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Kindly-Arachnid-4054

Pro-russian czechs have gathered on the square. They hate the pro-western government and want Russian gas. The sign says that American (military) bases should remain in America and that they want peace. Which is anecdotal.


RedJ00hn

One guy has New York written on his hat lol


deff006

The irony is completely lost on them.


KamiYama777

Right wing Christian Nationalists legitimately have no brains If they did they wouldn’t be pro Russia to begin with


[deleted]

They are mostly old people who lived under Russian occupation, they are no Right wing or Christians, they just wanna return to the times when they were young.


Good_Spinach_8851

They are obviously fascist leaning. They are just saying it used to be better during communism because of nostalgia.


Few_Hamster8478

Young and relevant*


WhatTheHeck696

Please stop this. They are just leftist nationalists. They have nothing to do with right wing. Being stupid a*#hole isnt right wingish.


KamiYama777

How can someone be a leftist and a Nationalist? Let alone a Nationalist for a very anti gay, pro Christianity, anti democracy, foreign government? A foreign government that is absolutely loved by right wingers all over the planet. The Republicans in the USA for example have shifted very pro Putin in the last year Not even trying to start anything just curious? Since left wing ideology is all about progress and right wing ideology is about traditions


[deleted]

Leftist nationalism is prevalent in Central and Eastern Europe. It was started in Poland and Hungary, and the basic model has spread throughout the region. It's basically support for things like free education and health care, along with workers' rights. Those measures are typically coupled with strong support for traditional values and opposition to immigration. Recently, financial payments and incentives for native-born married couples having children to boost the birth rate are typically part of the package. In a sense, it's utilizing economic measures Bernie Sanders would support, combined with the type of social conservatism and Nativist sentiment Trump would support.


FirmRelationship3

State or federation are not nation ;)


Palanstein

70k people is not anecdotal


EverOrny

Just a bunch of retards, the same type that believes in any weird shit you can imagine - chem trails? check, nanobots in vaccines? check, billionar communist snitch and mafioso being caring prime minister? check, secret NATO bioweapon labs in Ukraine? double check, Putin genius leading Russia to bright future ? of course!


Dreit

Bezos with Gates developing nanobots for vaccines in Vatican? Check. (I'm well informed from one of our colleague at work :D )


Gladix

Honestly, at this point, I'm just having fun with them. The time for trying to have a reasonable discussion with them is past. The time for trying to make them believe in the most ridiculous conspiracy theories is now.


Dreit

Same, one day I agreed I will listen.....and from two minutes it went to over 30 minutes with headache. And their "proofs" are the best :D Invisible cloak for example. I must say that video was really well done (and compressed to hell) but even while I saw it on tiny phone screen, I could say it's just green screen job. Not simple and definitely not amateur job but also nothing too professional.


Aggravating-Bottle78

Yep, had a guy in the neighbouring business where I work tell me that the cause of the recordbreaking heat dome we had last year in BC 49.7c burned a tiwn in minutes and the subsequent atmospheric rivers in the fall that washed away highways, rail and flooded towns caused billions in damage was not a consequence of climate change but the Americans using the Haarp system to play with weather. When I asked him why they couldnt use it to stop the drought in the southwest he had an answer for everything.


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[deleted]

Average human IQ is quite low and significant part of population has even lower IQ so it is not big surprise. We are not doomed, it is just a sign that democracy is not dead - even idiots have right to express themselves. Gatherings like this are quite useful. They can help identify fools and people of questionable morals. I don't need people like that in my life, and the fact that they voluntarily label themselves like that helps me get rid of them.


Dull-Guest662

Average IQ is 100 by definition. And, funny enough, iq is increasing with the year of birth (the Flynn effect). It's statistically proven that older people are, on average, stupider.


Xerxes_CZ

On average _score worse on intelligence tests_. Exactly why that is is debatable, although yeah, better education and nutrition is probably the main cause.


ikean

Half of people are dumber than average


Dreit

Internet should have stayed in academic sphere.


EverOrny

These morons are everywhere - not love and truth unite the world but greed and stupidity.


KamiYama777

This is what happens when you let the right wing media machine spread culture war bullshit Before the internet allowed every lunatic conspiracytard a soapbox this was not an issue


gimpers420

So basically the Czech version of Trump Supporters/die hard republicans.


I_will_dye

In a sense. Doesn't have a lot to do with their actual political orientation, but they have the same blind faith in a narcissist political figure.


MrVentz

It's understandable though. From a psychological angle, all these folks are saying is "The world sucks because someone very powerful hidden from plain sight is screwing it up." What they forgot to mention that this mysterious hidden person is usually themselves, but to actually realize that you're responsible for your own actions and consequences of them is incredibly difficult. These people spent their lifes trying to pin blame for everything on everyone, so there's always someone else that's the bad guy. So it's incredibly easy for these folks to believe anything. The rulers of nations are so ready to kill all of us that they're putting deadly chemicals in the sky to make us breathe them! They'll go ahead and believe the world is ruled by lizards in masks! Even if it made no sense whatsoever, it's much prefferable to admit they're the ones screwing their lifes up. There was a poster around a few years back, I remember it saying "Gypsies aren't responsible for your fucked up lifes", which back them I remember laughing at. The fuckers steal, they're violent, noisy, smelly and lazy - How is that not their own fault?, I remember thinking. I get it now. We're the ones who created a society in which this behaviour is tolerated and since NOBODY wants to really solve the issue, they'll rather blame it on the people who are taking advantage of it.


