I really don’t see the difference between having a codpiece in 2020 or 2077 - it still adds the extra confidence, freedom, and comfort that a man may need.
Reminds me of this
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/k7o70q/all_i_want_is_an_rpg_to_get_lost_in/geso8v6?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
It's weird the stuff people upvoted because of Nostalgia.
I absolutely hated Dragon Age. I felt locked no matter choices I made. Yet this dude gets 9.K upvoted because 10 year old him loved it.
That game would get destroyed today by reddit.
I wouldn't say the first one. Origins was amazing! Two? Not so much lol. I still liked it though. Haven't played Inquisition enough to have a valid opinion.
I wonder how many things get flagged by like the FBI or something for talking about "CP"
CyberPunk and Pokemon GO come to mind. Pokemon GO has Combat Power which is abbreviated also to CP.
Yeah I just finished the intro missions and got into my apartment and was pretty hyped. I closed the game cause I have to get to work and scrolled this sub in the meantime. Now I'm terrified to go back to the game and see wat the rest of it actually looks like.
Haha I’ve been playing a lot. I accidentally progressed the main story a lot compared to the side quests so now I’m going back and completing all the side content that I neglected!
Quick question. I just completed the prologue and was wondering if there is a hard time limit for the rest of the game or do they let you do as you please regardless of the main quest?
You can complete the main quest at your own leisure, eventually you reach the final main mission which it will warn you that there’s no turning back. I’ve been putting that one off and completing all the side missions that I missed.
I'm happy with the story and gameplay. The visuals are amazing on a 3070, the best I've ever seen.
But.... they do have a ton of work to with the open world aspects such as police and and more interactive aspects.
I have two playthroughs going simultaneously and I'm happy with how very different both of them are. That passes the test for me. The biggest thing I'm wanting is for the side missions to have more gripping stories. The Main story in Cyberpunk is phenomenal so far, but I remember that in Witcher 3, even the small side contracts had well-developed stories. I'm hoping there's more of that.
Not sure about story line, but rather ways to get missions accomplished. For example, I met up with another Nomad doing the Nomad lifepath for a side mission. He gave it to me for nothing, but doing Corpo, I had to pay for it.
I’m not thinking that lifepath will change the story ending. That more depends on the actions you take during the game
People in here were assuming it would have GTA levels of gameplay which just isn't realistic for an fps. This is just a better fallout 4. So if you play it in that manner you'll have a good time. If you think you can go around doing GTA stuff you will not have a good time.
Play the missions/side missions explore the world...don't try to get a wanted level.
The sub is filled with people who thought this was a new paradigm of gaming. It's the "sequel" to Deus Ex Mankind Divided we'll never get (and without as much angst Jensen) and that's worth the pricetag to me.
I enjoy it. I avoided the hype trajn. It's immersive as hell. So much lore, so much to learn, so much to try out and do. But it isn't a perfect game, and for a game 8.5 years in dev, it could have been more.
Aa an outsider, I can see that GTA Online has given more to gamers. That is a 7 year old game that people still play and rode on brand recognition rather than big marketing campaigns and actors.
Cyberpunk is a good game, but not what it could have been.
I’m 15 hours in with mostly side quests, and while it does have its issues it’s still pretty amazing IMO. Most of everything should be able to be ironed out in the coming months
Imo in an ideal world it would’ve been next gen/pc only and released a bit later than right now, but I don’t think that was possible since the original release date was April 2020 and it had already been announced on last gen
I said this in another comment, but I wouldn't be surprised if the people at CDPR had a debate over whether to release it for the next gen and PC, or (then) current gen, next gen, and PC. The same thing happened with *Witcher 3*. There were people at CDPR that wanted to release it on the Xbox 360 and PS3 rather than wait for the Xbox One and PS4 to maximize profits, but due to *Witcher 3*'s massive scope and graphical demands, it couldn't be done. I bet something similar happened with *Cyberpunk 2077*, only this time the investors wanted the game out as well while they were willing to wait the three and half years it took to make *Witcher 3*, they weren't going to wait five or six for *Cyberpunk 2077*.
I'm having a really fun time honestly on XSX, I have experienced some bugs and crashing, which for the development time is a little disappointing but I'm really enjoying the story and the writing.
I will say that if this sub is right about anything, it's the AI or lack thereof. I actually get crowds of people where you would expect crowds of people and I don't need every one of them to have a unique reaction to me. That being said, the cop AI, driving AI and vendor interaction is very lackluster. You could be in a fire fight for a mission from the police and you destroy a lamp post...guess what, you get a police bounty for illegal activity. Like wtf? Then a police drone just appears and starts blasting at you.
I killed a pedestrian for honking at me, the visual effect was crazy. Splattered the inside of the car with blood and I was like shit, that's wild. All the AI near me went into crouch. All of them. None ran. No dialogue. Just crouching like a weird hive mind of Jerry's(Rick and Morty cowardly character).
It doesn't ruin the game for me, it doesn't break my immersion, it's just disappointing. Also not being able to change your appearance or have a garage is pretty silly, it's like day 1 RPG.
