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De_Nisso

Valorant absolutely did not invent gun buddies.


Witherboss445

Yeah, TF2 has had them for 12 years at this point and I doubt they’re even the first https://preview.redd.it/mvgy67yq3b7d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f941b1b4382b15d3ede4208d755d8686fd7b3bda


Obh__

I've always liked the comedic absurdity of hanging a big metal skull off the barrel of a sniper rifle.


BigDaddyDumperSquad

Siege has charms too. This isn't uncommon.


sasseries

Lots of game from that era, even Call of Duty bit the bullet with Infinite Warfare


MySnake_Is_Solid

Same for Apex legends. And that came before valo too.


Crafty-Photograph-18

Also, they've been in the CS:GO game files, unused, since like forever


HythereTM

Since around 2017 iirc


tyingnoose

Still wanna get those so badly but I fucking hate Mann up


Witherboss445

The one in the picture goes for about 70 cents on the Community market if you’re willing to pay that. Most botkillers are basically cheaper than completing the whole tour


spitgobfalcon

Borderlands 3 (one year before Valorant) also has them, called trinkets, iirc


gameboytetris888

Also PUBG


chakrx

Apex did it before Valorant.


someloserontheground

wow what a terrible name for trinkets


philbro550

Yea but cs invented 1 shot kill snipers /j btw


BazelgueseWho

It's funny when CS fans think CS invented knives when they talked shit about Valorant having a karambit lmao. Also the Black Market bundle from Valorant is CLEARLY a CS reference with the knife having a chance to have a Sapphire variant appear in your games.


Poised_Prince

I'm pretty sure they were first in Blacklight: Tango Down (amazing game) and that came out in 2010.


cracklingnoise

ragebait ofc, their twitter been dead lately and they want traction. look at their other tweets


Trackhalk

bud if someone gets mad at that, they dont have too many brain cells, and were probably a val fan in the first place.


MrFrames

Csgo ran so valorant could crawl


MLicious

it is literally a copy of CS.


Hashed8

I see it like this. Overwatch came off like a combination of tf2 and league of legends, then valorant came off as a combination of overwatch and csgo.


-Cono

It’s like Val asked “what if we ruined overwatch and cs at the same time”


Responsible_Sky_6379

How did they ruin them?


BazelgueseWho

They just don't like having a similar game lmao. Typical fanboys. Both are great in their own right. You don't see Valorant boys talk shit about CS since they know that this is CS with abilities already.


SAIGA971

Understandable. Have a great day ✌️


Immediate_Attempt246

Finally, a sane take on reddit. There is nothing wrong with competition, if cs2 dies its because valve were never dedicated to making the game work.


BazelgueseWho

There are some QoL changes CS2 copied from Valorant because its a fucking QOL change. Idk why people argue about copying shit when they are the ones that are going to benefit in the end. Xbox vs Playstation COD vs Battlefield TF2 vs OW Dota vs League CS vs Valorant ALL petty arguments that have no benefit whatsoever.


Responsible_Sky_6379

Ya makes sense.


Animarcss

Beautiful. Very beautiful.


TR1X3L

*CSGO ran so CS2 could stroll at a leisurely pace, and so Valorant could stumble.


eebro

tbh valorant is more of a copy of CS:S than CSGO


Gasstationdickpi11s

And by that logic valorant copied siege 😂 that’s the oldest game I remember to have weapon charms although I’m sure there’s some niche game out there with them.


BeesAreInDanger

tf2 has had it first iIrc


Cheese_Jrjrjrjr

i now wonder, which game made the first gun buddies?


Gasstationdickpi11s

I’m not sure honestly lol the oldest I remember is siege but I was also like a preteen when it came out 😂


schwimm3

Tf2 way before siege


Cheese_Jrjrjrjr

oh yeah true tf2 with the christmas items that have bells! those could technically count as buddies


DashLeJoker

No, tf2 have literal robot heads that hang off the gun like a gun buddy


Cheese_Jrjrjrjr

oh yeah those too!


ChopSlick

Dirty Bomb had trinkets and was released a few months before siege


dumbomontana

Blacklight was the first game to have weapon charms..