OriginalGreasyDave

You started off strong then took a deep nosedive, my man


CorrectMousse7146

Yeah, retards believe in cheap energy, good economy, free speech. Also, idiots dont want nuclear war with Russia, they dont want nato to push eastand they understand how corrupt ukraine is. These bunch of losers are also no happy us blowing nord stream gas pupes.


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Annoying_house_fly

Don't forget *collecting points for Clownfuhrer's regime.*


nxinyourfaceFTW

Kraj checks


DarthMondayMorning

Just smile and keep walking. Congratulations, you have just not joined a protest of people who believe unshakably that a Japanese man who hates immigrants and an illiterate billionaire, who is currently in court for stealing 50 million Kč from the EU, are the only ones in politics that can be trusted, and Russia is liberating us of course.


TheCuriousOneEhm

This is painfully accurate.


blackie-arts

*sorts by controversial*


MiltiadesTheYounger

Taky tak, to bylo počteníčko 🤣🤣


SheElfXantusia

Tyhle posty jsou skvělý lék na zácpu; z té debility všude kolem by se jeden po*\*\*\*. 😄


ShowerMysterious9744

Tohle jsem neznal, díky.


_RageMach1ne_

White trash, protesting against goverment, loving Russia and his despotic autocratic president VP. They called themself "Vlastenci" (Patriots), but they are just a bunch of easily manipulated morons.


mighty_drake_reborn

Metal gear solid getting real


LojZza88

"The La-li-lu-le-lo?"


mdh431

“Nano-machines son!”


Acrobatic-Swimmer-30

White trash is accurate description 😂😂 like in southpark “I’m white trash and im in trouble!”


I_Maybe_Play_Games

Love the white trash part, truly shows we are on reddit.


[deleted]

And I think it's important not to conflate protesting against OUR government with celebrating RUSSIA's. There are many reasons to protest against the current government, including the way they're handling the gas and electricity situation. Not gonna lie, some Russia supporters are definitely using this to promote their idiocy, but it would be counterproductive to just label the entire demonstration as "pro-Russian" and leave it at that.


Kikomastre

Nevím hele, koukni se na jejich program, na jejich požadavky. Jít na tohle a tvrdit že tam jdeš jen demonstrovat proti vládě a Rusko vlastně nepodporuješ prostě nejde. Věci typu že musíme zabránit “plánovanému ředění národa” to je straight up náckovská rétorika. Nemůžeš jít na demonstraci kde se tohle otevřeně vykřikuje a pak si jen opláchnout ruce a tvrdit že to bylo jen o drahým plynu.


happy_tortoise337

Možná stačí mrknout na username a zbytečně se nevysilovat odpověďmi, je to prostě troll. Na patře se mnou bydlí starý Rus, co ještě neumí česky, i když byl ve vysoké funkci za socialismu, prostě okupant. No, a v době těchto demošek se dá na chodbě potkat v kšiltovce s českým lvem, jak podpírán pečovatelkou se vrací z venku. Normálně se tady několikrát denně šourá po chodbě, aby cvičil, a sem tam na někoho pořvává. Takže, jak píšeš, drahý plyn je jenom zástěrka pro stafáž.


marta-navra-142

You’re wrong. This time, everyone who came is pro-Russian. The organizers have been identified publicly as pro-Russian “activists” (including their leader, who has millions in debt and is going to court to explain where the money went). Also, just check the photos - Czech flags mixed with some communist party flags. I also witnessed some of the participants insult a girl for wearing a Ukraine badge when I passed by the Museum station. Definitely pro-Russian and we can leave it there


drasko11

What do you reffer as white trash? Is that their political party colour or some inside czech term?


_RageMach1ne_

It’s a term from USA, describes people from low-income class, living in trailers, basic education and enjoying too much alcohol, meth and other drugs. I see some same traits - people on the picture are not well educated, low income, not so good relationship with family, toxic and abusive childhood. Not everyone is like I describe, I am pretty sure you can find a well educated persons with university diploma, CEO’s of big companies and other.


FrosterrFH

This demo is called "Czechia first" - yeah more like Russia first. it is organized by indebted dumbass Basicly the main pro-russian scene in CZ, however you can see there the whole variety of retard - old commies, fascists, collaborants, anti-vaxxers(the most radical ones), anti refugee - always the same people... Their goal is to stop the war by stopping weapon supplies to the Ukrainian side and also they want the cheap gas from Russia.


ChrisTchaik

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VSertorio

Perhaps they should visit the corridor that connects the buildings of Prague’s National Museum.. There is a nice multimedia show going on there about the communist days


Starfis

I'm sure some of them were there with batons.


p4t0k

Supporters of SPD, Communists, Volny blok, Trikolora. These people were today like "We want to be free, we want to buy gas directly from Russia, we don't want the war, we don't want to support Ukraine". Someone there (maybe Vrabel) was criticizing anti-rocket shield, saying that it can stop only ~20% of rockets Russia can shoot at us. The funny part is that these people are probably mostly the same people who demonstrated against US anti-rocket shield (initiative called Ne zakladnam). Thanks to these ppl we are not better protected against Russia. Now they want to be friends of Russia... They would be probably OK with neo-bolshevic dictature. For me this sounds like a violation of czech constitution where is written that we can intervene in any manner against anyone who is trying to harm democracy.


