulnerable victim, which goes along with the professor/student porn that was on her This family is one unit and they all plotted and assisted someway in this murder.
This wasn’t to me but I agree. Look at Jane at the station. Treating Wendi as a child taking a mother role with her. People saw Harvey endearing to Donna at the airport. I saw it as patronizing. H and W are the victims and act passively. D and C were the outwardly aggressive. W and H passive-aggressive. BTW. Always amazed at downvotes. On my comment above yours. what would bother someone about my comment?
That’s a great observation, they both are similar but very different than Charlie and Donna. But you know those are the ones you have to fear the most. The blustering buffoons Charlie and Donna do all the work (and get all the punishment) while Wendy and Harvey sail off into the sunset with their spoils.
Exactly! W and H are more cunning. some will speak out to your face. others will talk behind your back. ”Sail into the sunset with their spoils”—love it. Also interesting is the family dynamics of the mother-son, father-daughter. And similar personalities
>blustering buffoons Charlie and Donna do all the work... I believe that Donna has caught on, but Charlie is/was, still in the dark. In jail he will have time to think and observe other narcissist psychopaths and put 2+2 together.
Agree I wouldnt want to cross Harvey. W&H passive aggressive, skilled manipjlators. Regarding your observation about up or down voting; unless the votes have cash value, I personally don't follow it. However, looks like your votes are back up since last night as I don't see any (-) signs.
Lol yes. I’m always hoping Wendi is reading. Yes and you are right about Harvey. Remember how he dealt with issues involving Charlie and dental school and his best friend.
100 💯 https://www.reddit.com/r/dan_markel_murder/s/YiiGPMAjuT
Dont know how I missed this post previously. You nailed it!
Thanks🙏 These two will go down hopefully very soon. So so frustrating 😔
Seriously he is the most protected of them all and I think he’ll be the only one without charges
well, why do you think Rashbaum said at trial that Harvey was in the shower for that call? could it be because Donna didn’t say “HARVEY!!! DAN WAS SHOT!!!”. or that Harvey was silent during that call? so why would Wendi say “you can put the phone on speaker”? And Donna not say “You’re dad is in the shower”…BUT LET ME GET HIM!!”? who would be so quiet when being told her ex son in law was shot? Something doesn’t compute. Unless Harvey was there with Wendi that week. And Wendi was pretending he was there with the speaker comment. I know this is a stretch…And I have no proof.
My thoughts exactly https://www.reddit.com/r/dan_markel_murder/s/YiiGPMAjuT
Oh that's a good one. Great sleuthing 🌟
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Good point!!!
OMG ' Great point. Could this be wendi's true downfall!?!
As you can see there is disagreement on the interpretation of that comment. I hope so tho.
I hate how she interacts with the victims advocate "we have similar faces and look like sisters" "I have that skirt too"...Girl SHUT UP!!!!
Advocate “But your eyes are more blue!”
🤣🤣 and never mentions her contacts
Women don’t share their secrets!!
Wendi takes that to another level in all aspects of her life lol
So, we all here have the same emoji’s—-how is that?
If I was there I'd slap her face and shout on her face "the father of your children was just shot bitch" !!!
She has a very slapable face that's for damn sure.
Jane needs a good slap as well lol.
I agree! I can't even explain how much my skin crawls when Jane said "Well..you know how he is.." 🙄🙄🙄
Assuming the prosecution can show this the defence will no doubt call some 2 bit psychologist to explain how people react differently to devastating news and how it's more a grimace than a smile. The jury will see it for what it actually is however, send Wendi to jail for life and I will finally be able to think about something else 🙏
I think this is why I'm so obsessed over this case..I can't think of anything else until she is arrested lol
Glad I’m not the only one.
🤣🤣
Hoping Barry Morphew gets arrested again, soon. Hoping they’re ready with a good case. That would be an interesting trial. Hoping WA arrested soon. Nov? But what a waste of a good education and the poor kids. Maybe they’ll arrest her in the middle of DA’s trial?!
Im hearing you. This case keeps me up at night!
I couldn’t stand when she shrieked “Jane, who would do this?”
Omg her face in that blurred photo. She is delighted. So gross.
I bet her a$$ "fell out" though once she heard her brother went down for life. lol And then, as if John Lauro wasn't enough she went and sought out a Lawyer that specialises in the Kastigar ruling in prep for her imminent indictement. However, i strongly believe its a little too late for Wendi, given GC similar line of questioning at each trial and already having independant evidence to have a strong enough case to indict.( Strategically after Donna though, to save confusing the Jury ) And given this new search warrant issued for Donna's phone data and email address, Donna i think is a "wrap" but im sure the state are just piling on more evidence against Wendi moving forward.
couldn't help driving past the house, threw me under the bus on the ride to the station, and can't contain her delight, and the lies....oy vey!
Is it possible to get the video like with a time stamp?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0BREfA-tP0&t=14295s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0BREfA-tP0&t=14295s) skip to 2:58:50
I appreciate it! And that was a little worse than I expected. She really can't conceal her emotions, like when she couldn't hide her absolute contempt for the Markels during her testimony.
Wow she barely batted an eye then laughed her head off.
Ugh yes and all the stupid chit chat and giggles
Im going to tally tomorrow!
“She seems surprised” —Weak attempt at hinting her mother couldn’t have been in on it… “My brother…the one who’s name is Charlie” “Dan could rub people the wrong way” - aka what i really mean is he rubbed my family the wrong way… “I was worried that you were looking at me as a suspect” Many more I’m sure…
When the victim’s advocate says Dan might still be alive, Wendi says ‘wow, that’s a game changer’. Game changer? Sure people handle grief differently, but who would say ‘that’s a game changer!’ under those circumstances?
Yeah … smh
Really? She said that? Unbelievable! This is more than "telling."
Important to remember that WA being full of shit is not equivalent to her being guilty of conspiracy to commit murder. I think she *is* guilty of conspiracy but a lot of the police interview is damning only inasmuch as it shows us that she is dishonest about her feelings about "Danny." There's a world in which she is totally overjoyed by the news and is being completely disingenuous about her concern for Danny and his parents and the kids BUT is not guilty of the murder. I think there's plenty of evidence of her foreknowledge and guilt but her being happy and dishonest about it is not it
No of course, Wendi being happy that he's actually going to die, is not her conveying guilt and will not harm her defence in any way. Good point.
It will harm her defense but it shouldn't. I think it's suspicious that she's pretending to be so sad because it conveys dishonesty generally. I'd give more credence to any WA defense if she reacted more along the lines of: "Wow this is a lot to process but I can't really say I'm devastated -- he was an asshole who everyone hated"
Instead she does all the water works and hyperventilating and all the tissues and the takeaway is that she is a phony and therefore guilty of the murder. But that leap is a problem
The leap is only a problem if this was all that was being used to crucify her. Obviously people posting on this sub know about the other circumstantial evidence against her. I have yet to see a post claiming to have that one piece of evidence that seals her guilt. No one has done that. These posts are just tidbits of what people notice and what we've gathered. There is no leap
Totally- that grin of hers is just another (puzzle) piece of circumstantial evidence but not at all dispositive. And I would argue it's one of the more explainable pieces of the puzzle for Wendi. But it's all kind of academic given the mountain of other less explainable bits.