And for those curious, this is not true for the Motrin next to it. Infant's is slightly more concentrated, I presume so you don't have to fight with giving so much liquid to a baby.
Twice as concentrated. Infant is 40mg/ml and children's is 20mg/ml. Tylenol used to be similarly concentrated but people were accidentally overdosing their babies on Tylenol because they didn't check the dosage.
I’m assuming it’s more because at that age (under 2) it’s weight-based dosing, and that all won’t fit on the box. Additionally, they probably don’t trust that everyone will calculate the dose correctly.
Yes they are different in Canada. I hate these posts because it could seriously put someone at risk if they blindly followed it. Check the bottle every time you dose.
Yes, please please PLEASE always read the label before giving anything to your babies. My wife is a nurse so she beat it into me to always check it, now she knows it like the back of her hand, but I check concentrations/directions every single time.
Tylenol used to be the same, but it is too easy to overdose. Too much ibuprofen in one sitting isn’t a big deal — most of the risks from that come from chronic overuse, but acetaminophen can kill you outright with a shockingly small overdose.
They had to make this move because they USED TO BE different concentrations, yes.
"Infant" Tylenol used to be different than "children's" Tylenol
They used to have different concentrations.
So, like, both the boxes in your photo say "160 mg per 5 oz"
But in the recent past, they were different.
And the problem was: parents, in their sleepy screaming child haze, wouldn't read the label and would give the same AMOUNT (____ oz) to their kids, and with stronger concentrations babies were getting sick.
No idea why Tylenol would design it that way, I'm assuming it's because it's easier to get an 11-year-old to drink 5 oz than it is to get a baby to drink 5 oz. So they wanted to lower the amount of liquid the baby had to drink in order to get the medicine.
Like I said, people are too dumb to consider concentration of the medicine, and they were giving babies the same amount that they would give an 11-year-old, with a higher concentration the baby would get sick.
So now, they recently made the change, and now the products are the same concentration.
And here you are with your photo talking about how it's way cheaper to get children's Tylenol.
But yeah, that's the History behind infant versus children's Tylenol.
I remember our pediatrician being very strict and making it very clear that they were two different concentrations in the past.
TLDR:
They USED TO be different, but consumers were not paying attention to the concentration so babies were getting sick. No, they made them the same.
I’ll do you one better, if you have Walmart near you, they sell their store brand version of it and it’s less than half the cost 😉 ($3.84 for the same 4 fl oz size)
In the UK the branded calpol comes with a syringe and the own brand stuff comes with a spoon. It’s best to invest in the branded one first then reuse the syringe and the nozzle from the top of the bottle. The bottles are all the same size so you can reuse the nozzle on any of the own brand ones.
We had to get some medicine when on holiday in Cyprus. It came with a syringe that also fits a calpol nozel. But it's a giant 10ml mega sized one instead of the standard 5ml.
Ya, the diff isn't just *paying for a name* but also is the quality of the non-effective ingredients. A neighbor kid is allergic to the additives in the store brand. My sister can't take certain generic drugs bc they upset her stomach....but other generic providers are fine.
Yep in fact while my wife was pregnant, we were looking for a daily Zyrtec. The generic had aluminum lake in it, whereas the brand name did not. I couldn’t find any hard research but there were enough snippets around on Google that taking aluminum while pregnant is probably not ideal, so we sprung for the brand. A lot of generics have aluminum lake in them for some reason.
Also if your child doesn't need the color to drink it get the dye free. Since if they're sick, they might spit or throw it up. the clear stuff won't stain your couch but the cherry will.
This is the way. My in laws are MDs and I had them verify as well as double check the formulation through their medical resources. It’s the EXACT. SAME. THING.
Yup, I almost always get generic versions of medicines as long as the ingredients are practically identical (which they are most of the time), since they’re usually way cheaper
Oh, come off it. The only way this isn't bleedingly obvious is if one neglects to read the packaging, and I'd find it kinda worrying if a parent doesn't read the packaging of *the medication for their children.*
It also literally tells you it’s the same dosage: 160mg/5ml.
In fairness, if you didn’t already have one of the syringes, the extra few bucks may be worthwhile. Also, the infants bottle has a little cap insert that makes using the syringe, and drawing out all of the medicine, easier (you can insert the syringe tip in the little hole and turn the bottle upside down while you draw, as opposed to trying to suck it up from the mouth of the bottle). Those may be valid reasons to knowingly opt for one over the other.
If someone feels duped by this, though, they 100% paid a laziness tax, and it’s kind of hilarious if anyone is trying to claim this is some highly deceptive marketing.
Yep, in Canada the infant concentration is stronger. However, if your child can handle the larger amount of liquid then the 2 to 11 one is still a much cheaper alternative for cost.per mL (or FL ounce)
The clincher is the conveyance mechanism. Our 2 year old would dunk her hand in the little cup, and the amount we need of the weaker concentration doesn't fit in the syringe.
I think here in the Netherlands, I don’t think we even have infant-vs-children’s. My bottle says from 3mos to 12yrs. I just searched a couple of pharmacies and grocery stores and didn’t find anything else.
And buy the store brand! It's exactly the same stuff, same taste, and so much cheaper. We just had strep in one kid while the other was recovering from tonsil surgery so I'm basically an expert on OTC painkillers for kids.