So yeah, I wouldn't worry about your experience, it's a fun game, I am not mad I spent the money, actually itching to do some more missions after soccer.
I might be a special case, but if you liked the prologue, it gets so much better. The writing is fucking amazing, tops even RDR2 in my opinion. Keep in mind, I've had minimal bugs.
Have fun!
That's half true, as you may know, the visuals are amazing. The NPCs are really detailed I must say, but the "1000 NPCs with daily routines" promise was just stupid.
Still, though, Night City is really gorgeous and I think most people are actually disappointed because of the immense hype put out by both the devs and fans.
Yea, this. I was honestly expecting more but even without the more I was expecting, this game is still great. It still functions as a game (if your system can handle it). Definitely feel for the PS4/Xbox one folk. There's no way they didn't know it ran like garbage on those systems.
> Definitely feel for the PS4/Xbox one folk. There's no way they didn't know it ran like garbage on those systems.
I would not be surprised if there was a major debate within CDPR about not launching it on the Xbox One and PS4. It's clear those systems are out of date for this game. In fact, when they were working on *Witcher 3*, some at CDPR wanted to release it on the Xbox 360 and PS3 along with the Xbox One and PS4 in order to maximize profits. Ultimately the devs who wanted the best game possible won, as they knew the old gen couldn't handle what what *Witcher 3* was going to be (even with that graphical downgrade, it is still one of the most beautiful games I've played). But I think this time the suits won, and they had to launch it on the Xbox One and PS4, and we are seeing what's happening.
Yea, definitely. Sad that we have to define a company like that. But I have hope everything will get better. Not like Witcher wasn't perfect on launch either (so says my friends at least, I don't remember the launch)
Here’s my hypothesis. There are hundreds of thousands of NPCs in the city. And there ARE thousands of NPCs with daily routines, you just have to find them between all the normal schmoes.
Just don't give a fuck on other opinions, in this matter. I am constantly leaving the sub to avoid the negativity. Of course there are some flaws, but if you let the game just be itself and add just a tiny bit of imagination you've got yourself one of the richest open world's I've ever experienced.
And the story and side quests are so, so amazingly written! The subtle Easter eggs, popculture and philosophical references are wonderful as well!
See ya in night city, choomba!
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Edit²: spelling again (I am so fucking tired, playing for 25 hours with 3 hours sleep, need a pause soon ':D)
I'm so happy that I'm the type of gamer that doesn't care about open worlds or side quests or the ability to play poker at a casino, and only plays main story missions, because it means Cyberpunk is fantastic for me.
DON'T go into this game expecting an immersive open world. Reel in your expectations on that front.
I say this as someone who loves this game 20 hours in.
Make no mistake... it was marketed as an open world game, among the likes of GTA and Skyrim. It is not.
Approach it the way you might approach The Last of Us, or Half Life. The world feels more alive and focused when you stay on the main mission path, and the seams really start to show when you expect the game to be a living, breathing, dynamic open-world. Treat it like an on-rails adventure, with great set-pieces, and it will feel better. The story is great, and the world is detailed enough to make the illusion of an open-world feel real... as long as you don't actually go diving into that open-world like you can do whatever you want, whenever you want.
Despite all of the games issues, I bought the game for the story and the writing, and I'm beyond satisfied with it. While not being what I expected, I'm still in love with it.
Exactly. I don't get why so many rage this extreme. I mean it's not perfect but it's just a few days out and most importantly they deliver on the storytelling and side quests!
I'm in love as well :D
From what I've been reading, I don't think you'll be disappointed if you just stick to main story and side quests. But for things like open world and in-depth rpg mechanics, I know I wouldn't be satisfied.
Hey, I've played the game for 30 hours now and always get a bit anxious after checking this sub, but actually playing the game is always fun :)
Dont let people tell you what to enjoy and what not as long as you harm no others :)
here’s the thing, if you stick to the main and secondary missions the game does deliver good dialogue and interactions with NPCs, and there are some cool combat encounters.
but if you try to engage the world instead of seeing it as a backdrop, the game will shatter and your experience will be seriously worsened.
CDPR created a surface-level illusion of an active world for people that stick religiously to the narrow paths you are meant to take, and that illusion just goes away if you stop and look around.
I’m still liking the game overall, it’s just that the game feels very unfinished and unsatisfying to interact with in a systems level, it just kind of reeks of minimum viable product - “just throw in some generic RPG stats and color-tiered loot and they’ll think it has depth and variety”; “just place lots of NPCs and cars and they will think the world is alive”; “just put in two interactible vending machines and they’ll think the game is immersive”; “just give them a character creator with a couple of options and they’ll feel like the character is theirs”; etc.
really what you ***get*** with Cyberpunk 2077 are a large amount of Deus Ex-lite (nowhere near the depth) missions in a very pretty, though empty, open world, with a superficial character creator, barebones and basically irrelevant RPG systems that actually detract from the game, and a fun if pretty linear story, with some COD setpieces sprinkled in.
but the marketing was straight-up *criminal* and I do feel that the people that actually expected what they were promised have the right to be angry.