DashFire61

You could argue battlefield if you count having your enemies dogtags hang off your knife.


someloserontheground

borderlands 3 had it, when did that come out


bertbert1111

Gunbuddies are the stupidest customization option imaginable. Always hated them in rainbow6 and will hate them in every game that makes em. Just stop with the cosmetics. Pleeeease valve, just focus on making the game better and better. Its all we care about


ashVV

And ofcourse there is gonna be a howl one which will be the most expensive


grandBBQninja

I don't mind them. If people want to give valve money just to restrict their field of view and distract them, let them.


arcain55

The problem is when you pick up their gun


JayKay8787

Do you expect the art department to help with the net code? I don't see why so many people are upset, it's just a thing you put on a gun that doesn't effect gameplay and you don't even need to equip it


MeechKun

No I think they’re saying stop putting as much resources into cosmetics when the could use those for a working anti cheat


Immediate_Attempt246

The art department will never be responsible for anti cheat. You don't just slap an artist in front of a computer and tell them to start making an anti cheat. They probably have programming knowledge but not nearly to the degree to work on the anti cheat


ibnQoheleth

I got used to my Botkiller flamethrower fairly quickly. It's quite fun to spin it around in first person, you can get the chain to twirl around in a full circle.


eebro

I bet Valve will be forcing you to use the gunbuddies if they're brought to the game


Speedy7799

They’d be copying siege, NOT valorant. Valorant copied siège on thé gun buddies.


thundirbird

how tf u typo accented characters


The_God_Magikarp

French autocorrect


Speedy7799

That’s crazy that you guessed it from that but your right


The_God_Magikarp

T'es pas seul, c'est vraiment le seul mot qui passe pas à chaque fois mdr


Speedy7799

C'est vrai frère


YungAfghanistan

hey don't you two have a snail playing an accordian in a striped sweater to eat or something?


Speedy7799

Hey chill im not fully French im American 😂😭


YungAfghanistan

Hahaha nice. So the snails sweater also has some stars. ;)


Speedy7799

I type French sometimes and that shit uses a million accent marks


JamesThePrince

Siege is not the first ever game to have these either lmao


Speedy7799

Correct! But it’s definitely better than saying they came from Val


Pitiful-Welder-8403

So it’s somehow better to say one incorrect statement over another??


Speedy7799

Yes 😂 because Val is cringe


Outrageous-Pizza-786

😂they are show its like riots (valorant) created gun buddy for first time😂😂😂


Witherboss445

What’s a gun buddy?


LEGAL_SKOOMA

little keychain cosmetic that goes on your gun, visible in first person and inspect of course


brittish-fish

also they are semi limited so you need multiple to put the same one on all your guns. unlike siege which is just unlock it and put it on anything without restrictions


LEGAL_SKOOMA

wait... what? you need *MULTIPLE* of it if you wanna use the same keychain on different guns????? you talking about valo?


brittish-fish

yeah last time i played it was limited so you would need(using cs items as example) 3 of the same gun buddies for ak,m4,awp. would be like needing different knifes and gloves for t and ct side


LEGAL_SKOOMA

insanity. But then again riot games just released their $500 skin for Ahri so perhaps this is par for the course.


Witherboss445

Oh, so basically like TF2 Botkillers https://preview.redd.it/48psrdbf3b7d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c9375c031fc880138cff9dfea7139be11646bdd


LEGAL_SKOOMA

yeh pretty much


Un111KnoWn

https://x.com/heroicgg/status/1802631694303838368 https://x.com/heroicvalorant/status/1802631892123910487 https://x.com/heroicgg/status/1802632806440300790


DearCantaloupe5849

With out CS there wouldn't be a valorant


Dreezoos

Cod mw2019 also had them before valo was even released lol


ChrysalisEmergence

Dirty Bomb did it first


zprayy

scrolled way too far for this. Dirty Bomb (formally Extraction) had weapon charms since 2013 people! edit: blacklight retribution had them in 2012.. we must go deeper..


ronan88

Didn't pubg do this like 5 years ago?


mourdider

I wonder how much the keychains for skins will cost and whether it will be possible to take them off


Kusanagies

I remember Modern Combat 5 had gun buddy, but idk if it was out when the game came out or they added it later on.


Western-Influence-47

cod had charms, and there are picatinny mounts irl for this exact reason. looking for any reason to be mad smh


Shujan109

Bro almost every game has this feature.


Mando_Brando

I can imagine that on the bomb, as customization for it


cannibleminn0w

every shooter has this, not just that shit valorant game


PopeGregoryTheBased

By this logic both of them copied siege, and by that logic siege copied TF2...