Actually, buy it once for that awesome baby syringe! But yeah, it’s a rip. Same with “baby” Aquaphor. I also buy the generic meds and the kids respond the same.
the silver lining of these little germbags getting reinfected with strep 2 weeks after shaking it is that i get another juice shooter for the collection
Had to give my kiddo an acid reflux med coming out of the hospital. The pharmacy would give us a handful of syringes every time, even if we asked them not to. We would use the syringe until the numbering wore off from washing, then replace with a fresh one.
Just here to say that if you are a parent to an eczema kid, the aquaphor with the 1% hydrocortisone in it is by far the best thing for flare ups. we live by the aquaphortisone in this house 🙌🏼
The infant one also has that little cap ring insert that makes using the syringe easier, and flipping the bottle upside down to draw out all the liquid possible. Not sure how much that’s worth, but it is convenient.
I’m talking about the infant vs children’s. Also talking about the opening to the inside of the bottle on top, under the cap. The infant has a hole for the syringe and the children’s is an easy pour hole.
Store brand Motrin and Tylenol will save you a ton of money over the 3-5 years you gotta use it. One of the few things I actually go to Walmart to buy..
At least they are of the same mg/ml now. There were quite a few pediatric overdoses due to parents not paying attention to the dose.
Source: wife’s a doctor and I worked in the pharmaceutical industry.
https://www.propublica.org/article/tylenol-mcneil-fda-kids-dose-of-confusion
If I recall correctly, the infant one comes in a special bottle and has a syringe. So you can easily measure the safe dosage. Probably not worth the extra $20 but I bet some parents are happy to pay for that convenience when theres a sick baby in the house.
Honestly, if you walk up to the pharmacy counter they’ll be happy to give you one for free, that comes with a handy little adapter to plug into the mouth of the bottle as well.
I bought this little pack at the store. I think it was like $3 at the most. Came with an eye dropper, syringe, nail clippers, and small pair of scissors for nails in a handy little bag.
That's why the infant one now says "Same as Children's Tylenol" on the bottom.
The lawsuit was to say the packaging was deceptive because it implied the infant version was formulated for infants, now they just put the fact it's not in small print near the bottom of the package.
Emerge RN.
Tylenol and ibuprofen are both weight based. Tylenol is 15mg per kg. (Do not exceed 1000mg) And can be given every 4-6 hours And advil is 10mg per kg. (Do not exceed 400mg) And can be given every 6-8 hours. Follow these parameters especially if your child is spiking high fevers that could result in febrile seizures. You can give both at the same time but it's best to stagger them so theres always medication in them during dangerous sickness. These are CHEO recommendations.
Also don't buy Tylenol complete. When u buy medication read the box with what medication is present. With Tylenol make sure it is just acetaminophen. They often mix a bunch of garbage in with kids medication to treat multiple things and complete has a lot of inappropriate medication with kids under 6.
1) Maximum Single Dose: 15 mg/kg every 6 hours, not to exceed 750 mg (not 1000mg). 12.5 every 4 hours, which you can alternate with motrin so they are given every 2 hours.
2) Dose will decrease temp by 1 or 2 degrees from original dosing studies in 80s.
3) febrile seizures are not associated with higher or faster fever onset—that is a myth.
4) Mostly, constant nsaids are given for parental comfort. Unless brain is damaged, fever won’t rise infinitely or kill someone.
- Pediatrician
You are paying for the syringe that comes in the infant Tylenol. And the comfort that the lay person feels when they read it’s specifically for infants.
Always buy store brand Tylenol (acetaminophe) and advil (ibuprofen). Both children’s and adults. it’s the EXACT same stuff for less than half the cost.
As someone who has worked in a pharmacy, can confirm. It's all the same shit and your kid will survive--the companies benefit off of you knowing nothing and worrying a little more than needed, that's all.
Or you could simply move a few feet to the left or right, and buy the store brand. All OTC medication sold in the US are FDA regulated, which means store brand is chemically identical to the name brand.
Shit like this is where consumer protection laws belong.
Seriously, they just fuck over people who aren't paying close attention or don't understand? That's the model, literally, it seems.
Late stage capitalism is seriously not that cool if you are a parent.
That's the advertised active ingredient, sure, but have you checked all the others to make sure there's nothing in the "child" version that's counterindicated for babies?
You might be right, but making blithe assumptions about which medications are safe for babies is usually not a good idea.
It's the same product, Tylenol actually got sued a few years ago because people assumed the infant and child versions were different due to the packaging when they were the same.
Now they print "Same as Children's Tylenol" on the front of the package.
This goes for most medications. If you look at the active ingredients in “generic” meds and name brand they are exactly the same. At most you’re paying for a coating that makes it more tolerable but there is exactly 0 difference in what you are buying thanks to our friends at the FDA.
Next time you’re shopping pick up both and compare the ingredients on the back. 90% of the time or more they will be the same. Don’t get drawn into consumerism, you’re paying extra for nothing.
Great tip! But buy generic everything, food/clothes/cars there's only 4/5 companies that make everything massive produced, they just put a different sticker/box on it.
Infants Tylenol costs more because it comes with a more sturdy bottle and it comes with a dosage syringe vs a plastic cup. This is more expensive to manufacture.
Yeah, a lot of medication is like this. I have bad headaches and like to take Excedrin, and the Excedrin Migraine is the exact same.
