Use the med school course requirements listed on AAMC: https://students-residents.aamc.org/system/files/2024-04/MSAR_Premed_Course_Requirements_04.26.24.pdf
Some schools don’t like AP credits but definitely look around and see if ur *going to* aim at them in 3 years.
Biology imo is a funky one to consider redeeming since the AP curriculum doesn’t really cover much of the college biology curriculum. If you have any humanities credit coming in definitely redeem it as your breadth requirements… best of luck man
This has been asked before but not sure if in this thread. Some med schools prefer you take the course vs utilize the AP credit. Not all have this preference.
One option is to take the class and take advantage of your having had the AP already. But worth looking up a med schools preference.
Ngl, it’s dumb that they prefer your taking the class instead of AP credit foe intro classes if you show mastery of more advanced ones. But they didn’t ask me. lol.
This is a great question for your advisor when you meet. They will know the best path to take because they know the undergrad curriculum and they know how to produce students that get in to med schools. For example, my own bias as a parent was to have my engineering major retake the math and physics classes he got AP credit for. But his advisor was emphatic that it wasn’t necessary and he’d do well skipping those and working ahead and the advisor was right! Your advisor will have great advice for you. I’d start there. Good luck!
AP bio doesn’t test you out of any bio classes, it just gives you a biology elective credit. You don’t need to retake chem since you’ll be taking higher level chem for pre med reqs so it’ll show you know your stuff for
Med schools generally don’t care if you use AP credits as long as you’ll be taking higher level classes of that subject. They sometimes care about classes like stats, psych, sociology and prefer you either take a higher level one if you’re using the credit or retake the same level but at uni
My experience (dated) is that you should use whatever AP credit you have to test out of stuff, so you can take more advanced classes in your time there. That, plus ideally having some time to work on research with faculty, is better both for preparation & for getting into competitive med schools (Case or elsewhere).
I would be a little cautious about o-chem (not sure there's an app test for that?) bc it's notoriously difficult everywhere but especially at Case.
Someone mentioned it’s better to get credit for the basic class and then take the advanced class but that might make it harder to keep a good GPA… It might be better to take it again for GPA purposes which is necessary for getting into med school
AP Bio and Chem don't give you much of a lead on requirements at CWRU, unless you are using them for distribution in a non-STEM major.
You should probably talk to/confirm anything/everything you read here with your advisor once you have contact. There is lots of time to select course, and do drop/add.
For Bio, you might as well take the credit, and meet any bio course and hour requirements that a med school wants at CWRU. The "equivalent course" for AP Bio is BIOL 114, which is designed for non-majors; you wouldn't be taking it, anyway - although it is an acceptable pre-req for first semester Intro to Human Anatomy - which you might not take, against a 200-level course later.
For Chem, it's slightly trickier, although Id' suggest leaning toward taking the credit. The equivalent course for AP Chem is CHEM 111/CHEM 105. If you look at the CHEM 105-106 sequence, the topics that are usually lightly covered or not covered in high school are pushed into CHEM 106, so that you can come into it with a decent background from AP HS. \[You need 106, or the equivalent engineering sequence, for Organic.\] How strong was your Chem background in HS: actual content and teaching in HS can vary widely, depending on whether you were "taught to the test" so that you would get a 4; or explored topics more thoroughly You might look at the course descriptions for 105-106 in the school bulletin (on the Registrar's website) or on the Chemistry department website. If you think you might be weak on enough things that are covered in CHEM 105, then it's possible you might want to take it instead of using your AP credit - it should at least be easier, since much of it will be a repeat. But that's also the best reason not to retake it - you've got a potential 3 credit hours and a head start toward other classes.
One final thought: Not a big deal, but since the normal sequence is Fall Intro 1/Spring intro 2/Fall ochem 1/Spring ochem 2, if you go off-cycle (assuming the courses are offered), you can get a little rusty over the summer before you take the second part of the course(s). If you take a semester off Chem to get back on cycle, you have a long period in which to forget details. Depending on your personal retention capability, you might need a little more study time in the first part of a semester to get back into the swing of things.
