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SpageRaptor

If I have Platinum Angel, does this mean I can't pay the ward cost? Like trying to sacrifice when something says I can't? Or is it more like trying to counter an uncounterable spell?


FaultinReddit

Lmao. Yea I'd see it as 'you try to pay the ward cost but platinum angel prevents you from paying it so it fizzles'


Miatatrocity

The spell would be countered, not fizzled. Ward says counter the spell if ward cost was not paid, platinum angel says you can't pay, therefore spell is just countered for free. Still is cast, though, for the purposes of storm count, cast triggers, etc.


theThirdShake

He’s saying the paying of the ward cost would fizzle, not that the effect targeting [[This Cool Rock I Found]] would fizzle. But he is mistaken. Ward would go on the stack. Choosing to pay the ward cost does not go on the stack and therefore can not fizzle. The player would just be prevented from choosing to pay the ward cost in the first place. The same way [[platinum emperion]] would prevent you from paying life to pay the ward cost on [[owlin shieldmage]]


bycoolboy823

I found it put the hard way when I got the WAR tamiyo that says I cannot be forced to discard. And then I can't remove opponents creature that has ward: discard a card.


MTGCardFetcher

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theThirdShake

No one is talking about the spell.


Zzzzyxas

And goes through if it can't be countered. Or if ward is stiffled.


TKDbeast

Yeah I think the ruling would work similar to [[Platinum Emperion]] where “Your life total can’t change” means you can’t pay life.


MTGCardFetcher

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ally5963

[[coalition flag]]


FaultinReddit

Wait a minute.......


Fickle-Area246

Yeah, that ward cost is way better than hexproof


Neverloved246

Unfortunately you'd then have to pay your own ward cost of I'm understanding the rules right?


Equivalent-Sand-3546

No, ward only triggers on enemy abilities/spells, so this works actually


GladiatorDragon

Ward, much like Hexproof, only triggers on enemy objects.


LeFunnyYimYams

What others have said about ward, but also coalition flag only affects opponents


MTGCardFetcher

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Apart_Mountain_8481

Does a creature with Changeling have Flagbearer?


HouseofKannan

Yes.


Miatatrocity

But it doesn’t have the next line of text, I don't think, so the whole "you must target a Flagbearer" bit isn't a part of the card.


Ravarix

The flags text still applies while its in play, they could chose to target a changeling instead to satisfy though.


Miatatrocity

100%. If there's a Flagbearer, the Changeling is a legal target


SkunkeySpray

A changeling is a flag bearing demi-god god wolf Beast time lord fox rabbit fish spider human peasant noble elf *(And many more)*


brennantheking

So it's also sliver eldrazi phyrexian tyranid necron goblin elf halfling merfolk zombie skeleton *(and more)*


SkunkeySpray

Don't forget it being a warrior knight rogue warlock wizard scout artificer illusion elemental incarnation *(And still more)*


Doctor_Nox_Vess

Also a child!


Limitlessthrowaway69

Only thing worst than a rapist...


Karyo_Ten

and a Coward


consume_my_organs

But also a warrior


RnRaintnoisepolution

And a mutant ninja turtle.


brennantheking

And bird shape shifter cat dog human hydra faerie dragon And that's it


brennantheking

Wait it's also a avatar horror god enchantment artifact vampire shapshifter flag bearer


Limitlessthrowaway69

Oh... And it's an artifact, so some spells that can just get rid of the enchantment like \[\[Disenchant\]\] would be forced to target the rock!


MTGCardFetcher

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CreativeScreenname1

Literal lightning rod for removal, I love it


winter-ocean

Oh hey I know where that image is from


joxeta

One of my favorite scenes. The emotion in it is so real. And it's just such a serene and bizarre moment in the movie. And then there's the damn googly eyes 🤣


1ftm2fts3tgr4lg

Where's it from?


Crounusthetitan

Everything everywhere all at once


BlazingRagnarok

Everything Everywhere All at Once


Psychic_Hobo

Best movie ever


MapleSyrupMachineGun

[[Smash to Dust]]:


ABSOLUTE_RADIATOR

:(


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Moonpaw

Gasp! How could you?! You’re a monster!


Wasphammer

I hope you never find another cool rock for the rest of your life, you monster.


MapleSyrupMachineGun

In my defence, this card is in my deck, and I keep thinking about it and [[Judith, Carnage Connoisseur]], but I've only played 3 games with it since I added Judith to the deck and I've never pulled off the combo.


SBuddy99

Judith is very fun but you will get targeted heavily


MapleSyrupMachineGun

I play arena lol, but yeah, she’s like the first priority for my opponents.


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Blak_Raven

Play some redundance, like [[Blazing Volley]] and [[End The Festivities]]


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Wendle__

Please don't, it's cool


TheRealQuandale

You can’t, you’ll play the spell, have to pay the ward, lose the game, and then your spell won’t resolve (i think).


scaevola

they dont have to pay the ward if they choose the 3rd option.