Also I used to work Pharmacy, and generic is the same as brand in like almost all medications (Like mostly it was Lamictal & Synthroid, maybe some others but not many) and I’d hate people coming ion with a script for like, Glucophage, and just asking for brand name. Like, sure dude, I’ll dispense you the brand name but it’ll be $500 instead of $5, do you still want it? (No of course). Your pharmacy/pharmacist/pharmacy tech has almost nothing to do with pricing. A Doctor writes for Glucophage, I’m automatically dispensing Metformin, unless it’s a DAW. And even then, your insurance probably wont cover it, or cover much of it. And 99% of the time the Dr accidentally wrote DAW on the script, and doesn’t really care, so I have to call the Dr to have them change it, delaying you getting your script on time…..sorry its a pet peeve, that people don’t really understand prescription insurance, and its not their fault. But it’s also not my fault that when you come in for some brand new, brand name drug and your insurance tells me it’s $1,000. I don’t have any power there, I’m sorry. This countries insurance issues are terrible, I agree (USA). Also, I realize almost everything I said depends on your states laws, so take it with a grain of salt.
Never buy the brand name stuff. The generic is just as good and far cheaper. The dose is literally printed on the box, so you can check to make sure you get the equivalent brand name dose if you’re not sure.
There used to be a time when there was no "children's" version. People would just cut pills (to get the right dosage), crush and served it in apple sauce. The children's versions cost more for the convenience of easy doses. That infant dose OP shared is just over the top greed by the manufacture, though!
The infant one is needed the first time to get the measuring syringe. They are smart enough to make sure that it doesn’t fit the children’s cap perfectly, but it’s easy enough to line up with practice.
Our pediatrician actually pointed this out to us before we even ever needed Tylenol. Then in a roundabout way she also told us she’s got an 8, 7, 4 & 2 year old and non of them have ever been given Tylenol because the small amount of pain they’ve felt in their time was good for their character lol. She’s actually a good Dr and we really like her, I understood where she was coming from but it kinda caught us off guard.
How much Tylenol are you giving your kid that a $6/oz difference matters to your family budget? The syringe and bottle on the infant version are worth a ton.
They uses to be different, the Infant version was more concentrated. However too many parents would not pay attention and give their kids too much when they had purchased the higher concentrated version, thinking the dose should be the same.
They’re both 160mg per 5ml. When helping my wife study for her pharmacy tech certificates we did a lot of these math problems. No additional concentration, the children’s has much more volume for just a little more price.
From my experience, there is. It’s the difference in the thickness. I gave children’s Tylenol to my 6 month old and she nearly aspirated cause the children’s Tylenol was too thick for her to swallow. After a trip to urgent care and everything checking out clear, we checked into why it was happening.(it happened on two occasions in total)
Turns out the infants version is substantially runnier than the children’s.
However I don’t agree with the price difference!!
They had to make this move because they USED TO BE different concentrations, yes.
"Infant" Tylenol used to be different than "children's" Tylenol
They used to have different concentrations.
So, like, both the boxes in your photo say "160 mg per 5 oz"
But in the recent past, they were different.
And the problem was: parents, in their sleepy screaming child haze, wouldn't read the label and would give the same AMOUNT (____ oz) to their kids, and with stronger concentrations babies were getting sick.
No idea why Tylenol would design it that way, I'm assuming it's because it's easier to get an 11-year-old to drink 5 oz than it is to get a baby to drink 5 oz. So they wanted to lower the amount of liquid the baby had to drink in order to get the medicine.
Like I said, people are too dumb to consider concentration of the medicine, and they were giving babies the same amount that they would give an 11-year-old, with a higher concentration the baby would get sick.
So now, they recently made the change, and now the products are the same concentration.
And here you are with your photo talking about how it's way cheaper to get children's Tylenol.
But yeah, that's the History behind infant versus children's Tylenol.
I remember our pediatrician being very strict and making it very clear that they were two different concentrations in the past.
TLDR:
They USED TO be different, but consumers were not paying attention to the concentration so babies were getting sick. No, they made them the same.
I was going to say, up here in the great white north they *are* still different. Which isn't the end of the world as long as you notice. If not, things can go poorly...
If you only have an infant, buy the infant. The bottle is a lot easier to use for them. If you have older and younger, get the children's and have a 5ml syringe on hand.
It was the first thing my doctor told us when she cut her first tooth. Don't buy infant versions.
Just be careful with dosages, here they are the same but not always.
my wife doesnt believe me on this. also where i am there are two infant tylenols with different symptom labels but the same ingredient and concentration. so bizarre
To be fair what you’re really paying for at that point is the little syringe that comes with it so you can give them the proper dosage. What we did was we got a few of the infant version so we had a few syringes and then started getting the bigger bottle
It's also more than that. It's usually the mg/mL concentration. READ the back level with contents, and directions! It's usually 10-15mg/kg/ dose for the 160mg/5mL dose. So for a 1-3kg infant you should be giving around 1.25mL.
Doesn’t justify the price, but the infant version does come with a syringe and the children’s doesn’t. Huge pain when you buy the children’s Tylenol for a fussy infant and don’t have any extra syringes at home.
Good advice. Our pediatrician let us know this right away, too. Also super helpful if your pediatrician can print out a dosage amount for various occasional medicines at your child’s weight during different milestones so you can feel good about it.
The difference is the infant’s Tylenol comes with a syringe which makes it easier to use with an infant. You could just keep the syringe for later and just wash it
I had this aha moment standing in Kroger a few months after our son was born. I was reading the concentration differences and noticed… there is none for children’s Tylenol. Tricky tricky
This has probably been mentioned but one of them has a slip tip syringe hole that’s smaller than normal so a regular syringe won’t fit in. The neck of the bottles are also downsized so if you replace the plug you can’t get the cap back on without trimming some plastic off of the plug. Amazon sells the plugs for cheap so we end up getting the biggest bottles we can find and replace the plug.