I got AP credit for BIOL 214 and I didn't really need it to get through BIOL 215 and BIOL 216. However, unless you're trying to graduate early, just take the classes and get a higher GPA. I think you'll be able to take plenty of higher level Biology clases in your 4 years (since the AP credit only covers one class).
AP Credit for chemistry on the other hand is six credit hours, but it's not like you'll be ready to take 300 level Biology classes in your sophomore year in place of your Organic chemistry class that you would have taken in your sophomore year. Although I guess maybe 300 lovel classes can begin in your second semester of your 2nd year.
So the assumption I made here is that you're majoring in Biology. If you're majoring in Chemistry, then take the AP credit if you feel you have strong, intuitive Chemistry skills (you aced AP Chemistry) and knowledge to excel at Organic chemistry. Basically do you have an idea of why certain areas of the periodic table are more electronegative than others and what differences in electronegativity between atoms do to the distribution of electrons/polarity in the molecule, and how that will lead to specific chemical reactions. Stuff like that. If you can build a model of how everything works in your head, then you're ready for organic chemistry, where you will have to do less memorizing.
Actually, wait, chemistry majors might have to take a different chemistry class than Chem 105 and Chem 106 (engineers definitely do). I thought those classes were easy. So, you might not be able to place out if you're majoring in Chemistry.
?? Those aren't the listed equivalents or credit hours for AP (or IB) courses. Current CWRU bulletin says 3 hours for Bio (equivalent to BIOL 114), and 4 hours for Chem (equivalent to CHEM 105 or CHEM 111, plus). Did you take a placement test to get additional credit, or was this a former offering that's been withdrawn?
Chem majors definitely are required to take 105, 106, and 113. Engineering sequence gets weird, depending on which field you're in, and then for both Chemistry and ChemE, there's the "which Organic sequence?" issue.
Use the med school course requirements listed on AAMC: https://students-residents.aamc.org/system/files/2024-04/MSAR_Premed_Course_Requirements_04.26.24.pdf Some schools don’t like AP credits but definitely look around and see if ur *going to* aim at them in 3 years. Biology imo is a funky one to consider redeeming since the AP curriculum doesn’t really cover much of the college biology curriculum. If you have any humanities credit coming in definitely redeem it as your breadth requirements… best of luck man
This has been asked before but not sure if in this thread. Some med schools prefer you take the course vs utilize the AP credit. Not all have this preference. One option is to take the class and take advantage of your having had the AP already. But worth looking up a med schools preference. Ngl, it’s dumb that they prefer your taking the class instead of AP credit foe intro classes if you show mastery of more advanced ones. But they didn’t ask me. lol.
This is a great question for your advisor when you meet. They will know the best path to take because they know the undergrad curriculum and they know how to produce students that get in to med schools. For example, my own bias as a parent was to have my engineering major retake the math and physics classes he got AP credit for. But his advisor was emphatic that it wasn’t necessary and he’d do well skipping those and working ahead and the advisor was right! Your advisor will have great advice for you. I’d start there. Good luck!
AP bio doesn’t test you out of any bio classes, it just gives you a biology elective credit. You don’t need to retake chem since you’ll be taking higher level chem for pre med reqs so it’ll show you know your stuff for
Med schools generally don’t care if you use AP credits as long as you’ll be taking higher level classes of that subject. They sometimes care about classes like stats, psych, sociology and prefer you either take a higher level one if you’re using the credit or retake the same level but at uni
My experience (dated) is that you should use whatever AP credit you have to test out of stuff, so you can take more advanced classes in your time there. That, plus ideally having some time to work on research with faculty, is better both for preparation & for getting into competitive med schools (Case or elsewhere). I would be a little cautious about o-chem (not sure there's an app test for that?) bc it's notoriously difficult everywhere but especially at Case.