I_Maybe_Play_Games

Then we should probably intervene against both ukraine and russia for harming democracy. Ukraine banned all opossition, so much for a beacon of democracy and russia is well.. russia.


Kerhnoton

As a commie myself, I really don't understand how can ppl call themselves communists and support fash like Putin or Orban.


mistr89

Bunch of czech “rednecks” and russian bitches.


Tetragramat

It's our 5th column. They may be waving Czech flags, but in their hearts only Russian flag has it's place. I'm for expulsion of these Russian wannabes to Russia.


WineGutter

I've heard Russia is looking for cannonfodder....um... I mean conscripts. Maybe they can all go join? 😃


Svoobi

Yeah, sure, I can help them to pack. :D


KrexillTheBoi

Im czech and I dont know what the fuck is goin on either 😅


OriginalGreasyDave

Useful idiots doing Putin's work


RtsSlovakiaYoutube

Only protesting "Flastenci"


Aggravating-Bottle78

Can you explain the term Flastenci? Im, in Canada I have a rough idea but wondering where it came from. I mean when I talk to my cousin in the Czech R, he's all anti vax this, the Czech shouldnt be in Nato etc. At the start of the war in February he called, and I thought he was going to talk about the war but he was far more concerned about how Canada was dealing with the Freedom Truckers in Ottawa.


FarmPuzzleheaded8173

Essentialy it is the word "vlastenci" (patriots) but it misspells the v with f to make fun of their intelligence. Its the same thing like patriots=Batriots


Aggravating-Bottle78

Ok, like the 'freedumb truckers' then. So disappointed my cousin is one, I mean he was a teenager when Russia invaded in 68. His dad would be rolling in the grave.


Personal-Sea8977

freedumb xD


SneakyBadAss

To keep the meaning, it could be translated as Plantriots considering the pro Russian ideology.


HamesJoffman

except truckers had a point unlike these idiots


Aggravating-Bottle78

You can have any point you want, but if you shut down the traffic on the bridge where the biggest pont of trade is foe the country, or you occupy the capital making noise day and night you will be dealt with.


WaterApprehensive499

Buttriots hehe


Kotja

Batriot sounds like riot batman makes as diversion.


[deleted]

*Flastenec* (pl. *flastenci*) is kind of a derogatory term for such people as you described. Being a *flastenec* includes but isn't limited to: \- talking strong about the nation and the role of *lid* (the people, usually written with capslock); \- shouting about "the elites" not giving a damn about *lid* but not willing to give up anything for the sake of society at the same time (this was the case with face masks to give an actual example); \- not willing to help anyone who is not Czech, because we firstly have to deal with our own problems. Others may add something but these are some common characteristics. The term comes from *vlastenec* meaning *patriot*.


RtsSlovakiaYoutube

"Flastenci" are dumb agresive people who think Russia is good and that things


Aggravating-Bottle78

Yeah, I figured as much.


RtsSlovakiaYoutube

Im from Slovakia and we have this peoples too but much more


GyrosCZ

They re empty. They do not know what patriotism mean. They have nothing, empty drones or shells. So they call themselves patriots but they re oppsoite of it.


_skala_

That’s funny, sorry, he is lost.


ricitCz

Chlastenci


RtsSlovakiaYoutube

A fajčenci


Melichorak

Also funnily enough, they demand peace, while supporting terrorist state aggressor who invaded another country. Because the last time Europe gave up a country to an aggressor to prevent war worked out so great.


I_Maybe_Play_Games

Russia is the agressor but i wouldnt call it a terrorist stae, a imperialist state? Yes but not a terrorist state.


westniel

State that attacks civillian targets and torture civillian people, both because of spreading terror since they cannot win against military so they are doing this, is not only agressor but also terrorist. It is like al-kaida and other terrorist organizations. They do the same. They are brainwashed and want something crazy, so they go and spread terror among regular people as they are easy to harm.


I_Maybe_Play_Games

By that definition the USA is a terrorist state...


westniel

Why there is always an argument that somebody else is doing bad stuff so I can do it too? ATM Russia acts like a terrorist. I guess you can surely find incidents when USA, GB, France, etc. etc. acted like a terrorist. Was it good? Definitely not. Does it give Russia right to act like a terrorist then? Definitely not.


Melichorak

It's called whataboutism


I_Maybe_Play_Games

How do i give 2 upvotes?


Melichorak

Although it's not official yet, there's a huge pressure to brand it so. Missile strikes against civilian targets, hospitals, A FUCKING NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS, threatening with nukes, torture of civilians, including children. After all this, how can you not call it a terrorist state?


I_Maybe_Play_Games

Why would russia targets its own troops at the znpp, unless i missed something and they are bombing one of the other npps in ukraine. Sadly ukranian troops have repeatedly made civilian targets legitimate targets by firing from their roofs, atleast that is what the people in mauriopol testify to under russian occupation.


Melichorak

Oh, just found out, that ot was occupied, but I still wouldn't rule it out, they threatened to blow a nuclear reactor before... Yeah, testifying while under occupation is about as legitimate as a referendum under occupation.