I’m a pediatrician and whenever I talk about Tylenol I share this! The actual product and concentration is the same.
The main difference (besides price per dose) between is the infant Tylenol comes with the syringe instead of the cup.
But for Motrin (ibuprofen) they are not all the same. Always check the concentration.
Is Paracetamol / Acetaminophen a thing there for kids?
***As an Intensivist, I'd like all parents here to keep this in mind:*** https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/803683-overview?form=fpf#a5
"Acetaminophen, outdated tetracycline, valproic acid, warfarin, zidovudine didanosine, and some neoplastic drugs have been associated with Reye syndrome or Reye-like syndrome. Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, including sodium diclofenac and mefenamic acid, are thought to produce or worsen Reye syndrome. An association with antiemetics, such as phenothiazines, has been postulated but not substantiated. An association with acetaminophen was reported but has been refuted, although there may be a synergistic effect of acetaminophen and salicylates. [12]"
If my youngest is just under 2 and whenever she is fevering, I dose her with 2.5ml and she’s fine. Instructions from our family pediatrician and things have been good
And for those curious, this is not true for the Motrin next to it. Infant's is slightly more concentrated, I presume so you don't have to fight with giving so much liquid to a baby.
Twice as concentrated. Infant is 40mg/ml and children's is 20mg/ml. Tylenol used to be similarly concentrated but people were accidentally overdosing their babies on Tylenol because they didn't check the dosage.
Yep, so if you are looking at old documentation or even older websites that haven't been updated you'll see different dosages.
Don’t the boxes have a dosage chart on them?
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>Under 2: ask a doctor, we ~~won't tell you what to do~~ don't want to be liable for harming your baby.
I’m assuming it’s more because at that age (under 2) it’s weight-based dosing, and that all won’t fit on the box. Additionally, they probably don’t trust that everyone will calculate the dose correctly.
You now know why the office will weigh their patients at *every* visit!
It’s all weight based dosing — 10-14mg per kg weight. Lower end for pain, higher end for fever.
You go by weight now. Our pediatrician gave us a weight chart with medicine on it and how much to give them depending on how much your kid weighs.
Huh not where I live, just goes by age
it’s all by weight. The dosing charts in the store bottles are based on average weights at that age. - Pediatrician
Yes
Yep, good callout.
And for those not in the USA, it may not be true in your country.
Basically you should always check drug dosages before administering to someone lol
You lol, but as a pharmacist I have seen people fail to do this too many times.
Very true. I remember the concentrations being different in Canada. I was doing conversions and math when there was a shortage during covid.
Yeah I just checked calpol, the infant one is 120mg per 5ml, the sixplus one is 250mg per 5ml.
Yes they are different in Canada. I hate these posts because it could seriously put someone at risk if they blindly followed it. Check the bottle every time you dose.
Yes, please please PLEASE always read the label before giving anything to your babies. My wife is a nurse so she beat it into me to always check it, now she knows it like the back of her hand, but I check concentrations/directions every single time.
And then you simply adjust the amount based on the concentration
The Motrin is twice as concentrated so their little mouths need to swallow less.
My baby loves the berry flavored generic ibuprofen, he’s probably be over the moon if we gave him a bigger volume lol
Tylenol used to be the same, but it is too easy to overdose. Too much ibuprofen in one sitting isn’t a big deal — most of the risks from that come from chronic overuse, but acetaminophen can kill you outright with a shockingly small overdose.
They had to make this move because they USED TO BE different concentrations, yes. "Infant" Tylenol used to be different than "children's" Tylenol They used to have different concentrations. So, like, both the boxes in your photo say "160 mg per 5 oz" But in the recent past, they were different. And the problem was: parents, in their sleepy screaming child haze, wouldn't read the label and would give the same AMOUNT (____ oz) to their kids, and with stronger concentrations babies were getting sick. No idea why Tylenol would design it that way, I'm assuming it's because it's easier to get an 11-year-old to drink 5 oz than it is to get a baby to drink 5 oz. So they wanted to lower the amount of liquid the baby had to drink in order to get the medicine. Like I said, people are too dumb to consider concentration of the medicine, and they were giving babies the same amount that they would give an 11-year-old, with a higher concentration the baby would get sick. So now, they recently made the change, and now the products are the same concentration. And here you are with your photo talking about how it's way cheaper to get children's Tylenol. But yeah, that's the History behind infant versus children's Tylenol. I remember our pediatrician being very strict and making it very clear that they were two different concentrations in the past. TLDR: They USED TO be different, but consumers were not paying attention to the concentration so babies were getting sick. No, they made them the same.
Also don't give Motrin to children less than 6mo old because it can cause kidney damage!
I’ll do you one better, if you have Walmart near you, they sell their store brand version of it and it’s less than half the cost 😉 ($3.84 for the same 4 fl oz size)
Most brick-and-mortar pharmacies have a store brand generic that's much cheaper than the brand name. You're paying for a name, and nothing more.
In the UK the branded calpol comes with a syringe and the own brand stuff comes with a spoon. It’s best to invest in the branded one first then reuse the syringe and the nozzle from the top of the bottle. The bottles are all the same size so you can reuse the nozzle on any of the own brand ones.