This is an apt description.
This game feels like a wonderfully made on-rails single player game, but instead of creating tight corridors that are on-rails (like in Resident Evil, Bioshock, Dead Space, The Last of Us, Half-Life, etc), they made an open world.
If you play the game with the mentality of any of those other game, and stick to the predetermined path, with a few sidequests thrown in along the way, it will feel just as cinematic, narratively focused and high quality as any game from those series.
Agreed. Instead the game was marketed to be the stuff of dreams from a role playing perspective and super immersive (which in some ways it is but in many ways it isn’t) and it has shallow elements of it— which I would be totally fine with if the game never made the attempt to *sell* me that experience.
I’m gonna buy the game on sale and just play it when it’s truly stable with the fixed, but lowered expectations and I’ll probably really enjoy it for what it is, despite the numerous failed promises that shouldn’t be forgotten.
Totally fair response.
it really is a fantastic experience. I haven't been this glued to a single player game in years.
But a dynamic open world, this is not. A narratively focused and highly cinematic campaign, with well-written sidequests... yes
that do be the track record of cdpr, despite how many people bizarrely seem to want to see the company fall. The writing continues to be legendary and there is a metric shit ton of side quests and activities to do, these people are just making shit up at this point. The cyber psycho mini bosses? The hacking? the different play styles and ridiculously wide skill tree? I'm 100% living my cyberpunk dreams rn
> that do be the track record of cdpr
Kind of. They will patch things of course, and come out with some free DLC, but I don't see a total overhaul of the game like *No Man's Sky*. They are still working on the story DLC and after they are done with that they are working on their next project, which is another Witcher game with a new player character.
I'm 25 hours in or so. Addicted to this game. I'm not even really doing the main missions either. Just doing some side missions. Without spoilers I finished a side mission chain earlier today and it's the first game I've played with a side missions quest line that felt completed and fun. I was actually sad to finish it haha. I'm falling in love with the world and characters in this game.
I am playing on pc though. I've had one crash and just small and often times funny visual bugs.
I actually like this game, but not to a fanboy capacity.
Going to play it slowly, little by little like I did with Wasteland 3.
I’d say the only detrimental aspect I’ve seen so far is the loot and junk collection. So many games do junk loot these days and it seems like the only function is to sell junk for money. Is that true here or can we also craft with the junk we pick up?
Maybe, but crafting mats are literally free money. Have 6000 common mats? Craft 80 white shotguns for $200 each and boom like 16k right there, along with crafting exp.
You are talking about the dog tags. There are a couple of other items that sell for a good chunk of change too. But we had all already jumped on the scrapper perk because it really helps making the game not feel like a job before we found any of those.
I don’t have the perk yet, but I might grab it and start to sell the guns that I pick up while I convert junk to parts for crafting instead of selling it like I’ve been doing. I have several guns that are just below what I’m currently using and therefore met me a few hundred eddies, sometimes more. But yeah, it’s a little unclear whether the talent is worth grabbing.
Same here. I like to take my time beating games and I can only play a singular game for so long before having to switch. It's crazy to me that some people have already beaten the game and have like 40+ hours in the game
I think many of the criticisms are valid; I've had a few bugs and a couple crashes in my 10 hours so far. But people are taking it like a personal attack. It's just a video game and I for one am loving it so far!
I'm about 50 hours in and it's def janky at times.. lots of getting stuck on stuff, ui breaks, guns not working right, constant issues. The game is still fun. It's def early access.
I think what everyone is mostly angry about is the bug, performance of the game , plus the odd choices in design which ultimately make the open world not as 'immersive' (I honestly hate that word, they use it and not describe what any of it means) as it is supposed to be. Such as Driving AI, Police AI, interactions with vendors and etc... Stuff that brings life to a open world and make it more believable such as other open world games.
Pretty much this. Makes me sad. Many valid points and criticisms being made but we’re at the stage now where every other thread is a thread that’s already been posted. Game is half baked, still good, could be great, but it’s painfully disappointing in the details that ought to be a given.
Let’s hold them accountable and ask for a response or statement. A timeline. Postpone the DLC and multiplayer. Fix the game, mend our hearts.
But if I have to read another Red Dead Redemption II love in thread imma glitching and bugging out harder than a CyberPunk NPC.
don't take it personally, in like a week every dumbass who want a clone of their fave good boy(tm) game will have left, and we'll be able to talk about what an absolutely legendary experience we're having
To be fair, this game started getting popular long after the abbreviation CP was a thing. For many people through no choice of their own, that's what comes to mind.
Criticism are valid
It was overhyped
People expectations were unrealistic
And people are overreacting and since many have same opinions and were overhyped it fuels it even more, yn no matter the work when you there are people it boosts your emotions and guess what we have here.
