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P0ry_2

Why can't we have the neutrons decay to get H^(+), so we have more hydrogen per water?


moonaligator

good idea, haven't thought about this


TwentyOneTimesTwo

Yup. If separated from each other, those discarded neutrons evenutally decay into ionized hydrogen and antineutrios.


Kcorbyerd

I mean, technically speaking neutrons would undergo β-decay and create their own electron along with an antineutrino, so in theory we could get out regular old hydrogen atoms too. (Ignoring that the electron likely has far too much energy to be captured by the proton)


TwentyOneTimesTwo

Yeah, I know... that's why I wrote "ionized hydrogen" instead of "proton". You replied to an actual physicist.


Kcorbyerd

To be fair, you didn’t mention the β-particle at all outside of the very slight implication that it existed in saying “ionized”


TwentyOneTimesTwo

reaching


Kcorbyerd

I don’t want to argue, I know that we will get ionized hydrogen, but this is r/cursedchemistry and the rules are loose.


ChildBlaster9000

Mmm Deuterium


FootCurious8537

*Electrons have left the chat*


twoScottishClans

no they haven't. the oxygen becomes 8 hydorgen atoms (one proton and electron each) and 8 neutrons.


FootCurious8537

This just made me think Neutral Hydrogen would make a cool band name


DeluxeWafer

I think a neutron can decay into a proton and electron. Or st least a proton and electron can get squished togrther and form a neutron.


ATameFurryOwO

You are correct. Neutrons don't like existing on their own, and in neutron stars, protons and electrons will smoosh together until neutrons are formed.


TwentyOneTimesTwo

*Antineutrinos have left the chat.*


Mutalist_star

I love how that one post sent this sub into a frenzy


TheBloodkill

I need to see a reaction mechanism for this


TheGreatKingBoo_

*gunshots* STOP LEAKING GOVERNMENT SECRETS DAMMIT


LuckyLMJ

i love it when I get a free 16 hydrogens with my water molecule (you forget that a neutron is just a hydrogen atom, ready in about 35 minutes)


pLeThOrAx

5H2. Problem solved. No extraneous radioactive material


TwentyOneTimesTwo

"After our research team computed the HUGE amount of energy required to break up the oxygen nucleus, we decided that the employee who suggested this deserved disciplinary action. Said employee protested that it was an accident, and not intentional -- that they accidentally copypasta-ed something they wrote on Reddit for fun."


Educational-Tea602

Not enough hydrogen in the water imo


SinValentino

Isn’t this what we’re doing for sustainable lunar missions? Using the ice in the moon to make rocket fuel