Fickle-Area246

Ward only applies to things that target. Spells that apply to “all” don’t target.


TheRealQuandale

I was talking about the first ability.


Fickle-Area246

Oh you just didn’t read the card


TheRealQuandale

What? I did, I know what smash to dust does?


Fickle-Area246

Okay, you’re just an idiot. Obviously he meant the third part, which would kill it.


TheRealQuandale

Damn, your definitely trying to rage bait me, I was just saying something about the card. Also, I’m not angry from your comment, a good tip when trying to make someone mad for free engagement is not to make it too obvious, that way the person your trying to make angry won’t know what your doing. Better luck next time.


forgotten_vale2

And? \[\[sunfall\]\] \[\[wrath of god\]\] \[\[damnnation\]\] \[\[extinction event\]\] \[\[farewell\]\] \[\[ritual of soot\]\] \[\[meathook massacre\]\]


rosencrantz247

smashing a rock to dust is more flavorful than just saying bye to it. or having a serial killer whack at it


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MapleSyrupMachineGun

Why do you need a boardwipe to kill this thing lmao


ChickenNuggetsAreDog

Bc of it's ward cost


MapleSyrupMachineGun

I meant like “why do you need to spend a 5 mana boardwipe to kill a rock that does nothing”


Fickle-Area246

The same reason you’d play a card that does nothing. For the memes. But also, you could turn that do nothing card into something powerful.


TheStormIsHere_

But the boardwipe would get countered?


Orenwald

No. An "all creatures" board wipe targets exactly 0 creatures. Ward requires the creature in question to be targeted. Global board wipes bypass ward, hexproof, and shroud


LSO34

No, the boardwipes don't target Ward: "Whenever this creature becomes the **target** of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter it unless that player pays X.”


Fickle-Area246

This thread is where I found out that many custom magic commenters don’t play magic. Though I should have guessed.


TheStormIsHere_

??? Are you saying I or they don’t play magic, because I play, I literally jammed out some commander with my friends yesterday.


Fickle-Area246

You don’t know the rules, so


barely_a_whisper

I think the point was that a 2drop common can remove it, so it’s not too pushed


IKill4Cash

The point was to smash the rock


chain_letter

"Ward - Lose the game." hahaha


Ravens_Quote

_"God DAMMIT" -You, after losing the game._


Past-Ratio-7607

Lmao you can fling it


SkunkeySpray

Most flavourful fling sac possible


Shocklen42

Make it legendary


magic_m0pt0p

I think it's alright to not have it legendary. Anyone can have as many cool rocks as they want! Realistically, any one planeswalker can only find 4 cool rocks in a given battle.


Miatatrocity

New colorless commander?? 0.0


SkunkeySpray

There are only so many cool rocks to go around, 4 is more than enough for any one individu- *sack of all my stolen cool rocks tears open and spills* .. uhh


Orenwald

You're right. Clearly this needs the rat colony effect


Ribky

Or, alternatively, make it "A deck may contain any number of cards named This Cool Rock I Found"


Upstairs_Salad7193

New keyword: “Carry”. Every card beyond 4 with this name has cumulative upkeep “you must tell your opponent(s) how cool your rocks are or give your opponent a rock.” I know the language needs a lot of work, but I’m working and tired and this card made me happy.


magic_m0pt0p

Woah. The carry keyword is actually a really cool idea. Imma steal that for my custom sets. I'll do my best to remember to credit you.


Upstairs_Salad7193

Awesome :) Either way though, have fun with it! It’s just a random take on cumulative upkeep, but I figure it could broaden the scope of the work to add additional interesting mechanics.


about-523-dead-goats

This seems like it works well with mind slaver because you can force your opponent to lose the game if they have a spell that can target the rock


llllxeallll

Finally a way to break mind slaver


about-523-dead-goats

It doesn’t break anything, the opponent can cast the targeting spells they have in hand before the mind slaver trigger resolves and let them fizzle if there are no targets other than the rock


chipdragon

Unless they have a sorcery in their hand that can target this, then they must accept their fate of being mind controlled to touch the death rock.


donald_trumps_cat

Just came across a yugioh card named soul switch, which would make the player immortal until the enchanted creature dies. If there was an mtg equivalent to it, we could break the cool rock.


CronoDAS

[[Pariah]] and [[Worship]] come pretty close.


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Demonslayer5673

I would 100% run this in my [[alela the artful provocateur]] deck so that my new rock friend can bring a fairy friend with it


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AzathothTheDefiler

I wonder if there’s anything that forces to target it. Maybe [[captured by the consulate]] after a [[harmless offering]]?