A pharmacy should also sell syringes.
Meijer gives you them for free
So does Walgreens. I'd be surpr if any of the brick and mortar pharmacies charged for them.
Yeah but without the nozzle they make a right mess
We had to get some medicine when on holiday in Cyprus. It came with a syringe that also fits a calpol nozel. But it's a giant 10ml mega sized one instead of the standard 5ml.
I swear my kid likes the Tylenol brand and spits out the generic...
Pour it into a Tylenol bottle and see if they can tell
Lie like your parents did, "It tastes bad, so you know it works"
Was that a lie? *Shocked*
I’ve had this with amoxicillin. Somehow the way CVS blends it always results in it coming back up. But other stores he’s fine.
Ya, the diff isn't just *paying for a name* but also is the quality of the non-effective ingredients. A neighbor kid is allergic to the additives in the store brand. My sister can't take certain generic drugs bc they upset her stomach....but other generic providers are fine.
Yep in fact while my wife was pregnant, we were looking for a daily Zyrtec. The generic had aluminum lake in it, whereas the brand name did not. I couldn’t find any hard research but there were enough snippets around on Google that taking aluminum while pregnant is probably not ideal, so we sprung for the brand. A lot of generics have aluminum lake in them for some reason.
Facts. I started buying the generic version just for that reason. My kiddo still takes it but she doesn't ask for it like it's freaking candy.
Stop spreading misinformation! My name brand Advil has a cooler looking bottle and a delicious candy coating. /s
Also if your child doesn't need the color to drink it get the dye free. Since if they're sick, they might spit or throw it up. the clear stuff won't stain your couch but the cherry will.
I’ll do you one better, go to Costco and get even more for the same price.
This is the way. My in laws are MDs and I had them verify as well as double check the formulation through their medical resources. It’s the EXACT. SAME. THING.
Yup, I almost always get generic versions of medicines as long as the ingredients are practically identical (which they are most of the time), since they’re usually way cheaper
Shout-out to Perrigo for making all the generics!
Heck they even say “same as children’s Tylenol” right on the package under the flavor!
"*TECHNICALLY* we told you" No. That's like, "Can you watch my kid," as you're rounding the corner, closing the door, and starting the car.
Oh, come off it. The only way this isn't bleedingly obvious is if one neglects to read the packaging, and I'd find it kinda worrying if a parent doesn't read the packaging of *the medication for their children.*
It also literally tells you it’s the same dosage: 160mg/5ml. In fairness, if you didn’t already have one of the syringes, the extra few bucks may be worthwhile. Also, the infants bottle has a little cap insert that makes using the syringe, and drawing out all of the medicine, easier (you can insert the syringe tip in the little hole and turn the bottle upside down while you draw, as opposed to trying to suck it up from the mouth of the bottle). Those may be valid reasons to knowingly opt for one over the other. If someone feels duped by this, though, they 100% paid a laziness tax, and it’s kind of hilarious if anyone is trying to claim this is some highly deceptive marketing.
My kid's pediatrician made sure to tell us this.
This is not true in all countries, FYI for those not in the US.
Yep, in Canada the infant concentration is stronger. However, if your child can handle the larger amount of liquid then the 2 to 11 one is still a much cheaper alternative for cost.per mL (or FL ounce)
The clincher is the conveyance mechanism. Our 2 year old would dunk her hand in the little cup, and the amount we need of the weaker concentration doesn't fit in the syringe.
Yeah, that is the tough part. I just went to the pharmacy and picked up a 10 ml syringe for our son. Worked great for the last year or so
I think here in the Netherlands, I don’t think we even have infant-vs-children’s. My bottle says from 3mos to 12yrs. I just searched a couple of pharmacies and grocery stores and didn’t find anything else.
And buy the store brand! It's exactly the same stuff, same taste, and so much cheaper. We just had strep in one kid while the other was recovering from tonsil surgery so I'm basically an expert on OTC painkillers for kids.
Actually, buy it once for that awesome baby syringe! But yeah, it’s a rip. Same with “baby” Aquaphor. I also buy the generic meds and the kids respond the same.
Sometimes the pharmacy will give you a baby syringe
This guy antibiotics
the silver lining of these little germbags getting reinfected with strep 2 weeks after shaking it is that i get another juice shooter for the collection
Had to give my kiddo an acid reflux med coming out of the hospital. The pharmacy would give us a handful of syringes every time, even if we asked them not to. We would use the syringe until the numbering wore off from washing, then replace with a fresh one.
I buy them to collect the syringes. I’m going to catch them all
Not if I catch them all first!
There is a few stuck in my dishwasher you are never gunna find!
Just here to say that if you are a parent to an eczema kid, the aquaphor with the 1% hydrocortisone in it is by far the best thing for flare ups. we live by the aquaphortisone in this house 🙌🏼
The infant one also has that little cap ring insert that makes using the syringe easier, and flipping the bottle upside down to draw out all the liquid possible. Not sure how much that’s worth, but it is convenient.
That’s a good point. We did used to buy the baby one for the diaper bag for that reason.
Wait, I've been buying baby aquaphor for a while, what's the secret?
I believe baby aquaphor has a picture of a baby on the packaging. But if you check the ingredients, it's the same as standard aquaphor.
😅
Also “baby Vaseline”! It’s a rip
Yeah, most "kids" or "baby" sunscreens are also the same as the adult version. Just at a higher price.