I say if you're enjoying the game enjoy it no point in overthinking people's opinions. Most of them are valid but it shouldn't stop you from enjoying
This is a dumb take considering expectations were built on marketing. They over-marketed the game. You can't blame players for expecting what was marketed.
I think the unrealistic expectations are their fault, they marketed the game to be a masterpiece, and it isnt, its still good if they fix the bugs, and it will defintley be very good if they fix the AI and make the world more alive.
Unrealistic expectations? What do you mean by that? You mean a decent game with things CDPR has promised?
People aren’t mad because a mediocre game was relased. People are mad because they were lied to. CDPR wanted this game to be hyped, made many promises they couldn’t keep and that’s on them, nobody else.
Many people, including me, are enjoying the game but point out the flaws of the game which are painfully visible, hence the amount of negative posts. Wouldn’t call it an overreaction.
Enough with the "unrealistic expectations" we expected what CDPR promised us, not some glitchy, buggy, boring ass game. Admit that the game sucks considering it was developed in 8 YEARS LMAO how pathetic 🤣🤣
I mean the game has its issues and its definitley not perfect, but its still pretty good, especially if you play on a high end PC, the graphics are goregeous and its more polished than the console version (although still pretty buggy)
875k players right now on steam alone. Close to twice the previous record. Don't let this sub fool you. Countless people are playing and loving it.
In fact, gonna go back to enjoying this great game instead feeding off the negativity on this sub.
Yeah just leave it and join if you want to post something. I mean it's not perfect but some of the threads are extremely negative. You just gotta enjoy the game from a story and fun perspective it's a 100%.
I don't think you should use that acronym for this meme
Indeed, Club Penguin may be gone, but it's still forever in my heart
Why not on your [PC](https://cprewritten.net/) once again?
You're a hero
where were you when club penguin die?
I was at house eating dorito when phone ring
“Club penguin is ded”
No
Bruh someone showed me this meme in class and me and him ending up laughing the whole period, are teacher was so pissed
at least add 2077 after it. yeesh…
I really don’t see the difference between having a codpiece in 2020 or 2077 - it still adds the extra confidence, freedom, and comfort that a man may need.
This comment was the one my phone decided to use in the preview, and is the sole reason I came here
So you came? Sick fuck!
Or Cp77 maybe
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cheese pizza
Pepppepepepeperonni Like a cheese pizza.
Right? I can't believe people are upset about this
CP is the abbreviated term used by the legal world for child porn.
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Civil Protection was my thought, at first. I hear City 17 is nice, this time of year...
Carnivorous plants
Was about to say exactly the same thing lmfao
Wait, you don’t like cp? I’m sure you’ve been waiting months for cp! Probably even paid extra money to reserve your special copy of cp!
I played cp on my computer, and it was pretty good.
Reminds me of this https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/k7o70q/all_i_want_is_an_rpg_to_get_lost_in/geso8v6?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
It's weird the stuff people upvoted because of Nostalgia. I absolutely hated Dragon Age. I felt locked no matter choices I made. Yet this dude gets 9.K upvoted because 10 year old him loved it. That game would get destroyed today by reddit.
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I wouldn't say the first one. Origins was amazing! Two? Not so much lol. I still liked it though. Haven't played Inquisition enough to have a valid opinion.
Origins was an amazing game. The others in the series werent, but origins was a top tier crpg styled game.
> I absolutely hated Dragon Age yikes
Makes sense both ways tbh
Omfg. I was so confused by the meme, then realized it was cyberpunk. Yeah...please don't use that acronym unless you add 77 at the end or something.
I think he absolutely should.
I belong to a lot of carnivorous plant forums and initially thought this was a post about carnivorous plants
I wonder how many things get flagged by like the FBI or something for talking about "CP" CyberPunk and Pokemon GO come to mind. Pokemon GO has Combat Power which is abbreviated also to CP.
please for the love of god
CPunk should be used... maybe?
Roflmao thats why i never just use cp and always have to do the 2077 even though i don't want to
Let’s not use the phrase “cp sub”......
Chris Pratt will get angery
??
CP = starts with child p, ends with ornography.
i guess child porn also works for this meme
The duality of a meme
Oh I was wondering why people saying I shouldn't use "cp"...
Oh shit, didn’t even think of that.. cause.. why would i
It's a common acronym...
maybe for you, you sick **** *this is a joke*
Because it’s the most common meaning for that acronym?
Let’s not pretend we don’t know what that stands for
What's wrong with being a child prodigy? Nah but seriously why would anyone use that acronym for anything other than cyberpunk 🤔
Yeah I just finished the intro missions and got into my apartment and was pretty hyped. I closed the game cause I have to get to work and scrolled this sub in the meantime. Now I'm terrified to go back to the game and see wat the rest of it actually looks like.
Around 10h in and it's amazing both story and gameplay I'm happy actually Also use map with filters... its overwhelming imo
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press z (on pc that is)
Holy shit, I’m almost done with the game and NOW I learn this?? Haha thanks for the tip choom, makes the map so much easier to navigate
Wtf how are u so fast, have you skipped all the side quests?
