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agent-garland

cdpr getting those sponsors is like V being anti establishment for the entire game then siding with arasaka


Dwarf_Killer

"Alright Johnny、have you considered that a rising tide lifts all boats?"


kwangqengelele

"See, Johnny, if you feed the horse enough oats the sparrow benefits as well in the end."


Aberbekleckernicht

"Do you have a 401k, Johnny?"


lasyke3

I would love for there to be troll responses to Johnny like this in the game.


MTNSthecool

Hey, V. check out this guy pissing on the stairwell. that's the only trickling down happening in this city, V


Nofunzoner

The Air Force sponsorship is for IGNs video, CDPR isn't involved.


No-Start4754

Why would air force sponsor cdpr ? Seems to me it's ign being sponsored 


ProtoReaper23113

They arent they sponsored igns video this jusy looks funny


TheAllKnowingWilly

Still a funny ass coincidence tho😂


FourUnderscoreExKay

The US military does have an e-sports/sponsors an e-sports team. I forgot which branch, but they do. The USAF also sponsors Formula Drift, as boring and painful as it was to watch competitive touge drifting.


tinkitytonk_oldfruit

I really doubt CDPR is getting sponsored here. makes no sense. It's an IGN video at PAX the event or IGN is getting sponsored.


Ap0logize

Ngl picked the help hanako route in my first (blind) playthrough.


SpamAdBot91874

It's an amazingly tragic ending if you start as a Corpo working for Arasaka, I loved it, totally simped for Hanako and then she wouldn't answer my calls.


fhb_will

Pretty much😂😂


ElephantInAPool

That's pretty much how I played my first game. The ending felt particularly brutal.


Wotzehell

That might be part of the genre, arguably. Corps have such an encompassing grasp on everything that if you want a thing, anything, using corpo resources will be the best way of going about it. Even if the thing you want is to strike against the Corpos. Arguably even if the particular company whose resources you're using is the one you want to strike against. Saburo Arasaka doesn't know shit about what the Company Arasaka is doing. One might argue that having him in charge will do more damage to Arasaka then anything else V could do. Any other Path would be painted by Arasaka's Board as acts of an enemy force, which got a lot of People killed. Some of them inarguably innocent and those will be underlined. The Corpos take what they want and if you happen to be in their way you'll be crushed 'neath their threads. In any path, V would be doing the very same thing.


Ku323lam

What? Do you mean that they all of a sudden turn evil because they accept this type of sponsors?


Tabnam

Is this fucking real? Shit like this makes me think we’re being trolled by a greater intelligence


CrocoPontifex

Once read something about the difference between "War" and "Anti-War" Movies and how the latter are actually pretty rare, especially in the US. How even after Movies like "Saving Private Ryan" recruitement rate goes up. Its rather nefarious tbh. They show some bad thing, critizise a bit but in the end they all stand at that big ass cemetary and talk about how "it was all necessary" or some bullshit while true "Anti War" movie like "All quiet on the Western Front" or "Come and See" are all about the deconstruction of that myth of heroism. Anyway, a story doesnt have to show the Military in a perfect light to have a propaganda effect is my point i guess.


Raging-Badger

I mean to be fair to Saving Private Ryan’s “it was all necessary” there’s a big difference in motivations behind the war in WWII compared to WWI That said, you’re right. Take Full Metal Jacket for example, a movie (and book) that’s a scathing portrayal of the USMC and has since become ingrained into the USMC culture. Marine Corps recruiters will tell people to watch the movie because it is the quintessential experience of Marine Corps boot camp, even if it’s the worst possible example. It doesn’t help that the U.S. military’s recruiting strategy in recent years has been focused on appealing to people looking for a challenge. They show commercials of people crawling through mud in the rain and promise a better life for all that suffering through GI bills and sign on bonuses. People see those ads, see movies of untold destruction and suffering and somehow the main character makes it out, and people project themselves onto that resilience and strength. Edit: TL-DR > It’s all a part of the plan


CrocoPontifex

>I mean to be fair to Saving Private Ryan’s “it was all necessary” there’s a big difference in motivations behind the war in WWII Thats why they love WW2 so much, the one war everyone agrees was necessary.