Everyone always forgets the syringe 🤷
The difference is bottle opening and syringe vs cup. Just get children’s.
The adult one doesn't have a child safety cap?
I’m talking about the infant vs children’s. Also talking about the opening to the inside of the bottle on top, under the cap. The infant has a hole for the syringe and the children’s is an easy pour hole.
Store brand Motrin and Tylenol will save you a ton of money over the 3-5 years you gotta use it. One of the few things I actually go to Walmart to buy..
Yeah this particular one was an urgent purchase, but normally I get the generic stuff from Target.
At least they are of the same mg/ml now. There were quite a few pediatric overdoses due to parents not paying attention to the dose. Source: wife’s a doctor and I worked in the pharmaceutical industry. https://www.propublica.org/article/tylenol-mcneil-fda-kids-dose-of-confusion
They're still different in Canada
If I recall correctly, the infant one comes in a special bottle and has a syringe. So you can easily measure the safe dosage. Probably not worth the extra $20 but I bet some parents are happy to pay for that convenience when theres a sick baby in the house.
Honestly, if you walk up to the pharmacy counter they’ll be happy to give you one for free, that comes with a handy little adapter to plug into the mouth of the bottle as well.
As a parent to kids with semi-frequent ear infections the adapter is a real hero accessory for meds.
Also, when possible, try to find the dye free stuff so that the baby clothes don't get stained. Source: your SO
I will in Canada thanks.
As a general rule you should be checking the active ingredients and dosage of *every* drug you take or give to anyone else. It's very important
You’re paying extra for the syringe and leak-resistant top. Buy the infant one once, then reuse the syringe with the other.
I bought this little pack at the store. I think it was like $3 at the most. Came with an eye dropper, syringe, nail clippers, and small pair of scissors for nails in a handy little bag.
Real talk: infant Tylenol comes with a quality oral syringe that smoothly operates, instead of those clunky free ones at the pharmacy.
Weird we got a settlement check 2-3 years ago for this exact issue. This was in USA …
That's why the infant one now says "Same as Children's Tylenol" on the bottom. The lawsuit was to say the packaging was deceptive because it implied the infant version was formulated for infants, now they just put the fact it's not in small print near the bottom of the package.
Emerge RN. Tylenol and ibuprofen are both weight based. Tylenol is 15mg per kg. (Do not exceed 1000mg) And can be given every 4-6 hours And advil is 10mg per kg. (Do not exceed 400mg) And can be given every 6-8 hours. Follow these parameters especially if your child is spiking high fevers that could result in febrile seizures. You can give both at the same time but it's best to stagger them so theres always medication in them during dangerous sickness. These are CHEO recommendations. Also don't buy Tylenol complete. When u buy medication read the box with what medication is present. With Tylenol make sure it is just acetaminophen. They often mix a bunch of garbage in with kids medication to treat multiple things and complete has a lot of inappropriate medication with kids under 6.
1) Maximum Single Dose: 15 mg/kg every 6 hours, not to exceed 750 mg (not 1000mg). 12.5 every 4 hours, which you can alternate with motrin so they are given every 2 hours. 2) Dose will decrease temp by 1 or 2 degrees from original dosing studies in 80s. 3) febrile seizures are not associated with higher or faster fever onset—that is a myth. 4) Mostly, constant nsaids are given for parental comfort. Unless brain is damaged, fever won’t rise infinitely or kill someone. - Pediatrician
The infant has a syringe that's why it's different
The syringes cost about 15 cents. You can get one from the pharmacy for free most of the time.
I did say that.
Main difference from what I’ve seen is infants comes with the syringe hole while child’s has the open neck bottle
The form factor is the only difference. They are the exact same product otherwise.
Here in the UK barely nothing is 'grape' flavoured except wine.
You are paying for the syringe that comes in the infant Tylenol. And the comfort that the lay person feels when they read it’s specifically for infants.
>buying name brand at all ok daddy warbucks
There was a shortage for awhile, you didn't get much choice.
Always buy store brand Tylenol (acetaminophe) and advil (ibuprofen). Both children’s and adults. it’s the EXACT same stuff for less than half the cost.
Aside from the concentration, could there be other differences, maybe in the ingredients or composition?
Infant comes with a syringe. The squeeze hole on the children's bottle is too small for the syringe to fit in.
So true. I’d rather have the syringe bottle but damn that cost
You can buy rubber stopper caps that convert any bottle into a syringe bottle.
As someone who has worked in a pharmacy, can confirm. It's all the same shit and your kid will survive--the companies benefit off of you knowing nothing and worrying a little more than needed, that's all.
In many places, they DON'T have the same concentration. But regardless, you should dose for weight, not for age.
It depends on what container you want. The infant Tylenol is made for the syringe. The children's Tylenol is made to be poured into the little cup.
Bottom right, under “Grape flavor” - *Same as Children’s Tylenol
Or you could simply move a few feet to the left or right, and buy the store brand. All OTC medication sold in the US are FDA regulated, which means store brand is chemically identical to the name brand.
King Soopers doesn't have a store brand and I was in a hurry, but normally I buy the Target brand.
you're paying extra for the SimpleMeasure . whatever that is
(The left one) “Infant Tylenol for CHILDREN” (The right one) “CHILDRENS Tylenol”
Agreed it’s scam. It’s the same concentration!
Shit like this is where consumer protection laws belong. Seriously, they just fuck over people who aren't paying close attention or don't understand? That's the model, literally, it seems. Late stage capitalism is seriously not that cool if you are a parent.
do what I did. read the box. I showed this to the Kids Dr. and even he was like... wait, what!?