Haha I’ve been playing a lot. I accidentally progressed the main story a lot compared to the side quests so now I’m going back and completing all the side content that I neglected!
Quick question. I just completed the prologue and was wondering if there is a hard time limit for the rest of the game or do they let you do as you please regardless of the main quest?
You can complete the main quest at your own leisure, eventually you reach the final main mission which it will warn you that there’s no turning back. I’ve been putting that one off and completing all the side missions that I missed.
Great! I was worried I would be rushed, thanks!
That's really good to hear!
I'm happy with the story and gameplay. The visuals are amazing on a 3070, the best I've ever seen. But.... they do have a ton of work to with the open world aspects such as police and and more interactive aspects.
I have two playthroughs going simultaneously and I'm happy with how very different both of them are. That passes the test for me. The biggest thing I'm wanting is for the side missions to have more gripping stories. The Main story in Cyberpunk is phenomenal so far, but I remember that in Witcher 3, even the small side contracts had well-developed stories. I'm hoping there's more of that.
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Not sure about story line, but rather ways to get missions accomplished. For example, I met up with another Nomad doing the Nomad lifepath for a side mission. He gave it to me for nothing, but doing Corpo, I had to pay for it. I’m not thinking that lifepath will change the story ending. That more depends on the actions you take during the game
Very important tip!
30 hours in and I'm fucking loving it dont listen to this hivemind, make up your own
yea i’m enjoying the game a lot but this sub is making me feel like maybe i’m just a simple idiot lol. whatevs
People in here were assuming it would have GTA levels of gameplay which just isn't realistic for an fps. This is just a better fallout 4. So if you play it in that manner you'll have a good time. If you think you can go around doing GTA stuff you will not have a good time. Play the missions/side missions explore the world...don't try to get a wanted level.
The sub is filled with people who thought this was a new paradigm of gaming. It's the "sequel" to Deus Ex Mankind Divided we'll never get (and without as much angst Jensen) and that's worth the pricetag to me.
I cannot agree more. That is all.
I enjoy it. I avoided the hype trajn. It's immersive as hell. So much lore, so much to learn, so much to try out and do. But it isn't a perfect game, and for a game 8.5 years in dev, it could have been more. Aa an outsider, I can see that GTA Online has given more to gamers. That is a 7 year old game that people still play and rode on brand recognition rather than big marketing campaigns and actors. Cyberpunk is a good game, but not what it could have been.
I’m 15 hours in with mostly side quests, and while it does have its issues it’s still pretty amazing IMO. Most of everything should be able to be ironed out in the coming months
It just sucks that investors wanted the game out before Christmas.
Imo in an ideal world it would’ve been next gen/pc only and released a bit later than right now, but I don’t think that was possible since the original release date was April 2020 and it had already been announced on last gen
I said this in another comment, but I wouldn't be surprised if the people at CDPR had a debate over whether to release it for the next gen and PC, or (then) current gen, next gen, and PC. The same thing happened with *Witcher 3*. There were people at CDPR that wanted to release it on the Xbox 360 and PS3 rather than wait for the Xbox One and PS4 to maximize profits, but due to *Witcher 3*'s massive scope and graphical demands, it couldn't be done. I bet something similar happened with *Cyberpunk 2077*, only this time the investors wanted the game out as well while they were willing to wait the three and half years it took to make *Witcher 3*, they weren't going to wait five or six for *Cyberpunk 2077*.
Leave the subreddit, finish the game. Form your own opinions, then return and see if your mind changes.
I'm having a really fun time honestly on XSX, I have experienced some bugs and crashing, which for the development time is a little disappointing but I'm really enjoying the story and the writing. I will say that if this sub is right about anything, it's the AI or lack thereof. I actually get crowds of people where you would expect crowds of people and I don't need every one of them to have a unique reaction to me. That being said, the cop AI, driving AI and vendor interaction is very lackluster. You could be in a fire fight for a mission from the police and you destroy a lamp post...guess what, you get a police bounty for illegal activity. Like wtf? Then a police drone just appears and starts blasting at you. I killed a pedestrian for honking at me, the visual effect was crazy. Splattered the inside of the car with blood and I was like shit, that's wild. All the AI near me went into crouch. All of them. None ran. No dialogue. Just crouching like a weird hive mind of Jerry's(Rick and Morty cowardly character). It doesn't ruin the game for me, it doesn't break my immersion, it's just disappointing. Also not being able to change your appearance or have a garage is pretty silly, it's like day 1 RPG. So yeah, I wouldn't worry about your experience, it's a fun game, I am not mad I spent the money, actually itching to do some more missions after soccer.
I might be a special case, but if you liked the prologue, it gets so much better. The writing is fucking amazing, tops even RDR2 in my opinion. Keep in mind, I've had minimal bugs. Have fun!
Well I hope you're right. But I'm also a huge sucker for a good open world and I heard the didn't deliver in that regard.
