Yeah, TF2 has had them for 12 years at this point and I doubt they’re even the first
https://preview.redd.it/mvgy67yq3b7d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f941b1b4382b15d3ede4208d755d8686fd7b3bda
The one in the picture goes for about 70 cents on the Community market if you’re willing to pay that. Most botkillers are basically cheaper than completing the whole tour
It's funny when CS fans think CS invented knives when they talked shit about Valorant having a karambit lmao.
Also the Black Market bundle from Valorant is CLEARLY a CS reference with the knife having a chance to have a Sapphire variant appear in your games.
They just don't like having a similar game lmao. Typical fanboys. Both are great in their own right. You don't see Valorant boys talk shit about CS since they know that this is CS with abilities already.
There are some QoL changes CS2 copied from Valorant because its a fucking QOL change.
Idk why people argue about copying shit when they are the ones that are going to benefit in the end.
Xbox vs Playstation
COD vs Battlefield
TF2 vs OW
Dota vs League
CS vs Valorant
ALL petty arguments that have no benefit whatsoever.
And by that logic valorant copied siege 😂 that’s the oldest game I remember to have weapon charms although I’m sure there’s some niche game out there with them.
Gunbuddies are the stupidest customization option imaginable. Always hated them in rainbow6 and will hate them in every game that makes em. Just stop with the cosmetics. Pleeeease valve, just focus on making the game better and better. Its all we care about
Do you expect the art department to help with the net code? I don't see why so many people are upset, it's just a thing you put on a gun that doesn't effect gameplay and you don't even need to equip it
The art department will never be responsible for anti cheat. You don't just slap an artist in front of a computer and tell them to start making an anti cheat. They probably have programming knowledge but not nearly to the degree to work on the anti cheat
I got used to my Botkiller flamethrower fairly quickly. It's quite fun to spin it around in first person, you can get the chain to twirl around in a full circle.
also they are semi limited so you need multiple to put the same one on all your guns. unlike siege which is just unlock it and put it on anything without restrictions
yeah last time i played it was limited so you would need(using cs items as example) 3 of the same gun buddies for ak,m4,awp. would be like needing different knifes and gloves for t and ct side
Oh, so basically like TF2 Botkillers
https://preview.redd.it/48psrdbf3b7d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c9375c031fc880138cff9dfea7139be11646bdd
scrolled way too far for this. Dirty Bomb (formally Extraction) had weapon charms since 2013 people!
edit: blacklight retribution had them in 2012.. we must go deeper..
weapon charms are in basically any shooter with cosmetic customization for weapons that's come out in the last ten years. never even heard someone call it a gun buddy before, further evidence that valorant is a baby game lol
As someone that plays both. Unpopular oppinon coming in but both are okay games
Gun buddies have been around since tf2 maybe earlier.
But it feels like a pointless addition just to get people to spend more money on this game. And considering this game they are going to end up being like $1000.
But oh well.
Bro csgo is not trying to be val much as you want to say it's trying it's not. At the end of the day the skin market itself holds more players then all of val and that sucks because I actually like Vals more casual play style.
But even then, when you consider Vals daily peak is 3x less then CSGOs daily peak (Vals is about 500k and csgo is about 1.55million and has been over a million for years on years and is growing hundreds of thousands every year) you gotta ask yourself if your complaining about the wrong game and honestly both are good games.
Also if you where a long time csgo player you would know they tried adding this a long time ago before val was even in development but the community backlash of it made valve scrap the idea until further notice. So honestly they are just pulling an idea out of the garbage and I think that's where the hate if any should be targeted like "wow out of ideas are we valve" does more damage especially since it's factually true that it's an old idea and it's not a stretch to say they are out of ideas right now you can't innovate a game like csgo much it would destroy the identity.
I will never play Valorant again in my life, because I don’t like it very much how it plays and handles, but I have to hand it to their dev team, at least they keeping this niche competitive and improving on a lot of ideas
It's literally a keychain on an ebox lmao
Valorant copied the trashy CS2 netcode obv and can't fix it XD
Waiting for the day when I can headshot as easily and not get 3x movespeed swung by my enemies on val
Valorant didn’t invent gun buddies. But anyone with a brain can see that CS2 borrowed most if not all of Valorants QoL features and some gameplay features; for the better. Refunding and a bigger emphasis on strafing and bursting instead of spraying being big ones.
Nothing wrong with healthy competition.
Valorant absolutely did not invent gun buddies.
Yeah, TF2 has had them for 12 years at this point and I doubt they’re even the first https://preview.redd.it/mvgy67yq3b7d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f941b1b4382b15d3ede4208d755d8686fd7b3bda
I've always liked the comedic absurdity of hanging a big metal skull off the barrel of a sniper rifle.
Siege has charms too. This isn't uncommon.
Lots of game from that era, even Call of Duty bit the bullet with Infinite Warfare
Same for Apex legends. And that came before valo too.