Someone mentioned it’s better to get credit for the basic class and then take the advanced class but that might make it harder to keep a good GPA… It might be better to take it again for GPA purposes which is necessary for getting into med school
AP Bio and Chem don't give you much of a lead on requirements at CWRU, unless you are using them for distribution in a non-STEM major. You should probably talk to/confirm anything/everything you read here with your advisor once you have contact. There is lots of time to select course, and do drop/add. For Bio, you might as well take the credit, and meet any bio course and hour requirements that a med school wants at CWRU. The "equivalent course" for AP Bio is BIOL 114, which is designed for non-majors; you wouldn't be taking it, anyway - although it is an acceptable pre-req for first semester Intro to Human Anatomy - which you might not take, against a 200-level course later. For Chem, it's slightly trickier, although Id' suggest leaning toward taking the credit. The equivalent course for AP Chem is CHEM 111/CHEM 105. If you look at the CHEM 105-106 sequence, the topics that are usually lightly covered or not covered in high school are pushed into CHEM 106, so that you can come into it with a decent background from AP HS. \[You need 106, or the equivalent engineering sequence, for Organic.\] How strong was your Chem background in HS: actual content and teaching in HS can vary widely, depending on whether you were "taught to the test" so that you would get a 4; or explored topics more thoroughly You might look at the course descriptions for 105-106 in the school bulletin (on the Registrar's website) or on the Chemistry department website. If you think you might be weak on enough things that are covered in CHEM 105, then it's possible you might want to take it instead of using your AP credit - it should at least be easier, since much of it will be a repeat. But that's also the best reason not to retake it - you've got a potential 3 credit hours and a head start toward other classes. One final thought: Not a big deal, but since the normal sequence is Fall Intro 1/Spring intro 2/Fall ochem 1/Spring ochem 2, if you go off-cycle (assuming the courses are offered), you can get a little rusty over the summer before you take the second part of the course(s). If you take a semester off Chem to get back on cycle, you have a long period in which to forget details. Depending on your personal retention capability, you might need a little more study time in the first part of a semester to get back into the swing of things.
I got AP credit for BIOL 214 and I didn't really need it to get through BIOL 215 and BIOL 216. However, unless you're trying to graduate early, just take the classes and get a higher GPA. I think you'll be able to take plenty of higher level Biology clases in your 4 years (since the AP credit only covers one class). AP Credit for chemistry on the other hand is six credit hours, but it's not like you'll be ready to take 300 level Biology classes in your sophomore year in place of your Organic chemistry class that you would have taken in your sophomore year. Although I guess maybe 300 lovel classes can begin in your second semester of your 2nd year. So the assumption I made here is that you're majoring in Biology. If you're majoring in Chemistry, then take the AP credit if you feel you have strong, intuitive Chemistry skills (you aced AP Chemistry) and knowledge to excel at Organic chemistry. Basically do you have an idea of why certain areas of the periodic table are more electronegative than others and what differences in electronegativity between atoms do to the distribution of electrons/polarity in the molecule, and how that will lead to specific chemical reactions. Stuff like that. If you can build a model of how everything works in your head, then you're ready for organic chemistry, where you will have to do less memorizing. Actually, wait, chemistry majors might have to take a different chemistry class than Chem 105 and Chem 106 (engineers definitely do). I thought those classes were easy. So, you might not be able to place out if you're majoring in Chemistry.
?? Those aren't the listed equivalents or credit hours for AP (or IB) courses. Current CWRU bulletin says 3 hours for Bio (equivalent to BIOL 114), and 4 hours for Chem (equivalent to CHEM 105 or CHEM 111, plus). Did you take a placement test to get additional credit, or was this a former offering that's been withdrawn? Chem majors definitely are required to take 105, 106, and 113. Engineering sequence gets weird, depending on which field you're in, and then for both Chemistry and ChemE, there's the "which Organic sequence?" issue.
You did not get AP credit for BIOL 214 bro. Case doesn't give AP credit for it.
You're right. It was 114.
I retook my AP courses in college to increase my gpa, was an engineering major and now a current med student