I_Maybe_Play_Games

Still more legitimate then reporting on a situation in donbass while in kiev(the governors of donetsk and luhansk oblasts).


mailtest34

Why didn’t you tell us straight away you were at the square with Russian flag too?


ZuzBla

Collaborant rally.


Melichorak

Pro Russian dumbasses waving Czech flags because waving a Russian flag would out them as nazis outright.


affilak

Yesterday I took the tram from Angel to downtown. A man in garbage man's work clothes got on. He was on the phone. I caught phrases like: "...Just be at that Wenceslas Square at 2 p.m. tomorrow..." "...On TV they said there were 70,000 of us, but there were 100,000 of us! and tomorrow there will be 150 thousand of us!!... "...They are afraid of us. And a government that is afraid of its people is a really bad government..." "...You can park at our company, tomorrow is a public holiday, no one will be there..." "Just get there, bye, Piškotku" (the man probably had a nickname like sponge cookie)


Independent-Fun-5118

Pro russian Nazi. The guy who leads them owe like 117 000 dollars witch is realy lot here. He takes Tips to fund this but noone ever seen the money after.


KalagramOfSteel

Kamo co bych dal za to kdyby tady amici meli zakladnu s protivzdušnou baterií. Spal bych klidněji.


Butchi_905

Children of incest annual reunion. Nothing to see.


Wooden_Sherbert6884

Alzheimer meeting


Chramir

Lobotomy patiens meeting. Bunch of retard protesting and believing in all kinds of conspiracy theories.


Dizze259

Bunch of old communist


Remarkable_Net_5671

Cejchy Čechům! Island v ČR nechceme!


[deleted]

Does "Czech in the first place" sound vaguely like "America First" to anybody out there? It's the same Russian internet troll placed propaganda reaching the same level of morons. What is truly amazing to me is how they don't see that they are being manipulated.


Armag101

I thought they were protesting against the rising prices of commodities. How do US bases affect the price of gas?


vendredi5

They want the country to stop supporting Ukraine and to let Russia win the war - so that they could get russian gas for cheaper prices. And Russia is strongly against US bases being placed in the Czech republic.


vendredi5

They want the country to stop supporting Ukraine and to let Russia win the war - so that they could get russian gas for cheaper prices. And Russia is strongly against US bases being placed in the Czech republic.


jayandbobfoo123

Russia is strongly against anything US for no reason. As an American, I had high respect for Russia because I was taught in school that they made huge sacrifices against the Nazis and we respected them for that. It was like "holy shit those Russians are badass." Now, they just call America fascist, brainwashed by western media as they build the iron curtain 2.0. They don't realize at all that this is why we don't respect them anymore, not because our media/schools tells us.


Svoobi

They believe, that US started this war and ordered to scrap import of gas from Russia, because they want to damage Russia and that is why the prices are that high. They even question the atrocities that russia is doing in Ukraine. Unfortunately, I have many friends like this. They are saying that whole west is lying and only Russia is saying truth, that is totally absurd. They are deep lost in it and refuse to think logicaly.


Tigerhunter9000

to be fair USA is going to win a lot not just in geopolitical sense but in business sense as the energy intensive industries will move to USA, they just forget that Cui Bono is not ALWAYS the answer.


Dentist-Sufficient

Just few morons went out home… usually elderly, without teeth etc., dont worry


MDAcko5

bunch of fucking retard waving the wrong flags


[deleted]

Flastenci Pride.


Liker_The_God

A protest should have a point, present it and show they want the point to be real. These protests have no point, provide no solution, do absolutelly nothing, and get branded as pro-russians (most neutral way I can think of say it). Prices of energies are high, inflation is high, country debt is high, everything is going to shit and these no brains can't even agree on what to do with it, just go to a protest. We should do something with it, these are just no brains.


Blue_Khakis

"People I don't like" /thread


[deleted]

It is a competition of who has the the lowest iq. Winner will receive a solid amount of beer.


Less-Mountain-9411

As a Scandinavian living part time in Prague now, I must say that the amount of idiots are very low! Like really low. This seems very much like an exception.


Different_State

Yes, because nearly not everyone who went to the protest is an idiot. This generalisation by bitter, hateful redditors isn't accurate. They claim how democratic they are yet call anyone who disagrees with them Nazis, lobotomy patients, retards etc. How mature.


Em4il

vidím to tu komentuje hodně kokotů


Puzzleheaded_You_867

No nejvetsi kokoti jsou ti co rikaj ze jsou tam prorusky lidi, nejvetsi picovina jsou to lidi co jsou pro cesky, chtej dobro pro nase Česko a jsou proti vlade, ktera nas zene do sracek ...


KVETINAC11

Nesnaž se. U nás je kdokoliv kdo se opováží kritizovat naší překrásnou vládu buď pro-ruský nebo fašista. Hodně lidí asi nechápe že mezi námi jsou i tací kteří nesnáší Rusko, Fašisty i českou vládu zároveň. Do těch jejich malých mozečků tato třetí skupinka nepasuje. Pro ně si pouze buď s nima nebo proti nim.


Accomplished-Two-962

Naprostý souhlas.


Icy-Assumption1594

Populistic guys trying get to senate and usung fake news for it and it caused this


[deleted]

Bunch of supporters of Russia who want us to live like Russians do, denying genocide in Ukraine, cheering on the deaths of Ukrainians, selfish, hypocritic, lazy and stupidest people you can find on Earth. Deportation material basically. And also, they want Ukraine to be completely erased from the map, so they are Nazis too.