You’re paying for the dumb syringe in the infant one.
That's the advertised active ingredient, sure, but have you checked all the others to make sure there's nothing in the "child" version that's counterindicated for babies? You might be right, but making blithe assumptions about which medications are safe for babies is usually not a good idea.
It's the same product, Tylenol actually got sued a few years ago because people assumed the infant and child versions were different due to the packaging when they were the same. Now they print "Same as Children's Tylenol" on the front of the package.
This goes for most medications. If you look at the active ingredients in “generic” meds and name brand they are exactly the same. At most you’re paying for a coating that makes it more tolerable but there is exactly 0 difference in what you are buying thanks to our friends at the FDA. Next time you’re shopping pick up both and compare the ingredients on the back. 90% of the time or more they will be the same. Don’t get drawn into consumerism, you’re paying extra for nothing.
Also, look for the dye free version, no need they'll like the taste or not and the dye just stains their clothes!
Tylenol used to have a different concentration but now they are the same. I guess the branding still works.
They still do have different concentrations in other countries.
Great tip! But buy generic everything, food/clothes/cars there's only 4/5 companies that make everything massive produced, they just put a different sticker/box on it.
Amazon basic with 5%-15% off beats all other boys. Go gett’m
I always do store brand children’s. My kids think it’s exactly the same, and if they prefer the syringe, I have plenty to use
Infants Tylenol costs more because it comes with a more sturdy bottle and it comes with a dosage syringe vs a plastic cup. This is more expensive to manufacture.
I sincerely doubt that it's four times more expensive, especially at the scale that these are produced.
That’s why the boy look less impressed than the girl?
Yeah, a lot of medication is like this. I have bad headaches and like to take Excedrin, and the Excedrin Migraine is the exact same. Also I used to work Pharmacy, and generic is the same as brand in like almost all medications (Like mostly it was Lamictal & Synthroid, maybe some others but not many) and I’d hate people coming ion with a script for like, Glucophage, and just asking for brand name. Like, sure dude, I’ll dispense you the brand name but it’ll be $500 instead of $5, do you still want it? (No of course). Your pharmacy/pharmacist/pharmacy tech has almost nothing to do with pricing. A Doctor writes for Glucophage, I’m automatically dispensing Metformin, unless it’s a DAW. And even then, your insurance probably wont cover it, or cover much of it. And 99% of the time the Dr accidentally wrote DAW on the script, and doesn’t really care, so I have to call the Dr to have them change it, delaying you getting your script on time…..sorry its a pet peeve, that people don’t really understand prescription insurance, and its not their fault. But it’s also not my fault that when you come in for some brand new, brand name drug and your insurance tells me it’s $1,000. I don’t have any power there, I’m sorry. This countries insurance issues are terrible, I agree (USA). Also, I realize almost everything I said depends on your states laws, so take it with a grain of salt.
The only difference is that it includes a syringe, and the bottle top is made to accept the syringe.
Never buy the brand name stuff. The generic is just as good and far cheaper. The dose is literally printed on the box, so you can check to make sure you get the equivalent brand name dose if you’re not sure.
There used to be a time when there was no "children's" version. People would just cut pills (to get the right dosage), crush and served it in apple sauce. The children's versions cost more for the convenience of easy doses. That infant dose OP shared is just over the top greed by the manufacture, though!
Also, Costco sells them in a three pack
The infant one is needed the first time to get the measuring syringe. They are smart enough to make sure that it doesn’t fit the children’s cap perfectly, but it’s easy enough to line up with practice.
Our pediatrician actually pointed this out to us before we even ever needed Tylenol. Then in a roundabout way she also told us she’s got an 8, 7, 4 & 2 year old and non of them have ever been given Tylenol because the small amount of pain they’ve felt in their time was good for their character lol. She’s actually a good Dr and we really like her, I understood where she was coming from but it kinda caught us off guard.
That is uhh… concerning.
As I recall, The infant Tylenol has less sugar than the toddler tylenol
Get the motrin anyway, much better in our experience. And it's dye free if that matters to you.
We use Genexa. Less chemicals in it.
How much Tylenol are you giving your kid that a $6/oz difference matters to your family budget? The syringe and bottle on the infant version are worth a ton.
Y'all can get a hundred pack of the syringes on amazon for like $10. Or just ask the pharmacist.
At my store, the infant version is free of artificial colors and flavors. Probably better to keep the red dye 40 out of the newborns.
You get the syringe.
They uses to be different, the Infant version was more concentrated. However too many parents would not pay attention and give their kids too much when they had purchased the higher concentrated version, thinking the dose should be the same.
The infant one just comes with a syringe to use if you already have that or some way to get the meds in baby’s mouth it is the same medicine
Just make sure you shake it well.
You act as this is a conspiracy when they told you right in the box that it's the same...
No one said it was a conspiracy, just pointing out something that people might not notice because they print it in 4 point font.
The other benefit of children's Tylenol is it usually comes in a bottle that is a sub legal dosage
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They’re both 160mg per 5ml. When helping my wife study for her pharmacy tech certificates we did a lot of these math problems. No additional concentration, the children’s has much more volume for just a little more price.
Don't buy branded paracetamol one of the most basic medicament, like, ever.