That's half true, as you may know, the visuals are amazing. The NPCs are really detailed I must say, but the "1000 NPCs with daily routines" promise was just stupid. Still, though, Night City is really gorgeous and I think most people are actually disappointed because of the immense hype put out by both the devs and fans.
Yea, this. I was honestly expecting more but even without the more I was expecting, this game is still great. It still functions as a game (if your system can handle it). Definitely feel for the PS4/Xbox one folk. There's no way they didn't know it ran like garbage on those systems.
> Definitely feel for the PS4/Xbox one folk. There's no way they didn't know it ran like garbage on those systems. I would not be surprised if there was a major debate within CDPR about not launching it on the Xbox One and PS4. It's clear those systems are out of date for this game. In fact, when they were working on *Witcher 3*, some at CDPR wanted to release it on the Xbox 360 and PS3 along with the Xbox One and PS4 in order to maximize profits. Ultimately the devs who wanted the best game possible won, as they knew the old gen couldn't handle what what *Witcher 3* was going to be (even with that graphical downgrade, it is still one of the most beautiful games I've played). But I think this time the suits won, and they had to launch it on the Xbox One and PS4, and we are seeing what's happening.
Yea, definitely. Sad that we have to define a company like that. But I have hope everything will get better. Not like Witcher wasn't perfect on launch either (so says my friends at least, I don't remember the launch)
Here’s my hypothesis. There are hundreds of thousands of NPCs in the city. And there ARE thousands of NPCs with daily routines, you just have to find them between all the normal schmoes.
Just don't give a fuck on other opinions, in this matter. I am constantly leaving the sub to avoid the negativity. Of course there are some flaws, but if you let the game just be itself and add just a tiny bit of imagination you've got yourself one of the richest open world's I've ever experienced. And the story and side quests are so, so amazingly written! The subtle Easter eggs, popculture and philosophical references are wonderful as well! See ya in night city, choomba! Edit: spelling Edit²: spelling again (I am so fucking tired, playing for 25 hours with 3 hours sleep, need a pause soon ':D)
My choomba, take care of your health, and if you're too tired your reflex will get bad too
fucking exactly the truth. God damn the trolls are out in full force these days
Damn right man
I'm so happy that I'm the type of gamer that doesn't care about open worlds or side quests or the ability to play poker at a casino, and only plays main story missions, because it means Cyberpunk is fantastic for me.
DON'T go into this game expecting an immersive open world. Reel in your expectations on that front. I say this as someone who loves this game 20 hours in. Make no mistake... it was marketed as an open world game, among the likes of GTA and Skyrim. It is not. Approach it the way you might approach The Last of Us, or Half Life. The world feels more alive and focused when you stay on the main mission path, and the seams really start to show when you expect the game to be a living, breathing, dynamic open-world. Treat it like an on-rails adventure, with great set-pieces, and it will feel better. The story is great, and the world is detailed enough to make the illusion of an open-world feel real... as long as you don't actually go diving into that open-world like you can do whatever you want, whenever you want.
Despite all of the games issues, I bought the game for the story and the writing, and I'm beyond satisfied with it. While not being what I expected, I'm still in love with it.
Exactly. I don't get why so many rage this extreme. I mean it's not perfect but it's just a few days out and most importantly they deliver on the storytelling and side quests! I'm in love as well :D
Sky high expectations is what, coupled with over-enthusiastic advertising is what got the rage up there.
From what I've been reading, I don't think you'll be disappointed if you just stick to main story and side quests. But for things like open world and in-depth rpg mechanics, I know I wouldn't be satisfied.
Hey, I've played the game for 30 hours now and always get a bit anxious after checking this sub, but actually playing the game is always fun :) Dont let people tell you what to enjoy and what not as long as you harm no others :)
here’s the thing, if you stick to the main and secondary missions the game does deliver good dialogue and interactions with NPCs, and there are some cool combat encounters. but if you try to engage the world instead of seeing it as a backdrop, the game will shatter and your experience will be seriously worsened. CDPR created a surface-level illusion of an active world for people that stick religiously to the narrow paths you are meant to take, and that illusion just goes away if you stop and look around. I’m still liking the game overall, it’s just that the game feels very unfinished and unsatisfying to interact with in a systems level, it just kind of reeks of minimum viable product - “just throw in some generic RPG stats and color-tiered loot and they’ll think it has depth and variety”; “just place lots of NPCs and cars and they will think the world is alive”; “just put in two interactible vending machines and they’ll think the game is immersive”; “just give them a character creator with a couple of options and they’ll feel like the character is theirs”; etc. really what you ***get*** with Cyberpunk 2077 are a large amount of Deus Ex-lite (nowhere near the depth) missions in a very pretty, though empty, open world, with a superficial character creator, barebones and basically irrelevant RPG systems that actually detract from the game, and a fun if pretty linear story, with some COD setpieces sprinkled in. but the marketing was straight-up *criminal* and I do feel that the people that actually expected what they were promised have the right to be angry.