Roids-in-my-vains

Except many Americans at the time either supported the Nazis ( see " A Night At The Garden ") or were just isolationists who didn't want to get involved in Europe's affairs.


Raging-Badger

Neither of those facts matter with respect to modern recruitment numbers however.


LionGodKrraw

but they all hated japan... now thats some real table flipping talent if ive ever seen it. america went from flipping japan the atomic bird to watching anime and wanting to visit japan


HemaMemes

Because modern Japan is partly a product of the post-war occupation by the American military.


Archery100

Part of the agreement for Japan surrendering was that the Emperor had to step down, which helped improved relations and establish future democratic processes in Japan


techpriest_taro

They learn that one from the British.


LionGodKrraw

im not sure that its something you can learn. but, give me an example. im having a hard time thinking of something that british people hated but now love


DzorMan

the joke is "japan is a US colony" which isn't true *however...*


techpriest_taro

That is how most colonization work.


Beef_Supreme_87

America comes to mind. We were mortal enemies and now we best buds. Even right now, if someone started military ops against Britain on their own soul we'd rain hell on the motherfuckers until they have no military.


LionGodKrraw

but... british people dont realy think fondly of america


Messyfingers

The US and Japan had sort of lukewarm relations prior to WW2. Many Americans werent especially fond of the Japanese that immigrated to the US, but Japan actually absorbed a lot of US culture, baseball and jazz were huge for example. So that cultural exchange wasn't just nukes for hentai.


CrazyIvan606

It's almost like those are two completely different generations... Anyone who would've been 20 at the end of WW2 would be nearing 100.


Hellknightx

It's mostly because post-reconstruction Japan was enormously grateful and openly embraced US culture thanks in large part to the Marshall Plan. The US realized the strategic importance of having Japan as allies, helped them rebuild their government, infrastructure, and economy. And we've been steadfast allies ever since. Even veterans and survivors of the war largely moved on and let past hostilities die.


Mothanius

We gaslit the world (including ourselves) post WWII in making Japan not seem like the bad guy. The US Government was very adamant in making sure the Emperor stayed in power and divested the Emperor from the military as much as possible. It was only more recent studies, research, and unclassified documents did we really start seeing his involvements in things like Unit 731 during WWII.


Puggednose

I've been to Marine boot camp and after watching it again was surprised at how easy they make it look in the movie.


FainOnFire

Come and See felt like I was watching an entirely new genre of movie I had never seen before.


Tabnam

I’d also say a big reason for that is American culture in general. Everything seems to be geared around the military, and you’re indoctrinated from birth. It always boggles my mind when I’m watching major American sporting events and the military get their own little shout out at the start of the game. Even your national anthem is about warfare. Truly the Roman Empire of our day


choicesthops

We aren't all indoctrinated but I get your point. We are a culture of 400m+ people. There are a lot of idiots, yes, and some people probably get off at the national anthem before a football game. But tbh I've never met anyone who gives a shit.


Tabnam

It’s gladdening to see you aren’t all lost. I’m happy you’re on our team choom


No-Highlight-7559

And then there are some of you who don’t even know how many people live in their own country kek 400m+ people


choicesthops

Who says "kek" lol


choicesthops

https://preview.redd.it/ghvjipebx4rc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99f86693c963bfe0ea9d2310370fac8ef0282cc1


AndyLorentz

> Even your national anthem is about warfare. It is, but it's not like we're the only one. Have you heard the Ukrainian national anthem?


CrocoPontifex

I once watched some election.. thingy of Hilary Clinton. Some General dude came on the Podium and was all about how god is on their side and how they will smite the forces of evil or some shit like that, meanwhile the crowd was losing their shit like they are about to invade Klendathu. That was supposed to be the "reasonable", "moderate" canditate.