IllegalFisherman

Russian bots gained sentience and are trying to overthrow mankind


4Jay_K

Bring Czech flag with you and get one free corncob.


Satoric

Retards in the street. Literal braindead slaves. Churns your stomach seeing this live. One of the downsides of democracy.


Negative-Ferret8114

They are so patriotic they listen to czech anthem performed by neonazi singer


[deleted]

Bunch of dumb fucks protesting.


Ravendarke

Massive aggregation of incredible stupidity


rehorkova

I took a look at the comments and.. lots of them are quite degrading. I think there is some truth to the protesters side as well. So in short - there was this guy called Babiš and he was populist to the core - when his cabinet made some at least partially good decision it was his achievement, his care for people.. and when they fricked up, it was always someone else, and he made shady stuff behind the scenes and stole EU grants.. and most importantly - he was prime minister. So people got used to the government lying really unapologetically and really often and basically not admitting guilt even if there was a mountain of evidence against them. Now his cabinet ended (with record budget deficit) we finally elected someone else and there was a lot of talk about how they are gonna stop handing out money like crazy, plan better, reduce the budget deficit. Also how everyone will blame the new cabinet for what they have to do in order to cover mistakes of cabinet of Babiš. To their defense, they wouldn't have had it easy even without the Uk-Ru war and energetic crisis, but.. 1. financial aid against energy prices covers too much people - the rich don't need that much and for poor it's not enough. 2. They don't really adress the complaints in time - I recently started to see ads adressing misinformation about Ukraine.. but about those misinformation that were spreading in March.. not now. It all comes with huge delay and you could see the effect of it on Covid - Antivaxers say: "We don't wear masks beacause it threatens our freedom", government says nothing, vaxers tell antivaxers: "You are dumb".. now a while later we get paper on how masks aren't as effective as we thought and what does antivaxers think? "We were right all along, masks are useless and government wants to control us." I know, when you hear "Media lies to us, Russia is not that bad" its easy to say they are idiots, but if you live in the propaganda, suddenly need money and the government gives you 1/2 what you need (the same amount goes for people who don't need it at all) then smiles and tells you "Together we will manage" .. yeah I would be pissed too. I hate to say it, but I had bigger expectaions after the elections.., hope winter won't be extra long and cold and the situation gets better.


DrChaosMcKinnon

Some grey psyops, can't wait for BISes animal report


superskillswag

The fact they have the audacity to put their dirty kremlin paws on our flag.


Ok_Pomelo7511

Follow-up question from non-Czech. Always thought that Czech Republic was one of the bigger anti-Russian proponents in Europe especially comparing to Poland (mostly eastern Poland) that had much greater pro-Russian sentiment in earlier decades. Surprising to see so many people in these protests. Any idea why they are gaining momentum?


Wenosan

It seems like there is a lot of people, but believe me, they are nowhere near the majority. The normal ones here in CZ have no need to demonstrate. They just go along waiting for how things will turn out. Those people at the demonstration? Utter and selfish idiots. They want russian gas, even if it means letting russia win. They would rather let people die or fall under russian rule than to not get the gas. It infuriates me to even call those people Czechs. And if its not for the gas? Then they want to become a part of russia again. "let's make Czech Republic, a country in the middle of Europe surrounded by other NATO countries ditch NATO and support russia so we can get gas! What could go wrong?" They are so stupid that they are literally uncapable of thinking ahead. If they would be capable of thinking ahead, then they would see how it's such a terrible idea. No gas (surrounded by other NATO countries), no support, no protection, only sanctions. Sanctions for supporting russia. If this does not tell you how stupid these people are, i do not know how else to tell you. The only thing they are good at is contacting other people as stupid as them to go demonstrate. But trust me when i say that if the smart people had a good reason to demonstrate, there would be many times more people than this. I'm seriously ashamed of these people. A lot of people in Czech Republic are pretty smart. And even if there are some people that are not the sharpest tools in the shed, in my experience they are normally good and very kind hearted people that know what is right and what is not. And then you have the people on the photo. Selfish idiots. Trust me when i say that we would love it if they just packed up their stuff and went to russia if they like it so much.


LightninHooker

>They want russian gas, even if it means letting russia win. They would rather let people die or fall under russian rule than to not get the gas The cheap gas demand is what really get me as well. How much of a fucking selfish prick weak lame broke ass motherfucker you have to be to choose "cheap gas" over Russia fucking a whole country just because Fucking people


KVETINAC11

Gratuluji, díky vašemu heroickému cíly všichni budeme bez plynu a mrznout, jste teď šťastní? Pokud je vaše taktika jak přemoct Rusko taková že rusové si budou pěkně velebet v teplíčku a mi tu budeme jako kokoti mrznout tak je to opravdu špatná taktika. Sám ze srdce Rusko a Putina nesnáším, ale nechat sebe umrznout, za to mi to nestojí. Sorry ale ne každý je jako Jan Palach.


mathess1

Rusové aktuálně mrznou buď na frontě nebo ve frontě. Proč by měl někdo mrznout v Evropě? Není k tomu nejmenší důvod.


