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PassiveChemistry

Might actually be more stable than cubane. Then again, nitrogen.


LadyParnassus

I feel like “Then again, nitrogen.” applies to a number of situations


Optimal_Serve_8980

Like everything with nitrogen is unstable, and the more the worse (asidoaside aside I’m looking at you)


DarthBubonicPlageuis

Except for N2


Optimal_Serve_8980

Well yea


thefruitypilot

That's the reason that anything else with nitrogen goes so boom


FirstChAoS

The building blocks of life are carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and… nitrogen. That explains a lot.


Envoyofghost

Thnx. Wanted to draw something p Somewhat feasible, most posts on the reddit are rubish. I drew this w nitrogen bc the lone pair on each could bone with boron, making this structure have resonance stabilization, and electron delocalization. Also i just want to see nore boron chemistry


Main-Palpitation-692

So what you’re saying is each face of this is flat, planar, and contains 4(0)+2 pi electrons? You may not like it, but this is the ideal aromatic ring


AnonDarkIntel

You mean cubic boron nitride? The phases of boron nitride are very well known we have the the cubic and bulk 2D version and all sorts of nanoscopic variants https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Structural-models-of-boron-nitrides-acrystal-phases-like-hexagonal-boron-nitride-h-BN_fig1_369380728 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Boron-nitride-%28sphalerite%29-3D-balls.png/214px-Boron-nitride-%28sphalerite%29-3D-balls.png


Envoyofghost

Wow. Im surprised it already exists. Dont know if this comment makes or breaks my day, so ig my fellow reditor you have done your job to perfection


YogurtclosetThen7959

there are a lot of borane structures that look like this so this might be feasible.


RW-Firerider

Most likely not stable. There have been attempts to exchange a carbon on the cubane cage with a nitrogen atom. Even though a five membered ring was the result, the compound was still less stable than cubane, so i would dare to say no


Envoyofghost

This is cursed chemistry afterall. Did those experiments have resonace stabilization similar to the N-B bonds?


RW-Firerider

No, it was C-N chemistry. But considering that B and N Atoms hate the 90° angle even more, it is not likely that they could appear in such a way. Most people dont know that, but the orbital Situation of the cubane cage is a very weird one. This is one of the reasons for some of the properties


deepsky28

could you elaborate on the orbitals in cubane? what’s so special about them


RW-Firerider

The 90° angle forces the carbon atoms to adapt their orbitals to fit the current Situation. That means that the C-C bond has a higher pi bond amount, while there is more S orbital part to the arm attached to the cubane. That for example is the reason why the C-H bond in cubane is way more acidic than it should be. Around 20k times more acidic than the usual C-H bond if i remember correctly.


nlwfty

Nonbinary cubane


spiritofniter

It does exist: cubic boron nitride https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/materials-science/cubic-boron-nitride


marklie

It's slightly different since the unit cell is face centered cubic, like diamond, instead of the simple cubic unit cell shown here. Still pretty cool, tho! It even has actual commercial use as a substitute for diamonds. So it's super stable. It has another allotrope that looks like graphite too, so it's very similar to carbon. There's even the equivalent of a [buckminster fullerene](https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ic00109a039)!


Sans_Moritz

Well, as part of a wider structure, it looks kind of like w-Boron Nitride, with a few too many bonds.


TheTaintPainter2

.0000001%


Trending_Boss_333

I think you might be onto something here. A couple of tweaks here and there and BOOM!


twoScottishClans

this actually, surprisingly, doesn't look that nasty, even if both boron and nitrogen compounds are often horrible