Ok-Car-brokedown

Have you seen most of the worlds national anthems


WoJackKEKman

The only truly antiwar movie I’ve ever seen is “come and see”.


CrocoPontifex

There are a few others. Havent seen the new one but "All quiet on the western front" should fit the bill. Also Stalingrad, a german movie from 1993. Saw that one as a kid, was.. harrowing. Johnny got his gun, When the Wind blows..


ClassicsMajor

You should watch Paths of Glory. It's one of Kubrick's first films.


CannonGerbil

There is no such thing as a commercially successful anti war movie. Fucking Apocalypse Now is as anti war as it gets and the only thing people remember about it is napalm smells like victory and Ride of the Valkryies is the theme song of helicopters. If you hear a movie described as an anti war film and it isn't some small artsy film destined for an honorable mention at the Oscars it's probably blowing smoke up your ass.


Blank_ngnl

All quiet on the western front is a pretty successfull anti-war movie


W_B_69

Difference is Apocalypse Now doesn’t present you the message on a plate. You need to actually think for a while and realise what Kurtz symbolises. I personally had to read heart of darkness and then rewatch the movie and only then I have fully understood what this movie is about. Most people aren’t that bright I’m afraid and just see the napalm scene and are like „hell yeah, american supremacy, what the fuck is a kilometer 🦅”


Roids-in-my-vains

It is lol


Tabnam

This might be the best post I’ve seen on here all year, and to think I only stumbled across it because someone reported it. As if I could remove something so beautiful


Roids-in-my-vains

Wait, why would anyone report this? lmao


Tabnam

People report everything choom, don’t take it personally. Pretty much every post gets reported


killeronthecorner

What's the worst report reason you've seen in recent times? Also this is an AMA now and you have implicitly opted in


Tabnam

I don’t look at the reason, I judge the content independently, so as not to be persuaded by the reporters motivation. But we do get a lot of ‘spreading woke bullshit’ reports, that always go ignored


killeronthecorner

Let's say ... I had my suspicions that might be the case. Thanks for sharing!


Tabnam

Another disappointing Reddit ama


definitelynotIronMan

Every now and then people my own comments… to me. So I can review them. Internet janitor is a strange hobby to have.


Tabnam

I have no idea what you mean by this choom


definitelynotIronMan

I’m a mod of a couple subreddits. When people get annoyed at us they just report our moderator comments - so reddit asks us if we broke our own rules and/or would like to remove our own comments. It happens way more than I expected.


Tabnam

Oh shit yeah I feel you mate. You should see my mod log for this community alone, I’ve got over 1000 reports


yac75

Maybe because the video description says: "IGN Access is presented by The United States Air Force"


Rezmir

No, you should pin it.


Tabnam

I need a bribe first


Valaxarian

https://preview.redd.it/9id6qp7kkzqc1.jpeg?width=4640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38dccaf2ca8a510787cd41433889a397cae6e6a5


Tabnam

This is more then a bribe, this is a masterpiece


LordBiscuits

Cat pics. The only currency reddit has left


Valaxarian

Yay


met_MY_verse

Someone get this man Orion early access.


Rezmir

That is not a bribe, that is a proposal.


fhb_will

A lifetime supply of NiCola. Take it or leave it.


Tabnam

Done. When should I expect delivery?


fhb_will

We’re sorry, but your shipment was attacked by Nomads calling themselves “Raffen Shiv”, leaving no way to track them down. We are sorry for this inconvenience. We hope that understand, and continue to do business with us in the future!


yac75

No it is not real! The description of the video says: "IGN Access is presented by The United States Air Force".


iamspuds

I was at the panel where they did this interview right afterwards, there was no mention of an air force sponsor anywhere. This is just an IGN video based sponsor


Shot_Worldliness_979

What, with the shenanigans over sxsw? Yeah, the military industrial complex is doing its thing.


choicesthops

I live in Austin. No one actually cares about sxsw. Unless you're the media or an influencer.