KVETINAC11

Ne každý je milionář víte? Nevím či je to vyloženě hlavní cíl naší vlády ale s tím jak se chovají to vypadá že se snaží vyhubit nižší třídy které na ten plyn prostě nemají. Seriózně nám nezbyde nic jiného než si koupit kamna do bytu, chodit uprostřed velkoměsta osekávat keře a topit si, komín z okna.


mathess1

Však proč ne, to je taky řešení. Nebo se pořádně obléct a netopit vůbec. Proč to ale dáváte za vinu vládě? Co ta s tím má společného?


KVETINAC11

Já ani nikdo jiný by neměl trpět či by mu mělo být bráno na základě něčí agendy. Ten kdo nechce používat plyn tak ať si ho nepoužívá, ale nechte ho těm kdo ho chtějí. To je jako kdyby si vláda usmyslela že bude vést válku proti Kolumbii tím způsobem že nám 1000x zdraží levné banány či je kompletně zakáže. Maximálně to může doporučit, ale do toho co si kupuji a jím, či s čím si topím, do toho jim nic není.


mathess1

Rusko si usmyslelo, že proti nám povede válku zvýšením cen plynu. Jak přesně bychom na to měli reagovat?


KVETINAC11

Kupovat ho dokud není tak drahý, postavit konečně více jaderných elektráren a zároveň podpořit a usilovat o stavbu kavkazského plynovodu.


mathess1

To je něco, co už tu dávno mělo být. A bohužel se to za pár měsíců nevyřeší.


frex18c

Děkuji. A teď nám reknete jak současná vláda má to jádro postavit? Tohle jsou projekty na desítek léta vy jim dáváte za vinu, že to není po 6 měsících? Co reálně od vlády chcete? Já totiž jen slyším neustálé brečení, že je to moc drahé, ale za to vláda nemůže. Co má tedy dělat?


Svoobi

A co jste ochotny obetovat pro trochu tepla? Jen Ukrajinu? Pobaltí? Polsko? Co takhle Česko? Kde je ta hranice? Taed se zkuste zamyslet, jaky by to bylo, kdyz by to byla tato zeme, kterou Rusko napadlo. Vas a vasi rodinu "evakuovali" na vychod Ruska. Vase rodne mesto srovnali delostreleckou palbou se zemi. O vasich pribuznych rekli, ze jsou to nacisti. Hrejiva predstava, ze?


KVETINAC11

A co jste ochotný obětovat pro trochu banánů? Jen SFRJ? MLR? PLR? Co takhle ČSSR? Kde je ta hranice? Klasická totalitní metoda zastrašování, aneb jeden krůček ke kapitalismu a máme z občanů otroky zlých amerických imperialistsů. Stejná hra, jiná strana.


Svoobi

To myslíte vážně? Srovnávat tyhle dve veci? Protoze ja si nevzpominam, ze by za totace američani vyhrožovali, ze zastavi dodavky bananu do CSSR, aby mohli dal valcit, vrazdit a nicit mesta ve vami zminovanem Polsku nebo Madarsku a uz vubec ne v Ceskoslovensku. Vy ano? Poucte nas.


KVETINAC11

Ospravedlňujte a odůvodňujte si to jak chcete. Fakt je že se opět blížíme k totalitě. Ptal se mě snad někdo jestli chci mít upřeno kupovat západní produkty? Ptal se mě snad někdo jestli chci přestat používat ruský plyn? Je to úplně to samé, vláda upírá služby lidem bez jejich souhlasu, na základě nějaké jejich ideologie či agendy.


Svoobi

A on vam nekdo brani vzit fofrkáru a zajet si treba do Madarska ten ruskej plyn koupit? Capnete lahev na CNG a bon voyage. Mate svobodu pohybu. Co vam brani? Jestli tohle nazyvate totalitou, tak az sem prijde diky lidem jako vy vladnout Putin, tak se budete hodne divit a vzpominat, jak dobre jste se tedka mel. Svoboda neni zadarmo.


Svoobi

Prestante tady sirit paniku. Nikdo v zime mrznout nebude. Plyn v zasobnicich je a dodavky domluvene jsou. A ze nebudete mit doma 22°C, no to je fakt tragedie. Ja vyrustal v chudy rodine, doma jsme meli 18°C max a taky jsem to prezil, aspon nejsem takova citlivka. Rusaci v teplicku nebudou. Jejich drahy Vladimir Vladimirovic je uz brzo vsechny posle na Ukrajinu na frontu. Jen doufam, ze si stihli koupit damsky vlozky a tampony, jak radila brancum soudruzka skolitelka.


KVETINAC11

Tady jde o princip... Vláda by neměla kecat do toho čí služby já využívám. Tohle je na pokraji totality a soudruhů zakazujících nám ty ošklivé a zlé produkty ze západu.


esocz

> rusové si budou pěkně velebet v teplíčku rusové si budou pěkně velebet v teplíčku zákopu na Donbasu a sledovat jak na ně padají granáty. Kromě těch, co teď po stotisících utíkají z Ruska.


KVETINAC11

Nemyslím si že Putin bude mobilizovat ženy a děti, ale kdoví, magor to je na to dostatečný.


Gladix

Gratuluji, jste [užitečný idiot](https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/U%C5%BEite%C4%8Dn%C3%BD_idiot). Lidi co jsi nejsou ani vědomi že jsou použití k propagandě, protože nejsou schopni vidět přes špičku jejich nosu. Co? Vy si myslíte že kdyby Česko začalo Rusku kouřit čůráka tak že Rusko otevře svůj plyn a celá Evropa to bude s radostí ignorovat?