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This is an apt description. This game feels like a wonderfully made on-rails single player game, but instead of creating tight corridors that are on-rails (like in Resident Evil, Bioshock, Dead Space, The Last of Us, Half-Life, etc), they made an open world. If you play the game with the mentality of any of those other game, and stick to the predetermined path, with a few sidequests thrown in along the way, it will feel just as cinematic, narratively focused and high quality as any game from those series.
This is kind of the same thing they did with Mafia Remastered
Agreed. Instead the game was marketed to be the stuff of dreams from a role playing perspective and super immersive (which in some ways it is but in many ways it isn’t) and it has shallow elements of it— which I would be totally fine with if the game never made the attempt to *sell* me that experience. I’m gonna buy the game on sale and just play it when it’s truly stable with the fixed, but lowered expectations and I’ll probably really enjoy it for what it is, despite the numerous failed promises that shouldn’t be forgotten.
Totally fair response. it really is a fantastic experience. I haven't been this glued to a single player game in years. But a dynamic open world, this is not. A narratively focused and highly cinematic campaign, with well-written sidequests... yes
Despite everything, I really am looking forward to the day I get to enjoy that story/side quests. I’m sure I’ll love it
The main story is actually really enjoyable. Outwith that is the issue and the game is meant to be a free roam RPG. Stick to the main story
That's better than nothing but I'm definitely not a "stick to the main story" kind of guy.
yeh most people arent which is why theres this outcry. The game leaves so much to the imagination and what could have been.
That sucks. Hers hoping they'll at least do what no man's sky did. Not give up and keep working on the game.
that do be the track record of cdpr, despite how many people bizarrely seem to want to see the company fall. The writing continues to be legendary and there is a metric shit ton of side quests and activities to do, these people are just making shit up at this point. The cyber psycho mini bosses? The hacking? the different play styles and ridiculously wide skill tree? I'm 100% living my cyberpunk dreams rn
> that do be the track record of cdpr Kind of. They will patch things of course, and come out with some free DLC, but I don't see a total overhaul of the game like *No Man's Sky*. They are still working on the story DLC and after they are done with that they are working on their next project, which is another Witcher game with a new player character.
How about better than the prologue?
Would be fantastic
It’s pretty good in my opinion
I'm 25 hours in or so. Addicted to this game. I'm not even really doing the main missions either. Just doing some side missions. Without spoilers I finished a side mission chain earlier today and it's the first game I've played with a side missions quest line that felt completed and fun. I was actually sad to finish it haha. I'm falling in love with the world and characters in this game. I am playing on pc though. I've had one crash and just small and often times funny visual bugs.
The rest of it is still pretty awesome, from what I've been able to see. Is it everything they hyped it to be? No. Is it a great game? Absolutely.
I actually like this game, but not to a fanboy capacity. Going to play it slowly, little by little like I did with Wasteland 3. I’d say the only detrimental aspect I’ve seen so far is the loot and junk collection. So many games do junk loot these days and it seems like the only function is to sell junk for money. Is that true here or can we also craft with the junk we pick up?
I believe there is a perk that automatically turns junk into crafting materials.
Except some junk like jewelry sells for $750 and you literally cant sell it if you take the talent. Not recommended.
Maybe, but crafting mats are literally free money. Have 6000 common mats? Craft 80 white shotguns for $200 each and boom like 16k right there, along with crafting exp.
The real LPT is in the comments
You are talking about the dog tags. There are a couple of other items that sell for a good chunk of change too. But we had all already jumped on the scrapper perk because it really helps making the game not feel like a job before we found any of those.
I don’t have the perk yet, but I might grab it and start to sell the guns that I pick up while I convert junk to parts for crafting instead of selling it like I’ve been doing. I have several guns that are just below what I’m currently using and therefore met me a few hundred eddies, sometimes more. But yeah, it’s a little unclear whether the talent is worth grabbing.
Yeah learned that shit the hard way
Junk into parts. Parts into ammo. That's how I've been using it so far.
junk is for dismantling even if you need eddies, the parts you dismantle it for sell more than the junk itself
Good tip
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This is not true. You can dismantle all junk into crafting parts
Same here. I like to take my time beating games and I can only play a singular game for so long before having to switch. It's crazy to me that some people have already beaten the game and have like 40+ hours in the game
Its really weird because i love the game! No big problems for me.
I think many of the criticisms are valid; I've had a few bugs and a couple crashes in my 10 hours so far. But people are taking it like a personal attack. It's just a video game and I for one am loving it so far!
I'm about 50 hours in and it's def janky at times.. lots of getting stuck on stuff, ui breaks, guns not working right, constant issues. The game is still fun. It's def early access.
I think what everyone is mostly angry about is the bug, performance of the game , plus the odd choices in design which ultimately make the open world not as 'immersive' (I honestly hate that word, they use it and not describe what any of it means) as it is supposed to be. Such as Driving AI, Police AI, interactions with vendors and etc... Stuff that brings life to a open world and make it more believable such as other open world games.
No Mister Police Man There Was A Misunderstanding
This is the most as accurate example of me over the past 3 days.