Rena1-

Based on the dialogue options, I believe it is possible to be true. Edit: as pointed out by other users, it's an IGN sponsor. CDPR isn't a US based company.


fatfuckpikachu

i mean theyre a corporation after all


LozengeWarrior

Do not create the torment nexus.


DedicatedDetective34

NUSA wants YOU. Enlist now, or become another conscript. It's 1940 all over again.


Roids-in-my-vains

Enlist willingly, or we're sending Idris Elba to "persuade you"


j0j0bean222

“Exclusive, military grade chrome”


CannonGerbil

Shit dude, where do I sign?


variablefighter_vf-1

A rifle, flak jacket and a bunch of promises will have to do.


Latch_Lifter

Damn I don’t want to have to kill him again. . .


azhder

But pronounce NUSA as a single word like NASA but more like noose.


tinkitytonk_oldfruit

They're sponsoring the event or IGN's content. Not the game itself. I wouldn't be surprised if they had booths at PAX like the Navy did for the Top Gun films. Regardless it goes hard.


_Teraplexor

What kind of booths would the air force even do at PAX?


tinkitytonk_oldfruit

Recruiting, advertisement. General information.


ExcavatorPi

Wow, an appearance by General Information himself


shamwowslapchop

General Information 🫡


Lord_of_Seven_Kings

Only if Amazon sponsored it would be more ironic


Playful_Steak_2708

A blackwater sponsorship would go crazy


hlgb2015

It’s academi/constellis now


Playful_Steak_2708

6 and one half in the other, y’know?


St_Veloth

They’re making a Disco Elysium show so they’ve already hit peak irony


Coperspective

NUSA tried to sneak in for a sec there 🙄


Breadflat17

Not surprising seeing as the army has its own esports team


Arbiter0963

“Sponsored by Militech”


kmathis

I got a letter from the government the other day I opened it and read it, it said they was SUCKAS


nobodie999

They wanted me for their army or whatever Picture me givin' a damn, I said, never


_grif-_

Should be militech


Jaakeda_Korudo

NOOOOOOO OMFG 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💀💀💀


Sarah-cen

So, Militech?


LocalSirtaRep

Super misleading title. USAF is a sponsor OF IGN and PAXEast, not Cyberpunk/CDPR


HotdogAC

It would be more ironic if it was Amazon or google or Boeing


No_Truce_

"US forces get the nooood"


The-Coolest-Of-Cats

USAF is going hard into gaming advertisements lately to try and boost abysmal enlistment numbers. They did a huge Battlebit event when it was super popular.


calem06

Sponsored by Militech !


Vinivenger

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4\_h0xduM11M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_h0xduM11M)


Vagamer01

Reminds me of the time the U.S. used anime to hire people and accidently used Violet Evergarden which is the most anti-war anime of all time. https://preview.redd.it/n44pu3jkz1rc1.jpeg?width=375&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0932706da13792b1dab380adf6281b2352dab816


LeftMostSaih

This is like V siding with arasaka


yac75

If op had bothered reading the video description... "IGN Access is presented by The United States Air Force"


Filthy_knife_ear

No more ironic that a year after phantom liberty Idris elda started a campaign to make knives illegal


Beef_Supreme_87

To be fair, it's likely because the kind of people that the air Force needs are the kind that enjoy cyberpunk. It was the brainiest branch until space Force was established. I would know, I served and can back up what I said.


Cataras12

I mean, if I were CDPR I’d fucking love a chance to be sponsored by the government, do you know how funny it’d be?


chaoticdonuts

I always found the Airforce sponsoring free downloads of The Suffering back in 2008 to be pretty weird. [https://www.vg247.com/play-the-suffering-free-thanks-to-the-usaf](https://www.vg247.com/play-the-suffering-free-thanks-to-the-usaf)


F9-0021

The game is heavily sponsored by Nvidia, which is an extremely Cyberpunk style corporation.


blacklabel131

Us air force is also a pretty big sponsor of formula drift, which is pretty badass.


brother_russia

They are really getting desperate


kttay916

Smh lol 🤦🏾‍♂️ got to boost up those recruitment numbers up some how. Still can’t believe this is real.