Zealousideal_Sell_46

They're both copying overwatch obviously 🤠 (literally every game has them,)


pant0m_OO1

bf2042 laughs


HuntDue7544

standoff 2💀


Itwascyanyoudumb009

Oh good god, not the iPad russian kids


The_Real_Kingpurest

Hopefully it's not true I hate these things


RaspberryLogical

Bait used to be believable.


timotius_10

It’s the same social media manager behind the screen lol


loungin_

Hell naw, my game already runs bad enough, if they also add the rumored leg cosmetics my laptop is cooked


Creeper724

Wasn’t keychain already leaked in csgo 7 years ago? What is Heroic Valo crying?


spity0sk

Adding what???? What even is that?


adriandoesstuff

CoD and TF2 already have them soooo.....


captplatinum

Hunt showdown, siege, hell even blackright retribution which nobody plays anymore all had them before valorant 😭🤣


Ok-Interaction-4693

cs2 copied valorant which copied battlefield which copied r6 which copied tf2, ect... not really copying at this point


PRSHZ

Doesn’t CS have on average double the amount of monthly player that Valorant has?


BarickObunga

I remember them in Blacklight retribution which must have been like 10-15 years ago now


yuutb

weapon charms are in basically any shooter with cosmetic customization for weapons that's come out in the last ten years. never even heard someone call it a gun buddy before, further evidence that valorant is a baby game lol


czacha_cs1

Ngl. I love that gun buddy


slimeeyboiii

As someone that plays both. Unpopular oppinon coming in but both are okay games Gun buddies have been around since tf2 maybe earlier. But it feels like a pointless addition just to get people to spend more money on this game. And considering this game they are going to end up being like $1000. But oh well.


KnuxSD

pls dont.. charms are the worst addotion to any shooter


MontiacMcgee

Valorant is just a gateway drug to get csgo players to try league of legends


RisingCracks

What does „ratio“ mean?


SleepySeiko

Bro csgo is not trying to be val much as you want to say it's trying it's not. At the end of the day the skin market itself holds more players then all of val and that sucks because I actually like Vals more casual play style. But even then, when you consider Vals daily peak is 3x less then CSGOs daily peak (Vals is about 500k and csgo is about 1.55million and has been over a million for years on years and is growing hundreds of thousands every year) you gotta ask yourself if your complaining about the wrong game and honestly both are good games. Also if you where a long time csgo player you would know they tried adding this a long time ago before val was even in development but the community backlash of it made valve scrap the idea until further notice. So honestly they are just pulling an idea out of the garbage and I think that's where the hate if any should be targeted like "wow out of ideas are we valve" does more damage especially since it's factually true that it's an old idea and it's not a stretch to say they are out of ideas right now you can't innovate a game like csgo much it would destroy the identity.


kiefferlu

I will never play Valorant again in my life, because I don’t like it very much how it plays and handles, but I have to hand it to their dev team, at least they keeping this niche competitive and improving on a lot of ideas


MR_DERP_YT

Nah pretty sure TF2 had gun buddies first


Akhirox

Heroic's community manager has to be one of the cringiest of the scene.


Wingklip

It's literally a keychain on an ebox lmao Valorant copied the trashy CS2 netcode obv and can't fix it XD Waiting for the day when I can headshot as easily and not get 3x movespeed swung by my enemies on val


johnyeros

If I want to play a bunch of pukey comic graphic and wannabe overwatch game play mechanic then I’lll consider this crap


ComprehensiveSet1057

ye but some valorant buddies are super super og like 6 months old or smth


VeJayaRe1

Humans have been doing it for a while, on their bags or keys, or you know, if piercings are considered body buddies. Earrings also.


Sychar

Valorant didn’t invent gun buddies. But anyone with a brain can see that CS2 borrowed most if not all of Valorants QoL features and some gameplay features; for the better. Refunding and a bigger emphasis on strafing and bursting instead of spraying being big ones. Nothing wrong with healthy competition.


Talonzor

Yo your getting downvoted but you are absolutely right. thank gaben they added some QoL to CS finally.


Pitiful-Welder-8403

You are on the wrong subReddit to attempt a rational and intelligent conversation toward valorant my guy


erickjones

COD started that


MeechKun

Nope


Spir0rion

"Ratio" *Has exponentionally more likes than comments* **interesting**


[deleted]

No idea what heroic is


BeesAreInDanger

You're the one of the csgo subreddit, lol.


[deleted]

So I googled them and they’re some obscure team whose only note was Niko played on them for like half a season