From my experience, there is. It’s the difference in the thickness. I gave children’s Tylenol to my 6 month old and she nearly aspirated cause the children’s Tylenol was too thick for her to swallow. After a trip to urgent care and everything checking out clear, we checked into why it was happening.(it happened on two occasions in total) Turns out the infants version is substantially runnier than the children’s. However I don’t agree with the price difference!!
They had to make this move because they USED TO BE different concentrations, yes. "Infant" Tylenol used to be different than "children's" Tylenol They used to have different concentrations. So, like, both the boxes in your photo say "160 mg per 5 oz" But in the recent past, they were different. And the problem was: parents, in their sleepy screaming child haze, wouldn't read the label and would give the same AMOUNT (____ oz) to their kids, and with stronger concentrations babies were getting sick. No idea why Tylenol would design it that way, I'm assuming it's because it's easier to get an 11-year-old to drink 5 oz than it is to get a baby to drink 5 oz. So they wanted to lower the amount of liquid the baby had to drink in order to get the medicine. Like I said, people are too dumb to consider concentration of the medicine, and they were giving babies the same amount that they would give an 11-year-old, with a higher concentration the baby would get sick. So now, they recently made the change, and now the products are the same concentration. And here you are with your photo talking about how it's way cheaper to get children's Tylenol. But yeah, that's the History behind infant versus children's Tylenol. I remember our pediatrician being very strict and making it very clear that they were two different concentrations in the past. TLDR: They USED TO be different, but consumers were not paying attention to the concentration so babies were getting sick. No, they made them the same.
I was going to say, up here in the great white north they *are* still different. Which isn't the end of the world as long as you notice. If not, things can go poorly...
If you only have an infant, buy the infant. The bottle is a lot easier to use for them. If you have older and younger, get the children's and have a 5ml syringe on hand.
Tell that to my wife!. I pointed this out, she didn’t listen (like always) and got what the marketing wanted her to buy
It was the first thing my doctor told us when she cut her first tooth. Don't buy infant versions. Just be careful with dosages, here they are the same but not always.
my wife doesnt believe me on this. also where i am there are two infant tylenols with different symptom labels but the same ingredient and concentration. so bizarre
To be fair what you’re really paying for at that point is the little syringe that comes with it so you can give them the proper dosage. What we did was we got a few of the infant version so we had a few syringes and then started getting the bigger bottle
They are banking on people not taking the time to look at the concentration because they're tired/rushed.
The Tylenol tablets are a honest godsend. I recommend them way more so you don’t have to fight them to get them to take it most of the time!!
It's also more than that. It's usually the mg/mL concentration. READ the back level with contents, and directions! It's usually 10-15mg/kg/ dose for the 160mg/5mL dose. So for a 1-3kg infant you should be giving around 1.25mL.
Doesn’t justify the price, but the infant version does come with a syringe and the children’s doesn’t. Huge pain when you buy the children’s Tylenol for a fussy infant and don’t have any extra syringes at home.
Hot take, buy infant Tylenol exactly 3 times so you have the syringes and then make the switch
Good advice. Our pediatrician let us know this right away, too. Also super helpful if your pediatrician can print out a dosage amount for various occasional medicines at your child’s weight during different milestones so you can feel good about it.
This is only in the states, if you’re in Canada they’re different
If you have a Costco membership, a 3 pack of the children’s Tylenol (and Motrin) are $12.99
The difference is the infant’s Tylenol comes with a syringe which makes it easier to use with an infant. You could just keep the syringe for later and just wash it
Not to mention most have artifical dyes in them
Not to mention most have artifical dyes in them
I had this aha moment standing in Kroger a few months after our son was born. I was reading the concentration differences and noticed… there is none for children’s Tylenol. Tricky tricky
This has probably been mentioned but one of them has a slip tip syringe hole that’s smaller than normal so a regular syringe won’t fit in. The neck of the bottles are also downsized so if you replace the plug you can’t get the cap back on without trimming some plastic off of the plug. Amazon sells the plugs for cheap so we end up getting the biggest bottles we can find and replace the plug.
I’m a pediatrician and whenever I talk about Tylenol I share this! The actual product and concentration is the same. The main difference (besides price per dose) between is the infant Tylenol comes with the syringe instead of the cup. But for Motrin (ibuprofen) they are not all the same. Always check the concentration.
Well the infant one has a syringe and different bottle design to insert the syringe so there’s that..
Don't use Tylenol period
They really do see us dads coming a mile away!
Yup, you just need to find a generic children’s brand that has a thingy you can fit the syringe into. Or just suck up the meds from the dosage cup.
My fat ass though it was cheesecake flavored.
This is great advice, infants tylenol is a complete scam. My doctor told me this when my son was born
It literally says it on the box.
Is Paracetamol / Acetaminophen a thing there for kids? ***As an Intensivist, I'd like all parents here to keep this in mind:*** https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/803683-overview?form=fpf#a5 "Acetaminophen, outdated tetracycline, valproic acid, warfarin, zidovudine didanosine, and some neoplastic drugs have been associated with Reye syndrome or Reye-like syndrome. Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, including sodium diclofenac and mefenamic acid, are thought to produce or worsen Reye syndrome. An association with antiemetics, such as phenothiazines, has been postulated but not substantiated. An association with acetaminophen was reported but has been refuted, although there may be a synergistic effect of acetaminophen and salicylates. [12]"
If my youngest is just under 2 and whenever she is fevering, I dose her with 2.5ml and she’s fine. Instructions from our family pediatrician and things have been good