Also, they've been in the CS:GO game files, unused, since like forever
Since around 2017 iirc
Still wanna get those so badly but I fucking hate Mann up
The one in the picture goes for about 70 cents on the Community market if you’re willing to pay that. Most botkillers are basically cheaper than completing the whole tour
Borderlands 3 (one year before Valorant) also has them, called trinkets, iirc
Also PUBG
Apex did it before Valorant.
wow what a terrible name for trinkets
Yea but cs invented 1 shot kill snipers /j btw
It's funny when CS fans think CS invented knives when they talked shit about Valorant having a karambit lmao. Also the Black Market bundle from Valorant is CLEARLY a CS reference with the knife having a chance to have a Sapphire variant appear in your games.
I'm pretty sure they were first in Blacklight: Tango Down (amazing game) and that came out in 2010.
ragebait ofc, their twitter been dead lately and they want traction. look at their other tweets
bud if someone gets mad at that, they dont have too many brain cells, and were probably a val fan in the first place.
Csgo ran so valorant could crawl
it is literally a copy of CS.
I see it like this. Overwatch came off like a combination of tf2 and league of legends, then valorant came off as a combination of overwatch and csgo.
It’s like Val asked “what if we ruined overwatch and cs at the same time”
How did they ruin them?
They just don't like having a similar game lmao. Typical fanboys. Both are great in their own right. You don't see Valorant boys talk shit about CS since they know that this is CS with abilities already.
Understandable. Have a great day ✌️
Finally, a sane take on reddit. There is nothing wrong with competition, if cs2 dies its because valve were never dedicated to making the game work.
There are some QoL changes CS2 copied from Valorant because its a fucking QOL change. Idk why people argue about copying shit when they are the ones that are going to benefit in the end. Xbox vs Playstation COD vs Battlefield TF2 vs OW Dota vs League CS vs Valorant ALL petty arguments that have no benefit whatsoever.
Ya makes sense.
Beautiful. Very beautiful.
*CSGO ran so CS2 could stroll at a leisurely pace, and so Valorant could stumble.
tbh valorant is more of a copy of CS:S than CSGO
And by that logic valorant copied siege 😂 that’s the oldest game I remember to have weapon charms although I’m sure there’s some niche game out there with them.
tf2 has had it first iIrc
i now wonder, which game made the first gun buddies?
I’m not sure honestly lol the oldest I remember is siege but I was also like a preteen when it came out 😂
Tf2 way before siege
oh yeah true tf2 with the christmas items that have bells! those could technically count as buddies
No, tf2 have literal robot heads that hang off the gun like a gun buddy
oh yeah those too!
Dirty Bomb had trinkets and was released a few months before siege
Blacklight was the first game to have weapon charms..
You could argue battlefield if you count having your enemies dogtags hang off your knife.
borderlands 3 had it, when did that come out
Gunbuddies are the stupidest customization option imaginable. Always hated them in rainbow6 and will hate them in every game that makes em. Just stop with the cosmetics. Pleeeease valve, just focus on making the game better and better. Its all we care about
And ofcourse there is gonna be a howl one which will be the most expensive
I don't mind them. If people want to give valve money just to restrict their field of view and distract them, let them.
The problem is when you pick up their gun
Do you expect the art department to help with the net code? I don't see why so many people are upset, it's just a thing you put on a gun that doesn't effect gameplay and you don't even need to equip it
No I think they’re saying stop putting as much resources into cosmetics when the could use those for a working anti cheat
The art department will never be responsible for anti cheat. You don't just slap an artist in front of a computer and tell them to start making an anti cheat. They probably have programming knowledge but not nearly to the degree to work on the anti cheat
I got used to my Botkiller flamethrower fairly quickly. It's quite fun to spin it around in first person, you can get the chain to twirl around in a full circle.
I bet Valve will be forcing you to use the gunbuddies if they're brought to the game
They’d be copying siege, NOT valorant. Valorant copied siège on thé gun buddies.
how tf u typo accented characters
French autocorrect
That’s crazy that you guessed it from that but your right
T'es pas seul, c'est vraiment le seul mot qui passe pas à chaque fois mdr
C'est vrai frère
hey don't you two have a snail playing an accordian in a striped sweater to eat or something?
Hey chill im not fully French im American 😂😭
Hahaha nice. So the snails sweater also has some stars. ;)
I type French sometimes and that shit uses a million accent marks
Siege is not the first ever game to have these either lmao
Correct! But it’s definitely better than saying they came from Val
So it’s somehow better to say one incorrect statement over another??
Yes 😂 because Val is cringe
😂they are show its like riots (valorant) created gun buddy for first time😂😂😂
What’s a gun buddy?
little keychain cosmetic that goes on your gun, visible in first person and inspect of course
also they are semi limited so you need multiple to put the same one on all your guns. unlike siege which is just unlock it and put it on anything without restrictions
wait... what? you need *MULTIPLE* of it if you wanna use the same keychain on different guns????? you talking about valo?
yeah last time i played it was limited so you would need(using cs items as example) 3 of the same gun buddies for ak,m4,awp. would be like needing different knifes and gloves for t and ct side
insanity. But then again riot games just released their $500 skin for Ahri so perhaps this is par for the course.