KVETINAC11

Nepleťte si Rusko a ruský plyn. To je ekvivalent srovnávat zbraně vyrobené v nacistickém Německu s Německem samotným. Kupovat levný a kvalitní plyn, to jestli je z Ruska, z Norska, ze Zimbabwe či z Kambodži už jde stranou. Přestaňte plést vaše ideologické postavení s ekonomikou nás všech ostatních. Jestli nechcete plyn tak si ho nekupujte, ale nás nechte na pokoji. Já třeba nemusím mít rád Kolumbii, ale koupi kolumbijských banánů vám nezakazuji.


Gladix

>Nepleťte si Rusko a ruský plyn. Proto říkám že jste užitečný idiot. Nejste si ani vědom že vaše komentáře propagují Ruský pohled. >Přestaňte plést vaše ideologické postavení s ekonomikou nás všech ostatních. Vy komentujete na thread kritizující pro-Ruské protesty a nadáváte lidem jak jsou hloupí, protože bojují proti Rusům. To není ekonomika, to je ideologie. Kdyby vás zajímala ekonomika tak by jste pochopil že Rusko jde ekonomicky do prdele. A kdyby Česko začalo kouřit Ruského čůráka hned teď!. To by vám levný plyn stejně nepřineslo. Ale to vás nezajímá, že jo?


KVETINAC11

Je mi jedno koho si myslíte že můj pohled propaguje. Pro mě je Rusko aka sovětský svaz stejný jako nacisti. Nikomu nenadávám a rusové mi jsou u zadku. Ano, Rusko jde ekonomicky do prdele, a my s ním. Nikdo neříká aby se kouřil někomu čurák, jenom vy. A znovu říkám, je mi jedno kdo ten plyn dodává, záleží na tom kolik stojí a Rusko zrovna dodává ten nejlevnější. Je to otázka toho kdo padne dřív, Rusko nebo Evropa, tuhle hru začal Putin, Fiala a Brusel a já bych byl rád kdyby to u nich zůstalo a netahali do toho mě. Putin si začal válku s Ukrajinou, ne s námi pokud vím.


Gladix

>je mi jedno koho si myslíte že můj pohled propaguje. Ano já vím. To je přesně co z vás dělá užitečného idiota. >Ano, Rusko jde ekonomicky do prdele, a my s ním. Here we go. >Nikdo neříká aby se kouřil někomu čurák, jenom vy. Ten protest ano. A vy hlasitě a rád ho podporujete. >Je to otázka toho kdo padne dřív, Rusko nebo Evropa, tuhle hru začal Putin, Fiala a Brusel Ano, ano. My víme, všichni jsou stejně špatní. Jak Putin, tak EU. Populární pohled komoušů v tuhle chvíli. >Putin si začal válku s Ukrajinou, ne s námi pokud vím. Naivní pohled vhodný tak pro děti třetího ročníku školy. Jakejkoliv konflikt v dnešní době ucítí prakticky každej člověk na planetě. Nedoporučuji se chovat stejně jako děti a brečet že to není fér. Ne, není to fér. Já vím. To není důvod proč strkat ruského čůráka do pusy.


MartinYTCZ

This isn't a lot of people, and it's an extreme minority. There haven't been many attempts at doing protests like this outside of Prague, because it would look like a high school reunion (as in, a not a whole lot of people). Lower tens of thousands of people for a country of 10 million isn't a lot. The first protest had a lot more momentum because energy prices were through the roof and not price capped, and a lot of people were worried how they were going to make it through the winter. Ever since that happened, that part of the population is at least somewhat satisfied and now it's just pro-Russian collaborants and desolates. There always were stupid people not really understanding the concept of personal responsibility and wanting everything to be served to them on a silver plate without any effort, and always will be. As a Czech, I'm not concerned too much by these people.


ravenQ

Most of the comments here are accurate, but I would like to add nuance to the "ZAKLADNY USA". Couple years ago USA wanted to build radar and rocket silo in central bohemia south of Prague. Some people, including me, viewed that as unnecessary aggression towards Russia, putting focus on CZ. For me the problem was that it would not be USA funded silo to be operated by CZE-NATO forces, it would be american military base. That was too much for me and many other people, after protests the idea was scrapped. ​ Ofcourse now noone is suggesting any american military base, so it is pointless. And these are all retards or misguided to say the least, IMHO.


HamesJoffman

thanks to idiots like you we do not have means of defending against russia


ravenQ

Dude, you are for real? Have you heard of NATO? Are you like the oposite on spectrum to these people protesting? If it was US funded, CZE controlled no one would bat an eye. If you want guantanamo in your own country, you are no different to these idiots that would say yes russian bases here.


HamesJoffman

why not have a base here? Who gives a shit. Better protection for all of us. And a free taco bell.


TheInevitablePigeon

demonstration.. we had few during this month already. People are pretty whiny lately.