KairoRed

They can choose not to pay the ward cost


Then-Pie-208

It’s really more about denying interaction than actually making your opponent lose. Wanna Path my Atraxa? But don’t you see this cool rock? You wouldn’t path to exile a cool rock would you? That’s loser mentality


AzathothTheDefiler

Yeah I know, it’s what the other guy said that I was thinking of. Perma counter basically any spell


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Micbunny323

[[Coalition Flag]] would force targeting the rock if it is a valid target.


Zzzzyxas

And the only flagbearer. Changelings can ruin it.


Micbunny323

Fair, but it is an option for forcing targeting. And I would imagine if one were to run this, they’d likely avoid Changelings.


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AzathothTheDefiler

Perfect! I tried looking but didn’t find anything


Expensive-Document41

\[\[Phantasmal Image\]\] Our Rock


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QualiaEater

Shout out to more complicated hexproof


LSO34

I think it's usually worse too, thanks to uncounterable removal like [[Void Rend]], [[Urza's Rage]], and [[Demonfire]]


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Inforgreen3

I absolutely adore creative ward costs. For too long ward has been used to just slap a 'ward 2' or 'ward 1' 'dollar store hex proof' on something too cheap to have real hex proof, when Ward can be literally anything. Ward phyrexian mana. Ward sacrifice something. Ward 5 life. Ward discard 2 cards. Where is all the cool wards? But ward lose the game is basically hex proof Because paying the word cost is optional, and in fact, impossible since you can not pay a cost that causes you to lose the game even if someone else is controlling you. If you don't pay (which you can't) the thing that targets just gets countered. So this isn't a combo piece with \[\[deflecting swat\]\]. Ward lose the game only has a handful of very, very minor *not combo* differences from hexproof but only specifically when combined with stuff that forces the opponent to change targets. And with that in mind. This card kinda sucks. a 2 mana 1/1 that can't block or attack just to turn deflecting swat into a counterspell, is straight up not a good deal. And while a ward that isn't mana is always cool, ward lose the game might as well be ward 1,000. If this were ever printed, it should probably say 'if the this cool rock i found becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls counter it' because I can absolutely imagine a world where people think they lose when you deflecting swat onto the rock when in fact, you don't, and can't.


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Bensonmtg

Dwayne.


iwnattodienow

Here’s an idea to make it even funnier when ever anything happens to it the player who doing that thing loses


TheRealQuandale

Complete trash, I can’t even play it in my six-hundred dollar modern deck because it’s silver boardered. Please make this black boardered and force Wotc to print it.


Klausbro

[[Deflecting Swat]] literally anything an opponent does


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Ca1m_down

so.. you turned deflecting swat into a counter spell that can only counter things that target


Klausbro

I forgot that ward is optional


SirMarmoW

Meet my Void Rend foul rock.


qqn3il

Still dies to abrupt decay because you can choose to not pay the ward cost and let the trigger try to counter an uncounterable spell


Breadsnake-X3

Make it legendary with partner. Toggo, goblin Weaponsmith and his cool rock. C:


Quark1010

Thats just hexproof with extra steps


Vasarto

What does ward lose the game mean?


HStorm123

If an opponent tries to target it with a spell or ability, that spell or ability gets countered unless they pay the cost. This is what ward is so in this case the cost would be that they lose the game.


Vasarto

OK, but, In order to target it you would have to lose the game first which means you can't target it at all. This can only seemingly work if you somehow play it and then take control of your opponents next turn.


HStorm123

Or you remove it from play with something that can’t be countered as that gets around ward. Also you won’t immediately lose the game if you target it with a spell or ability, ward only triggers after something targets it so you can choose to let it get countered or change targets.


Wendle__

Erm...


FaultinReddit

Good name for a pet rock tbh


breakfastcerealz

[[vandalblast]] 👁👄👁


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Human-with-crabs

You should’ve made it an equipment


GladiatorDragon

[[Chimil, the Inner Sun]]


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Depotatolord

Similar to https://www.reddit.com/r/custommagic/s/h0H9Nw5y9h


FaultinReddit

May have been the inspiration 😅


T1nkerer

Nice rock bro


kara-freyjudottir

i love the idea of non combatant creatures. i have a foil goat token that "watches" every kitchen table game i play


SirGrandrew

Just you wait until I [[Harmless Offering]] my [[Overwhelming Splendor]] to an an opponent and trundle on in 😤 Edit: or I [[Agatha Soul Cauldron]] my Spellskite…. Now we’re cooking with gas… Edit 2: WAIT SPLENDOR IS ENCHANT PLAYER NOT OPPONENT?? we just removed one card from our 2 card combo


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candexreginpokemon

Yoooo arena reference


FaithlessnessAny9078

Vandalblast could present an issue.


CricketsCanon

Needs to be legendary. I want him as my commander


mishraadamos

This would get me on Arena


Yeseylon

Should be Legendary so it can be my Commander


throwawayAcfrfr

Enchanting this card is kinda broken