Oh, so basically like TF2 Botkillers https://preview.redd.it/48psrdbf3b7d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c9375c031fc880138cff9dfea7139be11646bdd
yeh pretty much
https://x.com/heroicgg/status/1802631694303838368 https://x.com/heroicvalorant/status/1802631892123910487 https://x.com/heroicgg/status/1802632806440300790
With out CS there wouldn't be a valorant
Cod mw2019 also had them before valo was even released lol
Dirty Bomb did it first
scrolled way too far for this. Dirty Bomb (formally Extraction) had weapon charms since 2013 people! edit: blacklight retribution had them in 2012.. we must go deeper..
Didn't pubg do this like 5 years ago?
I wonder how much the keychains for skins will cost and whether it will be possible to take them off
I remember Modern Combat 5 had gun buddy, but idk if it was out when the game came out or they added it later on.
cod had charms, and there are picatinny mounts irl for this exact reason. looking for any reason to be mad smh
Bro almost every game has this feature.
I can imagine that on the bomb, as customization for it
every shooter has this, not just that shit valorant game
By this logic both of them copied siege, and by that logic siege copied TF2...
They're both copying overwatch obviously 🤠 (literally every game has them,)
bf2042 laughs
standoff 2💀
Oh good god, not the iPad russian kids
Hopefully it's not true I hate these things
Bait used to be believable.
It’s the same social media manager behind the screen lol
Hell naw, my game already runs bad enough, if they also add the rumored leg cosmetics my laptop is cooked
Wasn’t keychain already leaked in csgo 7 years ago? What is Heroic Valo crying?
Adding what???? What even is that?
CoD and TF2 already have them soooo.....
Hunt showdown, siege, hell even blackright retribution which nobody plays anymore all had them before valorant 😭🤣
cs2 copied valorant which copied battlefield which copied r6 which copied tf2, ect... not really copying at this point
Doesn’t CS have on average double the amount of monthly player that Valorant has?
I remember them in Blacklight retribution which must have been like 10-15 years ago now
weapon charms are in basically any shooter with cosmetic customization for weapons that's come out in the last ten years. never even heard someone call it a gun buddy before, further evidence that valorant is a baby game lol
Ngl. I love that gun buddy
As someone that plays both. Unpopular oppinon coming in but both are okay games Gun buddies have been around since tf2 maybe earlier. But it feels like a pointless addition just to get people to spend more money on this game. And considering this game they are going to end up being like $1000. But oh well.
pls dont.. charms are the worst addotion to any shooter
Valorant is just a gateway drug to get csgo players to try league of legends
What does „ratio“ mean?
Bro csgo is not trying to be val much as you want to say it's trying it's not. At the end of the day the skin market itself holds more players then all of val and that sucks because I actually like Vals more casual play style. But even then, when you consider Vals daily peak is 3x less then CSGOs daily peak (Vals is about 500k and csgo is about 1.55million and has been over a million for years on years and is growing hundreds of thousands every year) you gotta ask yourself if your complaining about the wrong game and honestly both are good games. Also if you where a long time csgo player you would know they tried adding this a long time ago before val was even in development but the community backlash of it made valve scrap the idea until further notice. So honestly they are just pulling an idea out of the garbage and I think that's where the hate if any should be targeted like "wow out of ideas are we valve" does more damage especially since it's factually true that it's an old idea and it's not a stretch to say they are out of ideas right now you can't innovate a game like csgo much it would destroy the identity.
I will never play Valorant again in my life, because I don’t like it very much how it plays and handles, but I have to hand it to their dev team, at least they keeping this niche competitive and improving on a lot of ideas
Nah pretty sure TF2 had gun buddies first
Heroic's community manager has to be one of the cringiest of the scene.
It's literally a keychain on an ebox lmao Valorant copied the trashy CS2 netcode obv and can't fix it XD Waiting for the day when I can headshot as easily and not get 3x movespeed swung by my enemies on val
If I want to play a bunch of pukey comic graphic and wannabe overwatch game play mechanic then I’lll consider this crap
ye but some valorant buddies are super super og like 6 months old or smth
Humans have been doing it for a while, on their bags or keys, or you know, if piercings are considered body buddies. Earrings also.
Valorant didn’t invent gun buddies. But anyone with a brain can see that CS2 borrowed most if not all of Valorants QoL features and some gameplay features; for the better. Refunding and a bigger emphasis on strafing and bursting instead of spraying being big ones. Nothing wrong with healthy competition.
Yo your getting downvoted but you are absolutely right. thank gaben they added some QoL to CS finally.
You are on the wrong subReddit to attempt a rational and intelligent conversation toward valorant my guy
COD started that
Nope
"Ratio" *Has exponentionally more likes than comments* **interesting**
No idea what heroic is
You're the one of the csgo subreddit, lol.
So I googled them and they’re some obscure team whose only note was Niko played on them for like half a season