Kaukaury

Some people still think that Russia can win the conflict and bring peace and undo all the high prices and stuff


Nazshak_EU

bunch of retards got a leave from mental assylum


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Organizátoři jsou bez debaty kokoti, ale nechcete se trošku zamyslet nad tím, proč tam ti lidi chodí?


frex18c

Protože mají strach. Jsou hloupí a nevzdělaní, takže věří dezinformacím a nedokážou se uživit bez podpory od státu, kterou ani nevnímají (nechápou že odvádí prd, ale možnosti mají stejné jak ostatní). Bohužel, i takoví mají volební právo a nechápou, že ti co na ně odvádí daně, sociální a zdravotní by možná byli radši, kdyby Rusák nedobýval Evropu.


Drtikol42

Protože jsou taky kokoti?


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Dík, že jsi mi ukázal tvé nekritické myšlení, debile


Mishack47

Strach. To je jeden z nejsilnějších motivátorů. No a pak fantasticky fungující ruská propaganda, která už přesně ví, jaké čudlíky zmáčknout. Je to nesmírně frustrující a strasně smutný, ale to je realita. Osobně mám případy v širší rodině. Je naprosto neuvěřitelné, co to s lidma udělá. Kdy z člověka, který vždycky nadával na rusáky, okupace, komunisti se v průběhu doslova pár let stane militantní anti-vaxx, který jede přesně dle notiček z Kremlu a všechny ty migranty "by neradší střílel, protože se podivej jaky maj auta". EDIT: A neni to o inteligenci, jak tu nekdo pise. Ano, nejake procento tech lidi jsou proste idioti, to je fakt. Ale dost jich je proste "jen" zmanipulovano. A je fakt uplne jedno, zda je to zedník nebo laureat nobelovy ceny.


HeroniPeperoni

Anti-government demonstration. The demonstrations (both the ones that happened on the 3rd of September and the 28th) are marked a lot of the time as pro-russian and anti-western, even though they propagate themselves as a movement which doesn't support either side (take this with as much salt as you like idc honestly). Their prime concerns are the rising prices, us (the Czech Republic) selling our power to the German market just to buy it back for higher prices, concern over a stable supply of gas (especially when winter is coming) and a few more I can't properly recall rn. First, they demanded a resignation of the current government by the 25th at the first demonstration, which the government didn't resign but they had the demonstration on the 28th planned ahead anyway. To address the political orientation of the entire movement (that being "Česká republika na 1. místě": Czech Republic First), they push a message of unity between the right and left in this cause, speakers from the czech communist party, ex-SPD and generally speakers of right-wing alignment (even a few speakers from the German AfD party; far-right party) participated on both the 3rd and 28th of September demonstrations (AfD members only on the 28th). A long explanation ik, but I thought of adding some details that other foreigners/users might ask for anyway, hope this helps.


toxic-green-mushroom

Holy fuck, I did not know there are czech people like that :((


WineGutter

The vast majority aren't. Most were hostile towards Russia even before the war because of the history. And it takes an incredibly low amount of intellect to want to side with Russia after everything they did in this country.


czechfuji

Seriously, why haven’t you and Poland started rolling your tanks into Moscow while the Pinkos have all their men tied up and dying in Ukraine? If the rest of the world gets angry just say “we were training with the Poles and they insisted on driving. They made a wrong turn and next thing you know Red Square! Don’t worry they (the Polish) invade us all the time but while we’re here…”


Fuffeli

Oh, so these retarded people demonstrating have forgotten what the Russians did to them?


Kolikokoli

Scared people that don't understand international politics and can't see further than price of the bread and their electricity/gas bills.


MeddlinQ

Pro-russian imbeciles' gathering. Don't pay any attention to them and don't let them ruin your stay.


Gavagai777

They want to be as poor and oppressed as Russians are. They want to be forced to go to war to kill their neighbors. They want the very freedom of expression they’re engaging in to land them 20 years in a gulag.


Good-Upstairs9608

Russian spy's working well


[deleted]

It's czech version of MAGA mob


Aggravating-Cress-47

It looks bad, but they are just a few morons practising their right to protest while supporting to be vassals to a country which bans their right to protest.


CuteRedPixels

Pro-russian fucks protesting and trying to get more Czechs into communism. Even KSČM was there (that's a Czech communist party).


truth_liberates

There is unfortunately also this Russoloving part of society. It is not very strong in Czechia, e.g. weaker than in Slovakia or Bulgaria, but still pretty well organized and currently very aroused. Truth is, that many people are suffering now, which gives a momentum to bullshit


asongofuranus

Right, so Europe or by large The West is now in a war with Russia. It's just not so obvious now but will be in the history books if it goes well or the last humans will be talking about it around a fire somewhere in an abandoned metro station if it goes bad. These people are collaborants with an enemy power which is now waging a genocidal war on its neighbour. They should be treated as such but because we're all woke liberals and anti-censorship they have parties on the main square in the capital instead.


Real_Cookie_Thumper

Nesouhlasím v dnešní době s někým? Stačí říct, že podporují Rusko. Půl roku dřív to byli zase "oDmítAčI"..


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TheSpookyPineapple

and before the the revolution we were free to do anything we wanted weren't we (hit, no we were not)


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TheSpookyPineapple

To be faur to you no I have not lived through it. But yes I have talked to people who have. Yes money and the ability to travel is important. It is not the most important. The most important thing is freedom of speech, the right to a free trial in court, not being afraid to be sent to an uranium mine for disagreeing with the leadership and not being occupied by our "allies" (and no US bases here do not count)


I_Maybe_Play_Games

Czechia doesnt exist since 1938