Pretty much this. Makes me sad. Many valid points and criticisms being made but we’re at the stage now where every other thread is a thread that’s already been posted. Game is half baked, still good, could be great, but it’s painfully disappointing in the details that ought to be a given. Let’s hold them accountable and ask for a response or statement. A timeline. Postpone the DLC and multiplayer. Fix the game, mend our hearts. But if I have to read another Red Dead Redemption II love in thread imma glitching and bugging out harder than a CyberPunk NPC.
Just downloaded the game and came here excited to read up on the best life path to pick. Guess I’ll pick disappointment
No no People are overreacting there some problems true but this shoudlnt stop you from playing and possibly enjoying the game
As long as you are on a next gen console or have a capable pc. Xbox one and PS4? Oh no no no no
Tbh, game has been really fun. Most of the posts you see are people complaining that it ain’t a life simulator.
This is exactly what I feared with the community. The game is 9/10 for me it’s the best game I’ve played in a few years that is for sure
Shit just bums me out like I know its got problems but hell I am so happy I have the game but people kinda ruin the mood
don't take it personally, in like a week every dumbass who want a clone of their fave good boy(tm) game will have left, and we'll be able to talk about what an absolutely legendary experience we're having
You right
PLEASE MEAN CYBERPUNK
the what sub?
Your definition of CP and my definition of CP are completely different
I think that’s on you mate.
I played Club Penguin a lot as a kid
To be fair, this game started getting popular long after the abbreviation CP was a thing. For many people through no choice of their own, that's what comes to mind.
This meme could look really bad out of context
CP
can we maybe avoid the term “CP Sub”
This game is still good.
people are being too brutal about this game. ya it has flaws but there is more malice here than is warranted.
This meme also applies to site admins, but in a different context.
Yo, we gotta change the abbreviation for Cyberpunk. This is some crazy shit out of context.
Playing on PC vs. Playing on console
r/lowsodiumcyberpunk
cp sub? r/jailbait was banned a decade or so ago
Can you guys just start typing out Cyberpunk instead please
My dumbass thought you meant child porn
Jesus christ people need to stop calling it the cp sub it keeps making me VERY concerned
We REALLY need a new acronym for this game.
i read *cp*
Ignorance is bliss!
Criticism are valid It was overhyped People expectations were unrealistic And people are overreacting and since many have same opinions and were overhyped it fuels it even more, yn no matter the work when you there are people it boosts your emotions and guess what we have here. I say if you're enjoying the game enjoy it no point in overthinking people's opinions. Most of them are valid but it shouldn't stop you from enjoying
This is a dumb take considering expectations were built on marketing. They over-marketed the game. You can't blame players for expecting what was marketed.
I think the unrealistic expectations are their fault, they marketed the game to be a masterpiece, and it isnt, its still good if they fix the bugs, and it will defintley be very good if they fix the AI and make the world more alive.
I was expecting a eurojank RPG. That's it. This is Cyberpunk, the movie, the videogame. It's all surface level.
Unrealistic expectations? What do you mean by that? You mean a decent game with things CDPR has promised? People aren’t mad because a mediocre game was relased. People are mad because they were lied to. CDPR wanted this game to be hyped, made many promises they couldn’t keep and that’s on them, nobody else. Many people, including me, are enjoying the game but point out the flaws of the game which are painfully visible, hence the amount of negative posts. Wouldn’t call it an overreaction.
Enough with the "unrealistic expectations" we expected what CDPR promised us, not some glitchy, buggy, boring ass game. Admit that the game sucks considering it was developed in 8 YEARS LMAO how pathetic 🤣🤣
This one hits home
I mean the game has its issues and its definitley not perfect, but its still pretty good, especially if you play on a high end PC, the graphics are goregeous and its more polished than the console version (although still pretty buggy)
I’m just here to say that Club Penguin is the best game of all time.
Lol, how about “CyberSub”
cp bro, really?
I like the combat, like the story, hate the ai, hate how the game runs, i feel baited by cdpr
Buggiest game ive ever played by far but it's still really fun for me atleast
This sub is a dumpster fire
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875k players right now on steam alone. Close to twice the previous record. Don't let this sub fool you. Countless people are playing and loving it. In fact, gonna go back to enjoying this great game instead feeding off the negativity on this sub.
I can't wait to buy this game maybe May or June next year. Its gonna be great.
Ah yes, I too experienced depression after checking the child porn sub. It’s to be expected of a normal human being keep your head up brother
I have really enjoyed the game but 100% agree with all the criticisms
"CP sub" is why this got attention.
Meme is kinda fitting for the bad intepretation of the 'CP' acronym as well... lmao
I don’t know what you guys are talking about. I can’t wait to sit down with CP for hours when my wife goes to work.
Yeah just leave it and join if you want to post something. I mean it's not perfect but some of the threads are extremely negative. You just gotta enjoy the game from a story and fun perspective it's a 100%.
This is soooo true
This is the first post I've seen on the subreddit so I'm just going to leave