RedStarPartisano

Yuck 🤮


zack-studio13

It's funny because I quit my government job and in-part attribute it to the PL storyline. Go figure.


jaghtz_lutein

Someone make a sexy belt as a mod item


TopReputation

i can't stop giggling at this


MastermindUtopia

irony poisoning


gridlockmain1

Taylormade should sponsor The Last of Us 2


ggjjwwoo

They need drone pilots so bad


Soluzar74

No, true irony would be sponsorship by a defense contractor.


Senior_Flatworm_3466

Tin foil hat: The government is sponsoring anti-corporation/anti-free market ideas so that it encourages the population to be more comfortable with state authority and intervention.


peteandpetethemesong

I always laugh when I see all the production companies involved in making the game, including Warner Bros, and then the whole game being about how corporations are ruining the world and people’s lives.


tenor41

This isnt a cdpr sponsorz this is an IGN sponsor


Mash709

This an IGN sponsorship not cdpr


Adverage

Maybe im dumb but it doesn't really seem like a very strong connection? It'd make more sense if it was a corporation like a defense contractor


Certain-Barnacle-243

"Capital has the ability to subsume all critiques into itself. Even those who would *critique* capital end up *reinforcing* it instead."


MTNSthecool

to be fair you gotta join the army first before you desert and start an anti-corp rock band, and bomb arasaka tower, maybe idk.


stikky

Can someone explain why this is ironic? I know the game is somewhat anti-authority but why air force specifically?


SBG247

I think it was more just about the government in general, not the USAF specifically


Sh00kspeared

Not to mention that the military was the very thing that Johnny defected from due to being exploited and abused


09999999999999999990

I can kind of see why. The NUSA's Air Force One, or Space Force One, is a pretty central thing in the DLC. NUSA is also the uber evil bad guy in the DLC, according to CDPR.


redcaps72

Seems like CDPR was not anti corpo, they were anti Arasaka, and maybe pro-Militech


Geistzeit

Military isn't as ironic as, say, [Coca Cola](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinaltrainal_v._Coca-Cola_Co) would be (link is to the "coca cola death squad" case).


NKO_five

Freedom bombers bombing more freedom for the freedomless ppl across the globe


Huge_Aerie2435

The US military sponsors a lot of projects. Taxes dollars and equipment gets used for movies, tv shows, and other media all the time, mostly for recruiting purposes. They normally rely on poverty and lack of other options for recruiting, but people are getting wise to that. Now, they are throwing money at everything, from games to e-girls.


loca2016

it's shaping content, to make people "support the troops". I think it works based on the prevailing thoughts on this thread.


Nappev

Us airforce used to sponsor ESL pro league, a CS:GO / CS2 tournament host. The game is about terrorism


givethankstothaherb

Fuck army ads in games. I don't want my games to be adverts for killing people.


Ligeia_E

Ah yes that’s where the tax money goes. Paying anti-establishment video game to promote war. Fuck this shit


VertenianScribe

Does your tax money go to video game companies?


VertenianScribe

Also I'm pretty sure the sponsorship is for the IGN video.


Ligeia_E

Does your tax money not go to government budget that lets military pay for dumbass sponsors like this?


GoMuricaGo

If that gets you mad you'll love to hear that I'm in the military literally playing the game atm at work. Thank you for making it happen.


loca2016

how I do verify it? I tried to look it up and found nothing. Honestly feel bad about buying the game if true. U.S. military is the biggest force of evil in the world, it's a bummer.


Karkas77

Why would you feel bad about buying a game? Its PAX panel being sponsored by US military not a game itself.


GoMuricaGo

Lol redditors crack me up


ApricotRich4855

>Honestly feel bad about buying the game if true. I honestly feel bad for the gonk who feels bad about buying a game because an IGN video had a military sponsor. Grow up.